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June 07, 2023, 12:31:22 PM
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With Messi leaving, PSG will lose power, we can all guess. He hasn't had a bad performance this year. The fact that he will leave the team has undoubtedly made it necessary to reinforce the team. On the other hand, if Mbappe leaves the team, it will be a very weak PSG offensively. They may have to spend serious money to fill this gap. I'm very curious about next year's PSG offensive line.
What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
I agree with you, if they keep getting the same results for spending a lot of money, then I'd say they are better off not spending any money at all. Something is wrong with the way they run the club to make this happen. I really regret it when a team with very good financial conditions can't do much in a prestigious competition, I won't talk about them in Ligue 1, because obviously in my opinion this is not a place for them to compete on an equal footing. Maybe one or two seasons when they are like this, then it can be said to be a natural thing, but when every season they do the same thing, then there are questions to be asked.

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June 07, 2023, 12:45:43 PM
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With Messi leaving, PSG will lose power, we can all guess. He hasn't had a bad performance this year. The fact that he will leave the team has undoubtedly made it necessary to reinforce the team. On the other hand, if Mbappe leaves the team, it will be a very weak PSG offensively. They may have to spend serious money to fill this gap. I'm very curious about next year's PSG offensive line.
What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
It is very likely that Mbappe will remain for this season but Messi will surely leave, because I believe he has played his last match in the club. If Mbappe stays and they reinforce the team with good players that are not super star, the team will be balanced but congesting one team with 3  super stars.
If Neymar leaves, Messi leaves and 5 new and good players are added to the team for reinforcement, I believe PsG will have good results for the next season champions league.
the PSG team really prioritizes Mbappe, and it is very natural that he is a young player and has very good qualities whereas Messi has failed to show his best performance in his 2 seasons with PSG, he will leave and the possibility is very big.
while Neymar is also currently linked with several other teams.
if Neymar and Messi leave I'm sure PSG can find a suitable replacement to maintain the team's performance as long as Mbappe is maintained because Mbappe's influence on the PSG team is quite large.
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June 07, 2023, 01:52:29 PM
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PSG is a top-flight club in Ligue One; even in their poorest form, they won the league. One thing I've come to noticed is that the absence of one character can not decreased the performance a team, the parisians have been performing well despite stepping in Leo Messi who they anticipated would give them the UCL, but they now realized all they need is talented serious squad of players, who are 100% determined to face their challenges and a good gaming strategy.
Winning farmer league trophy is not a good achievement by PSG. The main purpose from owner to sign messi and neymar to increase the capability for PSG to compete with another team in UCL.
PSG owner was eyeing UCL as the main target that could be achieved before. There's no better thing than winning UCL. It's been targeting by manchester city as well. Galtier already sacked and that's good.

PSG can restructure its team again with the new coach and i hope the rumor will be true if naglesmann gonna be the new coach for PSG. He is very competence in building the team to be even better.
Bayern has 100% WR before he has been replaced by tuchel.

Picking naglesmann as a new coach will be the best decision for PSG.

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June 07, 2023, 03:31:00 PM
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I get that fans did not get what they wanted out of Messi, but to boo him? After his last game at the club? I mean I am 100% sure that if he said he is staying then they wouldn't boo him at all, they did that because he is leaving without any achievement, but to put all of that onto just one player is silly. This dude played with 16 goals and 16 assists this season, have we seen that from all other players?

Let's see who they will get next season instead of him, and I bet that the new one will not provide that much neither. They did him injustice and that's such a big shame, I am sure that this is going to be a warning to other players not to go there. If I were a star, even if PSG offered me a lot, I may refrain from going there due to the fans.

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June 07, 2023, 04:55:45 PM
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With Messi leaving, PSG will lose power, we can all guess. He hasn't had a bad performance this year. The fact that he will leave the team has undoubtedly made it necessary to reinforce the team. On the other hand, if Mbappe leaves the team, it will be a very weak PSG offensively. They may have to spend serious money to fill this gap. I'm very curious about next year's PSG offensive line.
What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
I agree with you, if they keep getting the same results for spending a lot of money, then I'd say they are better off not spending any money at all. Something is wrong with the way they run the club to make this happen. I really regret it when a team with very good financial conditions can't do much in a prestigious competition, I won't talk about them in Ligue 1, because obviously in my opinion this is not a place for them to compete on an equal footing. Maybe one or two seasons when they are like this, then it can be said to be a natural thing, but when every season they do the same thing, then there are questions to be asked.

But why do people think that when you run a project like PSG in an inferior domestic league that the club can then compete with clubs from the Premier League or even La Liga or the Bundesliga? PSG lacks competition throughout the year, which is a big issue for them because they have to switch gears in an unrealistic manner to beat Manchester City after they have played 10 games in a row against very weak Ligue 1 teams. They don't have enough exposure to opponents on a very high level and that can't be changed no matter what management has control over the club. It is a major disadvantage of building a club in an inferior league.

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June 07, 2023, 05:11:09 PM
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I get that fans did not get what they wanted out of Messi, but to boo him? After his last game at the club? I mean I am 100% sure that if he said he is staying then they wouldn't boo him at all, they did that because he is leaving without any achievement, but to put all of that onto just one player is silly. This dude played with 16 goals and 16 assists this season, have we seen that from all other players?
Since the emergence of various speculations that occurred between Messi and Neymar, in fact, PSG fans, I think, are not too mature in providing support in this case, considering that instead of thanking them, they boo again and again, even though Messi's performance is not too bad, it's just that their expectations are too high. high in this case.
I think they need to be mature because if it continues like that the other players who are blamed will eventually not feel comfortable there.

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June 07, 2023, 05:32:23 PM
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I get that fans did not get what they wanted out of Messi, but to boo him? After his last game at the club? I mean I am 100% sure that if he said he is staying then they wouldn't boo him at all, they did that because he is leaving without any achievement, but to put all of that onto just one player is silly. This dude played with 16 goals and 16 assists this season, have we seen that from all other players?

Let's see who they will get next season instead of him, and I bet that the new one will not provide that much neither. They did him injustice and that's such a big shame, I am sure that this is going to be a warning to other players not to go there. If I were a star, even if PSG offered me a lot, I may refrain from going there due to the fans.

Messi is a talented and well-performing player. He didn't have a bad performance in PSG at all but since he didn't get good results because of many other reasons, the fans started attacking this player and they were thinking he is guilty of everything. That's why he could have enough focus to have better performance.
Leaving PSG this season was not something unexpected for us.

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June 07, 2023, 05:52:40 PM
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Messi is a talented and well-performing player. He didn't have a bad performance in PSG at all but since he didn't get good results because of many other reasons, the fans started attacking this player and they were thinking he is guilty of everything. That's why he could have enough focus to have better performance.
Leaving PSG this season was not something unexpected for us.

If Messi was a normal average player, then no one would complain to him - he more or less did some work and maybe no one would pay much attention to it. But Messi is supposedly GOAT and around him is always phenomenal PR and this obviously has consequences in terms of expectations from such a player. He failed all expectations, so the claims of the fans are quite obvious. When you buy a luxury car for 10x the price of a regular car, you expect a lot more performance than a regular car, right? Everything here works the same way.

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June 07, 2023, 06:50:39 PM
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One of the things they should improve is starting from the transfer.
Bringing in old players like Sergio and Messi before is quite good but in terms of competition they are certainly hampered by age so in this case they have to try new things by looking for fresher players of course.
Fan expectations are very high for PSG but they always make conditions where they bring in something that is actually normal like an old coach or player.
Improvements need to be made here if indeed their expectations are greater than just Ligue 1.

Well, before PSG brought in newcomers, they should have confirmed the coach they would recruit. as we know, some rumors report, Christophe Galtier, will be sacked in the next few days by Paris Saint-Germain as the club informed the manager that he will not be retained for next season. in other words, PSG will no longer be coached by Galtier.

Which is my question, so far PSG has not determined a candidate for a coach even though there are several names that are strong candidate candidates. one of them is, Julian Nagelsmann. however, PSG have confirmed to bring in two newcomers namely, Manuel Ugarte and Marco Asensio, as reported by Fabrizio Romano. wouldn't it be better if they determine the coach first instead of bringing in newcomers who might not fit into the system and style for the new PSG coach later. I can't stop thinking, is this the desire of the owner of PSG, or their technical director. if it's like this, I'm not sure that next season PSG will be much better. except, if the new coach will be able to concoct the formula for the PSG squad later. however, don't expect big.

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June 07, 2023, 07:33:11 PM
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One of the things they should improve is starting from the transfer.
Bringing in old players like Sergio and Messi before is quite good but in terms of competition they are certainly hampered by age so in this case they have to try new things by looking for fresher players of course.
Fan expectations are very high for PSG but they always make conditions where they bring in something that is actually normal like an old coach or player.
Improvements need to be made here if indeed their expectations are greater than just Ligue 1.

Well, before PSG brought in newcomers, they should have confirmed the coach they would recruit. as we know, some rumors report, Christophe Galtier, will be sacked in the next few days by Paris Saint-Germain as the club informed the manager that he will not be retained for next season. in other words, PSG will no longer be coached by Galtier.

Which is my question, so far PSG has not determined a candidate for a coach even though there are several names that are strong candidate candidates. one of them is, Julian Nagelsmann. however, PSG have confirmed to bring in two newcomers namely, Manuel Ugarte and Marco Asensio, as reported by Fabrizio Romano. wouldn't it be better if they determine the coach first instead of bringing in newcomers who might not fit into the system and style for the new PSG coach later. I can't stop thinking, is this the desire of the owner of PSG, or their technical director. if it's like this, I'm not sure that next season PSG will be much better. except, if the new coach will be able to concoct the formula for the PSG squad later. however, don't expect big.

For now it seems that Nagelsmann won't be welcomed with open arms in France by the people in general, by the media and perhaps also by his new team although the team shouldn't be a problem. They call him arrogant and they assume that he will be tested on a regular basis as soon as he gets under pressure. My opinion on that is that every coach knows when they go to PSG that it is all about pressure from morning till night as soon as you don't win a single game or even get problems in the Champions League. But when the public already has an opinion about him, it doesn't make things easier for him because everyone will be more skeptical from the beginning.

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June 07, 2023, 08:07:29 PM
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Your conclusion makes sense, but nevertheless every team will try to do their best because there is a prize at stake every game they play. Lens also have good form as a competitor, but of course they don't look like the best contenders in the Champions League because other top teams tend to have strong chances and mentality.

In addition, Lens do not have much experience in the Champions League which means they will return home early after the group stage. But anything can happen, maybe next season will be different even though Lens' chances are very low.
Lens must try to bring in several new players next season and they must be consistent and more focused in Ligue 1 because conditions next season will be much different from this season, where there will be many challengers who will try to play better than before. So that Lens' opportunity to remain consistent and be able to finish in runner up position will be much more difficult, a big challenge for coaches in facing other competitors and an increasingly busy match schedule will also affect the fitness condition of the players.

Realistically Lens's chances are very small because they are not an experienced team and have a mentality in the Champions League. It will be quite difficult for Lens to get past the group stage, especially if you are in a group with a great team with experience in the Champions League. So speaking of quality and experience, it is certain that they will find it difficult to compete so their targets will definitely not be excessive.

The lens could have a closer race with PSG because this season PSG was not in a good mood at all and they had too much bad atmoshpire in this team I think if Lens wants to have better performance in the next season they mnusty invest much more for their team.


With Messi leaving, PSG will lose power, we can all guess. He hasn't had a bad performance this year. The fact that he will leave the team has undoubtedly made it necessary to reinforce the team. On the other hand, if Mbappe leaves the team, it will be a very weak PSG offensively. They may have to spend serious money to fill this gap. I'm very curious about next year's PSG offensive line.
What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
I agree with you, if they keep getting the same results for spending a lot of money, then I'd say they are better off not spending any money at all. Something is wrong with the way they run the club to make this happen. I really regret it when a team with very good financial conditions can't do much in a prestigious competition, I won't talk about them in Ligue 1, because obviously in my opinion this is not a place for them to compete on an equal footing. Maybe one or two seasons when they are like this, then it can be said to be a natural thing, but when every season they do the same thing, then there are questions to be asked.

But why do people think that when you run a project like PSG in an inferior domestic league that the club can then compete with clubs from the Premier League or even La Liga or the Bundesliga? PSG lacks competition throughout the year, which is a big issue for them because they have to switch gears in an unrealistic manner to beat Manchester City after they have played 10 games in a row against very weak Ligue 1 teams. They don't have enough exposure to opponents on a very high level and that can't be changed no matter what management has control over the club. It is a major disadvantage of building a club in an inferior league.

If they wanted to run projects like PSg in the premier league they had to spend much more money because in the premier league, there are many ort rich teams and there is a closer race between other teams while in the French League, they could have easier days, if they were spending this money in premier they could even lose the top of the table easily.


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June 07, 2023, 08:39:54 PM
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One of the things they should improve is starting from the transfer.
Bringing in old players like Sergio and Messi before is quite good but in terms of competition they are certainly hampered by age so in this case they have to try new things by looking for fresher players of course.
Fan expectations are very high for PSG but they always make conditions where they bring in something that is actually normal like an old coach or player.
Improvements need to be made here if indeed their expectations are greater than just Ligue 1.

With Messi leaving, PSG will lose power, we can all guess. He hasn't had a bad performance this year. The fact that he will leave the team has undoubtedly made it necessary to reinforce the team. On the other hand, if Mbappe leaves the team, it will be a very weak PSG offensively. They may have to spend serious money to fill this gap. I'm very curious about next year's PSG offensive line.
There will be an impact felt when Messi leaves, but on the other hand, of course, things like this can still be minimized if they immediately move quickly to find other fresher players, but don't let the fans give high expectations because they are afraid the same thing will happen to Messi. can happen again to new players when it doesn't match their expectations.
Now Asensio is expected to be one of the strong candidates at PSG, hopefully he will not be damaged again in terms of fame by some irresponsible fans.

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June 07, 2023, 09:20:01 PM
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PSG is a top-flight club in Ligue One; even in their poorest form, they won the league. One thing I've come to noticed is that the absence of one character can not decreased the performance a team, the parisians have been performing well despite stepping in Leo Messi who they anticipated would give them the UCL, but they now realized all they need is talented serious squad of players, who are 100% determined to face their challenges and a good gaming strategy.
Winning farmer league trophy is not a good achievement by PSG. The main purpose from owner to sign messi and neymar to increase the capability for PSG to compete with another team in UCL.
PSG owner was eyeing UCL as the main target that could be achieved before. There's no better thing than winning UCL. It's been targeting by manchester city as well. Galtier already sacked and that's good.

PSG can restructure its team again with the new coach and i hope the rumor will be true if naglesmann gonna be the new coach for PSG. He is very competence in building the team to be even better.
Bayern has 100% WR before he has been replaced by tuchel.

Picking naglesmann as a new coach will be the best decision for PSG.

Exactly Because they were aiming for the champions league to achieve something there and beat teams like Bayern Munich because of the better players they had and the more money they spent for hiring the players.
While in the end, the only thing PSG could get for this season was the title of the French league and they could even get this title for spending less money.
I think next season the owner of PSG will not spend money like this anymore.

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June 07, 2023, 09:54:23 PM
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I think signing Marco Asensio might be the right move for PSG. Because no matter what he is really a good talent. You must have seen his recent performances at Real Madrid. He started to make a really serious contribution with goals especially. But Ancelotti still didn't seem very interested and the board didn't seem eager to keep him either. Here we are and we see PSG about to sign him for free.

The deal is said to be a four-year contract for now. It looks like PSG really believe in this guy. Besides I started to think like PSG won't look for any other player to fill Messi's place. I think they are thinking of doing this with Asensio as he can play on both wings and as an attacking midfielder too. Of course it might not be easy for Asensio to do the same work but we had better give him some time to adapt first.

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June 07, 2023, 10:11:38 PM
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PSG owner is rich enough to hire the best players in the world and they hired Messi the last time, I think this time it's time for them to pay more attention to their coach and they should hire a better coach by spending more money and then PSG can start hiring players to replace with Messi and Neymar for next season based on what the coach ask them to hire.
There are also many unemployed coaches in the world they can hire and I think Zidane can be the best option for PSG for next season.

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June 08, 2023, 05:48:54 AM
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PSG owner is rich enough to hire the best players in the world and they hired Messi the last time, I think this time it's time for them to pay more attention to their coach and they should hire a better coach by spending more money and then PSG can start hiring players to replace with Messi and Neymar for next season based on what the coach ask them to hire.
There are also many unemployed coaches in the world they can hire and I think Zidane can be the best option for PSG for next season.
Yes, I think so too, they should have a more qualified trainer, I'm not saying their current coach is not good, it's just that we've seen his performance. Star players don't guarantee success and we've seen that in the last few seasons. Just being champions in Ligue 1 is not enough for them, instead they have to achieve something even bigger.

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June 08, 2023, 06:09:43 AM
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There will be an impact felt when Messi leaves, but on the other hand, of course, things like this can still be minimized if they immediately move quickly to find other fresher players, but don't let the fans give high expectations because they are afraid the same thing will happen to Messi. can happen again to new players when it doesn't match their expectations.
Now Asensio is expected to be one of the strong candidates at PSG, hopefully he will not be damaged again in terms of fame by some irresponsible fans.
The impact might not be that big for PSG if the team can find a replacement that is no less good than Messi more quickly. However, during this break, almost all teams will try to find fresh and young players to replace the old players who have left the team. That's why all teams that have enough funds will move quickly to get the new players they want during a break like this, especially for teams like PSG who generally really need new players to have a better next season than the previous season.
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June 08, 2023, 06:17:58 AM
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With Messi leaving, PSG will lose power, we can all guess. He hasn't had a bad performance this year. The fact that he will leave the team has undoubtedly made it necessary to reinforce the team. On the other hand, if Mbappe leaves the team, it will be a very weak PSG offensively. They may have to spend serious money to fill this gap. I'm very curious about next year's PSG offensive line.
What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
It is very likely that Mbappe will remain for this season but Messi will surely leave, because I believe he has played his last match in the club. If Mbappe stays and they reinforce the team with good players that are not super star, the team will be balanced but congesting one team with 3  super stars.
If Neymar leaves, Messi leaves and 5 new and good players are added to the team for reinforcement, I believe PsG will have good results for the next season champions league.

Even on the offensive line with Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, they failed to take the UCL. They will lose 2 great players this year. However, if they win the UCL next year, it would be a great success. Who will they take instead of Messi I wonder? Who could be a better player than him? It is a fact that whoever they take, they will have to pay a high transfer fee.

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June 08, 2023, 06:58:39 AM
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I think signing Marco Asensio might be the right move for PSG. Because no matter what he is really a good talent. You must have seen his recent performances at Real Madrid. He started to make a really serious contribution with goals especially. But Ancelotti still didn't seem very interested and the board didn't seem eager to keep him either. Here we are and we see PSG about to sign him for free.

The deal is said to be a four-year contract for now. It looks like PSG really believe in this guy. Besides I started to think like PSG won't look for any other player to fill Messi's place. I think they are thinking of doing this with Asensio as he can play on both wings and as an attacking midfielder too. Of course it might not be easy for Asensio to do the same work but we had better give him some time to adapt first.
Marco Asensio sometimes performing well when he trusted in starting line up Real Madrid he was several times scores important goals for Real Madrid this season but unfortunately he was lost to compete with Vinicius or Benzema for the front lines and that's why Asensio always be second choice for Ancelotti and with PSG his chances to playing regular is quite high especially after Messi leave and Neymar future also still uncertain because some rumours says Neymar will leave PSG this season

And if this is happend i think Asensio has just make good decision because if he insist to stayed at Madrid most likely he will always be a substitute player however PSG also has gets Manuel Ugarte from Sporting Lisbon and it says PSG have to spend 60 millions to gets him and recently Ugarte was linked to Chelsea but seems contract proporsal which PSG offered was tempting him because PSG was offering double salary which Chelsea offered

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June 08, 2023, 07:10:18 AM
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What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
I agree with you, if they keep getting the same results for spending a lot of money, then I'd say they are better off not spending any money at all. Something is wrong with the way they run the club to make this happen. I really regret it when a team with very good financial conditions can't do much in a prestigious competition, I won't talk about them in Ligue 1, because obviously in my opinion this is not a place for them to compete on an equal footing. Maybe one or two seasons when they are like this, then it can be said to be a natural thing, but when every season they do the same thing, then there are questions to be asked.

But why do people think that when you run a project like PSG in an inferior domestic league that the club can then compete with clubs from the Premier League or even La Liga or the Bundesliga? PSG lacks competition throughout the year, which is a big issue for them because they have to switch gears in an unrealistic manner to beat Manchester City after they have played 10 games in a row against very weak Ligue 1 teams. They don't have enough exposure to opponents on a very high level and that can't be changed no matter what management has control over the club. It is a major disadvantage of building a club in an inferior league.
They should be able to do that with the power of money they have, it's just that even though they want to, it's like they never learned from the mistakes they made before, in another sense, nothing changes about them from season to season, starting from the scheme, how to play, and how the strategy they're on transfers.

Apart from that, the league they participate in also seems mediocre for Ligue 1, of course they feel like this is necessary without extra effort for Ligue 1, but when talking about bigger competitions, of course something like this won't happen.

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