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August 20, 2023, 08:37:18 PM |
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I didn't expect that Man United lost 0-2. I bet this game would end goalless. Because in the first half, both teams played equally strong. But after the half-two break, Tottenham managed to make a goal from a counterattack, and Martinez's own goal. Man United had a lot of good chances, but they couldn't make a goal. Rashford are not playing optimally, they don't look like they have a number 9. Hojlund's arrival is expected to solve this problem, but his position is still injured. So it looks like Ten Hag will have to be patient with the current conditions.
Indeed this is a bad situation for making king Manchester United have lost this game at this earlier time in the season, this will affect Manchester United since the start of the season which determined the nature of the foundation the club will have play on throughout the entire season. Even Chelsea on the other hand also lost the game at the weekend and this is quite an unexpected outcome of the event most especially when both clubs have invested heavily in signing new players to put out their ability to win but revise is the case in this situation.
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I didn't expect that Man United lost 0-2. I bet this game would end goalless. Because in the first half both teams played equally strong. But after the half-two break, Totenham managed to make a goal from a counterattack, and Martinez's own goal. Man United had a lot of good chances, but they couldn't make a goal. Rashford are not playing optimally, they don't look like they have a number 9. Hojlund's arrival is expected to solve this problem, but his position is still injured. So it looks like Ten Hag will have to be patient with the current conditions.
Normally, I knew how difficult that match would have been considering that it's an away match for Manchester United but since Kane wasn't available anymore, I thought it will be a wise move to include Manchester United for win or draw match, I was shock to see what they did at the end, it wasn't just humiliating. I was disappointed and lost my bet, of 3 matches that I staked, it was only Manchester United that didn't bring my tickets home. I accepted my faith but what was it with the 3 goals the conceded, I wasn't the expect that kind of performance from Manchester United as early as the start of this season. I thought Chelsea are done with the banter? This is going to be a long ride but I don't think it will be smooth one, perhaps a mad max furry because, this is too early to start not after all the transfer tweaking Pochettino had done. Last week, Enzo was praised for his performance but I didn't see anything spectacular about that but today penalty, they all changed the story because the banter was crazy, Caicedo that was making the Media headline gave them there worst nightmare that made West Ham to have extra goal. At this point, I don't know who to blame anymore, not Pochettino Manager nor the players, everything is wrong with Chelsea, how can 11 players be playing against 10 players and to score a single goal becomes a mission impossible. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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August 20, 2023, 08:46:19 PM |
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I didn't expect that Man United lost 0-2. I bet this game would end goalless. Because in the first half both teams played equally strong.
I knew Manchester United couldn’t win against Tottenham. Manchester United hasn't really understood themselves yet. I was expecting the match to end in a draw, but unfortunately, Manchester United conceded two goals in the match, they couldn’t even score a single goal. Manchester United's performance is kind of poor to me this season. They won their first match against Wolves, but I will say they struggled to score a goal in the match. Ten Hag has to change his tactics, he has a long way to go. If Manchester United struggled to win wolves, then they will find it difficult to win strong clubs this season.
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August 20, 2023, 08:50:58 PM |
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I didn't expect that Man United lost 0-2. I bet this game would end goalless. Because in the first half, both teams played equally strong. But after the half-two break, Tottenham managed to make a goal from a counterattack, and Martinez's own goal. Man United had a lot of good chances, but they couldn't make a goal. Rashford are not playing optimally, they don't look like they have a number 9. Hojlund's arrival is expected to solve this problem, but his position is still injured. So it looks like Ten Hag will have to be patient with the current conditions.
Indeed this is a bad situation for making king Manchester United have lost this game at this earlier time in the season, this will affect Manchester United since the start of the season which determined the nature of the foundation the club will have play on throughout the entire season. Even Chelsea on the other hand also lost the game at the weekend and this is quite an unexpected outcome of the event most especially when both clubs have invested heavily in signing new players to put out their ability to win but revise is the case in this situation. The defeats experienced by Chelsea and Manchester United surprised everyone because these two teams made quite good changes in the transfer window, but their hopes of continuing to appear consistently in every game will be difficult to achieve if the players are not able to show their best quality. For Chelsea they haven't found a pure striker who is thirsty to score goals regularly in every match. Jakson still hasn't given his best quality in the last two matches. Pochettino should have played Lukaku but he didn't. Also for Manchester United where Hojlund is still unable to play because he suffered an injury during the pre-season match. I think Erik Ten hag was really disappointed with the defeat his team experienced against Tottenham.
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August 20, 2023, 08:56:32 PM |
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It was a pretty bad result for Chelsea. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I thought this would be their first win of the season but they got a big loss. Even after West Ham got a red card they still scored another goal against Chelsea. When you look at the statistics of the game Chelsea seem very superior to their opponent. But the result doesn't say the same thing. Maybe the turning point of the game was the penalty missed by Enzo Fernandez. Because if he scored the penalty Chelsea were going to get 2-1 ahead. After capturing the psychological superiority too they could have won this game.
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August 20, 2023, 09:01:06 PM |
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I didn't expect that Man United lost 0-2. I bet this game would end goalless. Because in the first half, both teams played equally strong. But after the half-two break, Tottenham managed to make a goal from a counterattack, and Martinez's own goal. Man United had a lot of good chances, but they couldn't make a goal. Rashford are not playing optimally, they don't look like they have a number 9. Hojlund's arrival is expected to solve this problem, but his position is still injured. So it looks like Ten Hag will have to be patient with the current conditions.
Indeed this is a bad situation for making king Manchester United have lost this game at this earlier time in the season, this will affect Manchester United since the start of the season which determined the nature of the foundation the club will have play on throughout the entire season. Even Chelsea on the other hand also lost the game at the weekend and this is quite an unexpected outcome of the event most especially when both clubs have invested heavily in signing new players to put out their ability to win but revise is the case in this situation. Chelsea's problems are obviously not going to change in one month. And signing new players won't get results without building the game itself and tactics, this was evident on the pitch...... Enzo, who costs 121 million, fails to score a penalty and Caicedo, who costs 116 million, soon earns a penalty for an opponent. What to give such a huge amount of money for? I don't get it. On the pitch these players don't look worth that money, and here they are also screwing up.....
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August 20, 2023, 09:05:42 PM |
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Newcastle just looked for counter-attacks and tried to steal one point by a defensive game. Maybe they could have managed to do that with that game plan as well. Because it ended by only 1-0. Manchester City wasted so many goal opportunities. Especially Haaland wasted numerous opportunities. He wasn't on one of his good days I'm afraid.
Newcastle United were not very effective in this game but they have been managed very well in the last few years and have improved their game a lot in that time. They scored 5 goals against Aston Villa last week and had a great start to the league. I have high expectations for them this season. Manchester City were missing some important players before this match. When these two data coincided, I expected a surprise from Newcastle United but I was wrong. Pep has calculated how to stop Newcastle United. Also, I saw Kovacic and Gvardiol adapting quickly to the team. I think Manchester City will continue to be the most solid team in the league in the new season.
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August 20, 2023, 09:16:26 PM |
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It was a pretty bad result for Chelsea. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I thought this would be their first win of the season but they got a big loss. Even after West Ham got a red card they still scored another goal against Chelsea. When you look at the statistics of the game Chelsea seem very superior to their opponent. But the result doesn't say the same thing. Maybe the turning point of the game was the penalty missed by Enzo Fernandez. Because if he scored the penalty Chelsea were going to get 2-1 ahead. After capturing the psychological superiority too they could have won this game. This is one of the reasons I still avoid bets given for Chelsea. Their condition is still unstable even though there is still confidence to improve, but still the results obtained by Chelsea are still not well predictable. The score is quite striking and the most annoying thing in this case is that they still conceded a goal even after West Ham lost 1 player midway through the second half. Some of the things that annoy me are the poor defence and not very disciplined and the penalty miss in the first half really makes Chelsea have to improve themselves so that they are not the same as last season.
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August 20, 2023, 09:19:11 PM |
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It was a pretty bad result for Chelsea. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I thought this would be their first win of the season but they got a big loss. Even after West Ham got a red card they still scored another goal against Chelsea. When you look at the statistics of the game Chelsea seem very superior to their opponent. But the result doesn't say the same thing. Yep. Chelsea performed really badly against West Ham, I can't believe that they were defeated by 3 goals. Chelsea only made 1 goal in the first half, they couldn't score any goal in the second half. While West Ham scored 2 goals in second half although they played with 10 players since minute 67. Not sure why Chelsea performed worse in second half, but Chelsea looked like an amateur team. They could win the ball possession, they also made more shot attempts. But they have no accuracy in shooting, so they couldn't score more goals. Pochettino must evaluate the ability of Chelsea players in shooting. Maybe the turning point of the game was the penalty missed by Enzo Fernandez. Because if he scored the penalty Chelsea were going to get 2-1 ahead. After capturing the psychological superiority too they could have won this game.
Although Enzo Fernandez can score from the penalty kick, they still got defeated by 3-2. We can't blame Enzo Fernandez, it was the mistake done by all Chelsea players. All of them have no good mentality, they have no winning mentality.
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August 20, 2023, 09:19:26 PM |
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Chelsea's problems are obviously not going to change in one month. And signing new players won't get results without building the game itself and tactics, this was evident on the pitch...... Enzo, who costs 121 million, fails to score a penalty and Caicedo, who costs 116 million, soon earns a penalty for an opponent. What to give such a huge amount of money for? I don't get it. On the pitch these players don't look worth that money, and here they are also screwing up.....
Chelsea need time to show their quality in the Premier League because this season the average Chelsea player is a new player and also a new coach. So they need time to convince the fans that they will be able to get through this transitional period as well as possible. Their failure against West Ham is regrettable because their opponent is believed to be easy to beat in this match. But the surprise happened because West ham was able to get full points and beat Chelsea which is inhabited by good quality star players.
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I didn't expect that Man United lost 0-2. I bet this game would end goalless. Because in the first half both teams played equally strong.
This is something shocking to me also after Manchester United lost 0-2 to Tottenham Hotspur. After the departure of Kane from Tottenham Hotspur, who is there best top scorer I felt it was going to affect the team for a while before they put themselves back together again. But to my surprise, they were able to beat Manchester United even though at some point the pressure on the game was intense from both teams. I was thinking Manchester United will use their lack of attacking power since Kane left to their advantage but unfortunately it turned out to be their worst nightmare after luckily winning Wolves in their first premier league game this season. Even Chelsea on the other hand also lost the game at the weekend and this is quite an unexpected outcome of the event most especially when both clubs have invested heavily in signing new players to put out their ability to win but revise is the case in this situation.
Chelsea was playing well from the first half up to the minute they went for the second half break. Everything took a turn after they came back for the second half. Chelsea had opportunities but couldn’t utilize them from the first half. It’ll be a big disappointment to the entire Chelsea team and fans after a poor end for them today. I hope this won’t weaken them but improve more, we are just in the start of the season, they can turn things better for themselves in the next games to come.
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Their failure against West Ham is regrettable because their opponent is believed to be easy to beat in this match. But the surprise happened because West ham was able to get full points and beat Chelsea which is inhabited by good quality star players.
I knew this game was going to be tricky for Chelsea, they have far more quality/experienced players than West Ham, but the Hammers are more organized and they stuck to their gameplan throughout the match and that's why they won. Chelsea can continue on their spending spree but they need more organization, the players are not used to playing with each other and more often than not it seems they are either one step ahead or slower than their mates. Having said that, there is no need for Chelsea to press the panic button yet, they haven't started the season the way they would have liked it, but Mauricio Pochettino still needs time to get used to his players and to get his best starting team; Chelsea should set their targets at a top four finish, i don't think they can win the EPL title.
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August 20, 2023, 09:36:29 PM |
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It was a pretty bad result for Chelsea. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I thought this would be their first win of the season but they got a big loss. Even after West Ham got a red card they still scored another goal against Chelsea. When you look at the statistics of the game Chelsea seem very superior to their opponent. But the result doesn't say the same thing. Maybe the turning point of the game was the penalty missed by Enzo Fernandez. Because if he scored the penalty Chelsea were going to get 2-1 ahead. After capturing the psychological superiority too they could have won this game. Every game has a missed chance that could have been a turning point, but Chelsea lost the whole game, they had time to turn things around and take at least a point, but instead they conceded the third goal. Now Luton, Nottingham and Bournemouth are waiting ahead of them - these are frankly weak rivals, so Pochetino is lucky to some extent, because if the rivals were stronger, then talk of resignation would have already begun. Although if Chelsea does not take at least 7 points in these games, I am sure such conversations will begin.
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August 20, 2023, 09:42:24 PM |
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Chelsea need time to show their quality in the Premier League because this season the average Chelsea player is a new player and also a new coach. So they need time to convince the fans that they will be able to get through this transitional period as well as possible.
Their failure against West Ham is regrettable because their opponent is believed to be easy to beat in this match. But the surprise happened because West ham was able to get full points and beat Chelsea which is inhabited by good quality star players.
Chelsea didn't seem to have any luck against West Ham United, because apart from Enzo Fernandez who failed to execute a penalty well enough in the first half. Chelsea also could not take advantage of the opportunity when one of the players from West Ham United was sent off in the second half, even though Chelsea could control the ball with more than West Ham United. But Chelsea still seemed not lucky enough at that time so they had to accept defeat at the London Stadium.
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August 20, 2023, 09:42:47 PM |
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Their failure against West Ham is regrettable because their opponent is believed to be easy to beat in this match. But the surprise happened because West ham was able to get full points and beat Chelsea which is inhabited by good quality star players.
I knew this game was going to be tricky for Chelsea, they have far more quality/experienced players than West Ham, but the Hammers are more organized and they stuck to their gameplan throughout the match and that's why they won. Chelsea can continue on their spending spree but they need more organization, the players are not used to playing with each other and more often than not it seems they are either one step ahead or slower than their mates. Having said that, there is no need for Chelsea to press the panic button yet, they haven't started the season the way they would have liked it, but Mauricio Pochettino still needs time to get used to his players and to get his best starting team; Chelsea should set their targets at a top four finish, i don't think they can win the EPL title. I don't agree that Chelsea possesses a greater number of experienced players compared to West Ham. Are we assessing this based on age, years of playing football, or even their time in English football? Chelsea might make an error by underestimating the value of experience; it holds significance in the present. Experience can often assist players in grasping coaches' intentions better.
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August 20, 2023, 09:46:24 PM |
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Second Premier League matches have been end except with last match Arsenal vs Crystal Palace on tomorrow and have one postponed match between Luton Town vs Burnley , have many unpredictable result exactly with Chelsea loss after defeating by West Ham United. One top fourth standings team last season Manchester United have bad result on second Premier League matches after defeating by Tottenham Hotspur,
Its all matches result for second week of Premier League
Nottingham 2 vs 1 Shiffield Luton vs Burley postponed Liverpool 3 vs 1 Bournemoth Wolves 1 vs 4 Brighton Fulham 0 vs 3 Brentford Tottenham 2 vs 0 Manchester United Manchester City 1 vs 0 Newcastle Aston Villa 4 vs 0 Everton West Ham United 3 vs 1 Chelsea
Pick your score predicting for last match Crystal Palace vs Arsenal
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August 20, 2023, 09:50:10 PM |
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I didn't expect that Man United lost 0-2. I bet this game would end goalless. Because in the first half, both teams played equally strong. But after the half-two break, Tottenham managed to make a goal from a counterattack, and Martinez's own goal. Man United had a lot of good chances, but they couldn't make a goal. Rashford are not playing optimally, they don't look like they have a number 9. Hojlund's arrival is expected to solve this problem, but his position is still injured. So it looks like Ten Hag will have to be patient with the current conditions.
Indeed this is a bad situation for making king Manchester United have lost this game at this earlier time in the season, this will affect Manchester United since the start of the season which determined the nature of the foundation the club will have play on throughout the entire season. Even Chelsea on the other hand also lost the game at the weekend and this is quite an unexpected outcome of the event most especially when both clubs have invested heavily in signing new players to put out their ability to win but revise is the case in this situation. I'm actually not too surprised by Chelsea losing but Manchester United is the one I regret. Even though we know that Tottenham is one of the big clubs but for the current situation I expected a lot from Manchester United but they were really disappointing. Their defence even though in the penalty box there are so many players who are there but they always make the same mistake by not seeing Tottenham players who are always standing free. This must be fixed by Manchester United because if things like this continue to be allowed then I think something like this could happen again in another match.
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August 20, 2023, 10:10:17 PM |
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It was a pretty bad result for Chelsea. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I thought this would be their first win of the season but they got a big loss. Even after West Ham got a red card they still scored another goal against Chelsea. When you look at the statistics of the game Chelsea seem very superior to their opponent. But the result doesn't say the same thing. Maybe the turning point of the game was the penalty missed by Enzo Fernandez. Because if he scored the penalty Chelsea were going to get 2-1 ahead. After capturing the psychological superiority too they could have won this game. This could be just the beginning of Chelsea's misrey but loses are good for they will get back to the top if they're really ready and serious Today they did well, the player's attacked well. Raheem Sterling was the best player for Chelsea in the first half, big disappointed to see Enzo missing the penalty kick that should have seen them ahaed and made it difficult for blues to get back into the game. He should work on his scoring skills Raheem Sterling won the penalty he should have also been the player to play the penalty kick. Disappointed Chelsea Pochetino and also the Chelsea fans.
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August 20, 2023, 10:10:21 PM |
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I would consider Chelsea result a really big surprise so far considering how good they played in the first game at home against Liverpool.I think they are still a new team considering that Pochettino had time but most probably not enough to make them a stable team yet and the fact that they did not win against 10 players West Ham shows that they wanted badly to win and played in a chaotic way desperately trying to win while giving West Ham chances that unfortunately for Chelsea they were converted to goals.
Given how dominant Chelsea was against Liverpool the previous week and even in the preseason games I watched,it comes as much of a surprise to me.Chelsea plays well but the truth is that I don't believe the team has finishing line yet. Again, there are some errors in Chelsea's defense line today, so if they were able to control the pitch with that ball possession, I anticipated them to launch some significant offensive that may result in numerous goals. Seriously, Pochettino needs to revisit the transfer market and add a few required players. I can't just assume that despite controlling the field, they were unable to defeat the opposition with just 10 men. Aston Villa did not want to lose the opportunity to win in front of the support of their fans. It seems that Unai Emery continues to improve the performance of his players after last season also appeared so extraordinary. This defeat left Everton in the temporary relegation zone and they must get 3 points in the next game if they don't want to experience the same season as before.
Following Aston Villa 5-1 loss to Newcastle last week, Aston Villa players really made their supporters happy by defeating Everton by a score of 4-0 seriously I didn't anticipate them to defeat Everton by this many goals today due how I saw their performance last match. Aston Villa's performance today absolutely impressed me. In the present, Aston Villa has covered up the four goals they conceived against Newcastle. Everton has had a horrible start to the season yet again, and they even had a poor start to previous season when they nearly avoided relegation. In order to avoid being relegated this season, Everton must quickly address their poor performances.
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August 20, 2023, 10:21:48 PM |
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Chelsea's problems are obviously not going to change in one month. And signing new players won't get results without building the game itself and tactics, this was evident on the pitch...... Enzo, who costs 121 million, fails to score a penalty and Caicedo, who costs 116 million, soon earns a penalty for an opponent. What to give such a huge amount of money for? I don't get it. On the pitch these players don't look worth that money, and here they are also screwing up.....
Chelsea need time to show their quality in the Premier League because this season the average Chelsea player is a new player and also a new coach. So they need time to convince the fans that they will be able to get through this transitional period as well as possible. Their failure against West Ham is regrettable because their opponent is believed to be easy to beat in this match. But the surprise happened because West ham was able to get full points and beat Chelsea which is inhabited by good quality star players. The performance of Chelsea in today's game against West Ham was absolutely a shadow of what we saw last weekend against Liverpool which is why I think there's is still room for improvement for the blues. Most members of the squad weren't playing as first team players for the club last season and that's why I think they're still trying to understand each other. Their performance today against West Ham was very poor but I believe they can still do better going forward.
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