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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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November 09, 2023, 08:46:35 AM
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I don't think Manchester United and Newcastle can be compared because the quality of these two teams is different, so it's only natural that Manchester United also slumps in the UCL because in the Premier League the Manchester United team is like that.
In contrast to Newcastle who had quite an impressive performance in the Premier League but they failed to show the same performance in the UCl match, it is true that Newcastle was a little unlucky because they joined a strong team in group F, but if their mentality is strong they can definitely show their performance. the same as they showed in the Premier League match.
How can a team qualify for UEFA CL and at the end of the day, they failed to record brilliant performance in games. If these teams continue like this, I'm afraid they will be eliminated from UCL in the early stage. Manchester United and Newcastle are the two English team's that are struggling in UEFA Champions League competition, though there are other teams that are also facing challenges, Red Devils and the Magpies will take decisive measures if only they're keen on bouncing back to form. For quick reminder,  Manchester United and Newcastle are ranked the least team's in their perspective groups.

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November 09, 2023, 09:05:03 AM
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upcoming match Newcastle vs Bournemouth logically Newcastle should win against a team that is at the bottom of the standings but when I look at the odds provided the bookmaker there is a little suspicion because usually the team that is the favorite and has a big chance of winning the match usually has odds of around @1.2 or maybe lower but the current odds of Newcastle @1.6 are too high for the team to win and with this suspicion I will place a bet while the match is in progress to confirm if Newcastle will actually win this match as I was a little disappointed in the previous bet too much shock.
Bournemouth this season has a very poor performance, they need to really work on there team in other enhance there performance because if they should continue with their pattern of play the chances of going high will be very small so preferably having striker like Mbappe or Kevin the Bruyne is what they really need.

They seem to have been having a lot of challenges in performance this season because there last 10 matches was nothing to write home about, out of 10 matches they only won 2 matches, lost 6 matches and draws 2 matches that's awful performance and even the premier League table they are on the 18 place.

So with there poor performance I don't think they stand a chance against Newcastle United because Newcastle is far better in performance than them, so however irrespective of how the Newcastle odds seems to have been higher instead of being low doesn't determine their wining so I just believe that Newcastle will win them with many goals.

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November 09, 2023, 09:24:58 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).
Erik Ten Hag still has enough time to improve Manchester United's performance, but if Erik Ten Hag can do it, currently Manchester United continues to experience a decline in performance and it even looks like Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the next round of the Champions League will be difficult to achieve, last season Erik Ten Hag succeeded in bringing Manchester United to finish in third place but it looks like this season will be a little difficult because Manchester United is experiencing difficulties in terms of players. Erik Ten Hag finds it difficult to develop the playing style of his players so he continues to decline.
Indeed, Man Utd still has 27 matches remaining, but Manchester United has currently experienced 5 defeats even though they have only played 11 matches, whereas last season Manchester Utd experienced only 9 defeats from a total of 38 matches, so from this it can be concluded that Man Utd is in condition not good this season.

No matter how hard they tried to improve Manchester United nut I think Manchester United we saw in the last season because they 'improved' the team, had a much better performance and they could even get a better place in the Premier League but I think Ten Hag completely failed to improve the team and they just decreased the team performance during the summer, if Ten Hag didn't make any changes during the summer they could get better results.

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November 09, 2023, 09:53:30 AM
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Maybe what you said is quite right because a breakdown in relationships with players will create quite a bad situation for them in every match. Because the players don't have the full trust of the coach, of course they won't play better to be able to bring the team to victory. I think Erik Ten Hag current position is very extreme, He will be fired if he fails to bring Manchester united through to the round of 16. Because that is one of his hopes of being able to last longer with Manchester United if he succeeds in bringing Manchester united to the round of 16.

Yes, regarding harmony within the team, of course it must be maintained as best as possible by all players and coaches and what is happening at Manchester united currently is that harmony between player and coach is quite chaotic. Especially the Sancho problem which has not been resolved until now. Wouldn't something like this disturb the team and Erik Ten Hag has to lower his emotional tension and have to give a lot of confidence to the player to be able to work harder in achieving their target.
Regarding Manchester United, I think the whole problem is not about Erik Ten Hag only, I mean he has his own side of the blame but alot of things is hindering them from progressing thìs seaso, the whole team needs to be restructured to get them to start performing better again, the pressure is too much on Erik Ten Hag and thus it's causing him to make lots of wrong decisions which in return is affecting their performance on the pitch and I doubt if they'll be able to beat Galatasaray and Bayern Munich to qualify for the next round.

 You're right I think there's favoritism going on in the teams that's causing them to lack harmony, Rashford is not performing very well but he still gets to start over mount and pellistri that gives in their best whenever they're given an opportunity, the Sancho situation is another thing the board needs to look into cause not all his teammates would be happy about how the coach is handling the situation especially the players closer to him, Erik Ten Hag needs to try as much a possible to ensure that such incident doesn't occur again in the team, they've already lost two good wingers, Greenwood and Sancho they don't need to lose another.

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November 09, 2023, 10:03:15 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).
Actually, I still hope for more progress for this team, but unfortunately every problem always comes and it also really affects a team's performance. From internal player problems, feuds with coaches, to injuries suffered by several players and that is why Manchester United seems to be under a never-ending curse. The season is still long and I'm pretty sure they can fix it if some of these problems can be resolved well and no other problems come. Getting to the top 5, I think it would be a good thing for the Red Devils, but I really doubt that Manchester United can finish in that place with the significant development of several other EPL teams.

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November 09, 2023, 10:06:23 AM
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Arsenal have suffered some injury crisis of recent,and it has hampared their performances this season.They are without Odegard,Partey,Timber and Gabriel Jesus.These are players who have important and significant impact on and off the pitch.Partey is the engine room to Arsenal's midfield,and when ever they play without him,it seems that midfield doesn't have a good shape.Last night was one of their best games ever because they showed class through out the game.They are leading in their group with 9 points now.It won't be a surprise if Arsenal get to the final or semi final in this Champions league because they are playing beautiful football that can make them to bigger stages in the competition.

Any team can have bad days or even bad weeks for a while and it doesn't mean Arsenal is not going to win the Premier League title anymore. Arteta had a good performance in Arsenal during the last season and this coach is even more experienced now, which means he can even get better results and I think if the players they lost because of getting injured are back in good form, they can easily take the first place of the table back if other teams lose some point.

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November 09, 2023, 10:15:17 AM
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Wolves - Tottenham is going to be the opening game this week. You know how big hit Tottenham took from Chelsea last week. The red cards they were given brought their hand by a really embarrassing score. However I don't think the mental of the players will be down too much just because of this loss. I expect to get prepared strongly for the Wolves game.

This is a great opportunity to make up for that loss. Tottenham are currently the best away team according to the statistics. The recent away games they played against Wolves weren't easy ones though. However Tottenham weren't this much impressive those times.

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November 09, 2023, 10:42:49 AM
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Arsenal have suffered some injury crisis of recent,and it has hampared their performances this season.They are without Odegard,Partey,Timber and Gabriel Jesus.These are players who have important and significant impact on and off the pitch.Partey is the engine room to Arsenal's midfield,and when ever they play without him,it seems that midfield doesn't have a good shape.Last night was one of their best games ever because they showed class through out the game.They are leading in their group with 9 points now.It won't be a surprise if Arsenal get to the final or semi final in this Champions league because they are playing beautiful football that can make them to bigger stages in the competition.

Arsenal's injuries have impact on how they play on the pitch, but it's still not right to say that it's a crisis. among all players who are injured, it's only odegaard the one who has impact to the team. in midfield without Partey, they still have Declan rice, Jorginho, Fábio Vieira, etc. and their front line, they still have strong front line to win games.

Arsenal are still favorite to compete mancity at title race this season, because, other than mancity, they have the most complete squad in the league where they have quality backup players at every position. they only need to maintain their good form throughout the season.

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November 09, 2023, 10:52:52 AM
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This mentality is very influential, especially in UCL matches which have a different atmosphere and tension compared to Premier League matches, but so far the Newcastle team's progress since last season continues to improve and the Newcastle team has really become one of the top Premier League teams. I am sure that in the next 3 or 4 years the Newcastle team will be on par with other top European teams.
Everything requires a process and Newcastle is going through or carrying out that process.
In the Premier League this season, Newcastle is not too bad and is trying to continue to get points through existing matches so that they can return to the UCL realm in the League standings. However, this is often not easy for Newcastle because the other five teams are also very consistent in winning matches and in the UCL itself, Newcastle is also in the toughest group because it includes top teams from various leagues. However, Newcastle will definitely be able to overcome every challenge that comes their way through any match this season.

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November 09, 2023, 10:53:31 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).

I can't even really believe if ten hag will be able to stay in manchester united till the end of season. I would rather than think if ten hag will be sacked before the end of the season. In my opinion, ten hag is showing how to make its squad gets a setback on its performance.
Manchester united's gameplay is not only terrible to watch but it's also easy to be predicted by other club. Ten hag needs to do something like using the new strategy. He was doing many experiments, but none of these were successful.
It's time for the fans to judge the performance from manchester united. Some people have been yelling ten hag out but that's not enough. The fans need to see ten hag to deliver nothing again before MU's management will be sacking him.

There are many problems are happening in internal of manchester united at this moment. This is a serious problem. Ten hag makes the situation even worse and he was also wasting so much resources of manchester united.

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November 09, 2023, 10:54:36 AM
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Arsenal have suffered some injury crisis of recent,and it has hampared their performances this season.They are without Odegard,Partey,Timber and Gabriel Jesus.These are players who have important and significant impact on and off the pitch.Partey is the engine room to Arsenal's midfield,and when ever they play without him,it seems that midfield doesn't have a good shape.Last night was one of their best games ever because they showed class through out the game.They are leading in their group with 9 points now.It won't be a surprise if Arsenal get to the final or semi final in this Champions league because they are playing beautiful football that can make them to bigger stages in the competition.

Take is easy, let them successfully qualify for the round of sixteen before we start taking about their chances of the Champions League semi finals and also the finals. Last night was a great game, they worked together as a team and achieved three points.

That game didn't go like they didn't have Odegaard in that match, they played without the gunner's captain and still performed well. He has been a good leader and also opening up spaces for his attackers to score goals.
For Thomas Partey, he has been well replaced by Declan Rice. Declan is so solid and has blend in well into the plans of  Mikel Arteta. Arsenal can now let Thomas Partey leave for Saudi Arabia, only when a good replacement comes in.

Jurim Timber and Gabriel Jesus are both players who haven't had a good season, injuries has off course frustrated them. Jurim Timber should be back in the month of January.

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November 09, 2023, 11:52:01 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).
So many things are just unclear about Manchester United and their coach Erik Ten Hang. One thing I need to point out is that Erik Ten Hang had a good preseason tour the first year he entered Manchester United and he was able to finish 3rd with the club and he did perform good in the Europa League.

This season that he didn't sell any of his key players and yet bought other good players, what is happening? This is a big question that needs to be answered. Right from the preseason of this season, the team has beeing performing on the poor octave. Something is wrong with Erik's tactics.

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November 09, 2023, 12:06:28 PM
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Newcastle have three strong opponents in the group and I think their result is not that bad. They still have a chance to even win first place, so it’s too early to say that they should learn something. In previous seasons, we saw the collapse of clubs in much easier conditions (for example, Barcelona, having only two strong opponents, did not qualify from the group).
They are relatively new to European competition, the Chmpions League to be precise, so perhaps they need to get used to the pressure of Europe's biggest competition. But even so, that can't justify their loss of stability in the game. Maybe some of us will take this for granted, but this is a valuable lesson for them, because they know they have to be better if they want to talk more in the Champions League. Now their chances of qualifying from the group stage are very slim, still there but small and it also depends on the results of other clubs.

Yes, their chances are small:

UEFA Champions League 2023/24 - To Qualify From Group F - Newcastle United

Yes 3.20

No 1.30

But such is the group of death - every round (and especially two) everything turns upside down. After beating PSG they were favorites but now have become underdogs. There are still two games ahead so everything could turn around again. Tonali's disqualification and injuries have led to Newcastle having problems with their squad, now they are not playing optimally, so it's still not a matter of experience in my opinion.

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November 09, 2023, 12:18:52 PM
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Manchester united's gameplay is not only terrible to watch but it's also easy to be predicted by other club. Ten hag needs to do something like using the new strategy. He was doing many experiments, but none of these were successful.
It's time for the fans to judge the performance from manchester united. Some people have been yelling ten hag out but that's not enough. The fans need to see ten hag to deliver nothing again before MU's management will be sacking him.
That's true, for example in the Man United match when Hojlund first goal came from an attack created by Wanbissaka, then the Man United players focused on trying the second goal from the same side until the end of the second half. Ten Hag's strategy did not change and continued to press more attacks from Wanbissaka side. Therefore, Copenhagen's players easily read his movements, so that when Rashford received a red card, Erik Ten Hag continued to use the same attacking method, easily being broken by Copenhagen's defenders.

Erik Ten Hag is very monotonous and doesn't take many risks. In the second half they should have played fully, rather than lowering the tension of the game just because there were 10 players. Since Rashford was given a red card, Man United's game has lost direction.

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November 09, 2023, 12:34:50 PM
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Newcastle have three strong opponents in the group and I think their result is not that bad. They still have a chance to even win first place, so it’s too early to say that they should learn something. In previous seasons, we saw the collapse of clubs in much easier conditions (for example, Barcelona, having only two strong opponents, did not qualify from the group).
They are relatively new to European competition, the Chmpions League to be precise, so perhaps they need to get used to the pressure of Europe's biggest competition. But even so, that can't justify their loss of stability in the game. Maybe some of us will take this for granted, but this is a valuable lesson for them, because they know they have to be better if they want to talk more in the Champions League. Now their chances of qualifying from the group stage are very slim, still there but small and it also depends on the results of other clubs.

Yes, their chances are small:

UEFA Champions League 2023/24 - To Qualify From Group F - Newcastle United

Yes 3.20

No 1.30

But such is the group of death - every round (and especially two) everything turns upside down. After beating PSG they were favorites but now have become underdogs. There are still two games ahead so everything could turn around again. Tonali's disqualification and injuries have led to Newcastle having problems with their squad, now they are not playing optimally, so it's still not a matter of experience in my opinion.

So far, every team in Group F  has a chance of qualifying  for the Round of 16. Newcastle are now just 2 points behind PSG. And Dortmund are 3 points behind. If Newcastle  win their next match against PSG, the scenario will change completely. Newcastle  may be able to move  to the second place in the points table. And if they beat Milan in the last match, Newcastle can strengthen the second place in the table. It is still impossible to predict which two teams from Group F will play in the Round of 16.

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November 09, 2023, 12:39:10 PM
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Erik Ten Hag still has enough time to improve Manchester United's performance, but if Erik Ten Hag can do it, currently Manchester United continues to experience a decline in performance and it even looks like Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the next round of the Champions League will be difficult to achieve, last season Erik Ten Hag succeeded in bringing Manchester United to finish in third place but it looks like this season will be a little difficult because Manchester United is experiencing difficulties in terms of players. Erik Ten Hag finds it difficult to develop the playing style of his players so he continues to decline.
Indeed, Man Utd still has 27 matches remaining, but Manchester United has currently experienced 5 defeats even though they have only played 11 matches, whereas last season Manchester Utd experienced only 9 defeats from a total of 38 matches, so from this it can be concluded that Man Utd is in condition not good this season.
No matter how hard they tried to improve Manchester United nut I think Manchester United we saw in the last season because they 'improved' the team, had a much better performance and they could even get a better place in the Premier League but I think Ten Hag completely failed to improve the team and they just decreased the team performance during the summer, if Ten Hag didn't make any changes during the summer they could get better results.
I do believe that the team got ruined this summer not because of any transfers but because they stopped caring. I mean it doesn't look like anyone but Hojlund really cares, Magurie got a little bit more hyped because he almost got sold to another team and he realized he has to do better, and after years of mockery, he became a good defender there, and Hojlund is scoring goals like it is no one's business which is great.

But at the end of the day, we are talking about a situation that has to be a little bit more important, that's the point here and we should be really caring about the deal a bit more, could be done differently in the end and has to be cared about. United could still get better, they just need to care about the games.

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November 09, 2023, 12:54:19 PM
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Manchester united's gameplay is not only terrible to watch but it's also easy to be predicted by other club. Ten hag needs to do something like using the new strategy. He was doing many experiments, but none of these were successful.
It's time for the fans to judge the performance from manchester united. Some people have been yelling ten hag out but that's not enough. The fans need to see ten hag to deliver nothing again before MU's management will be sacking him.
That's true, for example in the Man United match when Hojlund first goal came from an attack created by Wanbissaka, then the Man United players focused on trying the second goal from the same side until the end of the second half. Ten Hag's strategy did not change and continued to press more attacks from Wanbissaka side. Therefore, Copenhagen's players easily read his movements, so that when Rashford received a red card, Erik Ten Hag continued to use the same attacking method, easily being broken by Copenhagen's defenders.

Erik Ten Hag is very monotonous and doesn't take many risks. In the second half they should have played fully, rather than lowering the tension of the game just because there were 10 players. Since Rashford was given a red card, Man United's game has lost direction.
I'm starting to think that Erik Ten Hag is not the coach that Man United really needs because he has not been able to provide a solution for Man United so far. We all know that he doesn't have much knowledge of the Premier League, so it is practically quite difficult for him to make an improvement for Man United. In terms of player composition, Man United actually has many great players, but for some reason, none of the many players seemed to match Ten Hag's strategy, so what happened on the field was that their game looked monotonous and their rhythm did not improve.

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November 09, 2023, 12:55:11 PM
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Wolves - Tottenham is going to be the opening game this week. You know how big hit Tottenham took from Chelsea last week. The red cards they were given brought their hand by a really embarrassing score. However I don't think the mental of the players will be down too much just because of this loss. I expect to get prepared strongly for the Wolves game.

This is a great opportunity to make up for that loss. Tottenham are currently the best away team according to the statistics. The recent away games they played against Wolves weren't easy ones though. However Tottenham weren't this much impressive those times.

The prediction in my mind is that Tottenham would win this game after the emotional lose to Chelsea on Monday night losing important members of the club who have propelled the performance of Tottenham Hotspur.
I'm worried also because, the prediction in my head is that Tottenham Hotspur would either lose or draw against Wolves this weekend.
At home, Wolves have accumulated good number of points against Newcastle, Aston Villa and Manchester City. I won't be boggled seeing them grabbing a point or three points either.

They might be the best team on paper but this is the reality. Manchester United also have enough games to improve, Erik Ten Hag should have defended when he was winning but choose to attack when he need three points and it cost him.
Diego Dalot and Rapheal Varane at defender's that didn't do so well last night.

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November 09, 2023, 01:02:35 PM
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I'm starting to think that Erik Ten Hag is not the coach that Man United really needs because he has not been able to provide a solution for Man United so far. We all know that he doesn't have much knowledge of the Premier League, so it is practically quite difficult for him to make an improvement for Man United. In terms of player composition, Man United actually has many great players, but for some reason, none of the many players seemed to match Ten Hag's strategy, so what happened on the field was that their game looked monotonous and their rhythm did not improve.

ETH was Man Utd's dream coach following his success with Ajax. Man Utd management and fans expected a quick turnaround but that's often not the case with most teams and also, I don't like how Ten Hag is always in a feud with some of his players which ends up in them getting sidelined and possibly see them out of the club. Doesn't speak about good chemistry of the team. If there's no real love in the squad, the entire team would suffer. This is evident in this current ten hag's team. Never seen Rashford and Bruno so frustrated in games. Definitely speaks volume.

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November 09, 2023, 01:10:22 PM
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Wolves - Tottenham is going to be the opening game this week. You know how big hit Tottenham took from Chelsea last week. The red cards they were given brought their hand by a really embarrassing score. However I don't think the mental of the players will be down too much just because of this loss. I expect to get prepared strongly for the Wolves game.

This is a great opportunity to make up for that loss. Tottenham are currently the best away team according to the statistics. The recent away games they played against Wolves weren't easy ones though. However Tottenham weren't this much impressive those times.
They have been in an impressive form through out this season.Their lost to Chelsea is only because they had two red cards in the game.They will be facing Wolves this weekend and they want want to bounce back from the loss they had last weekend.
Mohamed Salah and Nunez are enjoying a very good partnership ever since the start to the season,and I know people are not yet taking Liverpool seriously this season because of how they finished last season,but from all indications, Liverpool are a strong rival to Arsenal,ManCity and Totthenham in a bid to claim this tittle.Joghen Klopp is one man that knows how to challenge for the tittle and he is still that man that can put fear in Pep Guardiola.
All the teams have close points to each other now,we will wait till January to see the team that will be more favourite to lift the EPL trophy this season.

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