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[worth]

@worth

I wouldn't call providing liquidity price manipulation cuz if nobody would it would be pretty bad. If you're not driving price up or down unnaturally it should be ok and is even neccessary because people don't buy illiquid coins.

Ah, OK. I tended to assume the coins being sold were being dumped by miners and the only talk I ever hear about people placing walls is to manipulate price. I just buy it and hold it so day trading is not my wheelhouse.

About SC:
All good, man. I'm just still really burned out from the 20MB Bitcoin discussion and the last BW screw-fork and i really don't want to have more of this shit right now. I can read the market and it tells me we don't need SC or even a discussion about it. We are very good positioned the way Uno is right now and i think SC shouldn't be discussed below 2mln$ cap and decent testing outside Uno. That's all. Just the burn out.

Cool. I agree, UNO has a great future regardless. Wasn't trying to stir the pot.

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[edgar]

I dont mind stirring the pot.

one step at a time!!

gustav is right albeit a tad aggressive, but it seems thats the direction this thread is heading.

shouty this, and already decided that.

its wearing me out!

consider me afk & try not to break it while im gone

ed

[gustav]

The times of miners making an impact on the market are long gone in Uno. It's an investors wet dream the way it is (if the neophiles don't screw it up) and hugely under value.
Change isn't important for it now, it's very good the way it is and we can still improve a lot on pools, hashrate and so on (price plays an important role there). What we need is investors confidence for good demand/supply ratio.
MM update was shortterm negative for the price because delivery was suboptimal. Lots of coins sold on the screwfork. So the last thing we need are more screwforks.
Sellprusse has just gone away and buyers slowly taking over so i'd really recommend to be patient instead of starting more fork-bullshit or even big talks about it. Promises about increased demand from more screwforks aren't believed by anyone. We don't need it now.

Liquidity is important so in case someone wants to sell coins the price shouldn't move down a lot. Not daytrading neccessarily. I'm more value and swingtrader.

The thread is monitored by many people of course and maybe you noticed increased sellorders popping up today? Not a lot but still. The market always tells you a story and today it said "what are these fools starting to discuss such a shit now we just wanted to move up or don't we? Can we have 1 week without forks?"

A scheduled hardfork and a strong bullmarket are mutually exclusive so i don't see why we should discuss a hardfork when the last one is not 100% right yet (still problems with linux, wallet not nice and so on) and it's not even priced in yet. Strategically a very, very bad move to bring up SC right now or even try to press the issue.

Let's care about the wallet, the linux-thing, more pools and good marketing now. SC won't do any good currently imo. Try increasing Bitcoin blocksize first if you're not burned out yet.  

SC might be a great move on higher cap though but certainly not within the next few months. So let's really put the discussion on the bucket list for later on. Thanks.


@edgar yeah, sorry. I'm just sick of forks right now and also of discussions. The coin is brilliant now and SC is really nothing of urgency. Just making a point before the same shit like with the blocksize debate in btc starts over here. Let's just peacfully improve on current grounds. Another fork is a bad idea right now. Totally.

I'm off now too.

[IMZ]

@ Gustav: taa. My wallet is 0.1, and running. Will tell IMZ Ian.

"Let's care about the wallet, the linux-thing, more pools and good marketing now. SC won't do any good currently imo."

imo too

IMZ Mark

[BitcoinNational]

RE: SC
Enough said.  And well said, UNO community is very informed and wise.
Let us say tabled until proven by the neophiliacs.  So 2016 before revisiting the topic.
I do hope UNO, as it is, is already ready for S.C. tech.  (no fork needed)
 

[gustav]

RE: SC
Enough said.  And well said, UNO community is very informed and wise.
Let us say tabled until proven by the neophiliacs.  So 2016 before revisiting the topic.
I do hope UNO, as it is, is already ready for S.C. tech.  (no fork needed)
 

I think getting everything from the last update right first and meanwhile letting the market now undisturbed do its thing for the next couple of months is very good so we can have pricediscovery for the MM update and current markets are just fine for it.

Then 2016 discussion about sidechains ideally implemented by Maxwell himself after solid testing on an outside coin should be a really good plan and will be very positive for Uno imo in case SC prove to be useful and safe.

Bringing it right now before pricediscovery for latest update and before it's even 100% will potentially cause more trouble than benefits, i think. Just leave the market to itself now without any upcoming stress-events so we can have the needed pricediscovery to get hashrate and poolsupport up before next halving occures. Essential stuff first, one step at a time so everyone can be happy.  



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Last chance for Uno below 3$ btw. Grab 'em while you can  

[BitcoinNational]

Agree.  First orders of business are:

1.  China
2.  MM pool promoting
3.  Turtle Power price discovery/support
4.  Wallet 'beautification' and full completion (Android)
5.  Media/Website promotion (creating some buzz)
6.  more price discovery
7.  more Devs ... I think we have room for a couple more C++ smart people to formally join the ranks
8.  some kind of trade bot 'Stablizing Program' ... relates to Coretanium
9.  marketing plans
10.  okay now can rediscuss side chain if the above is done
 

[FallingKnife]

UNO Base markets opened on Cryptopia

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange

Oh yeah!!   This exchange just keeps getting better and better!  What a great surprise! Didn't see this coming!






Add this to the long list of good news that isn't currently priced into Uno.

[balu2]

Great news! Thanks Cryptopia!  

Tradevolume for Uno is up this week on cryptopia. The LTC/UNO market looks good too.

[siameze]

Plenty of cheap UNO on the guild to get you started too. I wish they had a feed tho :/

[IMZ]

And lookee me: on Cryptopia at this second. Morning, krypto hoomernz!

[PM-ed Siameze about a 'feed.']

IMZ Mark

[BitcoinNational]

https://1broker.com (example only in no way an endorsement)
I came to post the above.
But I am amazed at the Cryptopia News!  This opens a major door of opportunity.

Services like the one seen above will let you leverage (gamble/bet) all the majors: DAX, DOW, APPL, Telsa, Alibaba, Gold, USD, JPY.
All done via crypto.  If you think about it most would rather just hold the stock via traditional methods, but you'd be missing the point of these kinds of 'crypto brokerages'.  SHORT term plays only, like a cold shower  

So I came here to say I see UNO having a future as the 'pledged' underlining asset for these kinds of services.  

And it must be some weird synergy because the Cryptopia UNO market thing is in line with this concept too!

[IanRidgwell]

@worth

I wouldn't call providing liquidity price manipulation cuz if nobody would it would be pretty bad. If you're not driving price up or down unnaturally it should be ok and is even neccessary because people don't buy illiquid coins.

Ah, OK. I tended to assume the coins being sold were being dumped by miners and the only talk I ever hear about people placing walls is to manipulate price. I just buy it and hold it so day trading is not my wheelhouse.

About SC:
All good, man. I'm just still really burned out from the 20MB Bitcoin discussion and the last BW screw-fork and i really don't want to have more of this shit right now. I can read the market and it tells me we don't need SC or even a discussion about it. We are very good positioned the way Uno is right now and i think SC shouldn't be discussed below 2mln$ cap and decent testing outside Uno. That's all. Just the burn out.

Cool. I agree, UNO has a great future regardless. Wasn't trying to stir the pot.

There aren't enough coins being mined by miners to be considered a dump (IMHO).

I know this is naive and ideological but it makes me happy to say...

Rare coins don't get dumped, they are sold, in desperation, tears and regret.

[cragv]

There aren't enough coins being mined by miners to be considered a dump (IMHO).

I know this is naive and ideological but it makes me happy to say...

Rare coins don't get dumped, they are sold, in desperation, tears and regret.

That's a good point!

Also, go Cryptopia! Awesome!

And Mark, we'll talk feeds soon. The database I'm working on to replace the Trade Tracker spreadsheet will allow such a thing (a 'feed' in this context being a stream of data from a resource such as a trading database that gives current price, UNO availability, etc. I'm learning to code this as I go so progress is slow, but we're getting there).

Cheers!

[FallingKnife]

That's awesome about Cryptopia. Lets show 'em a little love.

Do you see a favorite pair?  Perhaps make help make the market, place some buy/sell orders.

[IMZ]

Taa, cragv. [Interimly, my wallet is open if I'm on line.]

IMZ Mark

[gustav]

Cryptopia, great!

I read on the website captchadd is our new dev. I didn't even realize. Great news. Welcome on board captchadd! 

[balu2]

Activate the super turtle!

[siameze]

I need an updated list of nodes and the clients they are running, for data purposes. If no one has one already I'll throw it up a gist and make it auto update.

[FallingKnife]

I need an updated list of nodes and the clients they are running, for data purposes. If no one has one already I'll throw it up a gist and make it auto update.

You can find that here.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!network