Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread

[LTU_btc]

Ajax - PSV is starting soon. Looks that odds for PSV dropped recently, now it's 1.95. So probably there was lot of ads made on their win. Despite few recent not so good results like draw in league in loss against Feyenoord in cup, PSV is still favorites.
Usually we see plenty of goals when these teams face each other, and odds for BTTS and over 2.5 goals is so low that not even worth to combine it. Other option  is going with bigger number of goals or totals of each team separately.

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[tiCeR]

Ajax - PSV is starting soon. Looks that odds for PSV dropped recently, now it's 1.95. So probably there was lot of ads made on their win. Despite few recent not so good results like draw in league in loss against Feyenoord in cup, PSV is still favorites.
Usually we see plenty of goals when these teams face each other, and odds for BTTS and over 2.5 goals is so low that not even worth to combine it. Other option  is going with bigger number of goals or totals of each team separately.

It is not that this game matters for the Eredivisie championship, but it is still a great game in the league. Too bad that Ajax Amsterdam struggled so much that this game has no meaning for the determination of the title winner. But for Ajax Amsterdam a win could be of great importance in the competition for the 2nd rank. I think not all hope is lost yet to still make it into the Champions League, but no doubt that this is a tough mission to complete. If they lose this game and Feyenoord wins their game against Alkmaar, I think the last chance to qualify for the Champions League would be gone.

[Volgastallion]

Right now Ajax is winning, lets see how much they can hold this win, seems like Ajax not only want to win the derby by the derby itself but also to took off the record of no loses in hands of PSV, also surely the record of most points in a season can be in play, so much playing in this derby.

[MAAManda]

Ajax - PSV is starting soon. Looks that odds for PSV dropped recently, now it's 1.95. So probably there was lot of ads made on their win. Despite few recent not so good results like draw in league in loss against Feyenoord in cup, PSV is still favorites.
Usually we see plenty of goals when these teams face each other, and odds for BTTS and over 2.5 goals is so low that not even worth to combine it. Other option  is going with bigger number of goals or totals of each team separately.

Steven Berghuis & Luuk de Jong have scored goals for their clubs, even though HT hasn't happened yet, but we have seen 2 goals there. That's the reason why the odds for over 2.5 goals are quite low, I think the under 3 bet is dead here, and we will see maybe another 3 goals to come. For now I don't bet, it's better to wait for one of the teams to be ahead then choose the team that is behind on the handicap bet, I think it's a wise choice when two productive teams meet.

[temple]

Right now Ajax is winning, lets see how much they can hold this win, seems like Ajax not only want to win the derby by the derby itself but also to took off the record of no loses in hands of PSV, also surely the record of most points in a season can be in play, so much playing in this derby.

That is not the case anymore and now it seems as if PSV Eindhoven is taking more and more control of the game. Their offensive power is outweighing that of Ajax Amsterdam, but so far Ajax is resisting the attacks with a decent defense. It is still an open game and I thought that PSV might not go all out in this game since they are so far ahead at the top of the table, but obviously I was wrong. They want the best result possible here and the three points.

[Weawant]

Ajax since aft they got their form back later this season, they have been on an very impressive streak of performance such that they have secured more victories than losses meanwhile PSV has been on a very good record since the beginning nod this season and so they have their form and performance intact so no less expectations is on them.

They have already gone pass the first half and are in the 60-80th minutes of the second half as both teams have secured a goal already and are on an equalizer. If this game ends with this score line, you can be sure that PSV wouldn't be affected much because they are already far ahead on the table and are not anywhere close to ajax neither will winning this game take ajax any closer to PSV so PSV has got almost nothing to loose if they are unable to win this game but then I think they wouldn't want to settle for a lose but a draw will be much fair considering they are been hosted by ajax

[Koal-84]

I agree with what you said. The most realistic result that Ajax can get if they can continue to maintain their performance is third place replacing Twente. Even though it's currently 4 points apart, I don't think it's mission impossible. If they want to catch Feyenoord they not only have to perform well, but they also hope that Feyenoord will perform poorly in the next few matches and I think Feyenoord is performing quite well this season.

It came as a surprise, but PSV and Ajax ended in a draw. Actually an unexpected point for Ajax this season.
But Twente also won and gained points against Ajax, Twente would definitely still be within reach, but if Feyenoord win tomorrow, second place will be impossible or very difficult.

[LTU_btc]

It came as a surprise, but PSV and Ajax ended in a draw. Actually an unexpected point for Ajax this season.
But Twente also won and gained points against Ajax, Twente would definitely still be within reach, but if Feyenoord win tomorrow, second place will be impossible or very difficult.

In today's game I think that Ajax even looked better than PSV, but it wasn't enough to win. And I expected a bit different kind of game from these teams.
If Feyenoord will win tomorrow, reaching 2nd place for Ajax would be like a miracle. Even to reach Twente you hvae to be almost perfect in remaining part of season and expect some poor results from Twente.
AZ - Feyenoord tomorrow, recently AZ perfroming very poorly, Feyenoord is big favorite there.

[entertheabyss]

It came as a surprise, but PSV and Ajax ended in a draw. Actually an unexpected point for Ajax this season.
But Twente also won and gained points against Ajax, Twente would definitely still be within reach, but if Feyenoord win tomorrow, second place will be impossible or very difficult.

Ajax stats this season, 10W 5D 5L. The club's making progress following them missing out on their key players and also not sitting in good position to sign backup players capable of enchanting the performance of the club. PSV shared points with Ajax after much efforts, they couldn't give up but the expected results was denied. Good performance from Ajax. Checking their last 5 previous meetings, PSV have dominated and won them all. Ajax have suffered crucial defeats but they try this time around, holding PSV to a draw tie.

[Godday]

If Feyenoord wins, then Ajax will be 11 points behind Feyenoord and that is very high. I've said before that it would be absolutely impossible for Ajax to replace Feyenoord in second place. I said third place is still possible but looking at the current situation it will be a tough task for Ajax. But at least Ajax is better than Alkmaar and I hope they can get fourth place to qualify for the European league qualification because they are indeed more worthy than Alkmaar in my opinion.

[Koal-84]

I agree, the third place is very unlikely, for Ajax the best result today would be a draw between Feyenoord and AZ, but I think Feyenoord will win, then only the third place is within reach for Ajax, but now wait and see how the match ends today, Feyenoord is currently leading by one goal.

[tbterryboy]

If Feyenoord wins, then Ajax will be 11 points behind Feyenoord and that is very high. I've said before that it would be absolutely impossible for Ajax to replace Feyenoord in second place. I said third place is still possible but looking at the current situation it will be a tough task for Ajax. But at least Ajax is better than Alkmaar and I hope they can get fourth place to qualify for the European league qualification because they are indeed more worthy than Alkmaar in my opinion.

Wieffer early goal give lead to visitors in this important match of the Eredivisie where at the end of the first half Feyenoord is leading by 0–1 against AZ Alkmaar with if Feyenoord able to keep this lead and win the match surely they could be able to have strong hold on second spot with 11 points difference from Ajax and 5 points difference from Twente while this could be big setback for AZ Alkmaar as they will be without any win in last five matches.

In first half we have both teams at the same level of performance but a good chance which converted by Feyenoord give them lead and now things are looking good for them, but 45 minutes second half could be also important because both teams are giving their best in this match at the top of the league table.

[temple]

I agree, the third place is very unlikely, for Ajax the best result today would be a draw between Feyenoord and AZ, but I think Feyenoord will win, then only the third place is within reach for Ajax, but now wait and see how the match ends today, Feyenoord is currently leading by one goal.

I think the third place is still a realistic goal for them as a 6 points gap can be made up for quite quickly and I think they still have the game to play against Twente, which means if they win that game they are in distance to catch them as soon as Twente makes a mistake.

Yesterday I thought if everything plays out perfectly well for Ajax Amsterdam, then they would have won their game against PSV Eindhoven and Feyenoord would have lost their game today. Only then I think it would have made sense to still aim at the Champions League qualification, but now that chance is gone unless something wild is about to happen, but I doubt it.

[Slow death]

Jax managed to recover, I say this because they managed to play against the team at the top of the table and even so Ajax didn't lose and even so Ajax didn't concede many goals. On the contrary, Ajax managed to play a balanced game in which they scored 1 goal, conceded only 1 goal and had 48% of the ball. ajax just needs to continue with this performance and pray that AZ loses in more games so that ajax can stay in position number 4, after occupying position number 4, ajax will have to pray that twente loses in many games and honestly I'm not seeing twente losing in many games, so I see it more realistic for ajax to finish in position 4. but it's still not impossible for ajax to finish in position 3

twente will still have very difficult games ahead, I'm talking about games like against PSV which will be next month, if twente loses in that game then ajax could get very close to twente, then twente will still play against ajax so if twente If you lose points before these two very difficult games then Ajax could finish in position number 3. Now something that I consider extremely difficult, not to use the word impossible, would be to see Ajax finishing in position number 2, I highly doubt that this will happen. In my opinion, PSV will be champion and Feyenoord will be in second place. This is already a lost season for Ajax in terms of winning the title and in terms of getting a place in the European Champions League. but ajax showed great improvements

that looking at these great improvements, I can easily say that next season Ajax will fight to become champions again and will have a greater chance of doing so, of course this will only happen if they don't sell any players and don't dismiss the current coach. I'm wondering what the hell is going on with AZ that in the last 5 games they haven't managed to win in any game, they've had 2 draws and 3 defeats. It's something very bad for them that even ajax, which was much lower in the table, is now catching up to them. This must be a huge disappointment for AZ fans

[QueenVera]

In today's game I think that Ajax even looked better than PSV, but it wasn't enough to win. And I expected a bit different kind of game from these teams.
If Feyenoord will win tomorrow, reaching 2nd place for Ajax would be like a miracle. Even to reach Twente you hvae to be almost perfect in remaining part of season and expect some poor results from Twente.
AZ - Feyenoord tomorrow, recently AZ perfroming very poorly, Feyenoord is big favorite there.

The Eredivise is quite competitive no doubt and consistency works very much for the teams there. It's the second half of the season already and every game counts. PSV and Ajax are doing explicitly well in the league as they've been able to keep up with game victories too. The second half of the season is very much essential in the league as it's believed that the various team managers will make new and better strategies to increase team's performance too.

 For Alkmaar, they're still yet to be balanced in theiperformances and it's really taking toll on them and their points on the league table too. They've just got to find a balance and get back to their pace. Their league isn't even as competitive as other European leagues as there are just a few teams that are tough in their play. They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too.

[Godday]

 For Alkmaar, they're still yet to be balanced in theiperformances and it's really taking toll on them and their points on the league table too. They've just got to find a balance and get back to their pace. Their league isn't even as competitive as other European leagues as there are just a few teams that are tough in their play. They can still meet up with points and stay at a good spot on the table too. Congrats to Ajax and PSV, they're good and are growing better gradually regardless of the little loopholes that they're having too.

Alkmaar actually performed quite well at the start of the season. They achieved several wins and placed them in 3rd and 4th place in the standings. But in the last few matches entering the second half they appeared very different. They have never won even once in their last 5 matches. A different situation occurred at Ajax where they were able to achieve positive results when entering the second half of the season. I think these two teams will compete for a place in the Europa League next season.

[Koal-84]

I think the third place is still a realistic goal for them as a 6 points gap can be made up for quite quickly and I think they still have the game to play against Twente, which means if they win that game they are in distance to catch them as soon as Twente makes a mistake.

Yesterday I thought if everything plays out perfectly well for Ajax Amsterdam, then they would have won their game against PSV Eindhoven and Feyenoord would have lost their game today. Only then I think it would have made sense to still aim at the Champions League qualification, but now that chance is gone unless something wild is about to happen, but I doubt it.

Yes third place is still a realistic position if Ajax can maintain their form, a draw is not an embarrassment against PSV this season, but that only applies to Ajax this season the standards have to be higher.

Ajax winning and Feyenoord drawing would of course have been the optimal option, but not a very realistic one either.

[Volgastallion]

Asides of always you want to win a derby and more when you are the biggest team in the country like Ajax is, this time it was a perfect result for Ajax, because it was a test for them against a super team this season like PSV, with this game you can know where you are really positioned and how good are you.

[temple]

I think the third place is still a realistic goal for them as a 6 points gap can be made up for quite quickly and I think they still have the game to play against Twente, which means if they win that game they are in distance to catch them as soon as Twente makes a mistake.

Yesterday I thought if everything plays out perfectly well for Ajax Amsterdam, then they would have won their game against PSV Eindhoven and Feyenoord would have lost their game today. Only then I think it would have made sense to still aim at the Champions League qualification, but now that chance is gone unless something wild is about to happen, but I doubt it.

Yes third place is still a realistic position if Ajax can maintain their form, a draw is not an embarrassment against PSV this season, but that only applies to Ajax this season the standards have to be higher.

Ajax winning and Feyenoord drawing would of course have been the optimal option, but not a very realistic one either.

Well given how PSV Eindhoven is performing this season, I think a draw against them in any season is not an embarrassment. 63:9 goals is serious performance here, but from Ajax' point of view they just can't afford any more draws if they want to keep their goal alive to play in an international tournament next season.

I admit that I only now noticed that the third position is the Champions League qualification in the Eredivisie... I just wanted to talk about how important it is for Ajax to play internationally because otherwise they wouldn't be able to retain their top talents for some time because they would leave Ajax even earlier then. But if they can play the Champions League, they often decide to stay for a few seasons as Ajax is the perfect club for them to grow and to present themselves in European football. They have two direct qualifiers and one play-off qualifier. I somehow missed that. Still a chance for Ajax then.

[redsun114]

Well given how PSV Eindhoven is performing this season, I think a draw against them in any season is not an embarrassment. 63:9 goals is serious performance here, but from Ajax' point of view they just can't afford any more draws if they want to keep their goal alive to play in an international tournament next season.

I admit that I only now noticed that the third position is the Champions League qualification in the Eredivisie... I just wanted to talk about how important it is for Ajax to play internationally because otherwise they wouldn't be able to retain their top talents for some time because they would leave Ajax even earlier then. But if they can play the Champions League, they often decide to stay for a few seasons as Ajax is the perfect club for them to grow and to present themselves in European football. They have two direct qualifiers and one play-off qualifier. I somehow missed that. Still a chance for Ajax then.

I am hopeful for the Ajax to have third spot into league table until end of this season because now every week they are improving their performance and their results are also allowing them to have better chance for this with in last five matches AZ Alkmaar having 3 points and Ajax 11 which cut the deficit and now both are on level Twente having 6 points difference which is surely interesting but if Ajax are able to give their 100% then surely things could be favourable for them, and they will be achieved but how Twente will perform this is also important.

Ajax vs PSV were interesting and both give their best but in second half I believe Ajax were better even they fail to take any advantage, but things are going good for them and their future until end because they are not back in business.