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December 04, 2023, 02:16:43 PM
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Ajax suffer this season, it's pretty bad to watch these players having nothing to prove this season. Ajax can still make it up for the top 4 only if they're consistent in upcoming games. They can do it, I know they're capable but they just need a match or events to ginger the players and the coach to emphasize on good records this season. I've never for a second, consider Eredivisie league as a competitive one because mere watching their matches, doesn't prove any form interest actions, rather its boring and full with average teams that can't even stand the pressure form European clubs.
There's great improvement on their side currently, looking at the early part of the season when the season just begun, Ajax was so poor and it was even worse that they were almost consistent with loosing their games repeatedly and it was almost looking like they weren't getting any better soonest because they suffered loss even with a weak team.

Currently they have improved greatly, on paper they used to be and probably are amongst the biggest teams in the eredivisie, last season before the selling off of their players, their performance were one to be reckoned with but after the sales of their players the effects was evident on them by every passing match but they are currently bouncing back regardless and I'm sure they may even finish tops moreover eredivisie isn't so competitive as they are mostly average.

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December 04, 2023, 02:41:42 PM
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I totally agree that PSV are literally unstoppable. Because they have won all of their 14 games played in the league until now. They are incredible in offense and defense at the same time. It started to seem to me like they have changed roles with Ajax. Because Ajax also had this kind of solid seasons but I just don't know any of their starts was this huge.  Grin

PSV are really good at balancing the Eredivisie and Champions League at the same time also. Maybe they might not see more than last 16 in the Champions League but still it is a good success.

Thankfully Ajax are also on a great streak in the Eredivisie without a loss for many weeks. There is a huge point difference between the Champions League area and them though but they can at least join a competition by finishing in much better place.  Smiley

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December 04, 2023, 03:20:36 PM
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It feels like we are seeing that old and good PSV from the mid 2000 where they are very capable of reaching good stages in the Champions League, its good to see them back to that levels after son many years being one more team in Europa league or even worse than that.

The numers of their season in Eredivisie are beyond amazing. 14 played 14 wins, 50 goals scored and only 6 goals allowed!!!!!

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December 04, 2023, 05:57:45 PM
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I totally agree that PSV are literally unstoppable. Because they have won all of their 14 games played in the league until now. They are incredible in offense and defense at the same time. It started to seem to me like they have changed roles with Ajax. Because Ajax also had this kind of solid seasons but I just don't know any of their starts was this huge.  Grin

PSV are really good at balancing the Eredivisie and Champions League at the same time also. Maybe they might not see more than last 16 in the Champions League but still it is a good success.

Thankfully Ajax are also on a great streak in the Eredivisie without a loss for many weeks. There is a huge point difference between the Champions League area and them though but they can at least join a competition by finishing in much better place.  Smiley
PSV have swept all their matches in the Eredivisie this season with a win. their statistics are impressive, with 50 goals scored in 14 matches. this is an incredible record, and shows that PSV is too tough for any team.

Last season, PSV finished as runners up behind Feyenoord. but this time, they look more than ready to win the title. on the other hand, it could be said that PSV have also confirmed their place in the round of 16 of the UCL, simply playing a draw when facing Sevilla. I think they will fight further than just the top 16.

Ajax have had a tough season so far, but they are starting to show improvement in form. Ajax still has a chance to improve their position in the points table. they need to continue to be consistent so they don't fall into the degradation zone again like yesterday.

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December 05, 2023, 10:39:18 AM
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I totally agree that PSV are literally unstoppable. Because they have won all of their 14 games played in the league until now. They are incredible in offense and defense at the same time. It started to seem to me like they have changed roles with Ajax. Because Ajax also had this kind of solid seasons but I just don't know any of their starts was this huge.  Grin

PSV are really good at balancing the Eredivisie and Champions League at the same time also. Maybe they might not see more than last 16 in the Champions League but still it is a good success.

Thankfully Ajax are also on a great streak in the Eredivisie without a loss for many weeks. There is a huge point difference between the Champions League area and them though but they can at least join a competition by finishing in much better place.  Smiley
PSV are really showing us that they seriously want the title and are chasing it so well with very incredible stats as these stats maintained over time could bring the league home. I think they’ve replaced Ajax who were known for this domineering stats in the Netherland League. They are through to the 16 of the UCL and yes, they could meet a top team but with their composure they could be one surprise team to watch out for in Europe.

 Yea, Ajax had a poor start but they’ve quickly regained their foot and are bouncing back so fast, leaving no stone unturned and they can probably finish at a spot for an European competition next season, good for them the January transfer is fast approaching and then they'll strength their squad better to be able to finish in a better spot for the European competition.

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December 05, 2023, 10:54:18 AM
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They are through to the 16 of the UCL and yes, they could meet a top team but with their composure they could be one surprise team to watch out for in Europe.

PSV is playing great football in local Dutch league, but I clearly doubt that they can do anything serious in CL
all will depend on a draw, but you could see against Arsenal that difference in quality is simply to big to be ignored, and that they will easily drop-out on some of top European teams

but playing in R16 in CL is already a success for PSV, and Feyenoord didn't succeed to pass, but they will have better time in Europa league, where they have better chances to pass further
also, congrats to PSV on all wins so far, it is a rare event to see
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December 05, 2023, 03:11:40 PM
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They are through to the 16 of the UCL and yes, they could meet a top team but with their composure they could be one surprise team to watch out for in Europe.

PSV is playing great football in local Dutch league, but I clearly doubt that they can do anything serious in CL
all will depend on a draw, but you could see against Arsenal that difference in quality is simply to big to be ignored, and that they will easily drop-out on some of top European teams

but playing in R16 in CL is already a success for PSV, and Feyenoord didn't succeed to pass, but they will have better time in Europa league, where they have better chances to pass further
also, congrats to PSV on all wins so far, it is a rare event to see

But isn't PSV already qualified for the next round? I don't think they need a draw as they played their games against Lens and won one game 1-0 and tied the other game 1-1. No matter how this last game ends, nothing can change in that group anymore for Arsenal and PSV. The odds aren't great or anything, but if there was still something on the line for PSV I think a bet on PSV could have made sense. But this way both teams are playing for nothing.

However, I agree that next round I don't see them as a tough contender. But what they are doing in the Eredivisie is insane. That goal difference!  Shocked

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PSV in champions seems to be having very big troubles in defense,i think is not a change in the way they play, its most like the quality of the teams in Champions make them pay every failure, and eredivisie that doesnt happen, for the lack of the offensive players in the teams.

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December 06, 2023, 03:30:18 PM
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PSV in champions seems to be having very big troubles in defense,i think is not a change in the way they play, its most like the quality of the teams in Champions make them pay every failure, and eredivisie that doesnt happen, for the lack of the offensive players in the teams.
I think in the Champions League PSV is still lucky to be in group B, and another piece of luck that I see is that Sevilla is not having a stable performance. In the next match against Arsenal, the Dutch representative only needs to force Arteta's squad to a draw, this opportunity is quite open considering that the match will be played at Philips Stadium.

I'm pretty sure PSV will qualify for the round of 16 even if they draw or lose to Arsenal. In short, if Lens vs Sevilla draws, or Lens loses to Sevilla then PSV will automatically qualify. On the other hand, for me personally it is actually very natural that PSV is a little different when appearing in the UCL, because we know the competitive level of the Eredivisie and they come from there.

In the Eredivisie PSV is unstoppable, last week Feyenoord also failed to become a stumbling block for PSV steps, now the point difference has formed to 10 points, I think 50% of them have won the trophy now.

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December 06, 2023, 05:27:49 PM
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But isn't PSV already qualified for the next round? I don't think they need a draw as they played their games against Lens and won one game 1-0 and tied the other game 1-1. No matter how this last game ends, nothing can change in that group anymore for Arsenal and PSV. The odds aren't great or anything, but if there was still something on the line for PSV I think a bet on PSV could have made sense. But this way both teams are playing for nothing.

However, I agree that next round I don't see them as a tough contender. But what they are doing in the Eredivisie is insane. That goal difference!  Shocked
PSV are really one team to watch out for in this year’s UCL Edition because they’re creating some incredible stats that are worth seeing and they could just be the surprise team of the season’s UCL, they’re through to the Round of 16 without much stress and that’s shows the characteristics of a winner, (champions).

 The Round of 16 might be quite a tough one for them but we can’t fail to give them some part of our money when we place bet on them because their stats this season are seemingly crazy,they're doing very well both in the UCL and their domestic l (Eredivisie) League, however with the way they're going I won't be suprised if they get past the round of 16.

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PSV in champions seems to be having very big troubles in defense,i think is not a change in the way they play, its most like the quality of the teams in Champions make them pay every failure, and eredivisie that doesnt happen, for the lack of the offensive players in the teams.
A sample of seriousness will push a club to do far better than their current opponents this season. PSV is regarded as one of those more competitive teams in the UCL and their home league; they are an efficient unit that doesn't mess around. PSV dominates the Eredivisie, which is thrilling exciting information for the club's followers. The competition is ferocious. They're also at an even higher level in Group B of the UEFA Champions League. Peter Bosz, the PSV manager, has transformed his team, and he is expecting ultimate triumph.

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A really impressive performance by ajax this evening against Waalwijk has earned them victory and they were able to get three points by the end of the game tonight, I must commend their resilience in this match as they kept on setting the pace while Waalwijk kept trying to meet up with them by getting equalizer almost immediately after their goals.

Ajax has so far show that they are improving and getting back on their feet well enough in the eredivsie this season, they seem to be getting out of their poor beginning and getting into regaining their form for which they were known for in the Eredivisie, if only they can add consistency to their current improving performance, it's very possible they could regain back their dominance in the eredividisie once again. The victory they got tonight has earned them three points Which has further increase their points to 21 and gotten them to the sixth position on the table, it's very possible they could make it to the top four before the league ends.

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December 06, 2023, 09:09:30 PM
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But isn't PSV already qualified for the next round? I don't think they need a draw as they played their games against Lens and won one game 1-0 and tied the other game 1-1. No matter how this last game ends, nothing can change in that group anymore for Arsenal and PSV. The odds aren't great or anything, but if there was still something on the line for PSV I think a bet on PSV could have made sense. But this way both teams are playing for nothing.

However, I agree that next round I don't see them as a tough contender. But what they are doing in the Eredivisie is insane. That goal difference!  Shocked
PSV are really one team to watch out for in this year’s UCL Edition because they’re creating some incredible stats that are worth seeing and they could just be the surprise team of the season’s UCL, they’re through to the Round of 16 without much stress and that’s shows the characteristics of a winner, (champions).

 The Round of 16 might be quite a tough one for them but we can’t fail to give them some part of our money when we place bet on them because their stats this season are seemingly crazy,they're doing very well both in the UCL and their domestic l (Eredivisie) League, however with the way they're going I won't be suprised if they get past the round of 16.

I would like to believe that you are right because I think it is exciting if a team that is not expected to go very far in the Champions League actually is ready to present some surprises. But I don't think that PSV has enough quality to win a game against a team like Manchester City or Real Madrid. I don't only want to be pessimistic, but in a realistic world I think it would not be looking good for them against the biggest teams. In the Eredivisie they are above every other team and literally untouchable.

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December 07, 2023, 09:53:58 AM
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I totally agree that PSV are literally unstoppable. Because they have won all of their 14 games played in the league until now. They are incredible in offense and defense at the same time. It started to seem to me like they have changed roles with Ajax. Because Ajax also had this kind of solid seasons but I just don't know any of their starts was this huge.  Grin

PSV are really good at balancing the Eredivisie and Champions League at the same time also. Maybe they might not see more than last 16 in the Champions League but still it is a good success.

Thankfully Ajax are also on a great streak in the Eredivisie without a loss for many weeks. There is a huge point difference between the Champions League area and them though but they can at least join a competition by finishing in much better place.  Smiley
I see PSV as too superior and really strong in the League. They have a goal difference almost twice as big as second place. They are also the team that has conceded the fewest goals in the League, as well as scoring the most goals in the League. This is a crazy record. Will they end the season without defeat, and repeat what Arsenal did in the 2003/2004 premier league?

They are also quite good in the Champions League. I think they will be able to reach at least the quarterfinals or maybe the semifinals.

Ajax looks to be struggling this season. They also performed poorly in the UEFA European League by not achieving a single win. There is a huge difference between the two teams this season.

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December 07, 2023, 02:37:16 PM
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AZ Alkmaar continue to be wounded in the championship race .AZ Alkmaar lost 2-1 at home to NEC Nijmegen and remain on 30 points.PSV are likely to be champions this season.We must say that they are progressing superbly in the league.The team, which has increased its points to 42 with 14 wins in 14 matches and managed to increase the point difference with its closest rival Feyenoord to 10, continues its championship path without any damage.
Ajax, on the other hand, have started to recover.Ajax, who won 3-2 away to Waalwijk, have continued their rise in recent weeks and increased their points to 21 and managed to move up to 6th place.I must say that they deserve a big congratulations if they manage to come from so far behind and overtake Feyenoord and AZ Alkmaar.

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I see PSV as too superior and really strong in the League. They have a goal difference almost twice as big as second place. They are also the team that has conceded the fewest goals in the League, as well as scoring the most goals in the League. This is a crazy record. Will they end the season without defeat, and repeat what Arsenal did in the 2003/2004 premier league?

They are also quite good in the Champions League. I think they will be able to reach at least the quarterfinals or maybe the semifinals.

Ajax looks to be struggling this season. They also performed poorly in the UEFA European League by not achieving a single win. There is a huge difference between the two teams this season.
This season, PSV's form is Excellent with 14 wins and no draw or lose. This performance currently places PSV at 1st out of 18 teams in the Eredivisie League. PSV's home form is excellent with the following results : 7 wins, 0 draws, and 0 losses. And their away form is considered excellent, as a result of 7 wins, 0 draws, and 0 losses.

 PSV has scored a total of 50 goals this season in Eredivisie. That’s quite massive, for them them to do the invincible of Arsenal well it’s very possible especially if they’ll get out of the UCL early and focus majorly on the league, they’re a surprise team this season in Europe. Their counterparts, Ajax are doing quite bad and poor but they’re already turning the situation around for their good.

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December 07, 2023, 03:59:14 PM
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Anyone knows who owns and what is the record of points in the Eredivisie history?. Because if PSV still in this path maybe they can broke some records, and that can be a very interesting thing to follow and catch for the team, to keep the concetration high when you see the second team far below.

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December 07, 2023, 06:16:51 PM
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I see PSV as too superior and really strong in the League. They have a goal difference almost twice as big as second place. They are also the team that has conceded the fewest goals in the League, as well as scoring the most goals in the League. This is a crazy record. Will they end the season without defeat, and repeat what Arsenal did in the 2003/2004 premier league?

They are also quite good in the Champions League. I think they will be able to reach at least the quarterfinals or maybe the semifinals.

Ajax looks to be struggling this season. They also performed poorly in the UEFA European League by not achieving a single win. There is a huge difference between the two teams this season.
Ajax being sixth and even half the points the leader, it's clear that PSV is the best team in the league right now. I mean Ajax will not stay there for too long, we are talking about a team that played semi finals just a few years ago, they sold all their good players and made a lot of money, so they are going to keep on spending that money on finding cheap great future stars like they always do and that should be something that will take some time.

But during that time, PSV knows that they do not have too much left, they need to do the best they could do for the next few years, they have maybe max 5 years left, and they need to end up winning as much cups and titles as they could in order to get the best out of it.

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December 07, 2023, 08:19:03 PM
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Anyone knows who owns and what is the record of points in the Eredivisie history?. Because if PSV still in this path maybe they can broke some records, and that can be a very interesting thing to follow and catch for the team, to keep the concetration high when you see the second team far below.
If Wiki don't lie, this record belongs to Ajax, in 71/72 season they got 93 points from 102. So, now it looks that this record is possible to reach. Still, I don't believe that they will end season without defeats.
Today they reached another easy win, beating Heerenveen 2:0. Meanwhile Feyenoord is leading vs Volendam 1:0 after 20 minutes.

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Today Feyenoord played against Volendam, in that game Feyenoord was already seen as the favorite to win the game since Volendam is currently in the last position of the table and has gone 5 games without winning while Feyenoord is currently in second place and in the last 5 games there was only 1 defeat. But what seemed easy on paper turned out to be the opposite on the field, Feyenoord managed to score a goal very early, still in the 1st half, but Volendam scored a goal 20 minutes later and with that the game was tied and the 1st half ended. in the 2 half Feyenoord had difficulty scoring more goals, they only managed to score goals after 90 minutes, I must say that even with more than 80% of the ball possession that Feyenoord had, they were still very ineffective in attack.

They were lucky to have scored 2 goals when the game was close to ending, but when you look at their opponent, it doesn't really justify that Feyenoord had such a lack of skills to score many goals early. Anyway, the fact is that there is a difference of 10 points in relation to PSV, and I highly doubt that Feyenoord will be able to reverse the current scenario. especially as long as PSV is winning games consecutively, yesterday PSV had another comfortable victory, they are having an excellent campaign this season, last season was also good for them, although they only managed 2nd place, but this season They have everything to be champions

ajax managed to win in their game, but honestly they won with a lot of difficulty and luck, thanks to the penalty, and they were playing against a weak opponent who is fighting to get close to the relegation zone, but even so ajax had difficulties to win, even There are a lot of things to fix at Ajax and without new players it will be difficult to compete at the same level with the top teams, I'm wondering what the Ajax coach will propose to Ajax's management in terms of signings to reverse the current scenario. because this season there is no way for Ajax to do much in terms of fighting for the title, that is already a lost cause, now they need to focus on not being relegated and preparing the team for next season

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