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December 22, 2023, 03:23:18 PM
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I think we don't have topic about KNVB cup, so will post here. Huge upset happened today. Ajax got kicked out by 4th division (!!!) club USV Hercules after loss 3:2. I think it's not even professional club. Didn't saw what happened there, Ajax made comeback from 2:0 to 2:2, but Hercules somehow scored 3th goal on additional time.
Other interesting result is that AZ won vs Hardenberg from 3rd division only after extra time.
While best game of round between PSV and Twente got postponed because of waterlogged pitch.

Yesterday when i saw that i can believe that result, also i go and check the Hercules team, and man..... i dont know they were even amateurs, and also i learn some about the netherlands lower leagues in the reserach.

Is a good time to see a Ten Hag return? He is doing bad in Manchester right now.

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December 22, 2023, 04:56:52 PM
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Eredivisie is competitive YES, but always have the problem of being monopolized by one or two teams every year, and that make not so fun to watch the battle for title, like now, PSV is already the champion only a miracle or a big missfortune can change that.
Anyways the Netherlands teams always show a good level on europe.

I also think that way. The Eredivision would be boring if the champions were the same club. This is the same as Ligue 1. But I think the battle for places 2 to 5 is still fun to watch. I love it when teams like Twente, Feyenoord and Ajax compete for a place in the Champions League. They are very competitive. But as you said, only a miracle can make PSV fail to win the title this season. Ajax has performed well in the last few matches but it looks like they will not get second place this season because I think Feyenoord is playing quite well this season.
Definitely PSV is securing a spot for the champions league next season and are most likely to win the league this season, going by the pattern of the eredivisie, they have a pattern whereby once the bigger players gets to the top they hardly drop down because for them the competition reduce so we'll that other teams no longer become much problem for them except for those around the top four.

Ajax's may likely secure a spot at the UCL too because they are very close to been amongst the top four but will need consistency to further stay there because they looked inconsistent at the beginning of the season but their improvement currently is really one that can get them the top four position, talking about Feyenoord they can be likened to PSV in their consistency and they look more sure to finish top four than twente, Feyenoord is 10 points behind PSV and four points ahead of twente, the chance for twente can be firm if they don't drop points any further because any more point been lost will mean Alkmaar will displace them on the table.

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December 22, 2023, 05:50:11 PM
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Psv has been doing great in their recent matches, putting the record straight I don't see any stopper for Them this season, the seriousness i see in them is not going down soon, the Netherlands senior league don't look competitive this season, I said so because psv has been seen defeating almost all the big team's without being stopped, the league doesn't interest me much again because the usual league contender which is ajax Amsterdam has been on lapses for a while, i don't  think anything is changing soon, with what is happening the chances for psv to lift the trophy this season is on the high side and the deserve it.

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December 22, 2023, 09:50:38 PM
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Yesterday was really a feast of football.We saw a lot of goals in the matches and frankly they were all exciting.Twente failed to defeat Rotterdam who were down to 10 men. In the 45th minute Rotterdam, who were down to 10 men, managed to hold on to the match with goals from penalties in the second half.Twente could have even won the match if they hadn't managed to score in the last minute.
Feyenoord managed to beat their opponent Heracles with 4 goals away from home.We cannot say that the opponent was not very effective.Despite being away, Feyenoord dominated the match and won a comfortable victory.
Ajax started to recover slowly.Ajax hosted PEC Zwolle at home.Ajax managed to go 2-0 ahead with Brobbey's goals and left the match with a draw.They had a chance to win the match but they could not take advantage of it.It would have been better for them if they had won this match.Losing points in these matches is a bad result for them if they want to finish in the top 3.
In the most important match of the day, PSV, the favorite candidate of the championship, almost showered AZ Alkmaar with goals.PSV, who did not even give the opponent the opportunity to play, managed to win the match with a very beautiful football.PSV, who increased the difference to 3 in 16 minutes, did not give the opponent any opportunity.We can easily say that AZ Alkmaar played as if they were playing away throughout the match.
The Eredivise is one league that's very much underrated but they've got enough quality up their sleeves. Yesterday there were a number of goals trooping in. The league is growing, they've got key teams too that are making wave in the European races too. PSV and Ajax are perfect growth examples. They're outshining in their endeavors.

 Even though it's quite obvious that there's a little bit difficulty in sustaining their race in the European umbrella but they've got to do what they've got to do. There are other teams in the league that are good. The truth is the league should be watched closely as there's higher chance probability of it getting more tough as seasons go by.
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December 22, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
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Psv has been doing great in their recent matches, putting the record straight I don't see any stopper for Them this season, the seriousness i see in them is not going down soon, the Netherlands senior league don't look competitive this season, I said so because psv has been seen defeating almost all the big team's without being stopped, the league doesn't interest me much again because the usual league contender which is ajax Amsterdam has been on lapses for a while, i don't  think anything is changing soon, with what is happening the chances for psv to lift the trophy this season is on the high side and the deserve it.
PSV is currently making history in the Eredivisie. They won 16 in 16 matches and destroyed the league. They are by far the biggest favorites right now. They can declare an early championship in the league, as Napoli did last year. Ajax is very bad. They drew 2-2 with Zwolle in the last match. This year is a big problem for them. They are currently competing for European cups, but they are currently behind in that ranking.


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December 23, 2023, 10:09:14 AM
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PSV is currently making history in the Eredivisie. They won 16 in 16 matches and destroyed the league. They are by far the biggest favorites right now. They can declare an early championship in the league, as Napoli did last year. Ajax is very bad. They drew 2-2 with Zwolle in the last match. This year is a big problem for them. They are currently competing for European cups, but they are currently behind in that ranking.

Currently Ajax is in third place in the UEFA European League standings. They have certainly not qualified for the next round. This is a bad result for Ajax but it could be an advantage if they want to continue their positive trend in the league and improve their ranking. Currently Ajax is in fifth place in the standings and has quite a big difference in points with the teams above it. Many say they will be able to finish in third place but if you look at the positive results they have had in the last five matches then I think it will be very possible.

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December 23, 2023, 01:39:08 PM
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Agreed as they are having 16 matches and already scored 56 goals with concede only 6 which is giving all review how things are going for them into league in this season they are complete package for staying at the top of the league table and having one of the best end for them difference of goals is 50 with second spotted Feyenoord having 38 which is also not bad but after just 16 matches statics like these are completely showing aggressive and tough they are.

They have knock out match against Borussia Dortmund which is currently struggling in Bundesliga and surely this could be not easy game for them hopefully we will have good performance from the PSV, and they will take advantage of this poor run and have chance to jump into last 8 which could be also amazing for them and their league.
PSV are really cruising to victory in their league and you could tell from the way they’ve remained unbeaten in the league and not just that maintained a good goal difference after going half of the season. You can tell from the way they play in the UCL and know that yes they’re a team with quite a good quality this season. The young squad’s composure puts them among one of the many wonders of Europe this season.

 Against Feyenoord they’ve tried to maintain a good gap both in points and goal difference and that sees them already cruising to taking the league title home this season, now they face Dortmund in the Round of 16 of the UCL and I have high hopes they’ll be able to knock out struggling Dortmund and cruise to the UCL last 8, but Dortmund would be a very tough nut to crack, especially when they stand a chance of moving into the next stage.
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December 23, 2023, 05:24:39 PM
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Man i completely forgot Eredivisie alongside Bundesliga stop the league and make a winter break long, so sad.

Well for ajax i think is a good rest to calm down and start to rebuild (again) the team, and like i mention in my lat post here, today Manchester United lose again, so Ten Hag can be displaced more sooner than later.

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December 23, 2023, 10:51:06 PM
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Man i completely forgot Eredivisie alongside Bundesliga stop the league and make a winter break long, so sad.

Well for ajax i think is a good rest to calm down and start to rebuild (again) the team, and like i mention in my lat post here, today Manchester United lose again, so Ten Hag can be displaced more sooner than later.
Ajax is surely on good recovery and this is good break for them which will help them for having better strategy for the next half of this season with now Conference league is also good chance for them to bring some confidence as well with most chances I have feeling they will be touch top four in coming weeks with AZ Alkmaar and Twente both are losing points which will help them.
Erik ten Hag is now surely most favorite candidate for losing his job from coaching in English Premier League because his performance is unpredictable and things are already from bad to worse which is not acceptable for the fans and management as well I was expecting after the match of Liverpool, but draw give him one more chance but now defeat against West Ham is surely brought some pressure which will ended with the defeat against Aston Villa.

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Ajax is surely on good recovery and this is good break for them which will help them for having better strategy for the next half of this season with now Conference league is also good chance for them to bring some confidence as well with most chances I have feeling they will be touch top four in coming weeks with AZ Alkmaar and Twente both are losing points which will help them.

Ajax is still 8 points behind Az Alkmaar in fourth place. This means they have to win some games and AZ Alkmaar lose three games so that Ajax can collect 9 points more than Az Alkmaar. I don't know how the Eredivise will be in a full season but I think it is quite a difficult mission if Az Alkmaar or Twente are able to play well enough. I am very excited to watch the next game in the Eredivise and look forward to Ajax at the end of this season.

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Ajax is surely on good recovery and this is good break for them which will help them for having better strategy for the next half of this season with now Conference league is also good chance for them to bring some confidence as well with most chances I have feeling they will be touch top four in coming weeks with AZ Alkmaar and Twente both are losing points which will help them.

Ajax is still 8 points behind Az Alkmaar in fourth place. This means they have to win some games and AZ Alkmaar lose three games so that Ajax can collect 9 points more than Az Alkmaar. I don't know how the Eredivise will be in a full season but I think it is quite a difficult mission if Az Alkmaar or Twente are able to play well enough. I am very excited to watch the next game in the Eredivise and look forward to Ajax at the end of this season.
The process that Ajax has gone through is very cool this season and their coach is also very strong, he can raise the mentality of the players to rise from the bottom of the standings and are now in fifth place in the standings, of course the target of entering the UCL league next season is somewhat impossible so their target is the most realistic it entered the European league, because securing tickets to the European competition was already a good achievement considering the destruction of the team's performance this season.

With a difference of 8 points from Az Alkmaar, I think Ajax, with its current development, still has hope of overtaking Az Alkmaar, because I'm not sure Alkmaar will be consistent, they will definitely make some mistakes in big matches like the previous match against PSV. they lost badly 4-0.

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December 24, 2023, 02:48:19 PM
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The process that Ajax has gone through is very cool this season and their coach is also very strong, he can raise the mentality of the players to rise from the bottom of the standings and are now in fifth place in the standings, of course the target of entering the UCL league next season is somewhat impossible so their target is the most realistic it entered the European league, because securing tickets to the European competition was already a good achievement considering the destruction of the team's performance this season.

With a difference of 8 points from Az Alkmaar, I think Ajax, with its current development, still has hope of overtaking Az Alkmaar, because I'm not sure Alkmaar will be consistent, they will definitely make some mistakes in big matches like the previous match against PSV. they lost badly 4-0.
Ajax who started the season very poorly with conceding so many goals and not having much win ratios, But over the past 2 months we can see how this team has risen so well from below average to sitting in 5th position which shows how much work this coach has put in this team, he really tried in bringing the best out of his boys and now they're performing as expected and I believe they'll maintain their good form and finish in a better spot on the standings, even though they don't come close to winning the tournament.

 Yes, the UCL spot might be out of reach but they’re trying so hard to get an European qualification and that’s achievable especially with their wide range of experience , AZ Alkmaar won’t be a match to this Ajax as they’ll sure slip and Ajax could get serious and pick their spot.
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The process that Ajax has gone through is very cool this season and their coach is also very strong, he can raise the mentality of the players to rise from the bottom of the standings and are now in fifth place in the standings, of course the target of entering the UCL league next season is somewhat impossible so their target is the most realistic it entered the European league, because securing tickets to the European competition was already a good achievement considering the destruction of the team's performance this season.

With a difference of 8 points from Az Alkmaar, I think Ajax, with its current development, still has hope of overtaking Az Alkmaar, because I'm not sure Alkmaar will be consistent, they will definitely make some mistakes in big matches like the previous match against PSV. they lost badly 4-0.
Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work. They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard.

 Every team won't want to loose their kept men and every player that's be free are the ones that weren't so solid for the team. It's quite expensive to get for a team a high valued player no doubt and Ajax management may not likely be up to the task and it's going to be unsafe to settle for a less standard player. Their winning consistency is good but they just have to find a way to stop the wins from occuring through a narrow means. The coach is good at what he does but he has to improve himself and the team too, once all the necessary characteristics needed are in place, then it'll be an easy ride for Ajax.
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December 25, 2023, 11:10:23 PM
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Ajax who started the season very poorly with conceding so many goals and not having much win ratios, But over the past 2 months we can see how this team has risen so well from below average to sitting in 5th position which shows how much work this coach has put in this team, he really tried in bringing the best out of his boys and now they're performing as expected and I believe they'll maintain their good form and finish in a better spot on the standings, even though they don't come close to winning the tournament.

 Yes, the UCL spot might be out of reach but they’re trying so hard to get an European qualification and that’s achievable especially with their wide range of experience , AZ Alkmaar won’t be a match to this Ajax as they’ll sure slip and Ajax could get serious and pick their spot.

I was perplexed when I saw how this heavy weight from the Eredivise was doing during the early season. But now the season is over for them in terms of the title and the best they can try is to find their spot somewhere in the top four. But this phase of weakness demonstrates that it will be brutally punished by a team like PSV Eindhoven. They have really made clear from day 1 that such a catastrophic failure will end the season early for Ajax Amsterdam in respect of the title race. 23 points and 18 games to go is impossible to make up for. I didn't see it often that the season in a domestic league essentially had its title winner after 16 games. Tongue

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December 26, 2023, 02:59:40 AM
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Ajax is surely on good recovery and this is good break for them which will help them for having better strategy for the next half of this season with now Conference league is also good chance for them to bring some confidence as well with most chances I have feeling they will be touch top four in coming weeks with AZ Alkmaar and Twente both are losing points which will help them.
Some of these teams have no balance, win today and lose tomorrow, just unpredictable to start scouting on these clubs. Ajax that was close to the relegation zone in the early starts of the season, now tell me, how did they manage to escape and grab significant positions on the table? I called it recovery and consistency because that's the only way to keep oneself at the top this season. Ajax started on the wrong foot and now they're recovery gradually and everything will become normal for the club once they're able to bounce back to winning ways.

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December 26, 2023, 06:21:53 AM
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Ajax is surely on good recovery and this is good break for them which will help them for having better strategy for the next half of this season with now Conference league is also good chance for them to bring some confidence as well with most chances I have feeling they will be touch top four in coming weeks with AZ Alkmaar and Twente both are losing points which will help them.
Some of these teams have no balance, win today and lose tomorrow, just unpredictable to start scouting on these clubs. Ajax that was close to the relegation zone in the early starts of the season, now tell me, how did they manage to escape and grab significant positions on the table? I called it recovery and consistency because that's the only way to keep oneself at the top this season. Ajax started on the wrong foot and now they're recovery gradually and everything will become normal for the club once they're able to bounce back to winning ways.
This is a notable problem here in Eredivisie as we have just three top teams those can go consistently for long run, all others having inconsistency and poor quality as well which hurt them badly in long run with this mostly these teams allow opponents to clear their ways for going through.

Ajax as doing right now most chances they will be able to jump at the third spot of the league table and others have to suffer for their inconsistency and lack of quality which need at the top level Ajax having the worst start but now as we are heading for the second half things are coming back normal and their performance is also back their level which will help them for going through even now it's not time to Challenge PSV and Feyenoord, but now they can still have fair chance for staying at the top level.

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December 26, 2023, 07:49:42 AM
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Ajax as doing right now most chances they will be able to jump at the third spot of the league table and others have to suffer for their inconsistency and lack of quality which need at the top level Ajax having the worst start but now as we are heading for the second half things are coming back normal and their performance is also back their level which will help them for going through even now it's not time to Challenge PSV and Feyenoord, but now they can still have fair chance for staying at the top level.

Even so, Twente and Alkmaar currently have points that are still far enough away for Ajax to catch up. AZ Alkmaar with 33 points and Ajax with 25 points. This means they are still 8 points different from fourth place. Of course it is true as you said that chasing 8 points is not difficult for Ajax if they perform like the previous few matches. However, we also hope that Twente and Az Alkmaar will appear inconsistent in the next few matches.

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This is a notable problem here in Eredivisie as we have just three top teams those can go consistently for long run, all others having inconsistency and poor quality as well which hurt them badly in long run with this mostly these teams allow opponents to clear their ways for going through.

Ajax as doing right now most chances they will be able to jump at the third spot of the league table and others have to suffer for their inconsistency and lack of quality which need at the top level Ajax having the worst start but now as we are heading for the second half things are coming back normal and their performance is also back their level which will help them for going through even now it's not time to Challenge PSV and Feyenoord, but now they can still have fair chance for staying at the top level.
The current situation in the dutch league is one that the Bundesliga was in seasons before now that Leverkusen have come into light. It's definitely pretty much boring to know that a league will always wrap up with thesame set of teams being at the top spot. It just doesn't bring the fun to it. The league is one that really can't be compared to other leagues in that regard.

 Although the changes may not happen at a great level as in the EPL, Serie A and Bundesliga but at least, let there be a little switch. The league is pretty much less competitive. There are some already predictable fixtures which sure doesn't work for other leagues. The tougher a league gets to be, the more the fans attention are drawn to their style of play too. They've just got to step up, especially the rising teams, it's in their hands to make the difference we seek.
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December 26, 2023, 06:14:09 PM
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Ajax as doing right now most chances they will be able to jump at the third spot of the league table and others have to suffer for their inconsistency and lack of quality which need at the top level Ajax having the worst start but now as we are heading for the second half things are coming back normal and their performance is also back their level which will help them for going through even now it's not time to Challenge PSV and Feyenoord, but now they can still have fair chance for staying at the top level.
Even so, Twente and Alkmaar currently have points that are still far enough away for Ajax to catch up. AZ Alkmaar with 33 points and Ajax with 25 points. This means they are still 8 points different from fourth place. Of course it is true as you said that chasing 8 points is not difficult for Ajax if they perform like the previous few matches. However, we also hope that Twente and Az Alkmaar will appear inconsistent in the next few matches.
After the break in 17th round we are going to have few interesting matches now, with Twente is going to host AZ Alkmaar and G A Eagles are going to host Ajax which are surely important matches for the staying at the top spots as well because third and fourth spots teams surely going to lose points and in case of win Ajax is going to have some cut in deficit which will keep their hopes alive for jumping, and we also know history of these medicor teams mostly they lost points near the end of the season which give good benefit to the top ranks teams.

AZ Alkmaar is having good time, but their squad is not strong enough like Ajax which keep them at this level, and they will be gone down and have to stay at fifth spot with things can take change in coming weeks.

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December 26, 2023, 06:47:08 PM
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Ajax who started the season very poorly with conceding so many goals and not having much win ratios, But over the past 2 months we can see how this team has risen so well from below average to sitting in 5th position which shows how much work this coach has put in this team, he really tried in bringing the best out of his boys and now they're performing as expected and I believe they'll maintain their good form and finish in a better spot on the standings, even though they don't come close to winning the tournament.

 Yes, the UCL spot might be out of reach but they’re trying so hard to get an European qualification and that’s achievable especially with their wide range of experience , AZ Alkmaar won’t be a match to this Ajax as they’ll sure slip and Ajax could get serious and pick their spot.
Ajax got knock-out from the European league, not because they don't have the experience, is due to their poor performance this season. Ajax is the perfect illustration for all hope is not lost because even in their worst form, they didn't give up and they kept pressuring for good results and they finally achieved what they have been intending to strive. They're out of the relegation zone and bounce back to streak winnings, appreciation to the players who suffered in poor form but they're building back to strengthened the club. We know how how popular Ajax have become over the years and this year is definitely not an option.


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