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April 18, 2021, 05:38:42 PM
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Important Note : If you're jobless don't get into gambling, I'm an example. I don't have a job, and that's the reason I wasn't able to keep me deviated from gambling. Hope this helps someone.

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Not Unless you will Rob a Bank or Scam other people there is no way that a Jobless can still gamble . So this advise is clearly not the one we are talking here.

I was a Active or better called Addicted gambler in the past but i never did gamble whenever i have no Job or at least stopped from my Work.
You might have some money aside and think of gambling as an investment, a way to double/triple your money. OP suggests to not gamble if you have no other income, because if you lose, you are basically screwed and left with nothing.

Back to the subject, I've been through quite a few psychological/mental issues myself to know that none of them are worth to end your life, seek help from a professional and stay away from gambling, it's guaranteed to make you lose. I've seen it myself, thus I only gamble small amounts that I've mostly deposited from signature campaigns or old wallets which had a few bits in them.

Good luck and be safe, if you need someone to talk to, you could msg me. Sounds cheesy but I'd listen.

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April 18, 2021, 05:54:02 PM
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Important Note : If you're jobless don't get into gambling, I'm an example. I don't have a job, and that's the reason I wasn't able to keep me deviated from gambling. Hope this helps someone.
No one should really put himself into gambling if he doesn't have his own source. That's the part that you cannot control yourself once you have a goal that you think it's already within your reach but didn't happen at all.

It is why that there will be those suggestions that say that it's best to gamble with your own money, not through loans. If you can't gamble with your own money, choose to obstinate your craving to gamble.

Choose to quit when you don't have anything in your wallet, never to lend money just to continue playing it will pull you down the more you try to push further the more deeper you'll suffer.
limiting yourself to use your spare money and not to exceed with that is very important, there are more losing to comes up so better not to engage.

Protecting your savings always start for you being responsible, if possible not to learned it the hardway but instead deal with it once you enter any gambling activities that you participate.

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April 18, 2021, 06:17:32 PM
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I read your thread and I read your notes. But unfortunately, I was also unemployed in the past and then made gambling a source of income and that's fine because I don't owe money to gamble. But even though sometimes I owe money to gamble, fortunately I always return it sooner so that it exceeds the refund and that is a fortune for me. But yes, one of the most important things is not to go into debt to gamble as that will only make you more stressed. In addition, the most important thing for the gambler to be responsible is, when you lose you don't involve or take your anger out on close people and other valuables.

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April 18, 2021, 08:11:17 PM
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I read your thread and I read your notes. But unfortunately, I was also unemployed in the past and then made gambling a source of income and that's fine because I don't owe money to gamble. But even though sometimes I owe money to gamble, fortunately I always return it sooner so that it exceeds the refund and that is a fortune for me. But yes, one of the most important things is not to go into debt to gamble as that will only make you more stressed. In addition, the most important thing for the gambler to be responsible is, when you lose you don't involve or take your anger out on close people and other valuables.
You should also think that you don't have to borrow money when you're about to gamble. You're fortunate enough that you didn't lose those borrowed money and have the same problem as OP. You shouldn't ask even for sometimes because you'll never know how lucky or not you are by that time. But I agree, when someone has lost a lot, you're just going to blame yourself and you don't point out to anyone why you've lost. You're the one that gambled and played with that money so there's no involvement from anyone.

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April 18, 2021, 08:47:00 PM
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I read your thread and I read your notes. But unfortunately, I was also unemployed in the past and then made gambling a source of income and that's fine because I don't owe money to gamble. But even though sometimes I owe money to gamble, fortunately I always return it sooner so that it exceeds the refund and that is a fortune for me. But yes, one of the most important things is not to go into debt to gamble as that will only make you more stressed. In addition, the most important thing for the gambler to be responsible is, when you lose you don't involve or take your anger out on close people and other valuables.

That's so hard to consider gambling as a source of income if you are unemployed, I mean the risk is really high unless you are really good in gambling. I can't do that honestly, I'm not good enough in gambling and though I gamble, I make sure I have a stable source of income like a job or a business, but lucky for you that you were able to make money from it.

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April 18, 2021, 08:56:16 PM
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I read your thread and I read your notes. But unfortunately, I was also unemployed in the past and then made gambling a source of income and that's fine because I don't owe money to gamble. But even though sometimes I owe money to gamble, fortunately I always return it sooner so that it exceeds the refund and that is a fortune for me. But yes, one of the most important things is not to go into debt to gamble as that will only make you more stressed. In addition, the most important thing for the gambler to be responsible is, when you lose you don't involve or take your anger out on close people and other valuables.
That's so hard to consider gambling as a source of income if you are unemployed, I mean the risk is really high unless you are really good in gambling. I can't do that honestly, I'm not good enough in gambling and though I gamble, I make sure I have a stable source of income like a job or a business, but lucky for you that you were able to make money from it.

The risk is high why many gamblers who are relying from their loan to gamble, are mostly deep in their debts. This is where more problems arise. Stress on how to get their money back, stress on how to win so they can pay for their debts. Not only mental stress but also financial stress. And some will do unnecessary things like robbing someone or worst killing someone. So stay away if you feel you are heading to that direction. If you can't manage your gambling habits, better get out while you can still control yourself.
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April 18, 2021, 09:37:32 PM
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I was insisted by different people several times. Gambling isn't meant to make money. It is pure business, have fun and never be a victim of it. Now I'm a victim of it. In my village when people play cards I used to advice them, none know I'm into gambling. What they play for is not more than $5, and now I find guilty of being worse than them.

What I've lost is big. Last one month have made a big change in my life. I don't know how things gonna change and myself gonna manage. I would like to brief the last 31 days of my life and gambling. Someone could read and won't get into risk of life.

I have debt of $35000. Myself saved $2500 in BTC on an exchange with the plan of trading. My mind wavered it takes time to make money out of trading. Myself deposited into a gambling platform. Started to gamble. Within few minutes it all got emptied. Then on my mind didn't work, everytime it thinks of the lost money and the way to recover it. Borrowed another $2000 from my friend and this too got washed out.



Important Note : If you're jobless don't get into gambling, I'm an example. I don't have a job, and that's the reason I wasn't able to keep me deviated from gambling. Hope this helps someone.

Thank You

I am shocked at the amount of money that you've lost from gambling and the amount of money that you loaned just to gamble, I could never do just a thing only compulsive gambler will do that, and it's too risky if you are taking a loan just to gamble that means you are totally out of control and do not have a will to control your gambling, instead it's taking over you.

Even if you are jobless but if you do not have control of how you gamble you will still find a way to get money and play, that's the risk of a compulsive gambler.

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April 18, 2021, 09:38:46 PM
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If you can't manage your gambling habits, better get out while you can still control yourself.

It's okay if you have this gambling habit if you are not addicted, gambling all the time or most the time does not really mean losing money, some people are making money in gambling or making it as a source of income, so it's not a big deal for them, instead it's an opportunity.

Being responsible does not mean winning only, but more on the losing side because it will make us minimize the risk but losing below what we can afford to loss or just at the level.

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I have similar experience on the past but not as worse as op. I also had debt due to gambling because I want to recover my losses. Though I have job that time, but the problem is I tend to spend it on gambling without control resulting to a fight between me and my family.

Well, if you know that you have no self control already when you gamble then do everything to refrain yourself. Seek a professional help to get rid of this bad habit or open up with your family because they're the ones who will understand and help you to overcome it. Remember, if you have no discipline and self control much better not to gamble anymore.

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April 19, 2021, 10:24:21 AM
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I have similar experience on the past but not as worse as op. I also had debt due to gambling because I want to recover my losses. Though I have job that time, but the problem is I tend to spend it on gambling without control resulting to a fight between me and my family.

Well, if you know that you have no self control already when you gamble then do everything to refrain yourself. Seek a professional help to get rid of this bad habit or open up with your family because they're the ones who will understand and help you to overcome it. Remember, if you have no discipline and self control much better not to gamble anymore.
Did you paid the debt in the end because if yes then congratulations because people who pay back their debts through gambling has a low chance of success because gambling is a way to lose more money so it is a deadlock that only a few can get out.

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April 19, 2021, 11:06:26 AM
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That is why if someone gambles using borrowed money, of course they will not concentrate on playing because they think of two things between being able to win the game to get a profit from it and thinking that they should be able to return the money.  they will play greedily when they have few victories and will never be satisfied.  Especially if someone does not have a job and makes gambling a source of income to be able to earn money, of course that is a very wrong mindset, because most people gamble just to find fun and try their luck

Gambling can indeed promise some people luck
but with the wrong mindset can certainly make things worse.

I find it quite alarming to use borrowed money for gambling. The only way that should be done would be if we can be a 100% certain of winning. If that's not the case than the risks of losing the money is just too high for me. If the loan is small it could work but if we have no real way to repay the loan than we are screwed. Losing borrowed money means we lost the money twice. First we lost all our gambling money and secondly we still have to repay the loan. This could hurt us for years and years to come.
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April 19, 2021, 11:19:02 AM
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I have similar experience on the past but not as worse as op. I also had debt due to gambling because I want to recover my losses. Though I have job that time, but the problem is I tend to spend it on gambling without control resulting to a fight between me and my family.

Well, if you know that you have no self control already when you gamble then do everything to refrain yourself. Seek a professional help to get rid of this bad habit or open up with your family because they're the ones who will understand and help you to overcome it. Remember, if you have no discipline and self control much better not to gamble anymore.
Did you paid the debt in the end because if yes then congratulations because people who pay back their debts through gambling has a low chance of success because gambling is a way to lose more money so it is a deadlock that only a few can get out.
If you rely on the outcome of your gambling journey to pay your debt, that is wrong, but if you have a job and you are earning, then you can still pay your debt even if you are losing in gambling, that's the best thing to do. Debt should be paid, no matter how small it is, and of course, as long as you don't run from it, your lender would understand and both of you will make a settlement where you are both comfortable.

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April 19, 2021, 11:37:06 AM
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I have similar experience on the past but not as worse as op. I also had debt due to gambling because I want to recover my losses. Though I have job that time, but the problem is I tend to spend it on gambling without control resulting to a fight between me and my family.

Well, if you know that you have no self control already when you gamble then do everything to refrain yourself. Seek a professional help to get rid of this bad habit or open up with your family because they're the ones who will understand and help you to overcome it. Remember, if you have no discipline and self control much better not to gamble anymore.
Did you paid the debt in the end because if yes then congratulations because people who pay back their debts through gambling has a low chance of success because gambling is a way to lose more money so it is a deadlock that only a few can get out.
I don't pay respect to people that is intentionally Living with Debt and gambling because both are an act of desperation and not really a right manner to live best.
This is the easiest way to fucked up your life or become miserable, get a loan and gamble it, even if you are good at gambling there is no way you can make money out of it, gambling is a way to make some fun not an investment where you can make a profit while doing it, you are talking of big money here which is already considered a fortune for many people from third world country like mine, I'll definitely not going to waste my money from gambling.
Why not commit suicide than living in hell like this.

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April 19, 2021, 11:50:18 AM
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That is why if someone gambles using borrowed money, of course they will not concentrate on playing because they think of two things between being able to win the game to get a profit from it and thinking that they should be able to return the money.  they will play greedily when they have few victories and will never be satisfied.  Especially if someone does not have a job and makes gambling a source of income to be able to earn money, of course that is a very wrong mindset, because most people gamble just to find fun and try their luck

Gambling can indeed promise some people luck
but with the wrong mindset can certainly make things worse.

I find it quite alarming to use borrowed money for gambling. The only way that should be done would be if we can be a 100% certain of winning. If that's not the case than the risks of losing the money is just too high for me. If the loan is small it could work but if we have no real way to repay the loan than we are screwed. Losing borrowed money means we lost the money twice. First we lost all our gambling money and secondly we still have to repay the loan. This could hurt us for years and years to come.

That is the reason why you shouldn't take a long just to fulfill your desire like to play gambling and this can also be applicable in investment, don't take a loan upon your investment regardless of the percentage of winning. First of all, you never know what's gonna happen even if the odds of winning are higher than the loss you should not still take the risk because there's a chance you might lose it and that would only double up your debt. If you will take a loan just for investment perhaps I might consider it but for gambling, no it won't happen. You'll just be putting yourself in a worse position.



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April 19, 2021, 12:11:18 PM
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I have similar experience on the past but not as worse as op. I also had debt due to gambling because I want to recover my losses. Though I have job that time, but the problem is I tend to spend it on gambling without control resulting to a fight between me and my family.

Well, if you know that you have no self control already when you gamble then do everything to refrain yourself. Seek a professional help to get rid of this bad habit or open up with your family because they're the ones who will understand and help you to overcome it. Remember, if you have no discipline and self control much better not to gamble anymore.
Did you paid the debt in the end because if yes then congratulations because people who pay back their debts through gambling has a low chance of success because gambling is a way to lose more money so it is a deadlock that only a few can get out.
If you rely on the outcome of your gambling journey to pay your debt, that is wrong, but if you have a job and you are earning, then you can still pay your debt even if you are losing in gambling, that's the best thing to do. Debt should be paid, no matter how small it is, and of course, as long as you don't run from it, your lender would understand and both of you will make a settlement where you are both comfortable.

So foolish idea to think that it can possibly happen since maybe he do that for a while but I really believe that this is not sustainable since its still a gambling which is the chance to win is not so big. Best for people thinking that way is to find job as you said since from this he can earn passive income which can support him to pay his debts.

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April 19, 2021, 12:29:15 PM
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Important Note : If you're jobless don't get into gambling, I'm an example. I don't have a job, and that's the reason I wasn't able to keep me deviated from gambling. Hope this helps someone.
No one should really put himself into gambling if he doesn't have his own source. That's the part that you cannot control yourself once you have a goal that you think it's already within your reach but didn't happen at all.

It is why that there will be those suggestions that say that it's best to gamble with your own money, not through loans. If you can't gamble with your own money, choose to obstinate your craving to gamble.

Choose to quit when you don't have anything in your wallet, never to lend money just to continue playing it will pull you down the more you try to push further the more deeper you'll suffer.
limiting yourself to use your spare money and not to exceed with that is very important, there are more losing to comes up so better not to engage.

Protecting your savings always start for you being responsible, if possible not to learned it the hardway but instead deal with it once you enter any gambling activities that you participate.

That is the crucial part of every gambler, being torn on what to do, whether to quit or chase his losses no matter what. What drives them crazy is the false hope they are getting on the adrenaline they get on gambling, they thought they could win if they will continue the fight against the house until they get what they want.

Therefore a lot of gamblers became addicted first before they realized that they are in gambling addiction, too much gambling addiction. And the most crucial part is quitting, because you're losing your hope that you cannot change what you've done, that's why always take time before a gambler successfully best his addiction.
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April 19, 2021, 01:05:08 PM
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I have similar experience on the past but not as worse as op. I also had debt due to gambling because I want to recover my losses. Though I have job that time, but the problem is I tend to spend it on gambling without control resulting to a fight between me and my family.

Well, if you know that you have no self control already when you gamble then do everything to refrain yourself. Seek a professional help to get rid of this bad habit or open up with your family because they're the ones who will understand and help you to overcome it. Remember, if you have no discipline and self control much better not to gamble anymore.
Did you paid the debt in the end because if yes then congratulations because people who pay back their debts through gambling has a low chance of success because gambling is a way to lose more money so it is a deadlock that only a few can get out.
If you rely on the outcome of your gambling journey to pay your debt, that is wrong, but if you have a job and you are earning, then you can still pay your debt even if you are losing in gambling, that's the best thing to do. Debt should be paid, no matter how small it is, and of course, as long as you don't run from it, your lender would understand and both of you will make a settlement where you are both comfortable.

So foolish idea to think that it can possibly happen since maybe he do that for a while but I really believe that this is not sustainable since its still a gambling which is the chance to win is not so big. Best for people thinking that way is to find job as you said since from this he can earn passive income which can support him to pay his debts.
You would basically making the situation even more worst if you do really consider gambling as a solution into that kind of problem.Rather than solving the current problem
you do have it would rather even make the situation more worst which lots of addicted gamblers do experience such scenario this is why you should really be changing your
mindset in towards to that kind of perception.It will really be just be putting you into the trouble and gambling is just for entertainment but people do really
take it too far on where it comes to a point that they are risking everything that they do had.

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April 19, 2021, 08:46:51 PM
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No one should really put himself into gambling if he doesn't have his own source. That's the part that you cannot control yourself once you have a goal that you think it's already within your reach but didn't happen at all.

It is why that there will be those suggestions that say that it's best to gamble with your own money, not through loans. If you can't gamble with your own money, choose to obstinate your craving to gamble.

Choose to quit when you don't have anything in your wallet, never to lend money just to continue playing it will pull you down the more you try to push further the more deeper you'll suffer.
limiting yourself to use your spare money and not to exceed with that is very important, there are more losing to comes up so better not to engage.

Protecting your savings always start for you being responsible, if possible not to learned it the hardway but instead deal with it once you enter any gambling activities that you participate.
IMHO. It's irresponsible decision to gamble without your own money on your pocket and you're resorting to borrow it from other people. You don't deserve to gamble if that's your situation and better stop with your plans of continuing if it's not your money and bankroll.

Spare money or not as long as it's your money and you have a budget with your activity, that's responsible gambling. You don't have to put yourself added pressure by gambling with a borrowed money.

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April 19, 2021, 09:04:35 PM
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You don't have to put yourself added pressure by gambling with a borrowed money.

You're certainly correct, when you borrowed money to gamble, especially a big amount, you will always feel the pressure because in your mind is the words "what if"... what if you loss, how can you pay the loan? or, do you have to borrow again after a loss?.

I mean, you can't loss because you are just borrowing the money, and that alone would affect your decision making from the moment you choose what team to bet and how you manage your bankroll.

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April 19, 2021, 09:16:24 PM
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I have similar experience on the past but not as worse as op. I also had debt due to gambling because I want to recover my losses. Though I have job that time, but the problem is I tend to spend it on gambling without control resulting to a fight between me and my family.

Well, if you know that you have no self control already when you gamble then do everything to refrain yourself. Seek a professional help to get rid of this bad habit or open up with your family because they're the ones who will understand and help you to overcome it. Remember, if you have no discipline and self control much better not to gamble anymore.
Did you paid the debt in the end because if yes then congratulations because people who pay back their debts through gambling has a low chance of success because gambling is a way to lose more money so it is a deadlock that only a few can get out.
Fortunately yes, then after that I take a vacation from work and went to province wherein there's no internet connection and far from the city. A good place to relax and forget the mistakes that I did. Im aware gambling is not a way to earn money and should be treated as a way to entertain ourselves using a spare money.

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