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July 05, 2021, 02:00:54 PM
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Apart from that.. I think people gamble or not, depending on whether or not they are close to gambling, the more addicted they are.. the more determined they will be to gamble without thinking about it that actually we should be responsible gambler.
In general, indeed basically we have to be able to manage finances, make gambling as a free time filler without having to have an excessive sense of interest.



The key to being a responsible gambler we must limit the time to play gambling, that way we will more easily control ourselves so as not to play
excessive gambling. It is better to gamble only in spare time, so it can keep us from addiction. Initially, we were addicted to too much time
playing gambling, so without realizing it we were getting addicted to gambling. Managing finances and time is quite effective in keeping us from
gambling addiction.

Actually, that's no necessary if you have a lot of time to gamble, what you need to do is just be discipline all the time that you will always in control. That means you don't gamble above your limit, and you don't lose that control that would result in you chasing your losses. I experience that many times in my life as a gambler, so I know it's one of the biggest mistakes of the gamblers and the result is not always good.

I think it's possible to rule yourself determining LIMITS to what maximum point you can reach. A well planned gambling schedule, even appointing max and min losses can stop you on time to be a degenarated addicted or a total flat broke-bankrupt!

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July 05, 2021, 03:43:16 PM
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Apart from that.. I think people gamble or not, depending on whether or not they are close to gambling, the more addicted they are.. the more determined they will be to gamble without thinking about it that actually we should be responsible gambler.
Close or not, addicted or not, it isn't the matter IMO. Indeed that addicted gamblers would tend to play without even use their brain for various reasons such as greediness, chasing it losses or etc. However, the mindset of how to treat gambling is the most important point here, whether do you gamble just for entertainment purposes or as a source of income. If you treat gambling as a source of income then you have wrong from the beginning, it's better to quit gambling and focus on your job in real life.

In general, indeed basically we have to be able to manage finances, make gambling as a free time filler without having to have an excessive sense of interest.
Keep in mind that self-management also important, if you couldn't control your emotions high likely the house would take all of your funds
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July 05, 2021, 04:27:51 PM
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Apart from that.. I think people gamble or not, depending on whether or not they are close to gambling, the more addicted they are.. the more determined they will be to gamble without thinking about it that actually we should be responsible gambler.
In general, indeed basically we have to be able to manage finances, make gambling as a free time filler without having to have an excessive sense of interest.
Whether one is close to gambling or not,if you are an addict,there is nothing you can ever do to stop it.The only way an addict can stop gambling is self realization.If an individual realises that gambling has done more harm than good to him,he will change from it.but if he hasn't come to the point of self realization,then he will continue wallowing in the gambling habbit.Keeping your mind and yourself busy is another thing an individual must do to overcome the spirit of gambling.
It is difficult to overcome a gambling addict who can't stop it even if self-realization takes time and friends to support him from the advice that has been given if they return to gambling this is useless and they will be addicted again, so it must be very far away if want to totally not be an addict anyway for me gambling is not for good this is difficult many are irresponsible once they become addicts and still self realization has to be controlled.

Actually we have to be able to differentiate ourselves. I think this is very important for those who are addicts and plus gambling will never disappear from our memories as long as it is still near us.

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July 05, 2021, 05:38:40 PM
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Well i can feel that , because if you are a true responsible person then you will never consider playing or betting in gambling as this is risky and not really created for making fun but to lose our funds .
i don't believe those who claims that gambling is designed for Fun instead the other way around.
It is okay to consider betting as much as you can. But to consider someone is truly responsible is that he sets an amount that he afford to lose and will be careful with his bets that he won't be affectionate with whatever the outcome of that bet. Gambling is already known to be risky so someone who's getting in is aware of that and would probably made his decision that he's willing to take the risk.

I agree, somehow.

I mean, being responsible indeed means you will never consider betting or gambling as a way to earn money or to have a source of entertainment, but if you do have the wealth then why not. Being a responsible gambler means a lot, as you have mentioned, setting a certain amount of money that can afford to lose is one of it, one thing I'll add more is how you control yourself, on how you'll react in every winnings and losing, because that's important to prolong your funds.

You need to be constantly have the same decision on both (winning on losing) for example is betting the exact amount of money whether you win or lose.
If you have the wealth then you can do whatever you can and that's an easier situation for which I'm hoping to be in.  Cool
It's harder when you are on the winning side because you'll never know when to stop. But when you're on the losing side, you know when to stop and that is when you don't have anything left on your balance. But for wise and responsible gamblers, they know the right time to stop whenever they're winning.

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July 06, 2021, 07:59:54 AM
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The key to being a responsible gambler we must limit the time to play gambling, that way we will more easily control ourselves so as not to play
excessive gambling. It is better to gamble only in spare time, so it can keep us from addiction. Initially, we were addicted to too much time
playing gambling, so without realizing it we were getting addicted to gambling. Managing finances and time is quite effective in keeping us from
gambling addiction.

Actually, that's no necessary if you have a lot of time to gamble, what you need to do is just be discipline all the time that you will always in control. That means you don't gamble above your limit, and you don't lose that control that would result in you chasing your losses. I experience that many times in my life as a gambler, so I know it's one of the biggest mistakes of the gamblers and the result is not always good.

I think this is a dangerous approach because some people have a lot of free time, especially these days during lockdowns and stuff. But even without lockdowns everyone gets days off, and it doesn't mean spending 10+ hours on gambling during those days is OK. Same goes for money: if you received a huge bonus, don't think you can spend more on gambling now than before. Spend only what you can afford to lose on normal days on average.

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July 06, 2021, 08:08:02 AM
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Apart from that.. I think people gamble or not, depending on whether or not they are close to gambling, the more addicted they are.. the more determined they will be to gamble without thinking about it that actually we should be responsible gambler.
In general, indeed basically we have to be able to manage finances, make gambling as a free time filler without having to have an excessive sense of interest.
I firmly believe that if you are gambling then you aren't able to manage your finances because gambling is a waste of money and people who gamble knows that subconsciously but they are there for the entertainment and the wins are just a part of the game. The problem is that sometimes the obssession can be really strong that it's difficult to control it especially if you are being afflicted by the behavior of gambler's fallacy where you think that consecutive losses is going to give you a big win anytime soon.

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July 06, 2021, 09:35:59 AM
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Apart from that.. I think people gamble or not, depending on whether or not they are close to gambling, the more addicted they are.. the more determined they will be to gamble without thinking about it that actually we should be responsible gambler.
In general, indeed basically we have to be able to manage finances, make gambling as a free time filler without having to have an excessive sense of interest.
The key to being a responsible gambler we must limit the time to play gambling, that way we will more easily control ourselves so as not to play
excessive gambling. It is better to gamble only in spare time, so it can keep us from addiction. Initially, we were addicted to too much time
playing gambling, so without realizing it we were getting addicted to gambling. Managing finances and time is quite effective in keeping us from
gambling addiction.
Actually, that's no necessary if you have a lot of time to gamble, what you need to do is just be discipline all the time that you will always in control. That means you don't gamble above your limit, and you don't lose that control that would result in you chasing your losses. I experience that many times in my life as a gambler, so I know it's one of the biggest mistakes of the gamblers and the result is not always good.

Saying it is easy, we must be disciplined to control our emotions so as not to gamble excessively. The fact is that I always lose control several times
when I lose, because sometimes we do not realize that humans are difficult to accept defeat. It may take a long time for us to really control our
emotions when gambling, but in the near future I prefer to limit the time to play gambling. Because for me it is more effective to avoid me
from gambling addiction.

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July 06, 2021, 11:39:39 AM
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Sorry for your story man, gambling is not a guaranteed profitable activity, it is only an entertainment area !! I advise you to stay away from gambling activities and try to find work. Make a plan for your life again. Don't think about getting more loans, but try to count on yourself and work hard.
That's true it is really hard to earn money from gambling, a lot of people says that it has a 50% win rate percentage but for me you can only have 10% win rate, I never earn money from gambling so I have already done with it, gambling is only an entertainment purpose so the best thing for you to do is to focus on doing other things to make you money and stop relying your earnings in gambling because you will end up empty on it.
Many people realize that gambling is not a place to make money because they already lose their money to playing gambling. The chance for every people to lose will be different but losing the money will be the same. It is better to use the money from the loan to create a business because you will have a chance to make money from that but you need to pay the borrows money. Being a responsible gambler needs more effort and I am sure that we can do that, although it is not easy to start.

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July 06, 2021, 11:55:20 AM
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Sorry for your story man, gambling is not a guaranteed profitable activity, it is only an entertainment area !! I advise you to stay away from gambling activities and try to find work. Make a plan for your life again. Don't think about getting more loans, but try to count on yourself and work hard.
That's true it is really hard to earn money from gambling, a lot of people says that it has a 50% win rate percentage but for me you can only have 10% win rate, I never earn money from gambling so I have already done with it, gambling is only an entertainment purpose so the best thing for you to do is to focus on doing other things to make you money and stop relying your earnings in gambling because you will end up empty on it.
Many people realize that gambling is not a place to make money because they already lose their money to playing gambling. The chance for every people to lose will be different but losing the money will be the same. It is better to use the money from the loan to create a business because you will have a chance to make money from that but you need to pay the borrows money. Being a responsible gambler needs more effort and I am sure that we can do that, although it is not easy to start.

Some just learned the hard way, while some are really responsible enough  to understand the risk in gambling, they also understand their real chance of winning so they will not try to be ambitious to consider gambling as a source of income, instead they'll consider it as a way to entertain themselves.

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July 06, 2021, 02:42:35 PM
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Sorry for your story man, gambling is not a guaranteed profitable activity, it is only an entertainment area !! I advise you to stay away from gambling activities and try to find work. Make a plan for your life again. Don't think about getting more loans, but try to count on yourself and work hard.
That's true it is really hard to earn money from gambling, a lot of people says that it has a 50% win rate percentage but for me you can only have 10% win rate, I never earn money from gambling so I have already done with it, gambling is only an entertainment purpose so the best thing for you to do is to focus on doing other things to make you money and stop relying your earnings in gambling because you will end up empty on it.

It's more likely especially for those conservative gamblers, those who are responsible enough.

They are not greedy and they are content with 10% earnings than trying to win more and burned your money while playing around,
Either go for the entertainment part or try to earned a little and enjoy after playing, than trying to go deeper but lose everything.
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July 06, 2021, 05:48:42 PM
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Apart from that.. I think people gamble or not, depending on whether or not they are close to gambling, the more addicted they are.. the more determined they will be to gamble without thinking about it that actually we should be responsible gambler.
In general, indeed basically we have to be able to manage finances, make gambling as a free time filler without having to have an excessive sense of interest.

the trigger point for addiction starts in not accepting to lose money constantly, the person starts thinking that in the next game they will be able to recover and then lose in the next game and keep playing and then lose in the next game and time goes by and when they look back everything you have is addicted. but she doesn't realize she's addicted. and another big problem arises: how to make an addicted person recover and stop being addicted? this is the most complicated part, anyone who has lived with an addicted knows how painful this whole process is

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July 06, 2021, 09:00:01 PM
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Well i can feel that , because if you are a true responsible person then you will never consider playing or betting in gambling as this is risky and not really created for making fun but to lose our funds .
i don't believe those who claims that gambling is designed for Fun instead the other way around.
It is okay to consider betting as much as you can. But to consider someone is truly responsible is that he sets an amount that he afford to lose and will be careful with his bets that he won't be affectionate with whatever the outcome of that bet. Gambling is already known to be risky so someone who's getting in is aware of that and would probably made his decision that he's willing to take the risk.

Well, I do know a handful of "responsible" gamblers. They are those who have the extra cash to use and just go to casinos to simply enjoy the place and the amenities it can offfer. It's like for them the winnings are simply an extra thing they get for the trip. If a gambler gambles because he wants to get more money on it then for me that is a very risky reason for someone why he needs to gamble. Gambling should be entertaining and not a depressing experience.
This is the right attitude to have, it is way easier to be a responsible gambler if the expectations that we have out of gambling are just to get some fun out of it, when people put more expectations than this then this creates problems as they are unable to fulfill those expectations and then they want to force their way and get them anyway, and while this can happen for some time we know that over the long term this is not possible making them to lose amounts of money they did not planned to lose and making them irresponsible gamblers in the process.
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July 06, 2021, 09:52:07 PM
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Well i can feel that , because if you are a true responsible person then you will never consider playing or betting in gambling as this is risky and not really created for making fun but to lose our funds .
i don't believe those who claims that gambling is designed for Fun instead the other way around.
It is okay to consider betting as much as you can. But to consider someone is truly responsible is that he sets an amount that he afford to lose and will be careful with his bets that he won't be affectionate with whatever the outcome of that bet. Gambling is already known to be risky so someone who's getting in is aware of that and would probably made his decision that he's willing to take the risk.

Well, I do know a handful of "responsible" gamblers. They are those who have the extra cash to use and just go to casinos to simply enjoy the place and the amenities it can offfer. It's like for them the winnings are simply an extra thing they get for the trip. If a gambler gambles because he wants to get more money on it then for me that is a very risky reason for someone why he needs to gamble. Gambling should be entertaining and not a depressing experience.
This is the right attitude to have, it is way easier to be a responsible gambler if the expectations that we have out of gambling are just to get some fun out of it, when people put more expectations than this then this creates problems as they are unable to fulfill those expectations and then they want to force their way and get them anyway, and while this can happen for some time we know that over the long term this is not possible making them to lose amounts of money they did not planned to lose and making them irresponsible gamblers in the process.

Unfortunately, not many gamblers can afford such lifestyle, playing just for fun. Most of the time, gamblers want to play for the hope that they will go home with their winnings. So if you are the one that is included in the latter, better use your own extra funds and not borrowed money. So in case you lost, it is your own money and you don't owe anyone. Based from my experience, once you are already inside especially in a physical casino, the tendency is to use whatever you have. So just bring money that you can very well afford to lose.
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July 06, 2021, 10:42:02 PM
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Well i can feel that , because if you are a true responsible person then you will never consider playing or betting in gambling as this is risky and not really created for making fun but to lose our funds .
i don't believe those who claims that gambling is designed for Fun instead the other way around.
It is okay to consider betting as much as you can. But to consider someone is truly responsible is that he sets an amount that he afford to lose and will be careful with his bets that he won't be affectionate with whatever the outcome of that bet. Gambling is already known to be risky so someone who's getting in is aware of that and would probably made his decision that he's willing to take the risk.

Well, I do know a handful of "responsible" gamblers. They are those who have the extra cash to use and just go to casinos to simply enjoy the place and the amenities it can offfer. It's like for them the winnings are simply an extra thing they get for the trip. If a gambler gambles because he wants to get more money on it then for me that is a very risky reason for someone why he needs to gamble. Gambling should be entertaining and not a depressing experience.
This is the right attitude to have, it is way easier to be a responsible gambler if the expectations that we have out of gambling are just to get some fun out of it, when people put more expectations than this then this creates problems as they are unable to fulfill those expectations and then they want to force their way and get them anyway, and while this can happen for some time we know that over the long term this is not possible making them to lose amounts of money they did not planned to lose and making them irresponsible gamblers in the process.
Forcibly, a gambler that has lost a lot will recover as much as he can and that makes him out of control and will forget about being a responsible gambler. Just go with the extra cash you've got and that's the common suggestion that you only gamble with the amount that you can lose. Most gamblers know about that strategy and tip but still, when you're in the actual situation and you've got already a bad feeling because you keep on losing, that will change your thinking.

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July 06, 2021, 11:31:06 PM
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It is better to use the money from the loan to create a business because you will have a chance to make money from that
Basically, to loan money both for gambling and a business in real life isn't recommended. You are better to wait for having sufficient money to start a business. Especially for gambling, it is better to avoid. There is no guarantee of success, instead of high risk to lose big money. We don't need to force ourselves to gamble or start a business if we have no enough money yet.

Being a responsible gambler needs more effort and I am sure that we can do that, although it is not easy to start.
A strong intention is the first thing to have if we want to be responsible gamblers. Then, surely we need to try constantly although it requires big efforts. When we can discipline and commit to our goal to be responsible gamblers, we will be successful to change our habits to be more responsible in the end.


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July 07, 2021, 04:28:17 AM
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Apart from that.. I think people gamble or not, depending on whether or not they are close to gambling, the more addicted they are.. the more determined they will be to gamble without thinking about it that actually we should be responsible gambler.
In general, indeed basically we have to be able to manage finances, make gambling as a free time filler without having to have an excessive sense of interest.

the trigger point for addiction starts in not accepting to lose money constantly, the person starts thinking that in the next game they will be able to recover and then lose in the next game and keep playing and then lose in the next game and time goes by and when they look back everything you have is addicted. but she doesn't realize she's addicted. and another big problem arises: how to make an addicted person recover and stop being addicted? this is the most complicated part, anyone who has lived with an addicted knows how painful this whole process is
At first they had won big in gambling until they finally got addicted, not because they lost continuously until they became addicts. Because with the experience that I experienced myself and looked around, at least those who gamble and get the results of losing at the beginning without going through big wins in gambling, in fact they will be easier to quit and leave gambling. There is nothing complicated to recover from gambling addiction if they are responsible gamblers, because the problem is how to become a responsible gambler because to achieve that requires discipline and awareness.

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July 07, 2021, 10:30:32 AM
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It is better to use the money from the loan to create a business because you will have a chance to make money from that
Basically, to loan money both for gambling and a business in real life isn't recommended. You are better to wait for having sufficient money to start a business. Especially for gambling, it is better to avoid. There is no guarantee of success, instead of high risk to lose big money. We don't need to force ourselves to gamble or start a business if we have no enough money yet.
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You are right about gambling but wrong about business. The truth is that 99.99% of people will never have "free" money to start a business - all the money is spent on life and important stages of life. Therefore, if people follow your advice, then this vast majority of people will never open a business, but this is wrong, because if they have the necessary knowledge, experience and competence, then opening a business is a much more reliable investing than gambling.

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July 07, 2021, 12:10:08 PM
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Some just learned the hard way, while some are really responsible enough  to understand the risk in gambling, they also understand their real chance of winning so they will not try to be ambitious to consider gambling as a source of income, instead they'll consider it as a way to entertain themselves.
Indeed. It is difficult if we become ambitious to win, especially if we do not see our chance of winning because that will make us unable to see enough. Gambling is part of entertainment so we should use gambling like that and not use gambling as a source of income. By doing that, that is a small part of being responsible for ourselves in gambling.



It is better to use the money from the loan to create a business because you will have a chance to make money from that
Basically, to loan money both for gambling and a business in real life isn't recommended. You are better to wait for having sufficient money to start a business. Especially for gambling, it is better to avoid. There is no guarantee of success, instead of high risk to lose big money. We don't need to force ourselves to gamble or start a business if we have no enough money yet.
That is the right thing that we should do. But the fact is people do not have patience and borrow money from banks to create a business. But for playing gambling, it is not recommended to borrow money, no matter what the reason is. Usually, when people borrow money from the banks, they already plan what they will do for that money to stick to that. But for people who borrow money for gambling, they will not ask the bank instead, they will try to borrow the money from somebody else.

Being a responsible gambler needs more effort and I am sure that we can do that, although it is not easy to start.
A strong intention is the first thing to have if we want to be responsible gamblers. Then, surely we need to try constantly although it requires big efforts. When we can discipline and commit to our goal to be responsible gamblers, we will be successful to change our habits to be more responsible in the end.
If we can do that, it will be a matter of time for us to become responsible gamblers, and when we play gambling, we can use gambling to entertain ourselves. And we can stop gambling anytime we want because of our reason for playing gambling because of having fun.

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July 07, 2021, 01:16:51 PM
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It is better to use the money from the loan to create a business because you will have a chance to make money from that
Basically, to loan money both for gambling and a business in real life isn't recommended. You are better to wait for having sufficient money to start a business. Especially for gambling, it is better to avoid. There is no guarantee of success, instead of high risk to lose big money. We don't need to force ourselves to gamble or start a business if we have no enough money yet.
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You are right about gambling but wrong about business. The truth is that 99.99% of people will never have "free" money to start a business - all the money is spent on life and important stages of life. Therefore, if people follow your advice, then this vast majority of people will never open a business, but this is wrong, because if they have the necessary knowledge, experience and competence, then opening a business is a much more reliable investing than gambling.

Well, both have risk to be honest, the only difference is that the risk in starting a business is much lower than gambling, however, if you don't have any idea how to run a business like how to make profits in gambling, then surely in the end you'll lose all the money you got from loan.

So the idea is to do whatever you know how to work things out to avoid getting so much debt from loan or getting bankrupt because you started a business or playing gambling without any plans at all. I mean, you're not going anywhere.
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July 07, 2021, 03:45:19 PM
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It is better to use the money from the loan to create a business because you will have a chance to make money from that
Basically, to loan money both for gambling and a business in real life isn't recommended. You are better to wait for having sufficient money to start a business. Especially for gambling, it is better to avoid. There is no guarantee of success, instead of high risk to lose big money. We don't need to force ourselves to gamble or start a business if we have no enough money yet.
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You are right about gambling but wrong about business. The truth is that 99.99% of people will never have "free" money to start a business - all the money is spent on life and important stages of life. Therefore, if people follow your advice, then this vast majority of people will never open a business, but this is wrong, because if they have the necessary knowledge, experience and competence, then opening a business is a much more reliable investing than gambling.

Practically right and I back you with this statement, having the right knowledge within your

chosen field of investment or business the chance of being successful is far better comparing to any types of gambling.

Your knowledge is the key factors of your success, it can apply also with gambling but the chance of getting wreck out and completely losing your fund is far higher than starting a business if you have good understanding within the line.

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