Be a Responsible Gambler

[Shasha80]

I have a friend who is addicted to gambling and his life is ruined because of it. So I understand the importance of controlling emotions when
playing gambling, but as you said controlling emotions is not an easy thing to be done by people who are addicted. Because after all, people
who are addicted can no longer think rationally, their emotions are out of control. So it takes the help of others to deal with people who are addicted.

But not all gamblers or addicted gamblers is ready to seek help,some were too immature to accept the fact that they are addicts and they need to change if they want to make their lives better. There is a need for the people who surrounds them to understand be patient and to not give up on pursuing their love ones to stop the addiction. It's hard but somehow if that person really want to change they'll be able to do it.

It's also a sad fact that not everyone who is addicted is ready to seek help. What's even more terrifying is that those who are addicted do not realize
they are already addicted, this usually happens all around us. Therefore, sometimes it takes a sense of care from others if we see people who are
addicted. Without the support of the closest people, it is not easy to cure people who are addicted, so we all have to care about other people.
But the desire to quit oneself must also exist, without the desire to quit from someone who is addicted it will be difficult to cure gambling addiction.

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[maydna]

Experienced  gamblers  tend doing  this and manage  to make things possible,  with skills and luck  combined  they  are  gaining  decent benefits.
Most of the time,  ordinary gamblers  lose more each time they've  attempt to play for money,  the control over emotion made them suffer  as they  can't manage it correctly.
They can if they  are good in  managing  their money,  can't be done if you don't know  how to limit  yourself,  if you keep pushing  forward  even  your status  is already falling behind  your target.
You need to  realize  how  much  risk  you  can take and limit yourself , keep the fun and forget about being  greedy. If you can  do that then  you are good  to go.
Indeed,  being being contented  with your  winnings  is far  better than  losing  your entire bankroll.  🙂

Sometimes, experienced gamblers can't get that benefits as we knew that in gambling, losses will always be behind us. The ordinary gambler will not have a chance to control their emotion because they do not learn more about them. But if they can learn about that and try to manage their money, they will perhaps get that benefit and recover their losses, but that is still not easy. I agree that limiting the money will be what we must do to minimize the risk of losing bigger money. But you need always to be careful with greed because greed will come to you no matter your condition. Lastly, it is better to stop for a while and leave the game if you already win.

Keeping records of their gambling expenses and profits is more depressing and stressful if they'll do that, so they choose to avoid it or they don't really want to do it because it's just a waste of time or whatever. All they wanted is to win every time they play gambling, however, like most of us knows, most of the time the majority of gamblers are losing.

That's why making it as your job to earn money is never an option, because that's not how gambling works, it's a 30:70 chance of winning, as always.

Perhaps, that is the thing a gambler considers not to record their gambling experience because when they see their losses in that record, that can make them sad, and perhaps, they will have a passion for recovering their losses. But if they are responsible gamblers,  they will do anything to make sure that they will break their limit by spending more money instead will use the limited money to gamble. If they use gambling as a job, they need to see what happened to them before to see if gambling is a match to them or they need to search for other jobs.

[Lorence.xD]

But not all gamblers or addicted gamblers is ready to seek help,some were too immature to accept the fact that they are addicts and they need to change if they want to make their lives better. There is a need for the people who surrounds them to understand be patient and to not give up on pursuing their love ones to stop the addiction. It's hard but somehow if that person really want to change they'll be able to do it.

I don't think so, remember that we have two layers in our mind which is the conscious and unconscious mind, what I am trying to say is that they might not want to get help consciously but their unconscious self knows better that they really need the help.

[Betwrong]

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It does seem boring, as you said it yourself. However, people are different and what's boring for some can be fun for others. If keeping the detailed records is what makes your gambling experience more entertaining, go ahead and do it then, but overall, if you can't say how much you lost to gambling, say, in the last moth, it means you haven't lost something significant, and therefore you are fine.

I will admit that I enjoy keeping records of my financial transactions so I have a very clear idea of where every single cent went, I know this is probably something that not many people will enjoy but as I said it has its uses, also while what you say about people not remembering how much money they have lost in gambling being a sign that you have not lost so much money is true, there are cases in which the opposite is true, like those that are addicted and cannot tell you how much they have lost over the years because they have lost so much money they have lost track of that amount.

I agree with you, there can be such cases, and it would be very interesting to see some stats on that. Such severe cases are surely not common, but I'm afraid they are there. This has a good chances of happening to people living alone, with no friends/relatives around, who could remind them of how much they've lost.

.. but don't try to earn money through gambling.

Don't tell that to those experienced gamblers who have made a fixed income thru gambling.

That's why there are professional gamblers. These people know how to manage their bankroll properly, plus their good gambling skills, that's why even the difficult part, which is turning their gambling activity into revenue, they made it possible.

For us casual gamblers, we can't be like that so that's where the part of only gamble the amount afford to lose should be applied.

True. But also don't forget that pretty often those "professional gamblers" lose a lot, sometimes everything, because of extremely bad luck. So, for every gambler I would recommend your attitude: see himself as a casual gambler.

[boyptc]

Even in online gambling space you will see many obsessive gamblers who does not know how to stop unless they loose millions of dollars.

That's too much obsession and there really are situations that happens like that.

But even not having a million dollars, there are those obsessed gamblers that cannot control themselves and forgotten to be responsible with their own actions.

Even a hundred to thousand of dollars, they can spend that within a short period of time.

[Renampun]

Even in online gambling space you will see many obsessive gamblers who does not know how to stop unless they loose millions of dollars.

That's too much obsession and there really are situations that happens like that.

But even not having a million dollars, there are those obsessed gamblers that cannot control themselves and forgotten to be responsible with their own actions.

Even a hundred to thousand of dollars, they can spend that within a short period of time.

The obsession to keep on winning is often what makes a gambler not winning but losing...

those who have entered the addiction stage often have no desire to stop at all, they are really really obsessed no matter where the money comes from in an instant, they have to spend it.

[boyptc]

Even in online gambling space you will see many obsessive gamblers who does not know how to stop unless they loose millions of dollars.

That's too much obsession and there really are situations that happens like that.

But even not having a million dollars, there are those obsessed gamblers that cannot control themselves and forgotten to be responsible with their own actions.

Even a hundred to thousand of dollars, they can spend that within a short period of time.

The obsession to keep on winning is often what makes a gambler not winning but losing...

those who have entered the addiction stage often have no desire to stop at all, they are really really obsessed no matter where the money comes from in an instant, they have to spend it.

I think that they have the desire to stop. But since they are already attached to the game and they've invested heavily with their emotions, they cannot dettach to it.

And that's why even if they want to stop, they just can't. I've been there and experienced that feeling.

[KTChampions]

How many of these gamblers do you know? I'm sure if you know someone it's someone who wrote a book or blogged on YouTube or sells "working" strategies, right? If there is some kind of working strategy, then you need to keep silent about it, otherwise it will quickly stop working. I'm not sure about the honesty of those people who brag about their successes.

Success can't be bragged about, and if it's shouted off by the gambler who succeeded, then he doesn't succeed at all and only claiming it to gain fame. There is no gambler in this world who can turn gambling into a revenue except those who were lucky enough to win lotteries/ jackpots or at least won a hefty life changing amount through gambling then they stop doing it. If a gambler remains addicted, there are always those chances of losing the money. No gambler can always book profits (even with losses).

Quite right. Those who advertise themselves and their success usually try to monetize this fame, or they are initially paid for such activity. This is true for almost all areas of activity, and especially gambling/trading on the stock exchange/forex. I do not like such hidden advertising, especially considering that these are risky activities and people can seriously believe in the "guaranteed" winnings there.

[2double0]

Quite right. Those who advertise themselves and their success usually try to monetize this fame, or they are initially paid for such activity. This is true for almost all areas of activity, and especially gambling/trading on the stock exchange/forex. I do not like such hidden advertising, especially considering that these are risky activities and people can seriously believe in the "guaranteed" winnings there.

I saw an advertisement of a gambler who said he won more than 2 million pounds and there was an article about another gambler who lost all his winnings in just one night. I'd call the losing guy's story a better advertisement here because it is teaching gamblers not to gamble too much because whether trading or gambling, both these things are famous for quick money making and even faster fatty losses. It is not quite good when a gambler shows off his wins because (as I believe in superstitions) if a gambler unnecessarily talks too much about his success, then that success slips away from his hands very quickly.

[Silberman]

Keeping records of their gambling expenses and profits is more depressing and stressful if they'll do that, so they choose to avoid it or they don't really want to do it because it's just a waste of time or whatever. All they wanted is to win every time they play gambling, however, like most of us knows, most of the time the majority of gamblers are losing.

That's why making it as your job to earn money is never an option, because that's not how gambling works, it's a 30:70 chance of winning, as always.

For me it's not, I keep a record to know if I'm really profitable in gambling or not, that's when I like to make an experiment if it's possible to make money in gambling based on my personal experience. Everyone needs to learn how to record if they are after for consistency or improvement of their skills in gambling, it has to be taken seriously as we are dealing with the risk of losing our money here.

Keeping records is really important and not only about the money that you use while you are gambling but about all the money that you have spent, after all if we are thinking about retiring someday then we need to have some savings and investments, and while there are many countries in which governments manage the retirements accounts of their citizens we need to be honest and remember that most countries are basically bankrupt so I will not be surprised if they decide to keep that money and never give it back, as such keeping records of our expenses, including gambling, is a must to see if we have been successful so far and if not to reduce our expenses to manageable levels.

[hahay]

But not all gamblers or addicted gamblers is ready to seek help,some were too immature to accept the fact that they are addicts and they need to change if they want to make their lives better. There is a need for the people who surrounds them to understand be patient and to not give up on pursuing their love ones to stop the addiction. It's hard but somehow if that person really want to change they'll be able to do it.

I don't think so, remember that we have two layers in our mind which is the conscious and unconscious mind, what I am trying to say is that they might not want to get help consciously but their unconscious self knows better that they really need the help.

Is it out of prestige or shame to admit? What makes them have these two different thoughts?
Humans are social creatures so it's perfectly natural for them to want help, but if they have different feelings or thoughts like that or can't admit it, then the only reason is lack of confidence.
Because responsible gamblers are those who are strong to fight and solve the problems they face, so there is no longer any different thinking in him. Deciding to solve it themselves or ask for help is not a problem, because most importantly they can do it with confidence and determination. Do not confuse yourself with these different thoughts, because it will only make you more confused because it is difficult to focus.

[jaberwock]

responsible gamblers are those who are strong to fight and solve the problems they face, so there is no longer any different thinking in him. Deciding to solve it themselves or ask for help is not a problem, because most importantly they can do it with confidence and determination.

Yeah, being responsible while gambling must be the highest state a gambler could achieve which is possible only after long experiences. It means a responsible gambler must be capable of solving everything on their own and on first encounter itself. Availing external help for reaching solution must be a right approach because you must be aware of how to solve rather than struggling unable to proceed.

if I still want to play at the gambling place then I have to create a new account so that the account will be neutral and not be the target of the gambling place.

But, most crypto gambling houses are too strict against having more than one account; so I guess you must need to be more conscious while choosing your places before kicking off with one place by double checking their terms and conditions.

[delfastTions]

Is it out of prestige or shame to admit? What makes them have these two different thoughts?
Humans are social creatures so it's perfectly natural for them to want help, but if they have different feelings or thoughts like that or can't admit it, then the only reason is lack of confidence.
Because responsible gamblers are those who are strong to fight and solve the problems they face, so there is no longer any different thinking in him. Deciding to solve it themselves or ask for help is not a problem, because most importantly they can do it with confidence and determination. Do not confuse yourself with these different thoughts, because it will only make you more confused because it is difficult to focus.

You remembered responsibility for your actions.  These are essential elements of our behavior and decision-making motivation.  I could compare a person's choice of an action option with an endless tape of different options, and his conscious choice.  The brain is a very delicate and unexplored instrument.  Therefore, sometimes what is reasonable and responsible from your point of view, from the point of view of other people, may look like madness and stupidity.  And then I was very interested in the question, and how would artificial intelligence choose a solution, for example, in the gaming field of activity.  Accidentally, based on statistics or otherwise.  And it is very interesting to compare the options with the actions of real people.
But all these are assumptions, perhaps the community should develop the idea of ​​AI solutions.
 

[passwordnow]

I myself when I get a lot of profit then I will try to make a withdrawal profit and after that if I still want to play at the gambling place then I have to create a new account so that the account will be neutral and not be the target of the gambling place.

With saying gambling place, do you mean about the online casino or the physical one? if it's both. AFAIK, there are TOS and rules that only allows 1 player to own 1 account only. So if you're doing that, then you're going to face such problems if the casino where you are playing finds out that you've made another one and if there's another lucky day for you, they might track that you're the same guy that have won and would put in their minds a question of why you have to make another account.

[Ucy]

The topic makes me laugh whenever i come across it.  I hope we learn something Important and Safe from the thread.
Well, I actually choose to be a Responsible Bettor whenever i decide to bet on Football, Dice, Lottery , Stocks, Currencies etc
Everyone can decide to call it whatever is safe and good for them.  Let's gambul gamble on stocks,dice, football etc" doesn't work for me.
 I always choose "Let's Bet."

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

[Peanutswar]

The topic makes me laugh whenever i come across it.  I hope we learn something Important and Safe from the thread.
Well, I actually choose to be a Responsible Bettor whenever i decide to bet on Football, Dice, Lottery , Stocks, Currencies etc
Everyone can decide to call it whatever is safe and good for them.  Let's gambul gamble on stocks,dice, football etc" doesn't work for me.
 I always choose "Let's Bet."

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

Even a responsible gambler can take a risk but they have proper risk management. Like adding a limit for their winning and losses it depends on the gambler.

I myself when I get a lot of profit then I will try to make a withdrawal profit and after that if I still want to play at the gambling place then I have to create a new account so that the account will be neutral and not be the target of the gambling place.

With saying gambling place, do you mean about the online casino or the physical one? if it's both. AFAIK, there are TOS and rules that only allows 1 player to own 1 account only. So if you're doing that, then you're going to face such problems if the casino where you are playing finds out that you've made another one and if there's another lucky day for you, they might track that you're the same guy that have won and would put in their minds a question of why you have to make another account.

AFAIK some of them not restricting having another account because at the end of the day the player makes a deposit to the gambling platform and still another profit this to the platform but some of them right now they restrict having a one account if they have Know your customer or KYC verificaion to avoid getting dummy and spam accounts to their database.

[Betwrong]

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You remembered responsibility for your actions.  These are essential elements of our behavior and decision-making motivation.  I could compare a person's choice of an action option with an endless tape of different options, and his conscious choice.  The brain is a very delicate and unexplored instrument.  Therefore, sometimes what is reasonable and responsible from your point of view, from the point of view of other people, may look like madness and stupidity.  And then I was very interested in the question, and how would artificial intelligence choose a solution, for example, in the gaming field of activity.  Accidentally, based on statistics or otherwise.  And it is very interesting to compare the options with the actions of real people.
But all these are assumptions, perhaps the community should develop the idea of ​​AI solutions.
 

Interesting idea regarding AI. I would go for "based on statistics" option first. If major gambling sites, where billions of bets made, provided the AI with input data it could tell us to which degree it is important to be a responsible gambler.(We already know that it's important, but what we don't know is how many times, say, per year, we can afford a bit of recklessness). Another option could be trillions and trillions simulations. I wouldn't mind seeing those results too.

[imstillthebest]

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

Is there such a big difference between gambling and betting?

both words can be used in a gambling sentence . for ex. i will gamble or i will bet today on this xxxx.xxx casino but they are spelled differently and for him the other has a different meaning .
he can also say that he will play on xxxx.xxx casino and not use the term gambling or betting because he will only play for fun and not for profit .

[maydna]

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

Is there such a big difference between gambling and betting?

both words can be used in a gambling sentence . for ex. i will gamble or i will bet today on this xxxx.xxx casino but they are spelled differently and for him the other has a different meaning .
he can also say that he will play on xxxx.xxx casino and not use the term gambling or betting because he will only play for fun and not for profit .

Both bet and gamble use money. The difference is the word itself, but have both have the same means.

So responsible gambler will be a gambler who can take care of himself while playing gambling, and he always reminds him that he doesn't need to play for a long time. He can quit gambling anytime he wants without having a wanting to win more. But many gamblers already lose much money in gambling because they can't become responsible gamblers. That is a lesson for us.

[Lordhermes]

The topic makes me laugh whenever i come across it.  I hope we learn something Important and Safe from the thread.
Well, I actually choose to be a Responsible Bettor whenever i decide to bet on Football, Dice, Lottery , Stocks, Currencies etc
Everyone can decide to call it whatever is safe and good for them.  Let's gambul gamble on stocks,dice, football etc" doesn't work for me.
 I always choose "Let's Bet."

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

Is there anyone that can ever be responsible in gambling? Responsibility in gambling needs total abstenance  from it.There is no way an addict in gambling will have enough money to gamble with,and won't gamble. Gambling is a spirit that one can hardly resist,especially when you are an addict.