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September 09, 2021, 06:59:32 PM
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As long as you can be responsible for what you do in gambling, there is nothing to worry about because you will not have a problem losing some money in gambling games. Bluffing is necessary to trick the opponent but you should know that not all players can be trick by us because some players will have more experience than us. All in all, in gambling, no matter what your strategy or method, you must have luck because that will determine you will lose or win.
True, in the first place, you gambled money knowing of the fact that you would lose money. That's why the words gamble responsibly is often released out there for people to take to heart after all. As for winning, well, really it's all up to luck, just that most gamblers simply take into account their own luck. They should always take into account that their own luck isn't the only one that's being considered when playing cards like poker, it's against other players' luck as well. It's like a PVP battle of not the players, but rather the luck of the other players BUT the amount of luck is hidden behind the bluffs and whatnot of the players.
When you do gamble then you should think off that those money that had been used on playing is already considered lost or minding that you do pay up something for the leisure or enjoyment that you do attain.
Be responsible with your finances because if you do let yourself do fall into the pit of addiction then this would really be a big problem for you later on and this should really be avoided on the first place.

Play for fun and don't chase up for you to win or for you to make money because these are the primary reasons on why people do suffer problems because of gambling.

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September 09, 2021, 08:23:32 PM
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Sometimes, people get curious and they will never learn from other's experiences and mistakes unless they experience them themselves expecting that they could make a different path. We should really have a complete understanding of the risks of gambling so we'll know how to control ourselves from betting or gambling too much. There's always a limit to everything and abusing gambling could ruin our lives later on.
Either they're stupid or they are oblivious. To be honest, that kind of person isn't worth helping at all because they don't have any plans of being different or taking a different path. I think that it's innate for us to understand the risk in gambling, I don't think that no one is oblivious even to that.
Someone who don't learn from his/her own experiences and as well as not learning from others experiences, we don't know what's with them. Even if you tell them to be responsible as they gamble.

They will continually going to make the same mistakes again and again. Still, if you a person like that, don't close your doors of helping him if he asks about tips on how to overcome addiction.

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September 09, 2021, 08:27:45 PM
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Sometimes, people get curious and they will never learn from other's experiences and mistakes unless they experience them themselves expecting that they could make a different path. We should really have a complete understanding of the risks of gambling so we'll know how to control ourselves from betting or gambling too much. There's always a limit to everything and abusing gambling could ruin our lives later on.
Either they're stupid or they are oblivious. To be honest, that kind of person isn't worth helping at all because they don't have any plans of being different or taking a different path. I think that it's innate for us to understand the risk in gambling, I don't think that no one is oblivious even to that.
Someone who don't learn from his/her own experiences and as well as not learning from others experiences, we don't know what's with them. Even if you tell them to be responsible as they gamble.

They will continually going to make the same mistakes again and again. Still, if you a person like that, don't close your doors of helping him if he asks about tips on how to overcome addiction.

Eventually they will learn, for some gamblers who does not listen, unfortunately they will have to learn the hard way, some gamblers only realized that they messed up if they already become homeless, hopefully it will not reach to that point as life would be painful with that experience.
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September 10, 2021, 04:11:20 AM
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True, in the first place, you gambled money knowing of the fact that you would lose money. That's why the words gamble responsibly is often released out there for people to take to heart after all. As for winning, well, really it's all up to luck, just that most gamblers simply take into account their own luck. They should always take into account that their own luck isn't the only one that's being considered when playing cards like poker, it's against other players' luck as well. It's like a PVP battle of not the players, but rather the luck of the other players BUT the amount of luck is hidden behind the bluffs and whatnot of the players.
If they do not count their luck and only try to enjoy the game, they will get that gambling is not something that needs serious play. With having responsibility in gambling and always manage their money to gamble, they will know how to treat gambling. It is an activity that needs luck, no matter how good our skills in gambling, especially if that is a gambling game based on skills and knowledge. The poker game is different from the other gambling games and we need to focus and try to win by using many ways, including bluffing the opponent. But we should remember that poker needs the luck to win.

Several times I have closely watched the behavior, gestures, and generally the behavior of professional players in prestigious poker competitions.  It should be noted that falsification on them is practically out of the question.  
I was surprised by the impenetrability or even playfulness in the behavior of these players.  I think that they are capable of depicting emotions with the slightest gestures or movement of the head by a millimeter and other micromovements.  And I think that they are unsurpassed actors in this - they can deceive others in this way by portraying completely wrong emotions.  In general, such an observation is very entertaining, I recommend watching.  
All this is definitely a talent and there are few such players and they can certainly succeed .... and colossal prizes.
What I can not understand from them is how they can easily change their emotion face and pretend to have cool faces because that is not easy to have a face that shows nothing happens with them, even if they have bad cards. They can trick the other opponent, including a pro poker player like them. But then, I realized that their experience and long-term practicing and playing poker cards can influence them to act based on the current situation. Yes, they are a multitalented actor that can easily change from time to time in the poker card and that is not easy to learn.

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September 11, 2021, 09:16:02 AM
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Sometimes, people get curious and they will never learn from other's experiences and mistakes unless they experience them themselves expecting that they could make a different path. We should really have a complete understanding of the risks of gambling so we'll know how to control ourselves from betting or gambling too much. There's always a limit to everything and abusing gambling could ruin our lives later on.
Either they're stupid or they are oblivious. To be honest, that kind of person isn't worth helping at all because they don't have any plans of being different or taking a different path. I think that it's innate for us to understand the risk in gambling, I don't think that no one is oblivious even to that.
Someone who don't learn from his/her own experiences and as well as not learning from others experiences, we don't know what's with them. Even if you tell them to be responsible as they gamble.

They will continually going to make the same mistakes again and again. Still, if you a person like that, don't close your doors of helping him if he asks about tips on how to overcome addiction.

Eventually they will learn, for some gamblers who does not listen, unfortunately they will have to learn the hard way, some gamblers only realized that they messed up if they already become homeless, hopefully it will not reach to that point as life would be painful with that experience.

It's not new to me as I know people who end up selling their personal stuff just to finance their gambling addiction, it's not good and prevention is always better, but we are just human, we are prone to making mistakes and one reason for this is our greediness, our greediness to make money in a short period of time without realizing that gambling is not the right venue for everyone to achieve that goal.

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September 11, 2021, 09:36:09 AM
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It's not new to me as I know people who end up selling their personal stuff just to finance their gambling addiction, it's not good and prevention is always better, but we are just human, we are prone to making mistakes and one reason for this is our greediness, our greediness to make money in a short period of time without realizing that gambling is not the right venue for everyone to achieve that goal.

Gamblers who have done everything just to fulfill their desire to gamble is one of the signs he has quite a severe addiction, and of course such a person will be very difficult to prevent, I have seen many gamblers who finally realized after they really became poor and of course it will be the biggest regret for them after they lose everything they have.
And even in my place many of the gamblers who end up having to be in jail for committing a crime to get capital in gambling.

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September 11, 2021, 09:43:18 AM
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It's not new to me as I know people who end up selling their personal stuff just to finance their gambling addiction, it's not good and prevention is always better, but we are just human, we are prone to making mistakes and one reason for this is our greediness, our greediness to make money in a short period of time without realizing that gambling is not the right venue for everyone to achieve that goal.

Gamblers who have done everything just to fulfill their desire to gamble is one of the signs he has quite a severe addiction, and of course such a person will be very difficult to prevent, I have seen many gamblers who finally realized after they really became poor and of course it will be the biggest regret for them after they lose everything they have.
And even in my place many of the gamblers who end up having to be in jail for committing a crime to get capital in gambling.

If the crime index will increase due to gambling, then probably gambling was not regulated well in the area, sometimes the government have to look if the people are not suffering from poverty, because in a country where poverty is high, gambling could potentially result to committing crimes as they will also be easily addicted.

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Gamblers who have done everything just to fulfill their desire to gamble is one of the signs he has quite a severe addiction, and of course such a person will be very difficult to prevent, I have seen many gamblers who finally realized after they really became poor and of course it will be the biggest regret for them after they lose everything they have.
And even in my place many of the gamblers who end up having to be in jail for committing a crime to get capital in gambling.
Those gamblers that have done anything to keep going and in the end they've lose and eventually became poor, that's really one of the worst effect of not controlling yourself as you gamble. It's a very important matter to remember that in everything there's a limitation and in gambling, one has to limit of when to stop and how much he should fully lose even if he wants to keep going. That's the sad reality that many have to deal with because they've done it wrong and they allowed their emotions to eat them.

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September 12, 2021, 10:48:01 AM
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I was insisted by different people several times. Gambling isn't meant to make money. It is pure business, have fun and never be a victim of it. Now I'm a victim of it. In my village when people play cards I used to advice them, none know I'm into gambling. What they play for is not more than $5, and now I find guilty of being worse than them.

What I've lost is big. Last one month have made a big change in my life. I don't know how things gonna change and myself gonna manage. I would like to brief the last 31 days of my life and gambling. Someone could read and won't get into risk of life.

I have debt of $35000. Myself saved $2500 in BTC on an exchange with the plan of trading. My mind wavered it takes time to make money out of trading. Myself deposited into a gambling platform. Started to gamble. Within few minutes it all got emptied. Then on my mind didn't work, everytime it thinks of the lost money and the way to recover it. Borrowed another $2000 from my friend and this too got washed out.

Further went for another borrow. This time it was $1000, and made it grow little by little and reached $4500. The greed making $1000 more caused me empty my wallet once again. Further went for a loan, this time it is very big. Bought Bitcoin for about $9500 and started to gamble. This went to $14000. By then my mind remembered of the $35000 debt. So, continued with big rolls and the end result is a empty wallet. Finally within the 31 days what I've made is nothing, but raised my debt from $35000 to $47500 and has lost my savings of $2500. After all even thought of ending my life(now that's not in me). Never do the same as me. Now I've promised myself to take a break from gambling.

Mostly this thread gets deleted or locked. Every user read it, and try to be responsible and stay happy with what you have. Try your luck with the excess funds and never have gambling as a way of earning.

Important Note : If you're jobless don't get into gambling, I'm an example. I don't have a job, and that's the reason I wasn't able to keep me deviated from gambling. Hope this helps someone.

Thank You

It's interesting to read personal disaster stories like this, as it should warn everyone of the futility of gambling. Just extracting certain pieces shows how warped and misguided you can become - this person (no disrespect intended) had the illusion that they had some savings, but infact this was entirely fictional when looking at the wider debt that must be paid. If you owe money, any excess you have will simply be part of what you need to pay back in the end. It's a dangerous trap to get into as you found out, because the deeper down you go, the more likely you are to try and chase losses - even building a picture in your mind that the casino is bound to pay out because you've put so much in, but they have no intentions of giving back large amounts. Problem gamblers are the biggest earners for these gaming institutions.

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September 12, 2021, 03:07:39 PM
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If the crime index will increase due to gambling, then probably gambling was not regulated well in the area, sometimes the government have to look if the people are not suffering from poverty, because in a country where poverty is high, gambling could potentially result to committing crimes as they will also be easily addicted.

It seems to me that where people are poor, the crime rate will be high regardless of how gambling is regulated and whether it exists at all (permitted or prohibited). Poverty causes destructive behavior and any normal thing (like gambling) becomes destructive too. Therefore, in my opinion, any government should first of all help the population get rich - this will help in resolving many related problems.

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September 12, 2021, 03:21:15 PM
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If the crime index will increase due to gambling, then probably gambling was not regulated well in the area, sometimes the government have to look if the people are not suffering from poverty, because in a country where poverty is high, gambling could potentially result to committing crimes as they will also be easily addicted.
If poverty is high in a country, it could trigger a crime increase and not just because of gambling because people will try to have money from many ways they know. They can do robbery, threaten by pointing weapons to get their money, stealing other people's money, or playing gambling will not be the bigger reason for them to make money because they have a primary thing that they should fill, such as buying food. If they do that, they are not responsible gamblers because they do not know how to play gambling.

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September 12, 2021, 06:19:42 PM
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If the crime index will increase due to gambling, then probably gambling was not regulated well in the area, sometimes the government have to look if the people are not suffering from poverty, because in a country where poverty is high, gambling could potentially result to committing crimes as they will also be easily addicted.
If poverty is high in a country, it could trigger a crime increase and not just because of gambling because people will try to have money from many ways they know. They can do robbery, threaten by pointing weapons to get their money, stealing other people's money, or playing gambling will not be the bigger reason for them to make money because they have a primary thing that they should fill, such as buying food. If they do that, they are not responsible gamblers because they do not know how to play gambling.

Addicted gamblers are far different from how normal people think! If they are already engaged in this activity, they will think of gambling first above to anything that supposedly they need to address.

I see that point, that there're possibilities that crime rate will increase due to excessive gambling. Addicted gamblers mostly resource to anything that possible to have money to gamble. Same with drugs and alcoholic addictions, they will force everything just to please the desire for them.

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September 12, 2021, 07:57:39 PM
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If the crime index will increase due to gambling, then probably gambling was not regulated well in the area, sometimes the government have to look if the people are not suffering from poverty, because in a country where poverty is high, gambling could potentially result to committing crimes as they will also be easily addicted.

It seems to me that where people are poor, the crime rate will be high regardless of how gambling is regulated and whether it exists at all (permitted or prohibited). Poverty causes destructive behavior and any normal thing (like gambling) becomes destructive too. Therefore, in my opinion, any government should first of all help the population get rich - this will help in resolving many related problems.

the rich have a more destructive way of causing crimes with much greater pain than the destruction that the poor cause, the main casino customers are rich and people who have more stable living conditions (I'm talking about people who have a house, food on the table and they manage to have a more stable life even if they don't have a big income) and these people most of them use drugs and are in the criminal world as gang leaders, and the poor in poor neighborhoods are just pawns.

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September 13, 2021, 11:04:57 AM
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It seems to me that where people are poor, the crime rate will be high regardless of how gambling is regulated and whether it exists at all (permitted or prohibited). Poverty causes destructive behavior and any normal thing (like gambling) becomes destructive too. Therefore, in my opinion, any government should first of all help the population get rich - this will help in resolving many related problems.

the rich have a more destructive way of causing crimes with much greater pain than the destruction that the poor cause, the main casino customers are rich and people who have more stable living conditions (I'm talking about people who have a house, food on the table and they manage to have a more stable life even if they don't have a big income) and these people most of them use drugs and are in the criminal world as gang leaders, and the poor in poor neighborhoods are just pawns.

To be honest, I don't understand where you got such data - maybe you just mean the former poor people who received a lot of money through criminal activity? Such people, due to their low level of fantasy and claims, of course spend them on drugs and other destructive behavior. Ordinary people who earn money (even big ones) in an honest way will not ruin their lives.

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September 13, 2021, 11:23:04 AM
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If the crime index will increase due to gambling, then probably gambling was not regulated well in the area, sometimes the government have to look if the people are not suffering from poverty, because in a country where poverty is high, gambling could potentially result to committing crimes as they will also be easily addicted.
If poverty is high in a country, it could trigger a crime increase and not just because of gambling because people will try to have money from many ways they know. They can do robbery, threaten by pointing weapons to get their money, stealing other people's money, or playing gambling will not be the bigger reason for them to make money because they have a primary thing that they should fill, such as buying food. If they do that, they are not responsible gamblers because they do not know how to play gambling.

Addicted gamblers are far different from how normal people think! If they are already engaged in this activity, they will think of gambling first above to anything that supposedly they need to address.

I see that point, that there're possibilities that crime rate will increase due to excessive gambling. Addicted gamblers mostly resource to anything that possible to have money to gamble. Same with drugs and alcoholic addictions, they will force everything just to please the desire for them.
Indeed. In their mind, they always think about how they can win the game and how they can have money to gamble. If that happens in one city, yes, the crime rate will increase as you said. It needs the government step to resolve the problem that happens in their people and they can not do alone without any support from the other people. That is why the government needs to use the other way to educate their people and explain the danger of playing gambling to reopen their minds to stay away from gambling.

And for addicted people to gambling, they need to help them get them at the rehabilitation and give them a second chance.

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September 13, 2021, 01:55:38 PM
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It seems to me that where people are poor, the crime rate will be high regardless of how gambling is regulated and whether it exists at all (permitted or prohibited). Poverty causes destructive behavior and any normal thing (like gambling) becomes destructive too. Therefore, in my opinion, any government should first of all help the population get rich - this will help in resolving many related problems.

the rich have a more destructive way of causing crimes with much greater pain than the destruction that the poor cause, the main casino customers are rich and people who have more stable living conditions (I'm talking about people who have a house, food on the table and they manage to have a more stable life even if they don't have a big income) and these people most of them use drugs and are in the criminal world as gang leaders, and the poor in poor neighborhoods are just pawns.

To be honest, I don't understand where you got such data - maybe you just mean the former poor people who received a lot of money through criminal activity? Such people, due to their low level of fantasy and claims, of course spend them on drugs and other destructive behavior. Ordinary people who earn money (even big ones) in an honest way will not ruin their lives.

I think what he's trying to say is that rich people and educated ones always take the advantage to poor people, like building a gambling business in a very deprived area. And it's true that rich people are often using drugs and other illegal activities but they will never be caught since they have protection from powerful politicians and so on. But somehow this argument is a little bit off topic on OP's thread that tackles being a responsible gambler.

Because no matter what life status you have, making a decision will be always on your responsibility as a person, and that shouldn't be blame on others if you failed.
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September 13, 2021, 04:57:07 PM
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It seems to me that where people are poor, the crime rate will be high regardless of how gambling is regulated and whether it exists at all (permitted or prohibited). Poverty causes destructive behavior and any normal thing (like gambling) becomes destructive too. Therefore, in my opinion, any government should first of all help the population get rich - this will help in resolving many related problems.

the rich have a more destructive way of causing crimes with much greater pain than the destruction that the poor cause, the main casino customers are rich and people who have more stable living conditions (I'm talking about people who have a house, food on the table and they manage to have a more stable life even if they don't have a big income) and these people most of them use drugs and are in the criminal world as gang leaders, and the poor in poor neighborhoods are just pawns.

To be honest, I don't understand where you got such data - maybe you just mean the former poor people who received a lot of money through criminal activity? Such people, due to their low level of fantasy and claims, of course spend them on drugs and other destructive behavior. Ordinary people who earn money (even big ones) in an honest way will not ruin their lives.

I think what he's trying to say is that rich people and educated ones always take the advantage to poor people, like building a gambling business in a very deprived area. And it's true that rich people are often using drugs and other illegal activities but they will never be caught since they have protection from powerful politicians and so on. But somehow this argument is a little bit off topic on OP's thread that tackles being a responsible gambler.

Because no matter what life status you have, making a decision will be always on your responsibility as a person, and that shouldn't be blame on others if you failed.
A bit off-topic, but being responsible is also related to one's life status, such as how rich people are sometimes not responsible for being a hardcore gambler because they have a lot of money and nothing to lose, and they are also good at taking advantage of those who only have low initials. While poor people should be more responsible because they are not like rich people who can afford to lose money whenever they want because money is meaningless to them, poor people should be cautious in any decisions that put pressure on them and may affect their mental health.

All of these are connected.
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September 13, 2021, 06:08:13 PM
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Indeed. In their mind, they always think about how they can win the game and how they can have money to gamble. If that happens in one city, yes, the crime rate will increase as you said.
If these people will reosurce to any illegal activities then the crime rates will keep booming, it's very possibile since addicted
gamblers always find ways to have money for their gambling.

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It needs the government step to resolve the problem that happens in their people and they can not do alone without any support from the other people.
Government can't do it alone indeed, it's two to tango with the help of the people this kind of problem will be lessen if can't be taken completely.

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That is why the government needs to use the other way to educate their people and explain the danger of playing gambling to reopen their minds to stay away from gambling.
Awareness helps a lot, the people will learn what are the impacts of gambling once you deal with addictions, government should take a serious campaign for this.

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And for addicted people to gambling, they need to help them get them at the rehabilitation and give them a second chance.
It's been said and yes, rehab and from the help of experts the chance to cure is much quicker.

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September 13, 2021, 09:52:37 PM
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It seems to me that where people are poor, the crime rate will be high regardless of how gambling is regulated and whether it exists at all (permitted or prohibited). Poverty causes destructive behavior and any normal thing (like gambling) becomes destructive too. Therefore, in my opinion, any government should first of all help the population get rich - this will help in resolving many related problems.

the rich have a more destructive way of causing crimes with much greater pain than the destruction that the poor cause, the main casino customers are rich and people who have more stable living conditions (I'm talking about people who have a house, food on the table and they manage to have a more stable life even if they don't have a big income) and these people most of them use drugs and are in the criminal world as gang leaders, and the poor in poor neighborhoods are just pawns.

To be honest, I don't understand where you got such data - maybe you just mean the former poor people who received a lot of money through criminal activity? Such people, due to their low level of fantasy and claims, of course spend them on drugs and other destructive behavior. Ordinary people who earn money (even big ones) in an honest way will not ruin their lives.

I think what he's trying to say is that rich people and educated ones always take the advantage to poor people, like building a gambling business in a very deprived area. And it's true that rich people are often using drugs and other illegal activities but they will never be caught since they have protection from powerful politicians and so on. But somehow this argument is a little bit off topic on OP's thread that tackles being a responsible gambler.

Because no matter what life status you have, making a decision will be always on your responsibility as a person, and that shouldn't be blame on others if you failed.
Self will and decision is something that do differs in all human beings since we do have it once we had already matured enough on deciding on what are the things that would really be good for us.
Somehow there would really be difference in terms of opportunities that someone gets because they do really have that advantage but it doesnt mean that you wont really be making out yourself
on making out good decisions for your own sake.Dont mind about their advantages or something like that because it wouldnt really be just having no sense.

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September 15, 2021, 02:36:53 AM
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A bit off-topic, but being responsible is also related to one's life status, such as how rich people are sometimes not responsible for being a hardcore gambler because they have a lot of money and nothing to lose, and they are also good at taking advantage of those who only have low initials. While poor people should be more responsible because they are not like rich people who can afford to lose money whenever they want because money is meaningless to them, poor people should be cautious in any decisions that put pressure on them and may affect their mental health.

All of these are connected.

This is the most logical statement that can be made, in games of chance those who have fewer resources seek to increase capital, have more money, therefore they are moved by a great need, obviously when they fail they tend to fall into depression and some in addiction, when compared to the rich, you are right, many of them do not mind losing a certain amount of money because it will not directly affect their economy, responsibility, although for people with few resources as for those with a lot money, the responsibility must also be part and parcel.

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