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May 16, 2021, 04:29:33 PM
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Moreover, most gamblers are seen as addicts, (because the majority of them are) thus, people will question your earnings and point their finger at you if you reveal them that you've lost a X amount of money.

That's a huge one, and I will not agree with that. By saying most, it means that gambling is really bad and should be ban, maybe it depends on the community or country you are living in as we have different cultures and in some religions, gambling itself is a sin, hence should be avoided.

People will only question your earing from gambling if they hate gambling or they don't understand gambling, and since you know what gambling is and you love it, there's no need to explain to them.
Actually most gamblers aren't problem gamblers. I've found a study saying about 3%-4% of the United States adults have issues or potential issues with gambling addiction, while around 60% of the country's population have gambled in the recent years. In another countries I believe it must be similar. Sometimes we have the impression most gamblers can't control themselves because the news spread stories about this category of players often, while they completely ignore normal gamblers who don't put their hobby in detriment of their personal lives and welfare. News want clicks and views, so they have to focus in problem gamblers only, that is understandable.

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May 16, 2021, 04:46:03 PM
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Moreover, most gamblers are seen as addicts, (because the majority of them are) thus, people will question your earnings and point their finger at you if you reveal them that you've lost a X amount of money.

That's a huge one, and I will not agree with that. By saying most, it means that gambling is really bad and should be ban, maybe it depends on the community or country you are living in as we have different cultures and in some religions, gambling itself is a sin, hence should be avoided.

People will only question your earing from gambling if they hate gambling or they don't understand gambling, and since you know what gambling is and you love it, there's no need to explain to them.
Actually most gamblers aren't problem gamblers. I've found a study saying about 3%-4% of the United States adults have issues or potential issues with gambling addiction, while around 60% of the country's population have gambled in the recent years. In another countries I believe it must be similar. Sometimes we have the impression most gamblers can't control themselves because the news spread stories about this category of players often, while they completely ignore normal gamblers who don't put their hobby in detriment of their personal lives and welfare. News want clicks and views, so they have to focus in problem gamblers only, that is understandable.

Yes, this is a typical distortion of reality.  News outlets love to write about problems and disasters. 

At the same time, they are not interested in positive stories.  Stories about people with gambling addiction (gambling addicts) can become the main story in the news or TV programs. 

People are interested in this.  People love to read news about other people's problems.  In doing so, they compare themselves to them.  They feel like successful people. 

At the same time, stories about successful and smart people playing in their spare time will not be popular.

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May 16, 2021, 08:59:56 PM
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Moreover, most gamblers are seen as addicts, (because the majority of them are) thus, people will question your earnings and point their finger at you if you reveal them that you've lost a X amount of money.

That's a huge one, and I will not agree with that. By saying most, it means that gambling is really bad and should be ban, maybe it depends on the community or country you are living in as we have different cultures and in some religions, gambling itself is a sin, hence should be avoided.

People will only question your earing from gambling if they hate gambling or they don't understand gambling, and since you know what gambling is and you love it, there's no need to explain to them.
While it is obvious that I also disagree with that notion there are many places in which this is true, whether it is because of religious beliefs or simply the culture there are many places around the world in which gamblers are seen in a very bad light which is why they hide the fact they gamble even if they have their gambling under control, this is why cryptocurrency casinos are so important because it has allowed those people to gamble securely on their homes and avoid any stigma produced by the activity.
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May 17, 2021, 07:10:30 AM
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at least so you can have a target when to stop and continue the game. That way, with a good calculation you can become a responsible gambler, right?

Yep.. Maybe they can make a portfolio? I don't think all gamblers have metal like what you say. They do not have good money management, so many fail and get frustrated.

The thing that is absolutely mastered is Emotion. This means you have to have what way I have to do when I win, When should I stop, not be greedy. Not only that, when you lose, you have to know when to stop, don't lust to return the lost money.
Maybe if they can have a portfolio for their gambling activity, they will see how much they already lose and win and if they can be wise, they will know that their chance to win will not too big than their loss. If they can know that, maybe that can reduce their gambling activity and limit the money they will use to gamble. Having a portfolio can make them responsible gamblers because they can see the percentage of winning and losing in the gambling games, which can help them control it.

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May 17, 2021, 11:26:58 AM
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~ Sadly that won't work.

The dopamine they have or they get every time they play gambling is the one who keeps them away on getting professional help or confessing to someone that they need help regarding about their situation in gambling being addicted on it. So the outcome of most gambling addict stories always end up in the worst case scenario, like they lost everything on them before they even realized that they should stop.
Are you able to provide studies that underline your argument? I actuallly dont think that the the outcome of the most "gambling careers" is something you described. Many seeking for help before they loose everything, which is a good thing. But of course there are some gamblers that end in the worst scenario and herethe government need to set some smart regulations to prevent it.

I think he might be right, but it looks like you misunderstood him. He was talking about gambling addicts, not all the gamblers. You are right that many (I would even say "most") gamblers start seeking professional help before it's too late. But there is a part, less than 5%, who are gambling addicts or problem gamblers, and it is very likely that most of them end up badly. It's not that they can't be helped, I personally know a guy who was completely cured from severe gambling addiction, but it's rare.

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May 17, 2021, 03:30:06 PM
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Sorry for your story man, gambling is not a guaranteed profitable activity, it is only an entertainment area !! I advise you to stay away from gambling activities and try to find work. Make a plan for your life again. Don't think about getting more loans, but try to count on yourself and work hard.
Yeah, there is no guaranteed profits in gambling but gambling is not only an entertainment area, why would someone choose to be entertained in gambling if there is more than that they can play better than gambling, it is because they are still hoping that someday they may win or get the mega jackpot in gambling, even though the risk is in gambling, money is still there, just know to control your emotions so you would not end up being a gambling addict.
Yes, there were more other ways to get entertained. Most of the gamblers here could've come into gambling for entertainment and to have fun. By situation these people turn to be addicted gamblers when they get some earning out of it. So, it is good to stay away from gambling if entertainment is the reason for gambling.
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May 17, 2021, 07:54:08 PM
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at least so you can have a target when to stop and continue the game. That way, with a good calculation you can become a responsible gambler, right?

Yep.. Maybe they can make a portfolio? I don't think all gamblers have metal like what you say. They do not have good money management, so many fail and get frustrated.

The thing that is absolutely mastered is Emotion. This means you have to have what way I have to do when I win, When should I stop, not be greedy. Not only that, when you lose, you have to know when to stop, don't lust to return the lost money.
Maybe if they can have a portfolio for their gambling activity, they will see how much they already lose and win and if they can be wise, they will know that their chance to win will not too big than their loss. If they can know that, maybe that can reduce their gambling activity and limit the money they will use to gamble. Having a portfolio can make them responsible gamblers because they can see the percentage of winning and losing in the gambling games, which can help them control it.

Having a good mindset is very important, they can acheived such goals if they are good in cotrolling everything. Having that portfolio
will surely guide them to lessen their budget and their stay inside the house.

It's all about how a gambler look at it and have a big nerve to embrace whatever system that they've got, come to think of it that
many experienced gamblers continue to work things out and enhance their knowledge not only on their strategy but most on their
control to continue profitable in the long term.

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many experienced gamblers continue to work things out and enhance their knowledge not only on their strategy but most on their
control to continue profitable in the long term.
Strategy and control, will it benefit experienced gambler in the long term?

Sorry mate, I'm not going to say that gamblers will make a profit in the long run because it is almost certain that they will lose in the end if they never want to stop gambling. Control and strategy are good ways to apply to gambling activities because they are two thing that can give them a higher chance of winning and help them limit their time and finances in the long run.

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many experienced gamblers continue to work things out and enhance their knowledge not only on their strategy but most on their
control to continue profitable in the long term.
Strategy and control, will it benefit experienced gambler in the long term?

Sorry mate, I'm not going to say that gamblers will make a profit in the long run because it is almost certain that they will lose in the end if they never want to stop gambling. Control and strategy are good ways to apply to gambling activities because they are two thing that can give them a higher chance of winning and help them limit their time and finances in the long run.
Strategy and control would only viable into a certain type of gambling which is only into those strategic ones but talking about luck based ones then its not really that effective nor applicable.
When handling out finances then its just normal that  you should really be mindful towards your funds because if not then you would really be messing your life.
Dont make it as a source of income and dont believe that it could really sustain for long term.This is only for entertainment nothingless.

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May 18, 2021, 01:48:01 AM
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A gambler really needs to be responsible for the money they use because if you are addicting playing, you will lost all money that you have sadly to say that is happening to the others gamblers who are uncontrol playing gambling games. We need to know that gambling is a risky and there is no assurance that you gain a profit I salute to those gambler who are responsible to the money they use. Don't lose all money in playing gambling but play that you can afford to lose so like what I did instead of gambling I investing to different project who gives me more profit..
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May 18, 2021, 01:57:11 AM
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That's a pretty ironic thing in opinion because gamblers don't necessarily have what it takes to be responsible so I don't get how you become a responsible gambler. But I will go with it, I think that this is just a matter of discipline that is going to change your habit from a "irresponsible" gambler to a "responsible" gambler.
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That's a pretty ironic thing in opinion because gamblers don't necessarily have what it takes to be responsible so I don't get how you become a responsible gambler. But I will go with it, I think that this is just a matter of discipline that is going to change your habit from a "irresponsible" gambler to a "responsible" gambler.

basically we are human still. gamblers as well who can learn from experience. we can be responsible too. there is just time that we got tempted but eventually when we have more experience we learn over time. gamblers will learn.

its not the end of the world when they lose money. a time come like when they have a kid or a girlfriend got pregnant, these gamblers will look into the future and say they need to plan.









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May 18, 2021, 03:18:29 AM
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at least so you can have a target when to stop and continue the game. That way, with a good calculation you can become a responsible gambler, right?

Yep.. Maybe they can make a portfolio? I don't think all gamblers have metal like what you say. They do not have good money management, so many fail and get frustrated.

The thing that is absolutely mastered is Emotion. This means you have to have what way I have to do when I win, When should I stop, not be greedy. Not only that, when you lose, you have to know when to stop, don't lust to return the lost money.
Maybe if they can have a portfolio for their gambling activity, they will see how much they already lose and win and if they can be wise, they will know that their chance to win will not too big than their loss. If they can know that, maybe that can reduce their gambling activity and limit the money they will use to gamble. Having a portfolio can make them responsible gamblers because they can see the percentage of winning and losing in the gambling games, which can help them control it.

Having a good mindset is very important, they can acheived such goals if they are good in cotrolling everything. Having that portfolio
will surely guide them to lessen their budget and their stay inside the house.

It's all about how a gambler look at it and have a big nerve to embrace whatever system that they've got, come to think of it that
many experienced gamblers continue to work things out and enhance their knowledge not only on their strategy but most on their
control to continue profitable in the long term.
If they can do that, I am sure they will survive this pandemic and see how much money they have to cover their daily needs. In this pandemic, we need to be wise to manage our money because we need to think about how we can buy food for ourselves and our family.

When we can reduce our time in gambling, we can focus on searching for the other things that can help us get a chance to make money instead of spending money on gambling. This pandemic makes us have more patience, get healthy, and still survive because we are not alone this time.

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May 18, 2021, 11:42:36 AM
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Moreover, most gamblers are seen as addicts, (because the majority of them are) thus, people will question your earnings and point their finger at you if you reveal them that you've lost a X amount of money.

That's a huge one, and I will not agree with that. By saying most, it means that gambling is really bad and should be ban, maybe it depends on the community or country you are living in as we have different cultures and in some religions, gambling itself is a sin, hence should be avoided.

People will only question your earing from gambling if they hate gambling or they don't understand gambling, and since you know what gambling is and you love it, there's no need to explain to them.
People will hate of they find us experiencing loss, and they'll get interested if they find us making profit out of it. So, whether it is a win or loss we need to give a briefing about the consequences when people finger us associating with gambling. All gamblers aren't addict, but the one who isn't able to have control over his funds on loss/win is the true addict. Such person should get out of gambling which is good for them. This includes me. Cheesy Cheesy
I'm not sure, are gamblers who can't control their funds when they win / lose addicts?
Because even beginner gamblers when winning / losing most of them will not be able to control their funds very well, maybe that is a different definition of a gambling addict from you. For me, a gambler who cannot control his funds when winning / losing is those who don't really care about calculations, even though being a gambler must at least realize a calculation in using funds in gambling is the most important thing, at least so you can have a target when to stop and continue the game. That way, with a good calculation you can become a responsible gambler, right?

I disagree.

It is true that if you don't have control to your funds, that only means that you're addicted to it because it doesn't matter anymore if you win or lose as long as you're feeding your desire which is to gamble everyday. Losing or winning will never determine your control over your funds, if you're addicted, you're gonna spend it until it's all gone while if you're not addicted, you are aware and have plan on how much you're going to put every bet.
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May 18, 2021, 12:08:21 PM
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That's a pretty ironic thing in opinion because gamblers don't necessarily have what it takes to be responsible so I don't get how you become a responsible gambler. But I will go with it, I think that this is just a matter of discipline that is going to change your habit from a "irresponsible" gambler to a "responsible" gambler.

I think in the beginning we are all gamblers who do not care much what happens when we have just started gambling and are still under the adrenaline of it.However with the passing of time in each session we learn something and this accumulates over the years to improve somewhat our self control.Only at this stage we can be responsible gamblers as we have learned from experience what to do and not to do in different situations.

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Sign is different from acceptance or questioning.

We can see signs in their behavior and their Money handling.

Mostly addicted people don't wanna spend money aside from gambling. they even keep their food cheaper just for the sake of gambling.

and addicted gamblers become more greedy and selfish .
How is it different, signs are an indicator that either you are doing positive or negative and it is different because they aren't the same thing, acceptance is when you finally saw the signs and you see it, acceptance is the action.

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I think in the beginning we are all gamblers who do not care much what happens when we have just started gambling and are still under the adrenaline of it.However with the passing of time in each session we learn something and this accumulates over the years to improve somewhat our self control.Only at this stage we can be responsible gamblers as we have learned from experience what to do and not to do in different situations.
Experience helps us to gain knowledge and learn with the past mistakes that we did.

That's really making us realize that there's always the case that we want to win a lot on that particular day when you're feeling good but at the same time, there's something that stops you because you're becoming more responsible.

You know what shall happen if you won't stop if you're feeling the adrenaline already.

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I think in the beginning we are all gamblers who do not care much what happens when we have just started gambling and are still under the adrenaline of it.However with the passing of time in each session we learn something and this accumulates over the years to improve somewhat our self control.Only at this stage we can be responsible gamblers as we have learned from experience what to do and not to do in different situations.
Experience helps us to gain knowledge and learn with the past mistakes that we did.

That's really making us realize that there's always the case that we want to win a lot on that particular day when you're feeling good but at the same time, there's something that stops you because you're becoming more responsible.

You know what shall happen if you won't stop if you're feeling the adrenaline already.
Once you are already fully self-aware on things around you or on things that you do deal off then it is likely that you would able to avoid on things which you know that can possibly put you into a hard situation.
Being responsible doesnt only limit out on gambling but in all other things in life as well where it does really need for you to be mindful and always check out if this one could benefit you out or not.
When dealing with gambling then this isnt something that you cant just ignore because chances on getting addicted is really high depending on what are your aims on why you do play in the first place.

Be responsible and be mindful towards your actions and towards your decisions in life.Always look which something would really be good for you.

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May 18, 2021, 09:46:43 PM
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Wow! That's way much debt for an experience @OP. You know, its actually funny how a lot of gamblers go into gambling and believe that, they could actually win a fortune out of it! I've been there once though, your experience with the system is far worst than anything I've been through with gambling. Gambling is actually a business and it profits the owner of the platform more than it does to anyone as the odds on each game is carefully designed that way. The more you set your goals or targets on big wins, the farther or deeper you dig the hole for your own burial.

One thing is having these experience, the next thing is what you learnt and how to get back to your fit. Its always advised not to invest or gamble what you can't afford to lose. So, we must ask ourself at every point before making a stake. What would become of us should we loose the staked amount?

Let's go about gambling responsibly.

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May 19, 2021, 08:11:46 AM
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I think in the beginning we are all gamblers who do not care much what happens when we have just started gambling and are still under the adrenaline of it.However with the passing of time in each session we learn something and this accumulates over the years to improve somewhat our self control.Only at this stage we can be responsible gamblers as we have learned from experience what to do and not to do in different situations.
Experience helps us to gain knowledge and learn with the past mistakes that we did.

That's really making us realize that there's always the case that we want to win a lot on that particular day when you're feeling good but at the same time, there's something that stops you because you're becoming more responsible.

You know what shall happen if you won't stop if you're feeling the adrenaline already.
If we can learn from past mistakes and other people's mistakes, that can add more information and knowledge to us and we will have a chance to prevent ourselves from losing the money. We can realize that being a responsible gambler will be the important thing that we must do to enjoy playing gambling and managing our money. Besides that, we can prevent becoming addicted gamblers in the future, especially if we can remember that gambling is just an option and part of life.

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