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May 11, 2021, 01:14:51 PM
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My heart beats high, my pressure keeps rising, my mind is restless, my body is shivering. It all means I've lost big. My girl is in deep sleep, once she gets awake I don't know what is gonna happen. I lost big of around $4500. Everyday morning she wakes and first see the wallet, if there is any change in the holdings due to market growth. I don't know what to do, this has been continuing with me. She had forgiven me several times. This time I don't know what is gonna happen.

Truly she is unlucky to have me in her life. She manages well the money, but I spend it completely on gambling. Last time she even said if something happens like this, next time I'll end my life. She said it out of anger and we have big debt. We don't have the source to repay, that's the reason. Gambling is a hell, I'm experiencing it in the world. I don't know whether being in hell will be this painful.

Is this a new case or you just adding details to the OP?

Anyway, you are lucky you have a girlfriend, and you are super lucky that she can manage money well. Your only solution is to leave it to her, I mean money management. You shouldn't have access to the main balance. The max you can have is money for one day. Live like that around 6 months, or more, until you know that no one should try to make money through gambling, and you are not an exception.

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May 11, 2021, 01:38:14 PM
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Which is why people should look for help at the first signs that they are not controlling their gambling anymore, and this is relatively easy to know, gambling is supposed to be engaged in for purely entertainment purposes, so if you are not getting any fun anymore and if you are instead suffering then this is a clear sign there is something wrong with your gambling and you need to stop immediately and look for the support of your family before it is too late.
It's difficult for a person to look for the signs that they are addicted because they will be in denial, they need an external influence to intervene. This words that @Silberman says looks easy on paper but it will be another story in application.

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May 11, 2021, 01:48:49 PM
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Which is why people should look for help at the first signs that they are not controlling their gambling anymore, and this is relatively easy to know, gambling is supposed to be engaged in for purely entertainment purposes, so if you are not getting any fun anymore and if you are instead suffering then this is a clear sign there is something wrong with your gambling and you need to stop immediately and look for the support of your family before it is too late.
It's difficult for a person to look for the signs that they are addicted because they will be in denial, they need an external influence to intervene. This words that @Silberman says looks easy on paper but it will be another story in application.
Sign is different from acceptance or questioning.

We can see signs in their behavior and their Money handling.

Mostly addicted people don't wanna spend money aside from gambling. they even keep their food cheaper just for the sake of gambling.

and addicted gamblers become more greedy and selfish .
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May 11, 2021, 06:21:53 PM
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It's difficult for a person to look for the signs that they are addicted because they will be in denial, they need an external influence to intervene.
I agree that is the reason gamblers are not focusing and not at all trying to be responsible while gambling. Because they are not aware of what they are actually doing. In their view, they are all perfect with respect to their gambling and other disciplines while gambling.

So, when you're assuming something is already going perfect then you will never think about making it into in a right way. This leads to being irresponsible while gambling. The excitement of gambling is that kind of dangerous one which will make you move forward at the same time it will get you losing over initial plans. This is the reason even gamblers are responsible in their initial days, they are losing that control over the course of time.

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May 11, 2021, 07:01:30 PM
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Which is why people should look for help at the first signs that they are not controlling their gambling anymore, and this is relatively easy to know, gambling is supposed to be engaged in for purely entertainment purposes, so if you are not getting any fun anymore and if you are instead suffering then this is a clear sign there is something wrong with your gambling and you need to stop immediately and look for the support of your family before it is too late.
It's difficult for a person to look for the signs that they are addicted because they will be in denial, they need an external influence to intervene. This words that @Silberman says looks easy on paper but it will be another story in application.
In real life it is hard to follow. Personally I've experienced similar situation, and the mind will be filled with fear what will the family think. Upon this I used to hide things from friends and family. This has made me get into depression, and I never speak properly with my family. Finally slowly I got recovered myself. So getting out of gambling addiction isn't easy and it needs time and support.
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May 11, 2021, 07:17:19 PM
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It's difficult for a person to look for the signs that they are addicted because they will be in denial, they need an external influence to intervene.
I agree that is the reason gamblers are not focusing and not at all trying to be responsible while gambling. Because they are not aware of what they are actually doing. In their view, they are all perfect with respect to their gambling and other disciplines while gambling.

So, when you're assuming something is already going perfect then you will never think about making it into in a right way. This leads to being irresponsible while gambling. The excitement of gambling is that kind of dangerous one which will make you move forward at the same time it will get you losing over initial plans. This is the reason even gamblers are responsible in their initial days, they are losing that control over the course of time.

Indeed, even they are thinking that they are responsible enough to handle everything inside gambling, they are in the denial stage where they can't accept the fact that they already engaged so much.

To the point that they already exceeding from their target allocated amount to use, most gamblers  are not aware that agressiveness already in their heads.

Trying to recover or trying to seek for more luck to win over the hiuse which lead them to lose more money that expected.

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May 13, 2021, 10:11:22 AM
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Which is why people should look for help at the first signs that they are not controlling their gambling anymore, and this is relatively easy to know, gambling is supposed to be engaged in for purely entertainment purposes, so if you are not getting any fun anymore and if you are instead suffering then this is a clear sign there is something wrong with your gambling and you need to stop immediately and look for the support of your family before it is too late.
It's difficult for a person to look for the signs that they are addicted because they will be in denial, they need an external influence to intervene. This words that @Silberman says looks easy on paper but it will be another story in application.
People who got addicted will not be easy to find for the signs, but other people can see clearly the sign and if they are closest people to that person, they will advise them not to continue playing gambling in the next days. But if that person can find the excitement of playing gambling, they will not listen to them instead of playing the other gambling games as they want to get the other experience. That is why we need other people who will suggest we stop gambling before it is too late.

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May 13, 2021, 12:56:11 PM
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Mostly addicted people don't wanna spend money aside from gambling. they even keep their food cheaper just for the sake of gambling.

and addicted gamblers become more greedy and selfish .
Thye become good at lying about their finances, they will lie about their income and their savings they don't want people borrowing them and they forgot their loan, they are concentrated on the allocation on their gambling activity, lying and becoming secretive about their finances are just some of the signs that a person is very much into gambling.

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After all even the decision of seeking for others' help is still on the gambler's hand and nobody else can make this decision for him. If the addicted person doesn't accept or ask for help, nothing can be done to overcome the issue, because he is actually reluctant in doing so intimately. Or in other words, he doesn't want to get ride of addiction at all, because he knows once he stops gambling definitely he won't feel that pleasure sensation anymore. So it's a really hard decision to make and one of the main reasons so many gamblers struggle in getting free from these chains, like you mentioned.
Which is why people should look for help at the first signs that they are not controlling their gambling anymore, and this is relatively easy to know, gambling is supposed to be engaged in for purely entertainment purposes, so if you are not getting any fun anymore and if you are instead suffering then this is a clear sign there is something wrong with your gambling and you need to stop immediately and look for the support of your family before it is too late.

Sadly that won't work.

The dopamine they have or they get every time they play gambling is the one who keeps them away on getting professional help or confessing to someone that they need help regarding about their situation in gambling being addicted on it. So the outcome of most gambling addict stories always end up in the worst case scenario, like they lost everything on them before they even realized that they should stop.
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After all even the decision of seeking for others' help is still on the gambler's hand and nobody else can make this decision for him. If the addicted person doesn't accept or ask for help, nothing can be done to overcome the issue, because he is actually reluctant in doing so intimately. Or in other words, he doesn't want to get ride of addiction at all, because he knows once he stops gambling definitely he won't feel that pleasure sensation anymore. So it's a really hard decision to make and one of the main reasons so many gamblers struggle in getting free from these chains, like you mentioned.
Which is why people should look for help at the first signs that they are not controlling their gambling anymore, and this is relatively easy to know, gambling is supposed to be engaged in for purely entertainment purposes, so if you are not getting any fun anymore and if you are instead suffering then this is a clear sign there is something wrong with your gambling and you need to stop immediately and look for the support of your family before it is too late.

Sadly that won't work.

The dopamine they have or they get every time they play gambling is the one who keeps them away on getting professional help or confessing to someone that they need help regarding about their situation in gambling being addicted on it. So the outcome of most gambling addict stories always end up in the worst case scenario, like they lost everything on them before they even realized that they should stop.
Are you able to provide studies that underline your argument? I actuallly dont think that the the outcome of the most "gambling careers" is something you described. Many seeking for help before they loose everything, which is a good thing. But of course there are some gamblers that end in the worst scenario and herethe government need to set some smart regulations to prevent it.
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May 13, 2021, 09:12:26 PM
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Which is why people should look for help at the first signs that they are not controlling their gambling anymore, and this is relatively easy to know, gambling is supposed to be engaged in for purely entertainment purposes, so if you are not getting any fun anymore and if you are instead suffering then this is a clear sign there is something wrong with your gambling and you need to stop immediately and look for the support of your family before it is too late.
It's difficult for a person to look for the signs that they are addicted because they will be in denial, they need an external influence to intervene. This words that @Silberman says looks easy on paper but it will be another story in application.
It is true that an external party can tell more effectively whether a person is addicted to gambling or anything else as they do not have a clouded vision, but we know that the first step to recover from any kind of addiction is to recognize by yourself that you are addicted, someone that does not do this is never going to recover, which is why people always need to evaluate themselves and their behavior and if they see anything wrong then they need to stop their gambling in order to prevent or revert a gambling addiction, it is not easy but it is in fact the only way to avoid becoming addicted or getting out of it once you are there.
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May 13, 2021, 11:08:29 PM
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Which is why people should look for help at the first signs that they are not controlling their gambling anymore, and this is relatively easy to know, gambling is supposed to be engaged in for purely entertainment purposes, so if you are not getting any fun anymore and if you are instead suffering then this is a clear sign there is something wrong with your gambling and you need to stop immediately and look for the support of your family before it is too late.
It's difficult for a person to look for the signs that they are addicted because they will be in denial, they need an external influence to intervene. This words that @Silberman says looks easy on paper but it will be another story in application.
It is true that an external party can tell more effectively whether a person is addicted to gambling or anything else as they do not have a clouded vision, but we know that the first step to recover from any kind of addiction is to recognize by yourself that you are addicted, someone that does not do this is never going to recover, which is why people always need to evaluate themselves and their behavior and if they see anything wrong then they need to stop their gambling in order to prevent or revert a gambling addiction, it is not easy but it is in fact the only way to avoid becoming addicted or getting out of it once you are there.
Self awareness is all you need because you can eventually spot out these things easily if you do have this kind of characteristic or behavior on where you are aware on what are the things you've been dealing with.

You are a type of person who does mind on what would be the possible outcome or situation might happen if you do engage too much or in a controlled manner.
You should be mindful about your finances.

Out of control into something which would really result into unfortunate events or consequences which things that you wouldn't want to experience.

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May 15, 2021, 07:23:35 AM
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Mostly addicted people don't wanna spend money aside from gambling. they even keep their food cheaper just for the sake of gambling.

and addicted gamblers become more greedy and selfish .
Thye become good at lying about their finances, they will lie about their income and their savings they don't want people borrowing them and they forgot their loan, they are concentrated on the allocation on their gambling activity, lying and becoming secretive about their finances are just some of the signs that a person is very much into gambling.
I wonder how they will lie about his finances or addiction because they will hide about that from other people.
But no matter how they lie to other people, sooner or later, other people will know about that and guess what, that people will try to ask for more details.
But once again, if they can lie about that thing, they can make another lie instead of telling the truth.
It is hard to become a responsible gambler, but we need to do it if we do not want to become addicted to gambling.
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Mostly addicted people don't wanna spend money aside from gambling. they even keep their food cheaper just for the sake of gambling.

and addicted gamblers become more greedy and selfish .
Thye become good at lying about their finances, they will lie about their income and their savings they don't want people borrowing them and they forgot their loan, they are concentrated on the allocation on their gambling activity, lying and becoming secretive about their finances are just some of the signs that a person is very much into gambling.
I wonder how they will lie about his finances or addiction because they will hide about that from other people.
But no matter how they lie to other people, sooner or later, other people will know about that and guess what, that people will try to ask for more details.
But once again, if they can lie about that thing, they can make another lie instead of telling the truth.
It is hard to become a responsible gambler, but we need to do it if we do not want to become addicted to gambling.
This is true, because most of the time gamblers want the finance to be kept as a secret. Why such a mentality ? If we do gambling known to the people around we will be questioned, what you've earned. If we're in loss we can't share it to the people next to us or the one close to us. They might feel bad and it affects their mind. This is why most of the time gamblers prefer to keep the financial spending secret.
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Mostly addicted people don't wanna spend money aside from gambling. they even keep their food cheaper just for the sake of gambling.

and addicted gamblers become more greedy and selfish .
Thye become good at lying about their finances, they will lie about their income and their savings they don't want people borrowing them and they forgot their loan, they are concentrated on the allocation on their gambling activity, lying and becoming secretive about their finances are just some of the signs that a person is very much into gambling.
I wonder how they will lie about his finances or addiction because they will hide about that from other people.
But no matter how they lie to other people, sooner or later, other people will know about that and guess what, that people will try to ask for more details.
But once again, if they can lie about that thing, they can make another lie instead of telling the truth.
It is hard to become a responsible gambler, but we need to do it if we do not want to become addicted to gambling.
This is true, because most of the time gamblers want the finance to be kept as a secret. Why such a mentality ? If we do gambling known to the people around we will be questioned, what you've earned. If we're in loss we can't share it to the people next to us or the one close to us. They might feel bad and it affects their mind. This is why most of the time gamblers prefer to keep the financial spending secret.
I've seen people who are stingy in almost every instance but not in gambling. Those who neglect basic needs in order to set money aside for gambling are addicted and should seek help immediately. I'm only gambling with small amounts, that do not affect my monthly income, thus I have full control of what's going on.

Moreover, most gamblers are seen as addicts, (because the majority of them are) thus, people will question your earnings and point their finger at you if you reveal them that you've lost a X amount of money.

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May 16, 2021, 08:57:36 AM
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Mostly addicted people don't wanna spend money aside from gambling. they even keep their food cheaper just for the sake of gambling.

and addicted gamblers become more greedy and selfish .
Thye become good at lying about their finances, they will lie about their income and their savings they don't want people borrowing them and they forgot their loan, they are concentrated on the allocation on their gambling activity, lying and becoming secretive about their finances are just some of the signs that a person is very much into gambling.
I wonder how they will lie about his finances or addiction because they will hide about that from other people.
But no matter how they lie to other people, sooner or later, other people will know about that and guess what, that people will try to ask for more details.
But once again, if they can lie about that thing, they can make another lie instead of telling the truth.
It is hard to become a responsible gambler, but we need to do it if we do not want to become addicted to gambling.
This is true, because most of the time gamblers want the finance to be kept as a secret. Why such a mentality ? If we do gambling known to the people around we will be questioned, what you've earned. If we're in loss we can't share it to the people next to us or the one close to us. They might feel bad and it affects their mind. This is why most of the time gamblers prefer to keep the financial spending secret.
We do not want to get questioned by them because they will ask one by one of the questions and they will not stop before they get what they want.
There will be many questions in some societies that will be asked to us why we choose to gamble to make money instead of searching for the other jobs that can give you money without losing the money.
We can not tell them that we are gambling to make money because maybe they will not accept what we choose.
But no matter what it is, if you still want to play gambling, you need to be a responsible gambler and take care of your money because many gamblers lose their money.
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May 16, 2021, 09:22:02 AM
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Moreover, most gamblers are seen as addicts, (because the majority of them are) thus, people will question your earnings and point their finger at you if you reveal them that you've lost a X amount of money.

That's a huge one, and I will not agree with that. By saying most, it means that gambling is really bad and should be ban, maybe it depends on the community or country you are living in as we have different cultures and in some religions, gambling itself is a sin, hence should be avoided.

People will only question your earing from gambling if they hate gambling or they don't understand gambling, and since you know what gambling is and you love it, there's no need to explain to them.

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May 16, 2021, 01:57:02 PM
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Moreover, most gamblers are seen as addicts, (because the majority of them are) thus, people will question your earnings and point their finger at you if you reveal them that you've lost a X amount of money.

That's a huge one, and I will not agree with that. By saying most, it means that gambling is really bad and should be ban, maybe it depends on the community or country you are living in as we have different cultures and in some religions, gambling itself is a sin, hence should be avoided.

People will only question your earing from gambling if they hate gambling or they don't understand gambling, and since you know what gambling is and you love it, there's no need to explain to them.
People will hate of they find us experiencing loss, and they'll get interested if they find us making profit out of it. So, whether it is a win or loss we need to give a briefing about the consequences when people finger us associating with gambling. All gamblers aren't addict, but the one who isn't able to have control over his funds on loss/win is the true addict. Such person should get out of gambling which is good for them. This includes me. Cheesy Cheesy

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Moreover, most gamblers are seen as addicts, (because the majority of them are) thus, people will question your earnings and point their finger at you if you reveal them that you've lost a X amount of money.

That's a huge one, and I will not agree with that. By saying most, it means that gambling is really bad and should be ban, maybe it depends on the community or country you are living in as we have different cultures and in some religions, gambling itself is a sin, hence should be avoided.

People will only question your earing from gambling if they hate gambling or they don't understand gambling, and since you know what gambling is and you love it, there's no need to explain to them.
People will hate of they find us experiencing loss, and they'll get interested if they find us making profit out of it. So, whether it is a win or loss we need to give a briefing about the consequences when people finger us associating with gambling. All gamblers aren't addict, but the one who isn't able to have control over his funds on loss/win is the true addict. Such person should get out of gambling which is good for them. This includes me. Cheesy Cheesy
I'm not sure, are gamblers who can't control their funds when they win / lose addicts?
Because even beginner gamblers when winning / losing most of them will not be able to control their funds very well, maybe that is a different definition of a gambling addict from you. For me, a gambler who cannot control his funds when winning / losing is those who don't really care about calculations, even though being a gambler must at least realize a calculation in using funds in gambling is the most important thing, at least so you can have a target when to stop and continue the game. That way, with a good calculation you can become a responsible gambler, right?

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at least so you can have a target when to stop and continue the game. That way, with a good calculation you can become a responsible gambler, right?

Yep.. Maybe they can make a portfolio? I don't think all gamblers have metal like what you say. They do not have good money management, so many fail and get frustrated.

The thing that is absolutely mastered is Emotion. This means you have to have what way I have to do when I win, When should I stop, not be greedy. Not only that, when you lose, you have to know when to stop, don't lust to return the lost money.

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