Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[YuginKadoya]

As for Bobby Pacquiao, well, he tried but he can't exactly match his brothers talent in boxing so he gave it up and support Manny on his road to greatness. That's already good for the both of them because Manny had remained to carve their last name in the industry.

There's only one great fighter in a family, so Bobby has to support his brother, and I think he already enters the politics too so he has found his place with the use of their money. Influence is what Pacman was able to achieve from his success in boxing, so even if he already retired in boxing, he is still very successful with his business and with the politics.

Well, I really think Manny Pacquiao can surely retire early he establish himself as a businessman, a celebrity, a politician, and a Legend, so he can already support his family but the thing that drives him to still push himself to his limits despite his age was the glory he can give to our country, pretty much that drives Manny to be a great boxer and I think Bobby doesn't have that attribute, but I am not saying that boxing is not his passion I think the drives and mindset a boxer will give and the sacrifices Manny Pacquiao is ready to give his all,

Oh really? That's good.  O2 arena is located in London, right? I believe that place will be full packed again as the English people are really fond and excited whenever they know that one of their best boxers are having a title fight. The venue will exactly produce good revenues for the both camps especially Bob Arum. Next up, Dmitrii Bivol next year.

The Problem is Bob Arum, doesn't want a Beterbiev versus Bivol fight, because Arum doesn't want to loan Artur Baterbiev to another promoter, and it could be a dead zone and nobody will watch it, and likely Beterbiev's good record will surely be tainted by the other promoter's boxer, so right now I surely am not in a good spirit that a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight would take place, it is impossible even if many fans really want that fight, I really think Bob Arum is just stubborn enough and really a selfish one,

The famous O2 arena and if I'm not mistaken, capacity is huge so good choice of venue for this big fight. And that is true, English love their boxers, recently Tyson Fury. And even if Yarde is not that famous like Tyson, for sure they will all come and watch him fight just for the support and of course they want them to upset Beterviev. Of course, Arum knows how big the money is going to be in this fight so him and Warren are going to talk without any issues. (greedy promoters).

Maybe I was wrong in an article that I have read, but surely enough Bob Arum really likes what would be profitable for him, and nothing more, a plan to really hype this fight and and giving those words that he doesn't like Beterbiev VS Bivol to happen but regarding that Bob Arum is a wise guy he surely know what is profitable and not,

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[Baofeng]

We have a great fight at 115 lbs division. Bam Rodriguez against Srisaket Sor Rungvisai. There is no love for this weight division, but there are a lot of good and elite boxers here, namely Juan Francisco Estrada and Roman ‘Chocolatito’ Gonzalez. I guess the savvy veteran in Srisaket Sor Rungvisai is not enough for a young lion like Rodriguez. Maybe in the future we will see unification as well, but we have separate champions in Martinez (IBF), Kazuto Iota (WBO) and Estrada (WBA and Ring). Rodriguez holds the WBC.

Here is the highlights of the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPidwY7gRQo

[Maslate]

As for Bobby Pacquiao, well, he tried but he can't exactly match his brothers talent in boxing so he gave it up and support Manny on his road to greatness. That's already good for the both of them because Manny had remained to carve their last name in the industry.

There's only one great fighter in a family, so Bobby has to support his brother, and I think he already enters the politics too so he has found his place with the use of their money. Influence is what Pacman was able to achieve from his success in boxing, so even if he already retired in boxing, he is still very successful with his business and with the politics.

Well, I really think Manny Pacquiao can surely retire early he establish himself as a businessman, a celebrity, a politician, and a Legend, so he can already support his family but the thing that drives him to still push himself to his limits despite his age was the glory he can give to our country, pretty much that drives Manny to be a great boxer and I think Bobby doesn't have that attribute, but I am not saying that boxing is not his passion I think the drives and mindset a boxer will give and the sacrifices Manny Pacquiao is ready to give his all,

Well, Manny Pacquiao already retired in the boxing industry last year because he was already busy doing other works and the other reason is that he's running for president in the Philippines which eventually he lost last month. And as you stated, Manny Pacquiao is already an established business man, celebrity, a legend, a politician, and surely those things can support his family including his future grandkids.

[harizen]

Looks like John Riel Casimero doesn't like the idea of having a small bout first and climbing the rank again.

He requested to WBO that he should be assigned as a mandatory challenger for Paul Butler. That's the only way to face the current Bantamweight King Naoya Inoue who now unified the 3 bantamweight titles without fighting on any tune-up first.

I hope Casimero's request will be granted although if really granted, he should not waste his final chance to take a shot against Inoue and worked properly on his weight-related problems that keep him inactive for 2 fights already. That was alarming as it just shows that he is not fit to fight.

[agustina2]

Well, Manny Pacquiao already retired in the boxing industry last year because he was already busy doing other works and the other reason is that he's running for president in the Philippines which eventually he lost last month. And as you stated, Manny Pacquiao is already an established business man, celebrity, a legend, a politician, and surely those things can support his family including his future grandkids.

There is a lot of circulated news by some random source that Manny Pacquiao might return to the ring. I'm not sure if one of those is even close to becoming legit but for me personally, I think if Pacquiao will able to have some lots of spare time again, he will go back to ring in an exhibition match as the only reason he retires is that he seeks the presidency that requires full-time effort.

Let's wait and see.

[Kemarit]

Looks like John Riel Casimero doesn't like the idea of having a small bout first and climbing the rank again.

He requested to WBO that he should be assigned as a mandatory challenger for Paul Butler. That's the only way to face the current Bantamweight King Naoya Inoue who now unified the 3 bantamweight titles without fighting on any tune-up first.

I hope Casimero's request will be granted although if really granted, he should not waste his final chance to take a shot against Inoue and worked properly on his weight-related problems that keep him inactive for 2 fights already. That was alarming as it just shows that he is not fit to fight.

Yes, I think he has the 'right' to be the mandatory for Paul Butler because he didn't lost the belt in the ring. They stripped him, so he should still be their no. 1 and hopefully his request will be granted so that we can finally see a Butler vs Casimero fight.

But if WBO is done with him as a champion, then John Riel will have to start at the ground again and make his way up, just like what he did. But he is no longer getting any younger though and it might be late before we can see him fight Inoue.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Well, Manny Pacquiao already retired in the boxing industry last year because he was already busy doing other works and the other reason is that he's running for president in the Philippines which eventually he lost last month. And as you stated, Manny Pacquiao is already an established business man, celebrity, a legend, a politician, and surely those things can support his family including his future grandkids.

There is a lot of circulated news by some random source that Manny Pacquiao might return to the ring. I'm not sure if one of those is even close to becoming legit but for me personally, I think if Pacquiao will able to have some lots of spare time again, he will go back to ring in an exhibition match as the only reason he retires is that he seeks the presidency that requires full-time effort.

Let's wait and see.

It's says it might be Conor or even Floyd of exhibition matches maybe this year. But this is just rumor as he lost the Presidential race in the Philippines and he might be thinking of making money again through boxing as Philippine election specially running for President is costly. I'm not saying that he no longer rich, but for this super athlete, they have to keep and maintain their lifestyle and just one fight will bring half a billion to 1 billion PHP in money's pocket again.

[Jating]

We have a great fight at 115 lbs division. Bam Rodriguez against Srisaket Sor Rungvisai. There is no love for this weight division, but there are a lot of good and elite boxers here, namely Juan Francisco Estrada and Roman ‘Chocolatito’ Gonzalez. I guess the savvy veteran in Srisaket Sor Rungvisai is not enough for a young lion like Rodriguez. Maybe in the future we will see unification as well, but we have separate champions in Martinez (IBF), Kazuto Iota (WBO) and Estrada (WBA and Ring). Rodriguez holds the WBC.

Here is the highlights of the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPidwY7gRQo

If I'm not mistaken Srisaket Sor Rungvisai is already a legend in this division and maybe have beaten either Estrada or Gonzalez in their prime (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

And this Rodriguez and very young and a lot of potential for this kid. His movement and foot is amazing and those angle? Seen them when Manny Pacquiao is at his prime. He knows his foot placement so that he can hit his opponent with that kind of angle that his opponent can't see. I would say that Rodriguez has a lot of future an can conquer 108-115 lbs or even higher division.

[blockman]

There is a lot of circulated news by some random source that Manny Pacquiao might return to the ring. I'm not sure if one of those is even close to becoming legit but for me personally, I think if Pacquiao will able to have some lots of spare time again, he will go back to ring in an exhibition match as the only reason he retires is that he seeks the presidency that requires full-time effort.

Let's wait and see.

I've read of it and thought that it's like a real legit source because that rumor that spread came from that person who's a genuine source from another sport.
Maybe it's very likely that we'll get to see Pacquiao having a match again because that he just spent a lot of money from the election period and it's going to make him recover a lot if he gets into a fight.
Well, we still need a confirmation if that circulating rumor is for real or we're just fooled and made-believed by another news about his possible match as a hoax.

[Ziskinberg]

As for Bobby Pacquiao, well, he tried but he can't exactly match his brothers talent in boxing so he gave it up and support Manny on his road to greatness. That's already good for the both of them because Manny had remained to carve their last name in the industry.

There's only one great fighter in a family, so Bobby has to support his brother, and I think he already enters the politics too so he has found his place with the use of their money. Influence is what Pacman was able to achieve from his success in boxing, so even if he already retired in boxing, he is still very successful with his business and with the politics.

Well, I really think Manny Pacquiao can surely retire early he establish himself as a businessman, a celebrity, a politician, and a Legend, so he can already support his family but the thing that drives him to still push himself to his limits despite his age was the glory he can give to our country, pretty much that drives Manny to be a great boxer and I think Bobby doesn't have that attribute, but I am not saying that boxing is not his passion I think the drives and mindset a boxer will give and the sacrifices Manny Pacquiao is ready to give his all,

Bobby retired early because he is not as good as Manny and it's enough that one of the family is in boxing that is earning a lot of money to support their ambition, especially Politics. Well, let's see if Manny will come back in an exhibition fights as for sure he can still earn millions from that.

[YuginKadoya]

Well, Manny Pacquiao already retired in the boxing industry last year because he was already busy doing other works and the other reason is that he's running for president in the Philippines which eventually he lost last month. And as you stated, Manny Pacquiao is already an established business man, celebrity, a legend, a politician, and surely those things can support his family including his future grandkids.

Yup! he doesn't really need to work anymore, but as we know Manny Pacquiao is a hardworking man, so he will surely never going to sit down in his house, but I think if he is done with his political career he can sure just relax inside his house and enjoy his bonding with his family or Train his son into boxing, and right now Jimuel Pacquiao is pursuing boxing and I think this is not related with poverty anymore and these kid drive might be the passion he sees with his father Manny Pacquiao, I would surely love to see his growth if he can have a potential to surpass his father's record or do his it on his own,

Looks like John Riel Casimero doesn't like the idea of having a small bout first and climbing the rank again.

He requested to WBO that he should be assigned as a mandatory challenger for Paul Butler. That's the only way to face the current Bantamweight King Naoya Inoue who now unified the 3 bantamweight titles without fighting on any tune-up first.

I hope Casimero's request will be granted although if really granted, he should not waste his final chance to take a shot against Inoue and worked properly on his weight-related problems that keep him inactive for 2 fights already. That was alarming as it just shows that he is not fit to fight.

I truly wish the WBO would grant him his request starting at the bottom is surely impossible for John Riel Casimero right now, he is already at the peak of his age he can not restart again, he is already in his 32 years of age, but yeah he has done a terrible mistake so he should atone from breaking the rules,

But I am also hoping this will potentially not damage his career, I still wish that the WBO would comply with his request there are still many Filipino fans that expect him to fight on Butler then Naoya Inoue,

Bobby retired early because he is not as good as Manny and it's enough that one of the family is in boxing that is earning a lot of money to support their ambition, especially Politics. Well, let's see if Manny will come back in an exhibition fights as for sure he can still earn millions from that.

I really think Manny Pacquiao can still come back in an exhibition match against any given boxer or MMA fighter but I think a rematch with Floyd Mayweather is I like to surely see, but that Philly Shell defense of May Weather is something that even Pacquiao can not crack, and in my opinion, Pacquaio is not really the same not like Floyd Mayweather that still looks awesome with his slick moves, even though if he hasn't had the power anymore those Philly Shell Defense of his is pretty much one tough bastard,

[LUCKMCFLY]

I don't think that's the case here, Butler is not in the position to demand that the fight will be held in UK as I know that Inoue's camp wouldn't certainly agree with it because they also wanted to have the fight in Saitama, Japan. Same venue of the GGG-Murata and Inoue-Donaire fight, so maybe they can decide somewhere else where it's neutral for the both of them.

Butler's only choice is to call the fight and wait for his defeat because there's really nothing he can do against Inoue, would you guys believe that Butler is capable defeating Inoue for atleast by decision? I think the answer for that is NO.

Well what happens is that Inoue's technique is exquisite, besides that he has a great advantage because he knows very well the capabilities of his body, he knows to what extent he can demand himself and above all I have noticed in this boxer that he knows very well when he is in problems, making the fight merely technical and forcing the judges to go in his favor, I see this as a very complete athlete because he is very intelligent, many believe that going to box is just hitting and having the best resistance to endure, but I think that in boxing you win with intelligence, the body can be trained but here the strategy is fundamental, for that reason I think that Inoue has the advantage.

[Dave1]

Butler's only choice is to call the fight and wait for his defeat because there's really nothing he can do against Inoue, would you guys believe that Butler is capable defeating Inoue for atleast by decision? I think the answer for that is NO.

That's 100%, Butler is not even a better fighter than Donaire IMO, so there's no way he will beat Inoue, I see a KO in the early rounds. If Butler would choose to run, still the same result, it's still a Loss and the belt will be taken by Inoue for him to become an undisputed champion.

But the money both of them could have made if the fight is going to be in UK? I think that is the only bargaining power that Butler has right now.

Although Arum is a wise manager, he can call the bluff and say it should be held in Saitama wherein Inoue is comfortable. On the other hand, how can Inoue be the biggest star, he has to conquer the US so that he will get a lot of audience just like what Manny did during his heyday.

[inthelongrun]

Butler's only choice is to call the fight and wait for his defeat because there's really nothing he can do against Inoue, would you guys believe that Butler is capable defeating Inoue for atleast by decision? I think the answer for that is NO.

That's 100%, Butler is not even a better fighter than Donaire IMO, so there's no way he will beat Inoue, I see a KO in the early rounds. If Butler would choose to run, still the same result, it's still a Loss and the belt will be taken by Inoue for him to become an undisputed champion.

But the money both of them could have made if the fight is going to be in UK? I think that is the only bargaining power that Butler has right now.

Although Arum is a wise manager, he can call the bluff and say it should be held in Saitama wherein Inoue is comfortable. On the other hand, how can Inoue be the biggest star, he has to conquer the US so that he will get a lot of audience just like what Manny did during his heyday.

Inoue-Butler in the UK is also big especially in Liverpool where Butler is just near. This is possible if Butler is reluctant in unifying and Inoue and Arum really want all the belts unified.

Inoue already fought in the US before. And of course he will be back there unless Japan's sponsors and market will be bigger than the US. Let's not forget that Japan is a boxing powerhouse and they are the third biggest economy in the world after China. 

[Dart18]

I really think Manny Pacquiao can still come back in an exhibition match against any given boxer or MMA fighter but I think a rematch with Floyd Mayweather is I like to surely see, but that Philly Shell defense of May Weather is something that even Pacquiao can not crack, and in my opinion, Pacquaio is not really the same not like Floyd Mayweather that still looks awesome with his slick moves, even though if he hasn't had the power anymore those Philly Shell Defense of his is pretty much one tough bastard,

It may be because of politics thats why his game deteriorated. I am a Manny Pacquiao fan for a long time but I have to admit all of the matches that he will take now are more like making money. Just entertainment. No more goals unlike when he was pursuing to get as much belt as he could.
I could feel all the punches even just watching pay per view. Not anymore.
Just keep it safe, try not to take more injuries and get the money afterward, but it's still entertaining when I watch him, I don't know why and I don't see it being a disrespectful goal because he had done too much in the boxing industry. 

[Russlenat]

Looks like John Riel Casimero doesn't like the idea of having a small bout first and climbing the rank again.

He requested to WBO that he should be assigned as a mandatory challenger for Paul Butler. That's the only way to face the current Bantamweight King Naoya Inoue who now unified the 3 bantamweight titles without fighting on any tune-up first.

I hope Casimero's request will be granted although if really granted, he should not waste his final chance to take a shot against Inoue and worked properly on his weight-related problems that keep him inactive for 2 fights already. That was alarming as it just shows that he is not fit to fight.

Is it, now? Well, he is somehow eligible to have that request though but I don't know if WBO would grant his request and if ever his request are granted, I surely hope that he won't have the same issues again because he will be remembered for being a talkative clown and not his legacy. I assume that he found some legal way to address his weight issue because he is now requesting to be a challenger against Paul Butler.

[Maslate]

Well, Manny Pacquiao already retired in the boxing industry last year because he was already busy doing other works and the other reason is that he's running for president in the Philippines which eventually he lost last month. And as you stated, Manny Pacquiao is already an established business man, celebrity, a legend, a politician, and surely those things can support his family including his future grandkids.

There is a lot of circulated news by some random source that Manny Pacquiao might return to the ring. I'm not sure if one of those is even close to becoming legit but for me personally, I think if Pacquiao will able to have some lots of spare time again, he will go back to ring in an exhibition match as the only reason he retires is that he seeks the presidency that requires full-time effort.

Let's wait and see.

Indeed, rumors says that Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather will share a ring again to have a last dance for an exhibition fight but that remains a speculation for now as Pacquiao's camp is still resting and taking some time to bond to his family because he exhausted his time and efforts for the presidential race few months ago. Let's if that will happen or not, soon!

[Baofeng]

Well, Manny Pacquiao already retired in the boxing industry last year because he was already busy doing other works and the other reason is that he's running for president in the Philippines which eventually he lost last month. And as you stated, Manny Pacquiao is already an established business man, celebrity, a legend, a politician, and surely those things can support his family including his future grandkids.

There is a lot of circulated news by some random source that Manny Pacquiao might return to the ring. I'm not sure if one of those is even close to becoming legit but for me personally, I think if Pacquiao will able to have some lots of spare time again, he will go back to ring in an exhibition match as the only reason he retires is that he seeks the presidency that requires full-time effort.

Let's wait and see.

Indeed, rumors says that Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather will share a ring again to have a last dance for an exhibition fight but that remains a speculation for now as Pacquiao's camp is still resting and taking some time to bond to his family because he exhausted his time and efforts for the presidential race few months ago. Let's if that will happen or not, soon!

Even Amir Khan says that coach Roach reach out to him to have a Manny Pacquiao fight whether exhibition or boxing match in London.

We may have a great fight on July 30 on Showtime,

Danny Garcia vs Jose Benavidez at 154 lbs.

For sure some of you might be familiar with the name Danny Garcia as he was once a 147 lbs champions. But he lost to some of the best welterweight that time, Spence, Thurman and Porter. Now he decided to move up to 154 lbs and challenge one of the most dangerous fighter in that division. Years ago Benavidez put a good fight against Crawford.

[goinmerry]

Indeed, rumors says that Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather will share a ring again to have a last dance for an exhibition fight but that remains a speculation for now as Pacquiao's camp is still resting and taking some time to bond to his family because he exhausted his time and efforts for the presidential race few months ago. Let's if that will happen or not, soon!

I also stumbled on those rumor articles about the possible return of Manny Pacquiao to the ring. First, it's about against Mayweather. And there are many speculations that I can't remember the names of those fighters. As long as Pacquiao has no statement, that will remain a rumor.

He is currently out of the country for a vacation after losing the PH Presidential bid and as we know Manny, when he is out of the country, he is not just doing a vacation but making business. Maybe one of those is his return on the right for an exhibition match. Well, as long as it was against a big name too, he can pursue exhibition matches.

Who knows something is currently brewing behind the scene.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I'm thinking that Inoue would face Butler first before he considers moving to another division. Casimero was not in the picture for now, unfortunately but that's his reality after the incident.

He's going to face and it's going to be an easy fight, I doubt if Casimero will have a chance to fight Inoue, he cannot make the weight it's time for Casimero and for us to move forward for now unless they face each other again in the higher division, Casimero cannot keep up anymore on the division where Inoue is reigning unless there's there are circumstances that will make them face each other so let's see how it's going to be now that Donaire is out of the picture.

For the sake of getting another belt? yeah, perhaps Inoue is more willing to fight Butler then before moving up in weight and have the bragging rights of cleaning up the division. Casimero is no longer in the discussion for now. He has to work his way up again, be the number 1 contender or the mandatory and maybe that's the time that Inoue will give him the chance.

No boxer will have enough titles they will try to win as many titles as possible, which will define their skill and their legacy, Butler already announced that he wants Inoue next
Naoya Inoue's next fight: Paul Butler calls for undisputed title showdown

So in the coming weeks or months, we'll have the news of the two meeting in the ring, this fight will heavily favor Inoue as he is the better fighter than Butler.

The truth is I don't know if this is correct, I think Buttler won't be able to do anything, already with the failure that Donaire showed I think he won't have much of a chance against Inoue, now Inoue has had a great level in terms of fighting, what he wants most to do is finish all his fights by knockout, at one point many said that the one who was going to seek the knockout was going to be Donaire, others think that Buttler is weaker than Donaire, in my personal opinion I would not say that Butler is weaker or stronger, every fight it's a different story and you should take advantage of all the fights they can offer.

Seems legit, I checked it out and find another source to see if it's a real story and it turns out that Paul Butler was really calling Inoue in the past weeks for the title of an undisputed bantamweight.
Paul Butler Desperately Wants To Fight Naoya Inoue

Butler was lying on his own teeth because he quite knew that Inoue have changed into a real monster and even Donaire admit that he cannot react well as he cannot follow Inoue's punches. Butler just wanted to be the first one to call about the fight to somehow make a hype in his name while trying to sell the fight in advance as he also know that their fight is inevitable because he have the WBO belt.

Perhaps this is just about the money that Butler can get from this fight. And it's also interesting if one of his demands will be that the fight be held in UK?

Inoue traveling to UK and beat their champion, unify the bantamweight division. But we shall see what Butler's promotion are going to do. I think they will rather have him face Casimero first. And if ever he win that, then book a fight with Inoue.

The truth is I don't see that Butler has enough level to make a fight against Inoue, the other thing is if Inoue accepts it, we all know very well Inoue's style, if Inoue in that case accepts the fight and if he wins Once with a knockout, Butler's reputation will be very low, how could he get it back? The truth is that Butler is good for me, but he needs more preparation. Instead, I would look for fights with less complicated rivals who seem more likely to win, and not leave once and for all because of a big man like Inoue. Butler must reap more wins to that the fans ask for more fights, and the business model is there in having more fights equals more money.