Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Fredomago]

Every time any of the Paul brothers will have a match, most of those matches are favorable to them. We don't know if that's part of the contract or script that has been made.
But with money that they're including to it for those fighters to agree on their matches, they're paid well and this match is nothing to them but just a free lunch and quick part time job.

No, people are only rooting for Jake Paul, not Logan Paul. This because Jake Paul have a clean record and undefeated, while Logan Paul already lose against KSI on the professional record, not win against Mayweather on the exhibition fight and draw against KSI on the amateur fight. If Logan Paul will have another fight, I believe he will become underdog since most people will think he will lose or draw.

As long as Jake Paul is fight against unexperienced boxer, old people or coach, Jake Paul will win 100% lol.

Addition to that, as long as Jake Paul and his camp initiate the exhibition his chance of winning is high, though I go with your point it's Jake Paul who set it up favorable to him but in terms of making money, both are good in picking the fighters to fight with, they keep sucking fans money from the ticket sales and viewers, there's no stopping as they really assessing the potential before calling or scheduling the fight.

Well setup and in returned they will get a decent amount of paychecks.

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[mirakal]

Every time any of the Paul brothers will have a match, most of those matches are favorable to them. We don't know if that's part of the contract or script that has been made.
But with money that they're including to it for those fighters to agree on their matches, they're paid well and this match is nothing to them but just a free lunch and quick part time job.

No, people are only rooting for Jake Paul, not Logan Paul. This because Jake Paul have a clean record and undefeated, while Logan Paul already lose against KSI on the professional record, not win against Mayweather on the exhibition fight and draw against KSI on the amateur fight. If Logan Paul will have another fight, I believe he will become underdog since most people will think he will lose or draw.

As long as Jake Paul is fight against unexperienced boxer, old people or coach, Jake Paul will win 100% lol.

Addition to that, as long as Jake Paul and his camp initiate the exhibition his chance of winning is high, though I go with your point it's Jake Paul who set it up favorable to him but in terms of making money, both are good in picking the fighters to fight with, they keep sucking fans money from the ticket sales and viewers, there's no stopping as they really assessing the potential before calling or scheduling the fight.

He will continue to be undefeated because he is very smart in choosing his opponent. Maybe that's also the reason why he will not fight Mayweather because Mayweather will not allow to lose in an exhibition fight,  even after retirement, he still wants to keep his undefeated record.

May I know how much they made on that fight?
Well setup and in returned they will get a decent amount of paychecks.

[YuginKadoya]

I also observe that, knowing Silva from UFC he is more on defense and will counter back once he see good opportunity, but today he don't have that same strategy or barrowing your words, he is not on his self I guess.

Yes, He isn't the usual Silva, in my opinion, he was fighting but in a manner where he is not himself, watching the fight surely crashed my heart, I'd never imagined Silva in this state surely he is 47 years old now and this is surely the ring rust that everyone is talking about and for Anderson Silva, it really hit him very very hard,

Probably Silva had known that he won't win no matter how good his performance is since the judge will definitely favor Paul.  As a result Paul indeed won via unanimous decision but it was labeled controversial by some sports site since they had it scored in favor of Silva with Paul only taking 2 rounds (including the 8th round knock out)  You can read more about the unofficial scoring of that site in this post

In my opinion, Silva definitely is losing the fight he was hitting Jake Paul in the first round but Jake Paul can really take the beating like it was nothing, for me, there are no controversial what so ever like I have said in my previous post if this fight ends up in a draw I will be the 1st one to get really mad at the Paul Brother and even Silva for agreeing in this fight in the 1st place, but if it ends up in whoever wins it, I will be glad it did, and it did, and watching the fight Anderson Silva is not the same anymore, call it to ring rust but it surely hit him very hard, he is not the usual Anderson Silva, I think he should not fight anymore if he still wants to fight then fight in an MMA playing field and fight known boxer maybe there he can have an advantage, because of kicks and takedowns,

[yazher]

Addition to that, as long as Jake Paul and his camp initiate the exhibition his chance of winning is high, though I go with your point it's Jake Paul who set it up favorable to him but in terms of making money, both are good in picking the fighters to fight with, they keep sucking fans money from the ticket sales and viewers, there's no stopping as they really assessing the potential before calling or scheduling the fight.

Well setup and in returned they will get a decent amount of paychecks.

Yeah! It's weird but they making lots of money here due to the demand of the crowd which is increasing every new fight. What I mean by that, is they are inviting new audience whenever there is a new fight. That's why we see more veterans boxers are doing the same thing right now. Just look at Manny Pacquiao, who is he fighting now?

[Vaculin]

Not just a former UFC champ but also into this sport, Silva is enjoying switching into a boxing ring, and now after that sold out tickets
it is expected to see him performing to impress more fans.

We will see how both celebrity fighters will engage during the fight. What I mean by calling them celebrities is because they are not
really known as a pro fighter for this sport, but they gain interest from the fans.

Looking to see real toe-to-toe engagement, exchanges of real punches that brings the hype for this event.

Is there any Jake Paul's fan in this forum? I think everyone is really hate him and want he to fight with a prime boxer, just like on his social medias. Maybe his fans is only his family, promoters and team since Paul can make huge amount money by just fighting a weak or unexperienced boxer.

I've said on the other thread if I will bet Paul, but the reason is not because I'm a Jake Paul fan, but we already know Paul is 99% will win.

Not a fan either but you really have to give it to the Paul brothers on how they build up themselves in the last 2 years in the world of exhibition matches that now they have own boxing company and handling millions of dollars every fight.

And they owe it to their fans (I also doubt that they have one here because members here are purely for boxing), so in any case it's their fans that bring money to them.

Same here, I'm not a fan of this Paul Brothers as well and haven't had an interesting encounter that made me excited to watch them in one of their fights, I didn't even watched his older brother, Logan, we he fought with Mayweather as both of them only wanted the money and giving some entertainment to their fans is the least of their goals.

There might be fans of Logan and Jake here but I guess they are just afraid to come out because they probably knew they will just get themselves embarrassed. Just saying

Probably, but they can show their face, there is nothing wrong about it. But for sure they could be some heat on them or as you put it, could be embarrassment for them because we don't like or not a fan of this exhibition match that Jake Paul and his brother made famous for in the last 2 years.

But if they are happy and making huge money, they why not? even the likes of Floyd and even Manny Pacquiao has a exhibition fight in December. So this hype will continue whether we are a fan of this exhibition match or not.

Of course there's nothing wrong about that but I doubt they will go out and show their faces proudly, they aren't that courageous for sure. But these days, my perspective for Jake Paul has changed when he announced that he and Silva will establish the "United Fighters Association" dedicated to help fighters who doesn't receive the right cut. But that is if he will be the winner of this fight and fortunately enough, Jake Paul has won the fight against his own idol.

[Slow death]

But with money that they're including to it for those fighters to agree on their matches, they're paid well and this match is nothing to them but just a free lunch and quick part time job.

I agree with you, these exhibition fights are making money for the fighters, organizers and many people involved in the organization of the event, and as they don't even fight seriously it becomes easy money that everyone is earning, even fighters who are already old and who should retire are still in the exhibition fights, one day we will still see 60 year old guys fighting in these exhibition fights and worse we will see these 60 year old guys fighting and getting sick with back pain

As long as Jake Paul is fight against unexperienced boxer, old people or coach, Jake Paul will win 100% lol.

 

I also noticed that, that fight of his against Anderson Silva he was clearly the anticipated winner, I say that because their age difference was very big, Anderson Silva is old, Jake Paul after the victory criticized Dana White, Jake Paul didn't give up criticizing UFC salaries, he says they are low salaries and that athletes need health insurance

[Fredomago]

I also observe that, knowing Silva from UFC he is more on defense and will counter back once he see good opportunity, but today he don't have that same strategy or barrowing your words, he is not on his self I guess.

Yes, He isn't the usual Silva, in my opinion, he was fighting but in a manner where he is not himself, watching the fight surely crashed my heart, I'd never imagined Silva in this state surely he is 47 years old now and this is surely the ring rust that everyone is talking about and for Anderson Silva, it really hit him very very hard,

I feel the same and surviving 8 solid rounds with an aggressive opponent will really give him that tough and exhaust feelings, the fighter mentality was there but it might be the body language who can't follow what his mind is directing, age and reflex affects him during the fight as per my own take on this fight.

Addition to that, as long as Jake Paul and his camp initiate the exhibition his chance of winning is high, though I go with your point it's Jake Paul who set it up favorable to him but in terms of making money, both are good in picking the fighters to fight with, they keep sucking fans money from the ticket sales and viewers, there's no stopping as they really assessing the potential before calling or scheduling the fight.

Well setup and in returned they will get a decent amount of paychecks.

Yeah! It's weird but they making lots of money here due to the demand of the crowd which is increasing every new fight. What I mean by that, is they are inviting new audience whenever there is a new fight. That's why we see more veterans boxers are doing the same thing right now. Just look at Manny Pacquiao, who is he fighting now?

Right, Manny is also showing his interest with exhibition and I will not be surprised if one of the Paul Bro will use that fame to call for Manny inside the ring. Money will speak eventually, so let's wait for it.

[blockman]

Every time any of the Paul brothers will have a match, most of those matches are favorable to them. We don't know if that's part of the contract or script that has been made.
But with money that they're including to it for those fighters to agree on their matches, they're paid well and this match is nothing to them but just a free lunch and quick part time job.

No, people are only rooting for Jake Paul, not Logan Paul. This because Jake Paul have a clean record and undefeated, while Logan Paul already lose against KSI on the professional record, not win against Mayweather on the exhibition fight and draw against KSI on the amateur fight. If Logan Paul will have another fight, I believe he will become underdog since most people will think he will lose or draw.

As long as Jake Paul is fight against unexperienced boxer, old people or coach, Jake Paul will win 100% lol.

Hype will always be there for these brothers and that's why easy money on them on this recent one against Silva, I've seen somewhere that the split of money is like 65/35 and 65 was for Jake and 35 for Silva. This is the type of boxing that they want, to challenge those unreal boxers but professionals in other fighting sports.

But with money that they're including to it for those fighters to agree on their matches, they're paid well and this match is nothing to them but just a free lunch and quick part time job.

I agree with you, these exhibition fights are making money for the fighters, organizers and many people involved in the organization of the event, and as they don't even fight seriously it becomes easy money that everyone is earning, even fighters who are already old and who should retire are still in the exhibition fights, one day we will still see 60 year old guys fighting in these exhibition fights and worse we will see these 60 year old guys fighting and getting sick with back pain

That will happen for sure, when retire fighters that don't have money to make. They will invite them for such fights and exhibitions and offer them decent money just for that day and sure no one will decline on that when you need money.

[harizen]

Yeah! It's weird but they making lots of money here due to the demand of the crowd which is increasing every new fight. What I mean by that, is they are inviting new audience whenever there is a new fight. That's why we see more veterans boxers are doing the same thing right now. Just look at Manny Pacquiao, who is he fighting now?

One reason is, there are people who didn't able to witness some of the popular boxers before during their active days that's why exhibition matches are the only way for these people to see again these Legends fighting in the ring regardless of the event or how sh*t the reason is why that fight was held.

Referring to Jake Paul, he can really make decent money on his future fights because there are people who want to witness his 1st lose not realizing they are just contributing to the revenue of that said match. He can still save his legacy though by fighting a caliber real boxer on his level.

[YuginKadoya]

Yeah! It's weird but they making lots of money here due to the demand of the crowd which is increasing every new fight. What I mean by that, is they are inviting new audience whenever there is a new fight. That's why we see more veterans boxers are doing the same thing right now. Just look at Manny Pacquiao, who is he fighting now?

For me, it's kind of weird at 1st, seeing a retired boxer taking a Youtuber isn't weird enough, but after seeing so many Exhibition matches that some are good enough and what is the purpose of it for a retired boxer, and maybe the logging for them that missing while fighting inside the ring, I kind of understand it all, but making fixed and sometimes the weird part is what some people are loving to see, but surely not all have the same taste, but there are surely just targeted consumers that want to watch something like that,

I feel the same and surviving 8 solid rounds with an aggressive opponent will really give him that tough and exhaust feelings, the fighter mentality was there but it might be the body language who can't follow what his mind is directing, age and reflex affects him during the fight as per my own take on this fight.

Well, right now Anderson Silva is way past his prime days, but taking on Jake Paul would surely be required a lot of endurance and he never failed in providing it for us, but the speed and power were not there anymore, but knowing Silva as an MMA fighter he still has the usual clinch to evade Paul on the corner, to take the barrage punch of Jake Paul, I think this is very notable for Silva in using some of his advantages, but it was not really enough against Jake Paul,

[chaser15]

Right, Manny is also showing his interest with exhibition and I will not be surprised if one of the Paul Bro will use that fame to call for Manny inside the ring. Money will speak eventually, so let's wait for it.

Nah. the Paul brothers know and understand the business. They know that Manny Pacquiao can still fight dangerously.

They won't risks challenging him as that will result in their 1st loss.

But since it's an exhibition, maybe there will be some script but I doubt Manny will follow the terms about allowing them to win.

[Jawhead999]

Nah. the Paul brothers know and understand the business. They know that Manny Pacquiao can still fight dangerously.

They won't risks challenging him as that will result in their 1st loss.

But since it's an exhibition, maybe there will be some script but I doubt Manny will follow the terms about allowing them to win.

Most of the exhibition fight are doesn't have any judges, so in order to win one of them need to knock out their opponent. I think Manny will accept to fight like this rule, if both of them can't knock out their opponent, the fight will not scored, it's not a draw too. This will become a win-win situation for both of them, also it's not possible for Manny Pacquiao fight with Jake Paul on the professional record. Pacquiao is currently at Welterweight division which is 147 pounds while Jake Paul is currently at Light heavyweight division which is 175 pounds.

[btc_angela]

Right, Manny is also showing his interest with exhibition and I will not be surprised if one of the Paul Bro will use that fame to call for Manny inside the ring. Money will speak eventually, so let's wait for it.

Nah. the Paul brothers know and understand the business. They know that Manny Pacquiao can still fight dangerously.

They won't risks challenging him as that will result in their 1st loss.

But since it's an exhibition, maybe there will be some script but I doubt Manny will follow the terms about allowing them to win.

Depends though, what kind of contract they are going to sit down and talk and probably what rules, are there judges or will it be a complete exhibition fight with no winners. On the other hard, Jake Paul had a good fight with Anderson and they have judges to score the fight.

But the main thing here is that Manny is too small, his fighting weight is around 147 lbs, while Jake Paul is fighting on Cruiserweight so that is a big disparity as well.

And as you have pointed out, they are in the business of it, so they won't risk having his 1st loss as the hype train might derailed by Manny Pacquiao.

[YuginKadoya]

Nah. the Paul brothers know and understand the business. They know that Manny Pacquiao can still fight dangerously.

They won't risks challenging him as that will result in their 1st loss.

But since it's an exhibition, maybe there will be some script but I doubt Manny will follow the terms about allowing them to win.

Agree! I doubt Manny Pacquiao will agree in getting a scripted fight that Mayweather would surely want because Floyd Mayweather would just be after the money, while Manny Pacquiao is still after the honor, and the principle of why he was fighting inside the ring, even though he can surely get a large sum of money from this, I think he doesn't want to be in a bad position and have a bad reputation to the public, because at the end of the day he is still a politician after all,

Depends though, what kind of contract they are going to sit down and talk and probably what rules, are there judges or will it be a complete exhibition fight with no winners. On the other hard, Jake Paul had a good fight with Anderson and they have judges to score the fight.

But the main thing here is that Manny is too small, his fighting weight is around 147 lbs, while Jake Paul is fighting on Cruiserweight so that is a big disparity as well.

And as you have pointed out, they are in the business of it, so they won't risk having his 1st loss as the hype train might derailed by Manny Pacquiao.

Yup! it will surely depend on what kind of rule they want to have, in the Logan Paul VS Floyd Mayweather fight it was non-scored, but if they agreed on a scored fight I think they can easily provide judges to score the fight, like In all Jake Paul fights it was all Scored meaning there are included judges, well it will depend on the fighters on what kind of Exhibition match they would want,

[Reid]

I have no problem with creating a thread like this, but for me, I want a dedicated discussion on a particular boxing match so we can dwell on the strength and weaknesses of each fighter and give hints or tips for those who like to bet on that particular fight, the flow of discussion will always be on-topic about one particular match.

I don't also buy the idea of using just a single thrend for boxing  because, I would prefer to see discussion about a particular match and fighters addressed and tackled seperately, so one can truly know in expectations what a match would be.
On the other hand, it is nice as attention wouldn't be channed on just a single match as other matches wuld be discusssed and one could possibly get hints about the matches.

There are just too many matches out there and it might fill the gambling discussion thread with full of boxing matches.
I think this thread just serves as an update if there will be a fight somewhere. Pick your own poison type of discussion then reply to those you like only.

Nah. the Paul brothers know and understand the business. They know that Manny Pacquiao can still fight dangerously.

They won't risks challenging him as that will result in their 1st loss.

But since it's an exhibition, maybe there will be some script but I doubt Manny will follow the terms about allowing them to win.

I doubt that too. Enough of this matches that would ruin the names of known boxers. A lot of kids are looking up to them and they don't want their hero's name to be ruined just because of an exhibition match. What if something wrong will happen while they are fighting for entertainment purpose?

[stadus]

Every time any of the Paul brothers will have a match, most of those matches are favorable to them. We don't know if that's part of the contract or script that has been made.
But with money that they're including to it for those fighters to agree on their matches, they're paid well and this match is nothing to them but just a free lunch and quick part time job.

No, people are only rooting for Jake Paul, not Logan Paul. This because Jake Paul have a clean record and undefeated, while Logan Paul already lose against KSI on the professional record, not win against Mayweather on the exhibition fight and draw against KSI on the amateur fight. If Logan Paul will have another fight, I believe he will become underdog since most people will think he will lose or draw.

As long as Jake Paul is fight against unexperienced boxer, old people or coach, Jake Paul will win 100% lol.

Forget about his older brother Logan Paul because he doesn't suit well in the world of boxing as he puts the money first before the entertainment and it's clear enough that he is just after the money that is why Floyd Mayweather accepted his challenge because Floyd knows that it will benefit him well as Logan here has a huge fan base and he took that advantage. But Jake here is somehow different from Logan, currently he is just struggling to fight with real boxers as couldn't find a perfect match yet in heavyweight that is why he is left to fight with the retired fighters from UFC, but I don't doubt that Jake's day will come soon.

[Yaunfitda]

Every time any of the Paul brothers will have a match, most of those matches are favorable to them. We don't know if that's part of the contract or script that has been made.
But with money that they're including to it for those fighters to agree on their matches, they're paid well and this match is nothing to them but just a free lunch and quick part time job.

No, people are only rooting for Jake Paul, not Logan Paul. This because Jake Paul have a clean record and undefeated, while Logan Paul already lose against KSI on the professional record, not win against Mayweather on the exhibition fight and draw against KSI on the amateur fight. If Logan Paul will have another fight, I believe he will become underdog since most people will think he will lose or draw.

As long as Jake Paul is fight against unexperienced boxer, old people or coach, Jake Paul will win 100% lol.

Forget about his older brother Logan Paul because he doesn't suit well in the world of boxing as he puts the money first before the entertainment and it's clear enough that he is just after the money that is why Floyd Mayweather accepted his challenge because Floyd knows that it will benefit him well as Logan here has a huge fan base and he took that advantage. But Jake here is somehow different from Logan, currently he is just struggling to fight with real boxers as couldn't find a perfect match yet in heavyweight that is why he is left to fight with the retired fighters from UFC, but I don't doubt that Jake's day will come soon.

The keyword is 'they have a huge fan based'. So that is enough for boxers like Floyd or any ex-boxer or ex-MMA to have a fight with either brother because they can put fans in the arena and watch their PPV, in short they are the cash cow now of exhibitions matches.

And as long as they are winning and making tons of money, regardless of what division Jake Paul with fight, cw to hw, he will always find a dance partner to make easy money for both of them (just like what Anderson Silva did).

[Fredomago]

Right, Manny is also showing his interest with exhibition and I will not be surprised if one of the Paul Bro will use that fame to call for Manny inside the ring. Money will speak eventually, so let's wait for it.

Nah. the Paul brothers know and understand the business. They know that Manny Pacquiao can still fight dangerously.

They won't risks challenging him as that will result in their 1st loss.

But since it's an exhibition, maybe there will be some script but I doubt Manny will follow the terms about allowing them to win.

Depends though, what kind of contract they are going to sit down and talk and probably what rules, are there judges or will it be a complete exhibition fight with no winners. On the other hard, Jake Paul had a good fight with Anderson and they have judges to score the fight.

But the main thing here is that Manny is too small, his fighting weight is around 147 lbs, while Jake Paul is fighting on Cruiserweight so that is a big disparity as well.

And as you have pointed out, they are in the business of it, so they won't risk having his 1st loss as the hype train might derailed by Manny Pacquiao.

Maybe yes or maybe you are right, they won't be risking the hype right away. Challenging Pacquiao might ruin the hype of his name since even he's that big, but Pacquiao's quickness can put him down. But scripts always depend on how they will discuss the deal. If the price is right, maybe it will speak more than anything.

Knowing it's Pacquiao and the wide audiences that he has or I mean the network that he has from this sport.

Paul can take that and hype it to bring them together inside the ring.

[YuginKadoya]

Dmitry Bivol is having his match this November 3 and no one is making any discussion about it, we will be having 2 Pinoy boxers Jerald Paclar and John Ordonio, and the son of Ricky Hatton, Campbell Hatton will fight in one of the Preliminary cards here is the event information

Bivol vs. Ramirez: Champion Series

Saturday 11.05.2022
Venue: Etihad Arena
Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates



MAIN EVENT

Dmitry Bivol VS Zurdo Ramirez

MAIN CARD

Chantelle Cameron VS Jessica McCaskill
Shavkatdzhon Rakhimov VS Zelfa Barrett
Galal Yafai VS Gohan Rodriguez
Khalid Yafai VS Jerald Paclar
Aqib Fiaz VS Diego Valtierra

PRELIMINARY CARD

Campbell Hatton VS Denis Bartos
Majid Al-Naqbi VS John Ordonio

All information was from TAPOLOGY

[Kemarit]

^^ Good to hear that Filipino boxers are going to be included in this fight.

But as far as the undercard, I'm not familiar with the majority of the names. But who knows, the future is already in some of this boxers.

And with that, I guess everyone is looking for the main card between Bivol and Ramirez. Odds still favour Bivol the last time I checked so maybe gamblers will go and bet on him, whether decision or knockout win.