Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[Branko]

Then again, maybe its all show arranged by them 2 to root out and get rid of
those that come out of hiding to support "coup"

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[nutildah]

Then again, maybe its all show arranged by them 2 to root out and get rid of
those that come out of hiding to support "coup"

[tvbcof]

Then again, maybe its all show arranged by them 2 to root out and get rid of
those that come out of hiding to support "coup"

Looks like the Russians saw how easily the Ziocons gas-lit most of the world's 'stand-with-Ukraine' retard brigades and thought they would have a little fun themselves.  Anyone who falls for the baloney really is a world class chump.

Quick, NATO, Now's your chance!!!  Go! Go! Go!

...or at least don't let up the extreme pressure (lol) that the 'Greatest Counter-offensive' is apply to them Rooskies...

[Lucius]

Those days when your own chef wants to dethrone you

In the meantime...

[tvbcof]

Anyone who falls for the baloney really is a world class chump.

Your entire online persona revolves around convincing yourself you haven't fallen head over heels for a different flavor of baloney.

Is that so?  Actually I very often question what the Russian deep-state and what the general 'Govern - Ment_ality' are up to and warn that there are a lot of things which stink.  The Soviets were way ahead in terms of psy-ops for most of the cold war and used them mercielessly against their own.  It is the basis for Communism in fact...more-so than even the West's present form of 'Democracy'.

Even though I mentioned it a few days ago, I'll do it again for your benefit:  What are the chances that Russia rid itself of the Soviet-era psychological engineers since Putin's time even pretending that there was a broad political desire to do so?  I would say zero.  Putin himself was built up via cult-of-personality methods of the same basic type as Trump, Fauci, etc.

[montaga]

Prigozhin been posting videos for years now with his whereabouts and somehow he is still alive.

What the yippeeyahoo are those loonies doing there? Having a pick-nick out in the open or is the checked floor magnetic?
If he misbehaves he will feel the wrath of the local babushkas, they will deal with him.

The other day in the local mall i had the chance to be any place i wanted.

[LTU_btc]

Wagner already went through Lipetsk oblast, Tula oblast and some sources says that they already reached Moscow oblast, though, no comfirmation about it yet. What it looks strange that they are moving without any resistance. Where is glorious Russian army, why we don't see them? So far we mainly saw Rosgvardia who only can fight against peaceful protests, police and some KAMAZ trucks and tractors blocking roads.
Everything looks so strange that I can't believe that's really happening. One thought can't leave my mind that whole this thing can be staged, but why they would need it, I have no idea.
Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.

[montaga]

Wagner already went through Lipetsk oblast, Tula oblast and some sources says that they already reached Moscow oblast, though, no comfirmation about it yet. What it looks strange that they are moving without any resistance. Where is glorious Russian army, why we don't see them? So far we mainly saw Rosgvardia who only can fight against peaceful protests, police and some KAMAZ trucks and tractors blocking roads.
Everything looks so strange that I can't believe that's really happening. One thought can't leave my mind that whole this thing can be staged, but why they would need it, I have no idea.
Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.

Are you claiming Chechnya attacking Russia now and they are on the verge of taking Moscow?
Wagner is made up of private mercenary's from around the world and a lot of them are Chechen.
Can you please slow down, i need to breath

[suchmoon]

They seem also to be on their way to Moscow.

Moscow in 3 days?

[Branko]

Wagner already went through Lipetsk oblast, Tula oblast and some sources says that they already reached Moscow oblast, though, no comfirmation about it yet. What it looks strange that they are moving without any resistance. Where is glorious Russian army, why we don't see them? So far we mainly saw Rosgvardia who only can fight against peaceful protests, police and some KAMAZ trucks and tractors blocking roads.
Everything looks so strange that I can't believe that's really happening. One thought can't leave my mind that whole this thing can be staged, but why they would need it, I have no idea.
Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.

Really? Want to bet that its just show and Prigozhin will back off soon?

[Synchronice]

Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.

No, Russian army is actually 3rd army in Russia, the first one is Wagner, the 2nd one is Kadyrovites and Russian Army is the 3rd one.

Really? Want to bet that its just show and Prigozhin will back off soon?

I bet that that is just a show but why was that necessary? At some point it damaged Putin's reputation and Prigozhin looks like a pussy too. What was the point

[suchmoon]

Really? Want to bet that its just show and Prigozhin will back off soon?

Too late, Putin already caved in, in his usual chickenshit manner with help from the potato fuhrer.

Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted Aleksandr Lukashenko’s proposal on stopping the advance of Wagner’s armed units in Russia’s territory and on further steps meant to deescalate tensions.

At present an absolutely advantageous and acceptable variant to defuse the situation is available, including safety guarantees for fighters of the private military company Wagner.

Still remains to be seen if Prigozhin gets Shoigu's head in exchange.

[be.open]

Really? Want to bet that its just show and Prigozhin will back off soon?

I bet that that is just a show but why was that necessary? At some point it damaged Putin's reputation and Prigozhin looks like a pussy too. What was the point

According to one version, it was an express teleportation of 25,000 bayonets with armored vehicles from the Southern Front along the four-lane M4 highway beyond Voronezh, and from there to Kharkov. But I think there should be versions and more interesting.

[Branko]

I bet that that is just a show but why was that necessary? At some point it damaged Putin's reputation and Prigozhin looks like a pussy too. What was the point

To expose and arrest/eliminate those close to Putin that hurried to support "coup"?

[paxmao]

Really? Want to bet that its just show and Prigozhin will back off soon?

I bet that that is just a show but why was that necessary? At some point it damaged Putin's reputation and Prigozhin looks like a pussy too. What was the point

According to one version, it was an express teleportation of 25,000 bayonets with armored vehicles from the Southern Front along the four-lane M4 highway beyond Voronezh, and from there to Kharkov. But I think there should be versions and more interesting.

Oh yes.. much more interesting versions. But no nee to bet. Putin pays Wagner so all back to normal. Except that Wagner will be going for the same again and again ...

They seem also to be on their way to Moscow.

Moscow in 3 days?

There is some information stupid enough to be truth: Roads blocked by traffic to prevent it!

Prigozhin been posting videos for years now with his whereabouts and somehow he is still alive.

What the yippeeyahoo are those loonies doing there? Having a pick-nick out in the open or is the checked floor magnetic?
If he misbehaves he will feel the wrath of the local babushkas, they will deal with him.

The other day in the local mall i had the chance to be any place i wanted.

That tank gonna get a parking ticket.

Then again, maybe its all show arranged by them 2 to root out and get rid of
those that come out of hiding to support "coup"

Keep dreaming. This is about Wagner not getting funds and being required to be part of the army. It happened in the Roman Republic quite a few times.

[BADecker]

^^^ You constantly miss the most important parts of what you talk about. Look here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456407.msg62456285#msg62456285 and then at the article below.


The only relevant question is why does Putin permit the Ukraine conflict to continue?


https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/06/23/the-only-relevant-question-is-why-does-putin-permit-the-ukraine-conflict-to-continue/
Nothing reported in the Western media is accurate.  Consider this BBC report from Johnson's Russia List today June 23, 2023:

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BBC Monitoring

Ukraine says 680 Russian troops killed in past 24 hours

Some 680 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine over the past 24 hours, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said on Facebook on 23 June.

This brings Russia's estimated total losses since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine to around 223,330 personnel.

Russia's other total approximate losses include 4,017 (+four over the past 24 hours) tanks, 7,798 (+15) armoured fighting vehicles, 3,985 (+44) artillery systems, 617 MRLS, 379 (+three) air defence systems, 314 warplanes, 307 helicopters, 3,447 (+nine) UAVs, 1,214 cruise missiles, 18 warships/boats, 6,708 (+30) vehicles and fuel tankers, and 545 (+six) pieces of special equipment, the update reads.

There is not one word of truth in this report.
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[LTU_btc]

So, seems that circus is over, Prigozhin ordered Wagner convoy to turn back and return to their camps. Lukashenko says that Prigozhin accepted his proposal after some negotiations, criminal case against Prigozhin also was dropped.
So, does it means that Putin reached agreement with terrorists and things will go on like nothing didn't happned. I just remind that during this rebellion Russian army lost six helicopters, transport plane and somehwere 10-15 troops.
Probably this photo summarizes things that happened in last 24 hours best:

BTW seems that this my post didn't aged badly and now it really looks like staged shit:

I have no idea how everything will end, maybe this story will have boring outcome, but my popcorn is ready.

Are you claiming Chechnya attacking Russia now and they are on the verge of taking Moscow?
Wagner is made up of private mercenary's from around the world and a lot of them are Chechen.
Can you please slow down, i need to breath

What!? Are you not confusing something. Where did you got that there is lot Chechens in Wagner group. BTW, while Wagner almost reached Moscow, chechen Kadyrovites who was ready to fight with Wagner still didn't reached Rostov.

Back to war in Ukraine, it looks that Ukraine for the first time so far liberated territory that was occupied since 2014, it happened nearby to Krasnohorivka:
https://tvpworld.com/70807948/ukrainian-forces-liberate-near-donetsk-regions-occupied-since-2014

[Hispo]

I wonder whether the Ukrainian army will take advantage of this unexpected turn of events to further reclaim territory in the east.
In my opinion, amidst the chaos, confusion and possibly Putin being hidden within a super bunker, busy on not getting removed from the Kremlin represented and unprecedented opportunity for the defenders to break lines.

Unless, the Ukrainian army is waiting to see how many Wagner mercenaries end up joining their lines or escape towards Kiev.
Whether he decides to threaten Putin and the military command or nor, the trust of Putin and the image he wanted to give for the rest of the world to see is already undermined with these news.  

[montaga]

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What!? Are you not confusing something. Where did you got that there is lot Chechens in Wagner group. BTW, while Wagner almost reached Moscow, chechen Kadyrovites who was ready to fight with Wagner still didn't reached Rostov.

Wagner is a private military company and paychecks come form parent company of Russia. It is made up from a network of desperadoes (mercenaries). You will find people risking life for some loose change from just about any place Chechen, Abkhazian, South Ossetian and even prison.
It is lights out if Paychecks are cancelled.

[be.open]

So, seems that circus is over, Prigozhin ordered Wagner convoy to turn back and return to their camps. Lukashenko says that Prigozhin accepted his proposal after some negotiations, criminal case against Prigozhin also was dropped.
So, does it means that Putin reached agreement with terrorists and things will go on like nothing didn't happned. I just remind that during this rebellion Russian army lost six helicopters, transport plane and somehwere 10-15 troops.
Probably this photo summarizes things that happened in last 24 hours best:

BTW seems that this my post didn't aged badly and now it really looks like staged shit:

I have no idea how everything will end, maybe this story will have boring outcome, but my popcorn is ready.

I hope you appreciated the quality and scale of this performance. It turns out that in Russia they are also able to carry out complex and multi-pass psychological operations, and not on the Internet, but in the scenery of the real world. It remains to understand the purpose of this whole circus, during which more Russian planes and helicopters were shot down than Ukraine shot down from the start of the counteroffensive (it was easy, because Ukraine shot down nothing from the start of the counteroffensive).

I think that the main purpose of this performance was to identify a high-ranking mole in the Russian General Staff.