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February 17, 2024, 11:47:32 PM
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Yeah, too bad they used all their ammo trying to kill civilians in order to win some media victories.  Win in the minds of some real degenerates at least.  Certainly not in the minds of decent people who've served in professional militaries.

Oh, here we go again with shelling Dontesk for 8 years. It's strange that after such long constant shelling this city looks better than cities attacked by Russia like Avdiivka or Bakhmut. Or probably it can't even called as cities anymore as there just ruins of city remains.
Killed civilians - I'm wondering how many Ukrainian civilians were killed during 2 years of war. But offcourse, you won't see this.


Cluster munitions and petal mines don't cause a lot of damage to core infrastructure.  They are used mostly to kill people.  It's the decision maker's choice, via targeting, whether to kill civilians or soldiers.  The Zionazis thought it made more sense in their twisted logic to kill civilians.  Then the Russian soldiers came in an mowed them over.

One of the reasons I have a great deal of respect for the Russian leadership and military is that they have been quite sensitive to civilian casualties over the course of this thing as best I can tell.  Yes, they can crater almost area at will, but when they do so it is almost always areas where the civilians are long gone.  Unless, of course, the Zionazis are holding the civilians as human shields.  Even under these conditions the Russians do seem to modify their tactics out of deference to innocent human life.


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February 18, 2024, 09:05:53 AM
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Yeah, too bad they used all their ammo trying to kill civilians in order to win some media victories.  Win in the minds of some real degenerates at least.  Certainly not in the minds of decent people who've served in professional militaries.

Oh, here we go again with shelling Dontesk for 8 years. It's strange that after such long constant shelling this city looks better than cities attacked by Russia like Avdiivka or Bakhmut. Or probably it can't even called as cities anymore as there just ruins of city remains.
Killed civilians - I'm wondering how many Ukrainian civilians were killed during 2 years of war. But offcourse, you won't see this.


Cluster munitions and petal mines don't cause a lot of damage to core infrastructure.  They are used mostly to kill people.  It's the decision maker's choice, via targeting, whether to kill civilians or soldiers.  The Zionazis thought it made more sense in their twisted logic to kill civilians.  Then the Russian soldiers came in an mowed them over.

One of the reasons I have a great deal of respect for the Russian leadership and military is that they have been quite sensitive to civilian casualties over the course of this thing as best I can tell.  Yes, they can crater almost area at will, but when they do so it is almost always areas where the civilians are long gone.  Unless, of course, the Zionazis are holding the civilians as human shields.  Even under these conditions the Russians do seem to modify their tactics out of deference to innocent human life.




It certainly doesn't look like that if you read western media, but this war seems to have way less civilian deaths compared to soldier deaths than any USA war since WW2.
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February 18, 2024, 09:24:18 AM
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It certainly doesn't look like that if you read western media, but this war seems to have way less civilian deaths compared to soldier deaths than any USA war since WW2.

I read/watch a little but almost completely for entertainment value and to keep an eye on the evolution of their techniques.  It's pretty black-pill-ing to have to concede that yes, such a large number of people  actually do buy that kind of propaganda, but it is what it is.  It's caused adjustments in how and where I live my life.

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February 18, 2024, 09:49:56 PM
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As tvbcof said above, "That's not really a war; it's a total ultra-violent genocide of a whole type of people." But in this instance, it's Ukrainians, and especially Ukrainian soldiers.

Some will think that this is simply a Ukrainian strategic maneuver. But I wonder if Zelensky's generals are finally forcing him into it.


Major Victory For Russian Army As Ukraine Forces Flee Eastern City



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/major-victory-russian-army-ukraine-forces-flee-eastern-city
Shortly after midnight Saturday in Ukraine, the country's newly-installed top commander, General Oleksandr Syrsky, announced that he had ordered troops to evacuate the city. Surrounded in three directions by the Russian army, Ukrainian soldiers in the city found themselves in a rapidly-tightening noose.

"Based on the operational situation around Avdiivka, in order to avoid encirclement and preserve the lives and health of servicemen, I decided to withdraw our units from the city and move to defense on more favorable lines," said Syrsky in a Facebook post.

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While its authenticity can't be confirmed, video circulating on social media purportedly shows Ukrainian armored vehicles executing a fiery but mostly orderly retreat:

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February 18, 2024, 10:43:08 PM
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As tvbcof said above, "That's not really a war; it's a total ultra-violent genocide of a whole type of people." But in this instance, it's Ukrainians, and especially Ukrainian soldiers.

Some will think that this is simply a Ukrainian strategic maneuver. But I wonder if Zelensky's generals are finally forcing him into it.

Major Victory For Russian Army As Ukraine Forces Flee Eastern City


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/major-victory-russian-army-ukraine-forces-flee-eastern-city
Shortly after midnight Saturday in Ukraine, the country's newly-installed top commander, General Oleksandr Syrsky, announced that he had ordered troops to evacuate the city. Surrounded in three directions by the Russian army, Ukrainian soldiers in the city found themselves in a rapidly-tightening noose.

"Based on the operational situation around Avdiivka, in order to avoid encirclement and preserve the lives and health of servicemen, I decided to withdraw our units from the city and move to defense on more favorable lines," said Syrsky in a Facebook post.

X

While its authenticity can't be confirmed, video circulating on social media purportedly shows Ukrainian armored vehicles executing a fiery but mostly orderly retreat:

more X
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What actually seems to have happened is more that Syrsky('s handlers) had every intention of fighting the combination of hapless Slavic conscripts and tattoo'd neo-nazis to the death in Avdivka.  The ziocon 'commanders' had left the area months ago and were commanding via network communications which ended up having 'technical issues'.

The plan went awry when the highest ranking on-the-ground people (lower officers and higher NCOs) started negotiating directly with the Russians so save their and their charges' skins.  Only after seeing what was happening and being powerless to stop it did 'Syrsky' have a change of heart and ordered a retreat (in the mainstream Western media at least, and it was obviously just for PR reasons.)

The people who saved so many Ukrainian lives are already under investigation by the zioncons in 'Ukraine', and will probably find a vacation in Siberia to be much happier and healthier environment than going 'back home' I would suspect.

Anyway, a lot of innocent Ukrainian Slavic lives were (and are being) saved by on-the-ground in-charges.  Some of the spared may actually be useful in the next phase of this thing when actual Ukrainians attempt to preserve some of the Western areas of the rump-state against the Poles and NATO invasions forces.  With a fair degree of assistance from the Russians and White-Russians I would expect.


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February 18, 2024, 11:10:21 PM
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Yeah, too bad they used all their ammo trying to kill civilians in order to win some media victories.  Win in the minds of some real degenerates at least.  Certainly not in the minds of decent people who've served in professional militaries.

Oh, here we go again with shelling Dontesk for 8 years. It's strange that after such long constant shelling this city looks better than cities attacked by Russia like Avdiivka or Bakhmut. Or probably it can't even called as cities anymore as there just ruins of city remains.
Killed civilians - I'm wondering how many Ukrainian civilians were killed during 2 years of war. But offcourse, you won't see this.


Cluster munitions and petal mines don't cause a lot of damage to core infrastructure.  They are used mostly to kill people.  It's the decision maker's choice, via targeting, whether to kill civilians or soldiers.  The Zionazis thought it made more sense in their twisted logic to kill civilians.  Then the Russian soldiers came in an mowed them over.

One of the reasons I have a great deal of respect for the Russian leadership and military is that they have been quite sensitive to civilian casualties over the course of this thing as best I can tell.  Yes, they can crater almost area at will, but when they do so it is almost always areas where the civilians are long gone.  Unless, of course, the Zionazis are holding the civilians as human shields.  Even under these conditions the Russians do seem to modify their tactics out of deference to innocent human life.



You are not using the right sources of information. Since Bucha, the same style of striking civilian infrastructure has been going on during all the campaign. Not only that, but also there are quite a few videos of murderous intentional killing of civilian with drones.

Re munitions used... Ruzzia's favourite is the FAB 500, which is dropped from quite far away, has very low accuracy and is intended to destroy anything in a radious of 30 to 50 meters.  As you may understand, I do not respect psychopaths, which seem to be the basic requisite to be a commanding rank in the Ruzzian army.

But what is relevant now is what will Syrskyi has in mind on regard to defence and even possible limited but good value offensives.

Confirmed, 2 su-34 and one Su-35 have been removed from the list of planes in the Ruzzian "Aerospatial" forces.

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February 18, 2024, 11:50:34 PM
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You are not using the right sources of information.

True that.  As a Westerner I'm supposed to be listening to Western propaganda and believing it, but I'm not.  I didn't learn well in pubic education.  So, guilty as charged.

Since Bucha, the same style of striking civilian infrastructure has been going on during all the campaign. Not only that, but also there are quite a few videos of murderous intentional killing of civilian with drones.

Bucha where the Russians bombed the civilians with food rations (as is their obligation under international law), then when they left the Zionazi security forces summarily executed anyone who ate it.

Re munitions used... Ruzzia's favourite is the FAB 500, which is dropped from quite far away, has very low accuracy and is intended to destroy anything in a radious of 30 to 50 meters.  As you may understand, I do not respect psychopaths, which seem to be the basic requisite to be a commanding rank in the Ruzzian army.

The Russians pulverize areas at the contact area where they are about to go in.  This is a slow moving war and as such, any civilians who are collateral damage in these types of operations are either so suborn that they are begging to exit the gene pool, or are held as human shields.  Ukraine controls these areas so they are responsible for what happens to civilians who shouldn't really be there in the first place.

Pin-point strikes are not uncommon outside the front, and I would not deny that strikes can go wrong via electromagnetic or other defenses, but it doesn't seem very common.  Generally speaking the ones caught on cam seem remarkably accurate, and it's a total waste of resource for them not to be as accurate as possible.  Looks to me as though a lot of the collateral damage is attributable to anti-missile defenses.

Also if a hundred or two Western mercs and/or NATO specialists take up residence in civilian areas so as to enjoy the morning breakfast buffet, it's pretty obviously a threat to nearby civilians.  Again, the zionazi leadership of Ukraine who makes these decisions and they deserve the credit/blame for their decisions.  Everyone knows the minimum Russian capabilities by this point.


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February 18, 2024, 11:55:49 PM
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You are not using the right sources of information.

True that.  As a Westerner I'm supposed to be listening to Western propaganda and believing it, but I'm not.  I didn't learn well in pubic education.  So, guilty as charged.

Since Bucha, the same style of striking civilian infrastructure has been going on during all the campaign. Not only that, but also there are quite a few videos of murderous intentional killing of civilian with drones.

Bucha where the Russians bombed the civilians with food rations (as is their obligation under international law), then when they left the Zionazi security forces summarily executed anyone who ate it.

Re munitions used... Ruzzia's favourite is the FAB 500, which is dropped from quite far away, has very low accuracy and is intended to destroy anything in a radious of 30 to 50 meters.  As you may understand, I do not respect psychopaths, which seem to be the basic requisite to be a commanding rank in the Ruzzian army.

The Russians pulverize areas at the contact area where they are about to go in.  This is a slow moving war and as such, any civilians who are collateral damage in these types of operations are either so suborn that they are begging to exit the gene pool, or are held as human shields.  Ukraine controls these areas so they are responsible for what happens to civilians who shouldn't really be there in the first place.

Pin-point strikes are not uncommon outside the front, and I would not deny that strikes can go wrong via electromagnetic or other defenses, but it doesn't seem very common.  Generally speaking the ones caught on cam seem remarkably accurate, and it's a total waste of resource for them not to be as accurate as possible.  Looks to me as though a lot of the collateral damage is attributable to anti-missile defenses.

Also if a hundred or two Western mercs and/or NATO specialists take up residence in civilian areas so as to enjoy the morning breakfast buffet, it's pretty obviously a threat to nearby civilians.  Again, the zionazi leadership of Ukraine who makes these decisions and they deserve the credit/blame for their decisions.  Everyone knows the minimum Russian capabilities by this point.



Again, you need to check your information. Airstrikes, including the use of FAB are being used daily against nearly all the localities - with civilians - along the shore of the dnipro river. In Bucha, there was clear evidence of war crimes, including kidnapping of civilians, rape, torture and a number of crimes. It is evident the psychopathic nature of the orders from the higher command to the last petty officer.

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Again, you need to check your information. Airstrikes, including the use of FAB are being used daily against nearly all the localities - with civilians - along the shore of the dnipro river.  ...

The Zionazi leadership of Ukraine controls the civilians in these high activity areas.  Either they get them out (as do responsible leaderships), or they don't (as do thug states who use civilians as human shields.)

I mean it's not like the Zionazis don't have the money to hire some busses considering the $100,000,000,000.00 or so of my tax dollars that they were given.


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I still cannot understand what has made you so narrow-minded and hateful over the years to the point where all you do is babble about exceptionally low-IQ racist conspiracy theories. If you have Bitcoin wealth as you claim, you could be doing any number of things in a country that is paradise to people who can afford to not have to work there. Its a stunningly beautiful place, filled with friendly people, cheap liquor, and opportunity for adventure. Great times await. But no, you sit there hunkered down at your computer and concoct twisted genocide fanfiction, just hoping to get a reaction like this one I guess. What made you that way? I'm truly curious.

Also, I think its worth pointing out that you did not pay $100 billion in taxes, LOL.

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I still cannot understand what has made you so narrow-minded and hateful over the years to the point where all you do is babble about exceptionally low-IQ racist conspiracy theories. If you have Bitcoin wealth as you claim, you could be doing any number of things in a country that is paradise to people who can afford to not have to work there. Its a stunningly beautiful place, filled with friendly people, cheap liquor, and opportunity for adventure. Great times await. But no, you sit there hunkered down at your computer and concoct twisted genocide fanfiction, just hoping to get a reaction like this one I guess. What made you that way? I'm truly curious.

Also, I think its worth pointing out that you did not pay $100 billion in taxes, LOL.

When Chinese ballistic missiles start taking out the caches of weapons that the U.S. is busy burying on the islands as we speak, then you might understand what I'm talking about and why I didn't just keep my mouth shut like 'normal' people would.  I actually care about the people here, to at least some reasonable degree, and am not at all looking forward to seeing them become the next Ukrainians, but it looks to me as though that's what's in the cards.  I noticed that one of them died in the tunnels under Gaza the other day to my complete lack of surprise.

The Chinese have developed a herd management system which the Technocrats and other totalitarians like so the outcome of the upcoming conflict is not hard to predict.  The only wild-card is whether the Chinese can be 'trusted' to stay on-board and in their place, or if they will attempt to take over the global machine outright and not honer God's choice of people.  If the Chinese show the same military professionalism as have the Russians in Ukraine, I'll say so, but I am very doubtful that that would be the case.  Both Russia and China (and the U.S.) are to prone to authoritarianism and I wouldn't want to live there...or in any country under their firm grip.

A fair number of Ukrainians do have the basic aptitude, education, and experience to see what is happening to them and why.  The same cannot be said for most of the people here for whatever set of reasons.  I'll have more sympathy for the islanders than I have for the Ukrainians who really should have known better and stopped their 'troubles' before things got to the point where they are today.


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February 19, 2024, 04:24:39 PM
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More and more people and analysts are coming out with the reasons why Ukraine will lose, or has lost already. Actually, losing will help the local people of Ukraine win.


Sen. Ron Johnson and Elon Musk explain why Ukraine will lose the war in X discussion about Ukraine spending bill



https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-02-18-johnson-musk-why-ukraine-will-lose-war-spending-bill.html
In a Spaces discussion on the social media platform X hosted by venture capitalist David Sacks, Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin) and Elon Musk talked candidly about why they oppose the war in Ukraine – and why Ukraine’s chances of winning the war are so abysmal.

They were joined by Senator J.D. Vance (R-Ohio), Senator Mike Lee (R-Utah), and former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.

Sen. Johnson said: "We all have to understand that Vladimir Putin will not lose this war.” With four times the population of Ukraine and a far bigger industrial base, he believes Ukraine doesn’t stand a chance.

"Russia can produce 4.5 million artillery shells per year. We're not even up to 1 million per year. The average age of a Ukrainian soldier right now is 43 years old," he noted.

He added that around 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed, so those who say they are concerned about the Ukrainian people should also want the war to end. The country faces almost total destruction if the war continues. Of course, Russians are also dying, as are civilians on both sides.

Anyone who expects a victory for Ukraine, according to Senator Johnson, is “living in a fantasy world.”

Elon Musk agreed with Senator Johnson. "As you said, there's no way Putin is going to lose. If he backs off, he will be assassinated. And for those who want regime change in Russia, they should think about who is the person that could take out Putin, and is that person likely to be a peacenik? Probably not" he said.

He also responded to previous charges that he is a Putin apologist, pointing out how his businesses have indirectly worked to undermine Russia. For example, he said that SpaceX has been instrumental in taking clients from Russia’s space launch business, while the Starlink internet service they have provided to Ukraine has been vital for the country’s communications.

They made it clear that they don’t think the $95 billion spending package containing $60 billion for Ukraine that recently passed a Senate vote will do much to change the situation. According to Sen. Johnson, the money will just needlessly add “fuel to the flames of a bloody stalemate.”
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February 19, 2024, 11:58:44 PM
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Ruzzia is loosing planes on a daily basis now. Reports of another 2 today. I guess the FAB bombs are going to become too expensive to use. My guess, the French Patriot, on truck, deployable in 30 minutes seems to be doing this work.

Again, you need to check your information. Airstrikes, including the use of FAB are being used daily against nearly all the localities - with civilians - along the shore of the dnipro river.  ...

The Zionazi leadership of Ukraine controls the civilians in these high activity areas.  Either they get them out (as do responsible leaderships), or they don't (as do thug states who use civilians as human shields.)

I mean it's not like the Zionazis don't have the money to hire some busses considering the $100,000,000,000.00 or so of my tax dollars that they were given.



Kherson is not "a human shield", it is a relatively large city, populated by a lot of people. If you drop an inherently inaccurate bomb from 70 km away and blast a building chances are it will be 10 grannies, 10 babies, 10 women and 10 men... none of them military, the ones that die. And that is everyday.

It has nothing to do with the government, it is terrorism from the Ruzzian mafia state, but given how Ruzzia has spent their own soldiers in meat attacks for a meaningless place such as Avdiivka, it is no wonder they kill Ukrainians indiscriminately as a base "strategy".


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Kherson is not "a human shield", it is a relatively large city, populated by a lot of people.

When Russia left Kherson they took with them whichever civilians wish to leave and be under their protection.  IIRC, from the reports I heard, they were actually given land well inside of Russia if they wanted it.  At least that was the potentially untruthful propaganda the Russians put out and I have no way to verify it.  I was able to verify to my satisfaction that there were plenty of people heading East across the Dnieper as the Russians were leaving.

If you drop an inherently inaccurate bomb from 70 km away and blast a building chances are it will be 10 grannies, 10 babies, 10 women and 10 men... none of them military, the ones that die. And that is everyday.
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Here in 2024, if you use inaccurate bombs and other munitions, or mis-use accurate munitions, you will run out of ammunition and have little to show for it.  And you will probably lose.

There is one side in this thing which has run out of ammunition and is losing in spite of being sent a shit-load of it and even more money.  The other side is not running out of ammunition and is winning handily.


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Kherson is not "a human shield", it is a relatively large city, populated by a lot of people.

When Russia left Kherson they took with them whichever civilians wish to leave and be under their protection.  IIRC, from the reports I heard, they were actually given land well inside of Russia if they wanted it.  At least that was the potentially untruthful propaganda the Russians put out and I have no way to verify it.  I was able to verify to my satisfaction that there were plenty of people heading East across the Dnieper as the Russians were leaving.

If you drop an inherently inaccurate bomb from 70 km away and blast a building chances are it will be 10 grannies, 10 babies, 10 women and 10 men... none of them military, the ones that die. And that is everyday.
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Here in 2024, if you use inaccurate bombs and other munitions, or mis-use accurate munitions, you will run out of ammunition and have little to show for it.  And you will probably lose.

There is one side in this thing which has run out of ammunition and is losing in spite of being sent a shit-load of it and even more money.  The other side is not running out of ammunition and is winning handily.



Winning like... loosing 10.000 soldiers for a few square kilometers? A jet a day? A ship every other week? A refinery every week? Have you made a few numbers before claiming a "victory"?

But sure, keep hoping than Ukraine will run out of ammo during 2024. It looks less and less likely as Europe is realising that US is not going to be of help, but the EU certainly can ramp-up production to 2M shells a year within the year.


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Seems that a HIMARS strike caught 60 Ruzzian soldiers while perfectly in line, in the open, in a place know to have troops. Hopefully, there are more Ruzzian officials that went to the same school as they guy who decided this was a good idea. Another bunch of people that die for Putin, without any good reason nor any gain, probably before even seeing combat.

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Seems that a HIMARS strike caught 60 Ruzzian soldiers while perfectly in line, in the open, in a place know to have troops. Hopefully, there are more Ruzzian officials that went to the same school as they guy who decided this was a good idea. Another bunch of people that die for Putin, without any good reason nor any gain, probably before even seeing combat.

 Cry  Among the many brave Russian soldiers trying desperately to save Ukraine from Zelensky, and even from Ukrainian soldiers own misguided, hari-kari attempt.


Zelensky Preparing to Flee the Country, Warns Ukrainian Opposition Leader



https://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.com/2024/02/zelensky-preparing-to-flee-country.html
"Zelensky apparently lost hope in the Americans and in the mansion in Florida that they promised him," he noted. The opposition leader indicated that the Ukrainian president "found a new homeland and luxury housing, while millions of his compatriots live as refugees and lost their homes." "Instead of helping the pensioners for whom he whines so much in the West, Zelensky diverts the money 'honestly earned' in the war to tax havens and does not plan to invest in Ukraine, in the economy, in the country's defence," he said.

I do not recall another such great leader who so brazingly prepared for that day that the music ended.

There never was a path forward to actual victory that does not include russia getting bored and going away.  As it turns out, they are simply grinding it out while minimizing actual casulties.  After all in that case, they can take all the time they want.

Better yet, their conscripts turn into ok soldiers as well while the Ukraine scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

I think we will end up with a new international border there.
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February 22, 2024, 03:37:43 AM
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Here in 2024, if you use inaccurate bombs and other munitions, or mis-use accurate munitions, you will run out of ammunition and have little to show for it.  And you will probably lose.

There is one side in this thing which has run out of ammunition and is losing in spite of being sent a shit-load of it and even more money.  The other side is not running out of ammunition and is winning handily.


Winning like... loosing 10.000 soldiers for a few square kilometers? A jet a day? A ship every other week? A refinery every week? Have you made a few numbers before claiming a "victory"?

But sure, keep hoping than Ukraine will run out of ammo during 2024. It looks less and less likely as Europe is realising that US is not going to be of help, but the EU certainly can ramp-up production to 2M shells a year within the year.


Surely you don't believe the 10k nonsense and this is just another 'Ghost of Kiev' class absurd fable which you've claimed is justified because it helps morale.  I'm not sure how it helps morale to be lied to repeatedly by ridiculous clowns while you are getting your balls pounded flat daily, but then I'm not a Ukroid or what currently passes for a 'liberal' either, so maybe you are right.

Ukraine is also running out of things to fire shells out of.  That's why that crazy Danish 'leader' wants to give Ukraine ALL of Denmark's artillery and apparently every other military thing that have as well as do most of the WEF plants in the various governments.  I guess not having a military _would_ limit military casualties in the exceedingly unlikely event that those bad bad Rooskies attacked them.  OTOH, with no defenses a handful of 'migrants' with some machetes (and a few other supplies) could take the entire 'entitled' native population out, and I'll bet that that's what she and her type are shooting for.  Kalergi plan jacked on steroids to make up for lost time.  AKA, 'tikkun olam' as is self-admittedly behind Dr. Peter 'Winky' Hotez's motivations to peddle the de-pop shot.


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Here in 2024, if you use inaccurate bombs and other munitions, or mis-use accurate munitions, you will run out of ammunition and have little to show for it.  And you will probably lose.

There is one side in this thing which has run out of ammunition and is losing in spite of being sent a shit-load of it and even more money.  The other side is not running out of ammunition and is winning handily.


Winning like... loosing 10.000 soldiers for a few square kilometers? A jet a day? A ship every other week? A refinery every week? Have you made a few numbers before claiming a "victory"?

But sure, keep hoping than Ukraine will run out of ammo during 2024. It looks less and less likely as Europe is realising that US is not going to be of help, but the EU certainly can ramp-up production to 2M shells a year within the year.


Surely you don't believe the 10k nonsense and this is just another 'Ghost of Kiev' class absurd fable which you've claimed is justified because it helps morale.  I'm not sure how it helps morale to be lied to repeatedly by ridiculous clowns while you are getting your balls pounded flat daily, but then I'm not a Ukroid or what currently passes for a 'liberal' either, so maybe you are right.

Ukraine is also running out of things to fire shells out of.  That's why that crazy Danish 'leader' wants to give Ukraine ALL of Denmark's artillery and apparently every other military thing that have as well as do most of the WEF plants in the various governments.  I guess not having a military _would_ limit military casualties in the exceedingly unlikely event that those bad bad Rooskies attacked them.  OTOH, with no defenses a handful of 'migrants' with some machetes (and a few other supplies) could take the entire 'entitled' native population out, and I'll bet that that's what she and her type are shooting for.  Kalergi plan jacked on steroids to make up for lost time.  AKA, 'tikkun olam' as is self-admittedly behind [link to propaganda site removed]Dr. Peter 'Winky' Hotez[/url]'s motivations to peddle the de-pop shot.



I do not believe in ghosts regardless of their location nor in the official Kremlin propaganda - like the one you parrot in every post.

I do believe in video evidence and there is plenty of it regarding the hundreds of botched mechanised attacks.

Oh...and there's this little story about Andrei "Murz" Morozov, a milblogger (AKA part-time propagandist). Apparently he dared to tweet that the losses had been around 16k men and 300 tanks for your latest "victory" (I think the number is probably double, based on evidence). It seems that after that he wrote a "suicide note" and killed himself.

I am not sure if "he wrote the note" before of after he was dead.

https://twitter.com/sranysovok/status/1760214568272363606

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Russian serviceman and volunteer Andrei “Murz” Morozov has shot himself 5 times in the back

Ukraine is short in ammo and probably should have built better defensive positions. Nothing that cannot be solved by sending more shells and digging.

https://twitter.com/OSINTNic/status/1760387078389452996

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Pro-Kremlin Russian military blogger Andrei Morozov died days after reporting on the massive Russian casualties in Avdiivka.

▪️ Morozov, who wrote under the name 'Murz' and had over 100,000 followers on his Telegram channel, died just days after reporting that Russia had suffered large losses during its assault on Avdiivka.

▪️ On his Telegram channel, Morozov claimed that the Russians lost about 16,000 soldiers and 300 armored vehicles trying to capture the city of Avdiivka, which essentially began in October 2023.

▪️ Russian state news and papers claim that Morozov died of a self-inflicted gunshot

So... both you and I know figures are true, as a minimum, but just keep pretending you don't, I would not want to read your suicide note, it would probably be as good as you posts - not to mention having your ghost parroting propaganda until the end of the universe.

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Here in 2024, if you use inaccurate bombs and other munitions, or mis-use accurate munitions, you will run out of ammunition and have little to show for it.  And you will probably lose.

There is one side in this thing which has run out of ammunition and is losing in spite of being sent a shit-load of it and even more money.  The other side is not running out of ammunition and is winning handily.


Winning like... loosing 10.000 soldiers for a few square kilometers? A jet a day? A ship every other week? A refinery every week? Have you made a few numbers before claiming a "victory"?

But sure, keep hoping than Ukraine will run out of ammo during 2024. It looks less and less likely as Europe is realising that US is not going to be of help, but the EU certainly can ramp-up production to 2M shells a year within the year.


Surely you don't believe the 10k nonsense and this is just another 'Ghost of Kiev' class absurd fable which you've claimed is justified because it helps morale.  I'm not sure how it helps morale to be lied to repeatedly by ridiculous clowns while you are getting your balls pounded flat daily, but then I'm not a Ukroid or what currently passes for a 'liberal' either, so maybe you are right.

Ukraine is also running out of things to fire shells out of.  That's why that crazy Danish 'leader' wants to give Ukraine ALL of Denmark's artillery and apparently every other military thing that have as well as do most of the WEF plants in the various governments.  I guess not having a military _would_ limit military casualties in the exceedingly unlikely event that those bad bad Rooskies attacked them.  OTOH, with no defenses a handful of 'migrants' with some machetes (and a few other supplies) could take the entire 'entitled' native population out, and I'll bet that that's what she and her type are shooting for.  Kalergi plan jacked on steroids to make up for lost time.  AKA, 'tikkun olam' as is self-admittedly behind Dr. Peter 'Winky' Hotez's motivations to peddle the de-pop shot.



More than likely paxmao married a wealthy Monsanto woman who is demanding that Ukraine keep fighting while Monsanto poisons Ukraine fields with Roundup.

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