FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread

[Sithara007]

don't want to put fingers, but Hungary was relegated a moment draw put them into this group, but they played some great football and had a lot of luck in the process to avoid relegation, so other teams had to be relegated, and England showed nothing in all six matches together

what is Hungary capable of (not much obviously), could be seen last night against Italy, an easy defeat

Yeah.. they lost 0-2 to Italy yesterday. It was OK, after some good performances till now. A few days ago, they managed to defeat England by a margin of 0-4, and that too while playing in England (Molineux Stadium, Wolverhampton). Zsolt Nagy and Roland Sallai seems to be in good form. Anyway, they haven't qualified for the 2022 FIFA World Cup. The two teams that couldn't qualify for the world cup finished as the top two from this group, while the two that qualified finished at the bottom.

[TheGreatPython]

What do you mean by "worrying squad"? I wouldn't say that Germany looks more dangerous than Brazil or Argentina, France or England. They have severe problems in their offensive game.

Well, what I said from those quotes, that Germany is the most worrying team, in terms of their performance is not so convincing, and from some of the teams mentioned in the previous post which include, Brazil, France, Spain and Germany. and i'm not saying that germany looks more dangerous than brazil and argentina teams.
I see from their match statistics, from six matches in the UEFA Nations League they only have one win, four defeats, one draw.  and I doubt their performance later when they play in the world cup stage.

Performance in UEFA Nations Cup is surely having no impact on teams performance in World Cup because as we watch most of the teams were very slow in this event and few are not going with strength as they were looking for new strategy and trying to adjust few systems which help them in this World Cup, so hopefully they will learn from their mistakes which are happened in this event and as Germany play I am also worried about them but most chances they could be done quality performance because after Brazil they are one of the best teams in this event and their current squad is also in good shape even having most of the youths.

But, they are skilled players which can do good performance here most chances they could be good until last eight after this we can't talk about them because we have better teams which are having better performance and quality, so this could be tricky but most chances they could be in last eight without any doubt.

[shogun47]

What do you mean by "worrying squad"? I wouldn't say that Germany looks more dangerous than Brazil or Argentina, France or England. They have severe problems in their offensive game.

Well, what I said from those quotes, that Germany is the most worrying team, in terms of their performance is not so convincing, and from some of the teams mentioned in the previous post which include, Brazil, France, Spain and Germany. and i'm not saying that germany looks more dangerous than brazil and argentina teams.
I see from their match statistics, from six matches in the UEFA Nations League they only have one win, four defeats, one draw.  and I doubt their performance later when they play in the world cup stage.

Ok now I got you. I do indeed agree with what you said and there is also a difference when you compare a weak performance by France in the Nations League to that of Germany. Regarding France, we all know that they can step up their gamer within a blink of an eye due to players like Mbappe.

When I watch Germany play their games these days, it doesn't only look as if they are performing bad but could gear up their game, it really looks as if there is nothing they can do to raise pressure during the game. Sometimes they have some lucky door opener and then they keep the ball and kind of "dominate" the game, but it's not really convincing. In my opinion they will have more trouble during the upcoming tournament than all the other top teams mentioned here.

[Sithara007]

Ok now I got you. I do indeed agree with what you said and there is also a difference when you compare a weak performance by France in the Nations League to that of Germany. Regarding France, we all know that they can step up their gamer within a blink of an eye due to players like Mbappe.

When I watch Germany play their games these days, it doesn't only look as if they are performing bad but could gear up their game, it really looks as if there is nothing they can do to raise pressure during the game. Sometimes they have some lucky door opener and then they keep the ball and kind of "dominate" the game, but it's not really convincing. In my opinion they will have more trouble during the upcoming tournament than all the other top teams mentioned here.

France won't be able to win matches as long as there is no team cohesion between their players. It came out in the open during Euro 2021, and looks as if the controversy hasn't died down yet. And even now, it is not known whether Pogba will be able to participate in the world cup or not. At least compared to France, Germany seems to be in good shape. But then, their performance was pathetic during the UEFA nations league. They failed to finish in the top 2 in their group, and lost a match to Hungary.

[rahmad2nd]

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When I watch Germany play their games these days, it doesn't only look as if they are performing bad but could gear up their game, it really looks as if there is nothing they can do to raise pressure during the game. Sometimes they have some lucky door opener and then they keep the ball and kind of "dominate" the game, but it's not really convincing. In my opinion they will have more trouble during the upcoming tournament than all the other top teams mentioned here.

Based on my analysis, Germany is currently undergoing a phase of renewal of the players. many of them are young players, individually I have no doubts about their quality. however, if I analyze the results of the matches in the UEFA Nations League, their performance is far from expectations.
I don't even think that the game was a consolation match, I mean they really played seriously. Armed with the statistical records of these matches, it is safe to say that the current German squad is quite worrying. this is not what I expected, and I hope the performance in the UEFA Nations League does not affect their performance in the world cup later.

[shogun47]

Ok now I got you. I do indeed agree with what you said and there is also a difference when you compare a weak performance by France in the Nations League to that of Germany. Regarding France, we all know that they can step up their gamer within a blink of an eye due to players like Mbappe.

When I watch Germany play their games these days, it doesn't only look as if they are performing bad but could gear up their game, it really looks as if there is nothing they can do to raise pressure during the game. Sometimes they have some lucky door opener and then they keep the ball and kind of "dominate" the game, but it's not really convincing. In my opinion they will have more trouble during the upcoming tournament than all the other top teams mentioned here.

France won't be able to win matches as long as there is no team cohesion between their players. It came out in the open during Euro 2021, and looks as if the controversy hasn't died down yet. And even now, it is not known whether Pogba will be able to participate in the world cup or not. At least compared to France, Germany seems to be in good shape. But then, their performance was pathetic during the UEFA nations league. They failed to finish in the top 2 in their group, and lost a match to Hungary.

From that perspective England and Germany also can't win the World Cup. As I said before that doesn't really mean too much although I do agree that some games were so badly disappointing that it is hard to believe these teams can step up their game by so much that they are then a favorite for the World Cup title.

Nevertheless, there is also the factor of individual strength. France has such a high quality in some positions that they are really able to score any single minute. One crazy Mbappe is enough to take the game home. The World Cup 2018 has shown that Mbappe is so explosive, he just needs a few minutes to make a difference and decide a game with one sprint or dribbling.

In my opinion France does count to the inner circle of the biggest favorites.

[dezoel]

Based on my analysis, Germany is currently undergoing a phase of renewal of the players. many of them are young players, individually I have no doubts about their quality. however, if I analyze the results of the matches in the UEFA Nations League, their performance is far from expectations.
I don't even think that the game was a consolation match, I mean they really played seriously. Armed with the statistical records of these matches, it is safe to say that the current German squad is quite worrying. this is not what I expected, and I hope the performance in the UEFA Nations League does not affect their performance in the world cup later.

Right now, most of the European teams are not good with mostly having issues which are going to be exposed in this world cup and after long time we are going to have some troubles for them from teams of CONMEBOL because their both top teams are in better shape with their strategy and quality is much improved from last few years, and they have few players which can give their best for title race specially right now Argentina is having much better team.

Germany is under renewal so with this we can expect some good from them but France and England are most hyped teams for me in this event because these two are going to be dumb with their inner issues and Spain and Croatia can do some good resistance because these two are having better players and quality which is surely going to be work for them in this world cup instead of rest of the European teams.

[Daniel91]

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I think that the main favorites for the World Cup are Brazil, France, Spain and Germany.

I agree that Brazil is one of the most favourite nations to get the World Cup but for the others I have my doubts. Spain is ok, a good team and could go to the finals along with Argentina imo. For France, England and Germany, expectation >> reality especially if we talk about their horrible performance in Nations League. It is a shame although that league is almost friendly games but seeing their horrible performance send bad messages to their supporters and boost the confidence of their opponents.

Right now no one having any doubt about Brazil which is surely showing how strong they are for this world cup but as you also mentioning others are having some issues like I have feeling pulling out Argentina is also not good because they are also good and can do much better until reach into last four with France is not good even on papers they are currently the toughest side but on ground we have different realities about them same happening in case of Germany they are also good but not enough to be in last four this time for me most chances we are going to have two teams from South America and two European sides for last four, and they are Argentina, Brazil, Netherlands and Croatia this time hyped teams are not going into last four specially France and England.

Thank you for adding my national team, Croatia, to your list for the semi-finals. I sincerely hope that your prediction will come true 
Many actually underestimate Croatia, they even speculate whether Croatia will even pass the group stage at the World Cup and enter the knockout phase of the competition, but Croatia is playing better and better every day and wins away such national teams like France and Denmark.
This World Cup will be Messi's last, so I hope he will be able to reach the finals, and personally I think that Germany and Belgium also have a good chance for a big result at this World Cup.

[rahmad2nd]

Based on my analysis, Germany is currently undergoing a phase of renewal of the players. many of them are young players, individually I have no doubts about their quality. however, if I analyze the results of the matches in the UEFA Nations League, their performance is far from expectations.
I don't even think that the game was a consolation match, I mean they really played seriously. Armed with the statistical records of these matches, it is safe to say that the current German squad is quite worrying. this is not what I expected, and I hope the performance in the UEFA Nations League does not affect their performance in the world cup later.

Right now, most of the European teams are not good with mostly having issues which are going to be exposed in this world cup and after long time we are going to have some troubles for them from teams of CONMEBOL because their both top teams are in better shape with their strategy and quality is much improved from last few years, and they have few players which can give their best for title race specially right now Argentina is having much better team.

Germany is under renewal so with this we can expect some good from them but France and England are most hyped teams for me in this event because these two are going to be dumb with their inner issues and Spain and Croatia can do some good resistance because these two are having better players and quality which is surely going to be work for them in this world cup instead of rest of the European teams.

In addition to Croatia and Spain there is still the Netherlands, although they are not too favorites than the Latin American squad or other European countries. however, the Netherlands currently have a better statistical record than Germany and England, even France, in the League of Nations.
In the last match of the EUFA Nations League, the Netherlands was able to conquer Belgium even though with a thin score.
at least, they have the confidence capital to carry out their match in the Qatar world cup.
as for France. should be, they can perform better with the depth of the existing squad. but the schedule for the world cup in Qatar still leaves a grace period of one month ahead. Germany, England and France, can still prepare and improve their performance in a better direction.

[Daniel91]

Based on my analysis, Germany is currently undergoing a phase of renewal of the players. many of them are young players, individually I have no doubts about their quality. however, if I analyze the results of the matches in the UEFA Nations League, their performance is far from expectations.
I don't even think that the game was a consolation match, I mean they really played seriously. Armed with the statistical records of these matches, it is safe to say that the current German squad is quite worrying. this is not what I expected, and I hope the performance in the UEFA Nations League does not affect their performance in the world cup later.

Right now, most of the European teams are not good with mostly having issues which are going to be exposed in this world cup and after long time we are going to have some troubles for them from teams of CONMEBOL because their both top teams are in better shape with their strategy and quality is much improved from last few years, and they have few players which can give their best for title race specially right now Argentina is having much better team.

Germany is under renewal so with this we can expect some good from them but France and England are most hyped teams for me in this event because these two are going to be dumb with their inner issues and Spain and Croatia can do some good resistance because these two are having better players and quality which is surely going to be work for them in this world cup instead of rest of the European teams.

In addition to Croatia and Spain there is still the Netherlands, although they are not too favorites than the Latin American squad or other European countries. however, the Netherlands currently have a better statistical record than Germany and England, even France, in the League of Nations.
In the last match of the EUFA Nations League, the Netherlands was able to conquer Belgium even though with a thin score.
at least, they have the confidence capital to carry out their match in the Qatar world cup.
as for France. should be, they can perform better with the depth of the existing squad. but the schedule for the world cup in Qatar still leaves a grace period of one month ahead. Germany, England and France, can still prepare and improve their performance in a better direction.

I agree that we should not forget the Netherlands, just as we should not forget the very experienced  Belgium.
England and France played very badly in the League of Nations, but that doesn't mean much before their performance at the World Cup.
Both national teams have enough time to prepare well for the world championship, and the players will certainly play better and more seriously than in the League of Nations, a less important football competition.
It seems that there are some conflicts in the French team between the players but they have enough time to solve it until the World Cup and play at the highest level in the world cup.
A very exciting and uncertain world championship awaits us.

[rahmad2nd]

I agree that we should not forget the Netherlands, just as we should not forget the very experienced  Belgium.
England and France played very badly in the League of Nations, but that doesn't mean much before their performance at the World Cup.
Both national teams have enough time to prepare well for the world championship, and the players will certainly play better and more seriously than in the League of Nations, a less important football competition.
It seems that there are some conflicts in the French team between the players but they have enough time to solve it until the World Cup and play at the highest level in the world cup.
A very exciting and uncertain world championship awaits us.

So far the Netherlands are performing better than, France, England, Germany, in the League of Nations. Dutch performance is more consistent and looks quite slick in every match.
As for belgium, currently their performance is not so stable. in two meetings with the Netherlands, Belgium must recognize the greatness of the Netherlands for now. however, I hope their performance in the league of nations, will not affect their performance in the world cup later. especially for French, German and English.
as you said, this world championship is very interesting for us to wait for, and I hope the squad from the European continent can play at a very high level.

[nullama]

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So far the Netherlands are performing better than, France, England, Germany, in the League of Nations. Dutch performance is more consistent and looks quite slick in every match.
As for belgium, currently their performance is not so stable. in two meetings with the Netherlands, Belgium must recognize the greatness of the Netherlands for now. however, I hope their performance in the league of nations, will not affect their performance in the world cup later. especially for French, German and English.
as you said, this world championship is very interesting for us to wait for, and I hope the squad from the European continent can play at a very high level.

Although I would like to see The Netherlands lift the trophy, the League of Nations is not really representative of how teams will play in the World Cup.

With a bit of luck, there is a good chance that The Netherlands wins the tournament though...

[Daniel91]

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So far the Netherlands are performing better than, France, England, Germany, in the League of Nations. Dutch performance is more consistent and looks quite slick in every match.
As for belgium, currently their performance is not so stable. in two meetings with the Netherlands, Belgium must recognize the greatness of the Netherlands for now. however, I hope their performance in the league of nations, will not affect their performance in the world cup later. especially for French, German and English.
as you said, this world championship is very interesting for us to wait for, and I hope the squad from the European continent can play at a very high level.

Although I would like to see The Netherlands lift the trophy, the League of Nations is not really representative of how teams will play in the World Cup.

With a bit of luck, there is a good chance that The Netherlands wins the tournament though...

The League of Nations is actually a good replacement for the friendly matches we used to have before. The matches now have much more significance, the earnings are much higher and the national teams play against much stronger teams.
However, the League of Nations is not a competition that the top national teams are too focused on. Most coaches gave new players a chance and prepared their teams for the World Cup.
As I said before, The Netherlands is a very strong team and can do a lot in the World Cup, but there are at least 5-6 teams from Europe who are also aiming for a good result in the World Cup, and small details and luck will decide the winners in the end.

[dezoel]

The League of Nations is actually a good replacement for the friendly matches we used to have before. The matches now have much more significance, the earnings are much higher and the national teams play against much stronger teams.
However, the League of Nations is not a competition that the top national teams are too focused on. Most coaches gave new players a chance and prepared their teams for the World Cup.
As I said before, The Netherlands is a very strong team and can do a lot in the World Cup, but there are at least 5-6 teams from Europe who are also aiming for a good result in the World Cup, and small details and luck will decide the winners in the end.

Surely a solid point because playing League of Nations is much better than we have useless friendly matches which are completely nonsense but here they need to have few things which are surely important like big teams must play with their top players and try to have good attitude which will bring this competition more entertaining right now most of the teams are not playing positively may be because of coming world cup but still very good performance from few teams is giving good results for them and their chances in coming world cup like many are talking about the Netherlands which is surely one of the best team currently with Croatia is also having good performance in this event.

This League of Nations is surely one of the best platform for European teams because this is helping them for improving quality and having better strategy and system for big events like UEFA Europe Cup and World Cup.

[nullama]

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Surely a solid point because playing League of Nations is much better than we have useless friendly matches which are completely nonsense but here they need to have few things which are surely important like big teams must play with their top players and try to have good attitude which will bring this competition more entertaining right now most of the teams are not playing positively may be because of coming world cup but still very good performance from few teams is giving good results for them and their chances in coming world cup like many are talking about the Netherlands which is surely one of the best team currently with Croatia is also having good performance in this event.

This League of Nations is surely one of the best platform for European teams because this is helping them for improving quality and having better strategy and system for big events like UEFA Europe Cup and World Cup.

The bad thing about the League of Nations is that it removes a lot of friendly matches between South America and Europe.

It would be interesting to have a world wide version of it.

[Sithara007]

The bad thing about the League of Nations is that it removes a lot of friendly matches between South America and Europe.

It would be interesting to have a world wide version of it.

League of Nations is organized by the UEFA, and that is the reason why it is comprised only of European teams. I am not sure whether the FIFA will be interested in anything like this, as it may have a negative impact on the revenues from the world cup. The main issue is not with the League of Nations, but with the clubs. Already there were demands from some of the European clubs to shift the world cup schedule, as it overlaps with their league matches. FIFA did the right thing by throwing their demands in the dust bin. 

[nullama]

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League of Nations is organized by the UEFA, and that is the reason why it is comprised only of European teams. I am not sure whether the FIFA will be interested in anything like this, as it may have a negative impact on the revenues from the world cup. The main issue is not with the League of Nations, but with the clubs. Already there were demands from some of the European clubs to shift the world cup schedule, as it overlaps with their league matches. FIFA did the right thing by throwing their demands in the dust bin. 

Right, yes. The World Cup should have the highest priority.

I'm surprised that UEFA didn't schedule those matches correctly though. It's pretty obvious that all the teams will be preferring to play the World Cup than the Nations League.

[jaberwock]

League of Nations is organized by the UEFA, and that is the reason why it is comprised only of European teams. I am not sure whether the FIFA will be interested in anything like this, as it may have a negative impact on the revenues from the world cup. The main issue is not with the League of Nations, but with the clubs. Already there were demands from some of the European clubs to shift the world cup schedule, as it overlaps with their league matches. FIFA did the right thing by throwing their demands in the dust bin. 

There is no doubt FIFA is one of the most powerful sports organization around the world and no controlled by just 2 or 3 countries and their influence even we have too many corruption reports and other complaints but still they are doing good job for the development of soccer and about games between South America vs Europe here these two organizations can go through with mutual understanding because it's not hard job like they can start any competition which involved 6 or 8 teams from both continents, and they play against each other for the 2 or 3 weeks tourney which could be useful in many aspects like revenue and good healthy competition but here may be clubs can go with their objections but still a good idea if someone feel the positive side of this all.

[Sithara007]

Right, yes. The World Cup should have the highest priority.

I'm surprised that UEFA didn't schedule those matches correctly though. It's pretty obvious that all the teams will be preferring to play the World Cup than the Nations League.

Well.. I believe that it is OK to have the UEFA League of Nations at this time. After all, it gives some valuable match practice to the European teams ahead of the world cup. Most of the players are spending a majority of the time with their club sides. Nations league gives them an opportunity to build team bonding with the national players. The only issue is related to the overlap. Now UEFA needs to step in and draw a line for the clubs, and tell them not to create obstacles for the international matches.

[shogun47]

League of Nations is organized by the UEFA, and that is the reason why it is comprised only of European teams. I am not sure whether the FIFA will be interested in anything like this, as it may have a negative impact on the revenues from the world cup. The main issue is not with the League of Nations, but with the clubs. Already there were demands from some of the European clubs to shift the world cup schedule, as it overlaps with their league matches. FIFA did the right thing by throwing their demands in the dust bin. 

There is no doubt FIFA is one of the most powerful sports organization around the world and no controlled by just 2 or 3 countries and their influence even we have too many corruption reports and other complaints but still they are doing good job for the development of soccer and about games between South America vs Europe here these two organizations can go through with mutual understanding because it's not hard job like they can start any competition which involved 6 or 8 teams from both continents, and they play against each other for the 2 or 3 weeks tourney which could be useful in many aspects like revenue and good healthy competition but here may be clubs can go with their objections but still a good idea if someone feel the positive side of this all.

Being powerful and doing a good job doesn't necessarily go hand in hand and nobody should forget that. Corruption is a huge issue for an organization like the FIFA.

First the FIFA gives the World Cup to Qatar and now the Olympic Winter games have been given to Saudi Arabia. While this seems to be off-topic, it kind of is not. Guess what, the city where the Olympic Winter games are going to take place must even be built first. It doesn't exist yet. Anyone wants to guess how many people are going to die building a brand new mega city for some Winter games?

The whole world is all about money. I can only give bad guesses as to how much money someone like Blatter might be bunkering in places nobody ever found about.

People dying for building the venues in order for the world to have a great experience in front of the TV is many steps too far.