FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread

[rhomelmabini]

Do we have already odds for the FIFA World Cup 2022? I think that's more likely best to know rather than just saying there's easy or not for the groups. What I mean is odds for every group if ever there is. I don't think that it will always favor on the South American continent, even the defending champion is from Europe.

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[LUCKMCFLY]

Yes, and the truth is, Byron Casstillo had a very bad time, I saw a video where he himself said that he should be removed from the team in order not to damage Ecuador's classification, however, the Chileans were very bad, and it was not only the Italians who speculated that they were , the Colombians were hoping they would go to the World Cup, I honestly don't like Ecuador's style of football, sometimes they have explosiveness in their plays, maybe I would have liked Italy to go, but that's football, although now I don't see how boring the matches are, there are many without flavors from countries that want and deserve to go to the World Cup and this is something that is used with more inclusions.

Lop-sided matches will be there even if the number of participant countries remain at 32. The main argument from FIFA was that it wanted to give more chances to teams from the CAF and AFC. But even with the current qualification system, teams that qualify from these two confederations struggle against the teams from CONMEBOL and UEFA. Remember the inaugural match from the last world cup? Russia thrashed Saudi Arabia by a margin of 5-0. And this is despite the fact that Saudi Arabia is considered as one of the strongest teams in the AFC, and Russia doesn't rank among the top-20 UEFA nations.

Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

[nullama]

Do we have already odds for the FIFA World Cup 2022? I think that's more likely best to know rather than just saying there's easy or not for the groups. What I mean is odds for every group if ever there is. I don't think that it will always favor on the South American continent, even the defending champion is from Europe.

There are a few odds out already...

fox sports is assuming Brazil is going to win the world cup:


source: https://www.foxsports.com/soccer/fifa-world-cup-men/team-futures?future=World_Cup_Winner&segmentId=0&id=6564

I kinda agree with those teams being in the top places, but maybe I'll reorder them a bit... I just don't see England as the second one for example.

[kapalmabur]

Yes, and the truth is, Byron Casstillo had a very bad time, I saw a video where he himself said that he should be removed from the team in order not to damage Ecuador's classification, however, the Chileans were very bad, and it was not only the Italians who speculated that they were , the Colombians were hoping they would go to the World Cup, I honestly don't like Ecuador's style of football, sometimes they have explosiveness in their plays, maybe I would have liked Italy to go, but that's football, although now I don't see how boring the matches are, there are many without flavors from countries that want and deserve to go to the World Cup and this is something that is used with more inclusions.

Lop-sided matches will be there even if the number of participant countries remain at 32. The main argument from FIFA was that it wanted to give more chances to teams from the CAF and AFC. But even with the current qualification system, teams that qualify from these two confederations struggle against the teams from CONMEBOL and UEFA. Remember the inaugural match from the last world cup? Russia thrashed Saudi Arabia by a margin of 5-0. And this is despite the fact that Saudi Arabia is considered as one of the strongest teams in the AFC, and Russia doesn't rank among the top-20 UEFA nations.

Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

It is very unfortunate that the countries you mentioned were unable to qualify for this year's World Cup.
in particular is Italy where they are one of the European countries that have a tradition in the World Cup but in fact they have not participated in two editions of the World Cup,
what is clear is that this is a new world cup because it is held in November and hopefully it will be even more interesting

[Sithara007]

Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

Russia would have qualified for the world cup, but based on the complaints by Poland and Ukraine, FIFA decided to suspend their participation. If Russia can be suspended for the war against Ukraine, then I don't know why the US was not banned after their invasions of Iraq, Syria and Libya. Anyway, Russia will be missed, along with the teams that failed to qualify such as Italy. In case of the latter, it was unexpected. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that they will lose to North Macedonia. Lesson learnt. Never ever underestimate Goran Pandev.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Do we have already odds for the FIFA World Cup 2022? I think that's more likely best to know rather than just saying there's easy or not for the groups. What I mean is odds for every group if ever there is. I don't think that it will always favor on the South American continent, even the defending champion is from Europe.

Well, in reality, the statistics on the soccer teams for this World Cup are very partial to what everyone thinks, I have seen many who affirm that this World Cup is for Argentina, Germany, France or Brazil, for many these are the favorite teams and although technically and at the level of results they can be very likely to win, we have to be aware of the possible surprises that some other teams can give, the majority do not have much faith in Portugal, some put their hopes in Germany, if I am honest I would have I'm pinning my hopes on Italy, but since they won't be in this World Cup either, I think I'd lean more towards Brazil.

Yes, and the truth is, Byron Casstillo had a very bad time, I saw a video where he himself said that he should be removed from the team in order not to damage Ecuador's classification, however, the Chileans were very bad, and it was not only the Italians who speculated that they were , the Colombians were hoping they would go to the World Cup, I honestly don't like Ecuador's style of football, sometimes they have explosiveness in their plays, maybe I would have liked Italy to go, but that's football, although now I don't see how boring the matches are, there are many without flavors from countries that want and deserve to go to the World Cup and this is something that is used with more inclusions.

Lop-sided matches will be there even if the number of participant countries remain at 32. The main argument from FIFA was that it wanted to give more chances to teams from the CAF and AFC. But even with the current qualification system, teams that qualify from these two confederations struggle against the teams from CONMEBOL and UEFA. Remember the inaugural match from the last world cup? Russia thrashed Saudi Arabia by a margin of 5-0. And this is despite the fact that Saudi Arabia is considered as one of the strongest teams in the AFC, and Russia doesn't rank among the top-20 UEFA nations.

Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

It is very unfortunate that the countries you mentioned were unable to qualify for this year's World Cup.
in particular is Italy where they are one of the European countries that have a tradition in the World Cup but in fact they have not participated in two editions of the World Cup,
what is clear is that this is a new world cup because it is held in November and hopefully it will be even more interesting

Yes, I am not Italian, but I am a fan of that country, Italy for me represents that elegant football, that beautiful football and with a very nice style in particular, however I think that now that it will be done and celebrated with more countries, Italy must be there present.

Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

Russia would have qualified for the world cup, but based on the complaints by Poland and Ukraine, FIFA decided to suspend their participation. If Russia can be suspended for the war against Ukraine, then I don't know why the US was not banned after their invasions of Iraq, Syria and Libya. Anyway, Russia will be missed, along with the teams that failed to qualify such as Italy. In case of the latter, it was unexpected. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that they will lose to North Macedonia. Lesson learnt. Never ever underestimate Goran Pandev.

That's what they say, but those are things that are decided by elites much higher than what is normally handled, I don't particularly like that soccer teams are kicked out just for political problems, I understand that this is a problem that goes much further, and what a pure logic to having so many war drums is logical, but in the Russian team there are good players, players who have been training since they were children, who have made a career in other teams and that is not fair to them However, I think that they have no intention of wars or anything, it is very difficult for them to live under the yoke of a Russian president who only wants to take over an already consolidated country, so much so that it has affected the sport.

[famososMuertos]

Hey! OP;
Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights:
Fortunately for all football fans, although there is thoughts happy of those teams who qualified but also for the sadness of others, we already have the group stage defined with the national teams.

Try and make use of search to make sure the topic you want to create has not been created before, especially the main leagues and tournaments, like this FIFA world cup 2022.

You can lock this thread and follow this active JollyGood's thread:

⚽ FIFA World Cup 2022: Qualifying Games For Qatar

In fact there is another one that even differs by hours, I could share the idea of a different approach in its context with reference to the theme of the soccer world cup.

In any case, @Asiska02 at least update the OP, follow up on the topic, everyone makes their own topics, post as you wish, it's the "freedom" of the forum and sometimes it's not bad to leave an OP/Topic behind, but if there is something to update should be made.
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- ⚽ FIFA World Cup 2022: Qualifying Games For Qatar
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[Daniel91]

Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

Russia would have qualified for the world cup, but based on the complaints by Poland and Ukraine, FIFA decided to suspend their participation. If Russia can be suspended for the war against Ukraine, then I don't know why the US was not banned after their invasions of Iraq, Syria and Libya. Anyway, Russia will be missed, along with the teams that failed to qualify such as Italy. In case of the latter, it was unexpected. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that they will lose to North Macedonia. Lesson learnt. Never ever underestimate Goran Pandev.

I watched Russia's matches because they played in the qualifying group with Croatia and they didn't impress me at all. They played a lot of games poorly and were lucky to get points.
Slovakia completely outplayed them in the match in Russia and completely undeservedly lost the key match for second place in the group and additional qualifications.
Russia quite luckily made it to the additional qualifications for the World Cup, but there they would have no chance of qualifying for the World Cup.
Macedonia's successes are no longer a surprise. Before Italy, they also beat Germany away from home. Only those who have not been following this national team lately can be surprised. This is a great team.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well there is something that is very clear, and it is that Russia in its eagerness to reach the world cup, from what I have read I think that they would not have been able to do it, the level of football is currently very high, I only hope that all these problems of possible wars end and reach an agreement, the truth is that it is not nice to see people fighting and dying due to the whims of governments that cannot come to an agreement, it is obvious that this is already a geo-political problem that has affected football, and not only to soccer also to all sports, Russians or Russian players and athletes do not want war, they want to compete, they want to excel in sport, I hope that for the next World Cup everyone will have the same opportunities and all this will be a lesson.

[Sithara007]

I watched Russia's matches because they played in the qualifying group with Croatia and they didn't impress me at all. They played a lot of games poorly and were lucky to get points.
Slovakia completely outplayed them in the match in Russia and completely undeservedly lost the key match for second place in the group and additional qualifications.
Russia quite luckily made it to the additional qualifications for the World Cup, but there they would have no chance of qualifying for the World Cup.
Macedonia's successes are no longer a surprise. Before Italy, they also beat Germany away from home. Only those who have not been following this national team lately can be surprised. This is a great team.

Historically, Russia has been a very volatile team. Sometimes they perform really well and then for sometime they perform horribly. But I thought that they did well in the UEFA qualifiers. They were placed in a tough group along with Croatia, and still managed to finish second (Croatia had 23 points, Russia ended with 22). They were supposed to play against Poland but the latter made a complaint against them and got a walkover. And POland managed to qualify for the world cup, by defeating Sweden in the playoff.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

Russia would have qualified for the world cup, but based on the complaints by Poland and Ukraine, FIFA decided to suspend their participation. If Russia can be suspended for the war against Ukraine, then I don't know why the US was not banned after their invasions of Iraq, Syria and Libya. Anyway, Russia will be missed, along with the teams that failed to qualify such as Italy. In case of the latter, it was unexpected. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that they will lose to North Macedonia. Lesson learnt. Never ever underestimate Goran Pandev.

I watched Russia's matches because they played in the qualifying group with Croatia and they didn't impress me at all. They played a lot of games poorly and were lucky to get points.
Slovakia completely outplayed them in the match in Russia and completely undeservedly lost the key match for second place in the group and additional qualifications.
Russia quite luckily made it to the additional qualifications for the World Cup, but there they would have no chance of qualifying for the World Cup.
Macedonia's successes are no longer a surprise. Before Italy, they also beat Germany away from home. Only those who have not been following this national team lately can be surprised. This is a great team.

To be honest, Macedonia, the time I saw them play, I was surprised by everything they did, they took out one of the heavyweights, but they did not qualify anyway, I wonder if these teams that went to the playoffs will make a difference, I mean Portugal that has a lot to prove and especially to CR7 that has a great commitment, I have always liked Croatian football, the style they have is very particular, besides that they have that style with elegance, I really like it On the other hand, I think that Macedonia will go to the next World Cup, more quotas will be opened and I think that this can benefit them enormously if they maintain the level or raise it even more.

[alegotardo]

To be honest, Macedonia, the time I saw them play, I was surprised by everything they did, they took out one of the heavyweights, but they did not qualify anyway, I wonder if these teams that went to the playoffs will make a difference, I mean Portugal that has a lot to prove and especially to CR7 that has a great commitment, I have always liked Croatian football, the style they have is very particular, besides that they have that style with elegance, I really like it On the other hand, I think that Macedonia will go to the next World Cup, more quotas will be opened and I think that this can benefit them enormously if they maintain the level or raise it even more.

Macedonia shocked the world when they defeated Italy and eliminated their chances of contesting the World Cup.
Macedonia has never won a world cup, Italy has 4 world titles, was it just luck that the goal occurred in the second half stoppage time? I don't think so... Macedonia played very well and deserved to win.
Despite being eliminated by Portugal, I hope that Macedonia continues to evolve and that they can qualify for the next world cup.... I'm curious to see what they are capable of doing.

[Daniel91]

Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

Russia would have qualified for the world cup, but based on the complaints by Poland and Ukraine, FIFA decided to suspend their participation. If Russia can be suspended for the war against Ukraine, then I don't know why the US was not banned after their invasions of Iraq, Syria and Libya. Anyway, Russia will be missed, along with the teams that failed to qualify such as Italy. In case of the latter, it was unexpected. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that they will lose to North Macedonia. Lesson learnt. Never ever underestimate Goran Pandev.

I watched Russia's matches because they played in the qualifying group with Croatia and they didn't impress me at all. They played a lot of games poorly and were lucky to get points.
Slovakia completely outplayed them in the match in Russia and completely undeservedly lost the key match for second place in the group and additional qualifications.
Russia quite luckily made it to the additional qualifications for the World Cup, but there they would have no chance of qualifying for the World Cup.
Macedonia's successes are no longer a surprise. Before Italy, they also beat Germany away from home. Only those who have not been following this national team lately can be surprised. This is a great team.

To be honest, Macedonia, the time I saw them play, I was surprised by everything they did, they took out one of the heavyweights, but they did not qualify anyway, I wonder if these teams that went to the playoffs will make a difference, I mean Portugal that has a lot to prove and especially to CR7 that has a great commitment, I have always liked Croatian football, the style they have is very particular, besides that they have that style with elegance, I really like it On the other hand, I think that Macedonia will go to the next World Cup, more quotas will be opened and I think that this can benefit them enormously if they maintain the level or raise it even more.

Macedonia is not a surprise for me, don't forget that they also beat Germany away in the group stage of the World Cup qualifiers. It is their misfortune that the draw of additional qualifications awarded them the two strongest national teams, Portugal and Italy. If they had at least a little luck in the draw, they would now be preparing for the world championship in Qatar.
Croatia has been playing at a very high level for a very long time, and in 1998 they were third in the world, and in 2018 they were second in the world, which is proof that it is not a matter of luck but deserved results. I think they will be very good again in Qatar. 

[nullama]

To be honest, Macedonia, the time I saw them play, I was surprised by everything they did, they took out one of the heavyweights, but they did not qualify anyway, I wonder if these teams that went to the playoffs will make a difference, I mean Portugal that has a lot to prove and especially to CR7 that has a great commitment, I have always liked Croatian football, the style they have is very particular, besides that they have that style with elegance, I really like it On the other hand, I think that Macedonia will go to the next World Cup, more quotas will be opened and I think that this can benefit them enormously if they maintain the level or raise it even more.

Macedonia shocked the world when they defeated Italy and eliminated their chances of contesting the World Cup.
Macedonia has never won a world cup, Italy has 4 world titles, was it just luck that the goal occurred in the second half stoppage time? I don't think so... Macedonia played very well and deserved to win.
Despite being eliminated by Portugal, I hope that Macedonia continues to evolve and that they can qualify for the next world cup.... I'm curious to see what they are capable of doing.

Yeah, I'm not really sure Macedonia has a great squad. They can play alright but they are not really world cup material to be honest.

[Daniel91]

To be honest, Macedonia, the time I saw them play, I was surprised by everything they did, they took out one of the heavyweights, but they did not qualify anyway, I wonder if these teams that went to the playoffs will make a difference, I mean Portugal that has a lot to prove and especially to CR7 that has a great commitment, I have always liked Croatian football, the style they have is very particular, besides that they have that style with elegance, I really like it On the other hand, I think that Macedonia will go to the next World Cup, more quotas will be opened and I think that this can benefit them enormously if they maintain the level or raise it even more.

Macedonia shocked the world when they defeated Italy and eliminated their chances of contesting the World Cup.
Macedonia has never won a world cup, Italy has 4 world titles, was it just luck that the goal occurred in the second half stoppage time? I don't think so... Macedonia played very well and deserved to win.
Despite being eliminated by Portugal, I hope that Macedonia continues to evolve and that they can qualify for the next world cup.... I'm curious to see what they are capable of doing.

Yeah, I'm not really sure Macedonia has a great squad. They can play alright but they are not really world cup material to be honest.

Of course, Macedonia can't be compared with top national teams like Brazil or France, but they are still a very good team that has already achieved several great results in these qualifications, such as victories against Germany and Italy away from home, so it is clear that their successes are not accidental.
Macedonia had the misfortune of entering the toughest possible group, with Portugal and Italy, in the additional qualifiers for the World Cup. If they had been lucky in the draw, I have no doubt that they would have qualified for the World Cup.
At the world championship, there are a lot of teams that are weaker than Macedonia.

[W Jr.]

Do we have already odds for the FIFA World Cup 2022? I think that's more likely best to know rather than just saying there's easy or not for the groups. What I mean is odds for every group if ever there is. I don't think that it will always favor on the South American continent, even the defending champion is from Europe.

Europe has some really top teams. South America, on the other hand, stands out as the countries where Brazil and Argentina have a high probability of winning. There are even big countries such as Italy that cannot participate in the cup from Europe. I know it's too early to say anything before the tournament starts, but I think the champion will most likely come out of Europe.

[rdluffy]

Do we have already odds for the FIFA World Cup 2022? I think that's more likely best to know rather than just saying there's easy or not for the groups. What I mean is odds for every group if ever there is. I don't think that it will always favor on the South American continent, even the defending champion is from Europe.

Europe has some really top teams. South America, on the other hand, stands out as the countries where Brazil and Argentina have a high probability of winning. There are even big countries such as Italy that cannot participate in the cup from Europe. I know it's too early to say anything before the tournament starts, but I think the champion will most likely come out of Europe.

It's interesting to talk about South America vs Europe
Europe has 12 titles, South America has 9
But South America has 3 strong teams, Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay
Europe has France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Portugal, Belgium and England

these I consider top tier teams, with real chances of winning a cup

Looking at the odds, you'll see top 3 is probably Brazil, Argentina and France
I saw England ahead of Argentina on some odds but I don't agree, in my opinion Argentina is the 3rd favorite

[nullama]

It's interesting to talk about South America vs Europe
Europe has 12 titles, South America has 9
But South America has 3 strong teams, Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay
Europe has France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Portugal, Belgium and England

these I consider top tier teams, with real chances of winning a cup

Looking at the odds, you'll see top 3 is probably Brazil, Argentina and France
I saw England ahead of Argentina on some odds but I don't agree, in my opinion Argentina is the 3rd favorite

Yeah, I agree with you. Brazil is probably going to win this world cup, at least it has the best historical scores. Argentina is always a really good team. I would put Germany there instead of France though.

[rahmad2nd]

IMO, germany will not go further than the top 8, their squad has a lot of shortcomings than the french squad which incidentally has far more depth than germany.

indeed there is no guarantee at all, it all depends on teamwork within a football squad.
However, if you calculate the strength from an individual perspective, France is more superior to Germany, you can even say when compared to other teams from the European continent.

Once again I say, this is only based on my opinion and analysis, not at all determining the truth.

[nullama]

IMO, germany will not go further than the top 8, their squad has a lot of shortcomings than the french squad which incidentally has far more depth than germany.

indeed there is no guarantee at all, it all depends on teamwork within a football squad.
However, if you calculate the strength from an individual perspective, France is more superior to Germany, you can even say when compared to other teams from the European continent.

Once again I say, this is only based on my opinion and analysis, not at all determining the truth.

I'm not sure I can name eight better teams than Germany.

Maybe four, but I definitely see Germany as a top 8 team.