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Question: Which of the team do you think will win the Final
Argentina - 55 (69.6%)
France - 24 (30.4%)
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December 11, 2022, 09:22:28 PM
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English national team been eliminated in the World Cup does not mean that the play shity football. Those guys are all professional players, and they had a good ride up through the quarterfinals.
England did well in this competition, they played and looked like they were going to win the game against france, but France managed the game properly to the end. We cannot say any team were more dominant in the game, both teams had their moments from what I saw. There are many young players in the England National football team, they have a good future ahead with the performance they were able to show in this world cup. They will have a better chance in the next competition with the little experience that these current young players will gain before that time.
Nobody is kicking against the performance of England in the match between them and France, because when looking at France notice that they managed their game very well, and protect their goal at last, what i expected england to equalize the match through the penalty but England was under tension, it's not that France played to the extent of making England to lose courage, the thing is that England luck run against them and if not, the match would have ended penalty and their is every possibility that they would have win France.
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December 11, 2022, 09:45:02 PM
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If you read through Christana Ronaldo social media post today you will see how heart breaking it was for the legend to retire from active football without winning world cup for his country, but this is football anything can happen so Ronaldo has to man up and be grateful for all he has achieved in his football career.
Surely a world cup title was all that was missing for Ronaldo to win before the world cup began, he has won everything that there is to win in football, and now Portugal have been eliminated in the quarter final, bringing Ronaldo's quest for the world cup title to an end, his situation is most sad because this is his last world cup tournament, he would probably have retired by the time the next world cup is played. I believe Ronaldo would have possibly played in the next Euro tournament that is coming up in two years time, but i don't think he will, the manager has already started benching him, and if he doesn't retire now in the hope of playing in Euro 2024 he might not even be called up to the national team, so the best thing for Ronaldo is to retire now with his great legacy.

Would it be a tragedy for him not to be called up to the national team? Believe me, you can think of many reasons and excuses why he was not called up, ranging from injury to a player's personal reluctance to play for the national team. He will continue to play anyway, he has a month to find a team and I am sure he will be fine.

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December 11, 2022, 09:48:01 PM
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I'm sure the quarter-finals team still has the same chance but for Morocco they have to face the seeded team again in the semifinals, that's the tough road they have to go through to reach the final.
I can't really say the semi final will be a easy one for Morroco, but I think it won't really be a easy one for France also, Morroco have being surprising everyone, nobody believe that they will go this far, Morroco didn't lose any match in their group stage, Morroco defeat Spain in knock out stage, Morroco defeated Portugal in quarter final, don't underestimate Morroco in semi final, I know it will be a very tough match because France will put all their efforts to win Morroco, since they see the way Morroco have being playing they won't want to take any chances.
aside from that argentina has a bigger chance to step into the final.
Seriously I will like to see Morroco and Croatia in final, I just hope Morroco will be able to defeat France and Croatia will be able to defeat Argentina, so that Morroco and Croatia will fight for the 1st position in world cup and France VS Argentina will fight for the third position.

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December 11, 2022, 09:52:43 PM
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England vs France yesterday was a very interesting match. The results proved that sometimes stats are not a reflection of what a team looks like, judging by the stats England were the favorite to win the match. But France found it more easier to win, England didn’t stand a chance against the French defense. I expected more from England because I watch the English premier league regularly and had high hopes for the English team. Is England overrated?
England is has a great team when it comes to football, I don't think they are overrated, it is just that France is better, I don't know where you found the stats that made you believe that England would or should win against France, but from the odds in online sportsbooks, it showed that gamblers were betting massively on France, so I am personally not surprised that France won, from the initial beginning of the match, I expected them to win, it would have been a surprise to me if they didn't.
So for me, I don't think England is overrated, they are indeed good, but from all indications, France is better in football than England.

Considering the balance between France and England, France is a stronger team.  I think the balance is in favor of France.  England is never a weak team.  They are still unlucky in terms of penalties.  Had Kane scored the second penalty, they could have gone to overtime and maybe even won.  It was what a lot of people expected, and France won.  For me, the dream for Morocco will be this far.  It's really hard to beat France.
England did well but I don't know why they have always been so unlucky when it comes to international competitions like this. Only if Kane was able to convert that second penalty maybe they would have been able to change the outcome of the game in penalties or get a third goal before the last minute. The good thing is they have a very young and talented team who still have a chance to prove their worth in the next world cup.

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December 11, 2022, 09:57:47 PM
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aside from that argentina has a bigger chance to step into the final.
Seriously I will like to see Morroco and Croatia in final, I just hope Morroco will be able to defeat France and Croatia will be able to defeat Argentina, so that Morroco and Croatia will fight for the 1st position in world cup and France VS Argentina will fight for the third position.
Myself too have the same wish of Morocco and Croatia making to the final. This time both Argentina and France will take it seriously and do the best from the very beginning. Each missing opportunity will down the play progress. I even placed bet on Croatia and Morocco and my prayers are for them to win the match. From the beginning we have come across surprises. Let the semifinals too bring big surprise.

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December 11, 2022, 09:59:14 PM
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England did well but I don't know why they have always been so unlucky when it comes to international competitions like this. Only if Kane was able to convert that second penalty maybe they would have been able to change the outcome of the game in penalties or get a third goal before the last minute. The good thing is they have a very young and talented team who still have a chance to prove their worth in the next world cup.
In the match France vs England, I agree that England was just unlucky.
They actually dominated the match, they were leading in the total shot attempts and they won the ball possessions. Unfortunately, they only can get a score from a penalty shot. The worse situation, Kane failed to score in the second penalty kick. I think it was very unlucky, sure they may have a chance to get a different result if Kane succeeds to score in the second penalty kick.

You are right that England has many young players who have great skills and talents. They still have many chances to win the world cup titles in the future. England team has a good future with their current squad.


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December 11, 2022, 10:03:14 PM
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At this point, the final should be France-Argentina but this World cup is a strange one, in the winter in the middle of the season with 40°C around in the desert.

Any info in Benzema that will be called for the last 2 games? Or even only for the final?

He is still on the list so technically he can play.
The ideal final should be indeed france vs argentina but people might want to see morocco beat france and meet argentina in the final and let's dont forget croatia who never in the spotlight but always killing their opponent silently , if there is a super extraordinary final maybe croatia vs morocco in the final would be a crazy moment.

Benzema just back earlier today into real madrid training session and confirmed he won't join the france squad.

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December 11, 2022, 10:04:38 PM
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Argentina is a more likely team for the final match than Croatia.  However, nothing can be guaranteed in the game.  So we cannot ignore Croatia.  Because Croatia defeated a strong team like Brazil in the quarter-finals and got a chance in the semi-finals . Croatia's style of play is good enough and Morocco on the other hand are very likely for the final
Of course, no one should ignore the 4 countries currently in the semi-finals. Morocco, Argentina, Croatia and France are the best teams so they are in this round. The biggest scenario is France vs Argentina in the final round, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that there will be a Morocco vs Croatia match. What I want to see more now is that Morocco can beat France and Croatia can get rid of Argentina in this round. If that happens then it will be a very interesting show. Grin
anything can happen . We'll just have to see.  And as a supporter you have to cheer when the team wins and regret when they lose. It is not possible for us to do more than that because the players will play on the field in their own way and not according to our words.  And every team wants to win the match so everyone tries their best to play well. stay truth


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December 11, 2022, 10:06:23 PM
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Ohh no matter what , can we please have Argentina vs France in final ? Grin Cause in this way, we are locked in for sure in a spectacular game from start to finish with most likely France winning it again which will be crazy! Last country who manage to defend the title was Brazil and it was quite a long time ago and France has the greatest chance right now to achieve what Italy and Brazil did.


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In the match France vs England, I agree that England was just unlucky.
They actually dominated the match, they were leading in the total shot attempts and they won the ball possessions. Unfortunately, they only can get a score from a penalty shot. The worse situation, Kane failed to score in the second penalty kick.


It's not just "lucky factor".
Every time England start a competition as if they are the super favorites, [an example was in the last europeans of 2020 in which they lost (at home) against italy] but they haven't won an international competition since 1966!
Among other things penalties are always a negative point in their performance... also in 2020 they lost for the same reason.

France is a much more "compact and well-known" team.
no surprise they arrived at this stage even during this competition.

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December 11, 2022, 10:10:02 PM
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Ohh no matter what , can we please have Argentina vs France in final ? Grin Cause in this way, we are locked in for sure in a spectacular game from start to finish with most likely France winning it again which will be crazy! Last country who manage to defend the title was Brazil and it was quite a long time ago and France has the greatest chance right now to achieve what Italy and Brazil did.



I'm of the complete opposite.  I want to see morroco and Croatia battle for it all.  Unless you are a fan of one of the other teams how does it not get better than that?  Guaranteed a winner from a team who has never won it and quite possibly from a team who's entire continent has never won it.  Would be a pack it in final and definitely a low scoring game but that's what I want to see.

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December 11, 2022, 10:15:11 PM
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England vs France yesterday was a very interesting match. The results proved that sometimes stats are not a reflection of what a team looks like, judging by the stats England were the favorite to win the match. But France found it more easier to win, England didn’t stand a chance against the French defense. I expected more from England because I watch the English premier league regularly and had high hopes for the English team. Is England overrated?
England is has a great team when it comes to football, I don't think they are overrated, it is just that France is better, I don't know where you found the stats that made you believe that England would or should win against France, but from the odds in online sportsbooks, it showed that gamblers were betting massively on France, so I am personally not surprised that France won, from the initial beginning of the match, I expected them to win, it would have been a surprise to me if they didn't.
So for me, I don't think England is overrated, they are indeed good, but from all indications, France is better in football than England.

Considering the balance between France and England, France is a stronger team.  I think the balance is in favor of France.  England is never a weak team.  They are still unlucky in terms of penalties.  Had Kane scored the second penalty, they could have gone to overtime and maybe even won.  It was what a lot of people expected, and France won.  For me, the dream for Morocco will be this far.  It's really hard to beat France.
England did well but I don't know why they have always been so unlucky when it comes to international competitions like this. Only if Kane was able to convert that second penalty maybe they would have been able to change the outcome of the game in penalties or get a third goal before the last minute. The good thing is they have a very young and talented team who still have a chance to prove their worth in the next world cup.
You are right about them having young players who have the gift of time to improve in their skills and play better in the next world cup, but I would say or conclude that they are unlucky, the game of football has a very small part of it tied to luck, the most important part of strategy and tactics, in football, a team can be unlucky but can easily convert that to being lucky if they have a good playing strategy and tactics that their opponent don't know of, or one that their opponents even know of but don't have an antidote to it.

England will do well in the next world cup if they would improve in their strategies/style of play and tactics, they are already good in terms of play abilities, but they are yet to discover their hidden styles that when engaged, would throw their opponent into total confusion.

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December 11, 2022, 10:21:35 PM
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Argentina's goalkeeper isn't bad either. Has been a real penalty killer in the match against the Netherlands. Many people will have missed it, but Morocco has only conceded 1 goal in the entire tournament and that was also an own goal. They also beat Morocco 2-0, Belgium still has a strong team. It didn't matter much if Belgium had continued instead of Croatia. And then we might have had Belgium - Argentina. How nice would that have been? Too bad the tournament is already starting its last week. So you see that a World Cup is also over in no time. Tuesday is the first semi-final between Croatia and Argentina.
Martinez has always been a good goal keeper who has been hiding under the shadows of other players, after breaking through with Arsenal he has lived up to expectation ever since and progressing so well. Morocco are making history already in this world cup and I wish they can maintain and hold up until the end. It will be marvelous to see Morocco an African nation winning it for the first time in history.

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He also talked about how Van Gaal saying they would have a bigger advantage at penalties fired him up for sure. He talked about how Van Gaal should shut up Cheesy When you talk about these type of stuff, goalkeepers take notice, and the real good ones will use that as fire to burn them to be better. It is also a very scary situation because its literally like 5-10 minutes max, probably just 5 minutes all deciding everything, so even the smallest touches would make it very important and clear. I personally found it great, Martinez saved 2 shots that decided the whole thing, quite big deal.

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December 11, 2022, 10:32:04 PM
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I have to be honest, I didn't expect a World Cup like this. Almost all the favorites were eliminated and when we look at the remaining teams, France is the only favorite. Obviously we have seen very sad results in this tournament. Portugal's elimination and Ronaldo's underappreciation even though it was his last tournament made me sad. When I look at the semi-final matches, I think Argentina and France will meet in the final.

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December 11, 2022, 10:35:54 PM
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Ohh no matter what , can we please have Argentina vs France in final ? Grin Cause in this way, we are locked in for sure in a spectacular game from start to finish with most likely France winning it again which will be crazy! Last country who manage to defend the title was Brazil and it was quite a long time ago and France has the greatest chance right now to achieve what Italy and Brazil did.

That's the most possible final but I wouldn't say no to any final. Honestly I want Messi to win the trophy but we should accept that without Messi Argentina is just an ordinary team. In history always top teams won this tournament. Even though we saw a lot of surprise teams in semi finals, we didn't see any surprise winner. France has the best squad and right now they probably have the lowest odds, I didn't see championship odds though.
There are so many funny possibilities, we might see Croatia - France final same as last time, see an African team in finals first time, see all of the favorites eliminated before final etc. I'm okay with every possibilities. This may be the weirdest World Cup from start to finish, from location to local rules, results to -maybe- finalists.

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December 11, 2022, 10:39:24 PM
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I'm sure the quarter-finals team still has the same chance but for Morocco they have to face the seeded team again in the semifinals, that's the tough road they have to go through to reach the final.
I can't really say the semi final will be a easy one for Morroco, but I think it won't really be a easy one for France also, Morroco have being surprising everyone, nobody believe that they will go this far, Morroco didn't lose any match in their group stage, Morroco defeat Spain in knock out stage, Morroco defeated Portugal in quarter final, don't underestimate Morroco in semi final, I know it will be a very tough match because France will put all their efforts to win Morroco, since they see the way Morroco have being playing they won't want to take any chances.
aside from that argentina has a bigger chance to step into the final.
Seriously I will like to see Morroco and Croatia in final, I just hope Morroco will be able to defeat France and Croatia will be able to defeat Argentina, so that Morroco and Croatia will fight for the 1st position in world cup and France VS Argentina will fight for the third position.
And that's when anything can happen...

I believe that almost nobody would imagine that Morocco could reach the semifinals, that would be something unlikely.
 
Their performance far exceeded everyone's expectations, that's clear!
Possibly the Moroccan team will play with less pressure and France will have to impose itself during the game.

Morocco eliminated Spain and Portugal, not discrediting Morocco's team but that was something surreal!
I have no doubt that the Morocco team will donate 1000%, as this will be one of the main matches of their lives!

Even if France wins 4-0, Morocco's team will come out as a winner! It surprised the whole world and had a formidable performance!

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December 11, 2022, 10:43:53 PM
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Ohh no matter what , can we please have Argentina vs France in final ? Grin Cause in this way, we are locked in for sure in a spectacular game from start to finish with most likely France winning it again which will be crazy! Last country who manage to defend the title was Brazil and it was quite a long time ago and France has the greatest chance right now to achieve what Italy and Brazil did.


morocco is no longer the underdog now, they are a terrible team at the moment and even many big teams have been beaten by them, that doesn't mean that france won't be the next target for morocco to return home, no one knows what surprises will be in the semifinals later and that hard to guess, even though previously I thought Brazil would meet France in the final, it turns out that Croatia had eliminated Brazil in the quarter-finals yesterday

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December 11, 2022, 10:45:12 PM
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You are right about them having young players who have the gift of time to improve in their skills and play better in the next world cup, but I would say or conclude that they are unlucky, the game of football has a very small part of it tied to luck, the most important part of strategy and tactics, in football, a team can be unlucky but can easily convert that to being lucky if they have a good playing strategy and tactics that their opponent don't know of, or one that their opponents even know of but don't have an antidote to it.

England will do well in the next world cup if they would improve in their strategies/style of play and tactics, they are already good in terms of play abilities, but they are yet to discover their hidden styles that when engaged, would throw their opponent into total confusion.
The world cup is where most talents are been discovered with the introduction of new players with a particular need of leaving a mark by being pretty impressive. Old and young talents, a combination of experience and youthful speed/talent.

For what I worth, England is one of the luckiest te in this world cup and could have got a clean ticket to the semi finals but they threw it all out to the wind or should I say, Harry Kane facilitated there exit

I didn't understand why he chose to take all them penalties. Like, he was against Lloris, his team mate and captain, they've got years and experience together, trained together and you could see the tension build up between them especially for Harry Kane as he was to attempt a come back for his team. The best he could have done is let someone else take the shoot but, he wants to add to his goals and being the penalty takers for England, he sent it out wide and there goes England.

They had a good squad for this year, let's hope it doesn't deteriorate in the next 4years.

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December 11, 2022, 10:56:31 PM
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Argentina's goalkeeper isn't bad either. Has been a real penalty killer in the match against the Netherlands. Many people will have missed it, but Morocco has only conceded 1 goal in the entire tournament and that was also an own goal. They also beat Morocco 2-0, Belgium still has a strong team. It didn't matter much if Belgium had continued instead of Croatia. And then we might have had Belgium - Argentina. How nice would that have been? Too bad the tournament is already starting its last week. So you see that a World Cup is also over in no time. Tuesday is the first semi-final between Croatia and Argentina.
Morocco is really an extraordinary team, I also can't deny that their goalkeeper is really an extraordinary goalkeeper, apart from that the Moroccan defenders are also very solid. in the preliminary round, morocco has against Croatia and the result was a draw

I'm sure France will try hard to beat morocco in the semifinals, if Francis wins then we will probably see the same final in 2018 ago

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