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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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November 06, 2022, 03:21:00 PM
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I might be wrong. But I make this conclusion due to the table. I didn't make comparison according to the players. According to this season table the PSG is looking better than the Madrid. I know you have seen the table but here you can see ut again.





If you like pure facts so much, how do you explain that Real Madrid is in first place and PSG is in second place (couldn't even beat Benfica lol)?  Grin Benfica is better than PSG, that's a fact  Wink

Very interesting Smiley
Personally, I think that Real and Manchester City have the best chances to win the Champions League.
However, it must be admitted that Bayern has played fantastically in the Champions League so far, in a very difficult group with Barcelona and Inter, and bookies probably trust Bayern the most because of their results in the Champions League so far.
Last season showed that initial results do not mean much and that the final winner of the Champions League will be the team that is mentally the strongest and most prepared.
In PSG there are obvious problems in the relationship between the main players, Mbappe and Neymar and because of that I don't see them winning the Champions League this season.
Liverpool started the season weaker, but that doesn't mean much. Liverpool is a very high quality and experienced team and I expect them to play much better in the rest of the season. I don't give the other clubs much of a chance to win the Champions League this season.

Liverpool are experienced cup fighters and their poor start is really unimportant in the later stages of the competition. But I think the pool of contenders is wider than you have indicated - Chelsea are also doing well in the knockout format. In general, almost every team has a chance (and time to prepare for the playoffs).

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November 06, 2022, 04:16:49 PM
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Liverpool will feel very pressured if they have to meet Real Madrid in the round of 16, because Real Madrid is a team that often has good performances in the Champions League and very often beats big teams from any league in the Champions League. It looks like Liverpool must really give everything if the next match in the Champions League meets Real Madrid directly, because Liverpool definitely knows that the quality of Real Madrid in the Champions League is still very important this season.
In football anything can happen. That's what we need to remember. Even though Real Madrid is the reigning champion of the Champions League and is still in the best form so far, it doesn't mean that we (Liverpool) cannot finish them if the draw for the last 16 is Real Madrid will face Liverpool.
Anyone who will face Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League will definitely be difficult, but it is possible they can get rid of Real Madrid.
When you say this, of course it's the same for Liverpool, isn't it, especially with their current condition of starting in the EPL and the Champions League is not too good, it's clear that their chances are smaller than Madrid.
Even though in football anything can happen but when it comes to statistics and performances this season, it is clear that Madrid will still be the favorite.
Liverpool's fans may not be able to accept this performance of Liverpool at present. Because this kind of game is never expected from a team like Liverpool. I think Liverpool is one of the best teams in the English Premier League. But they haven't been able to sustain their best start to the season. But Liverpool is going through a bad time now, I believe Liverpool will turn around again very soon. And I believe they will come back strong in the UEFA Champions League.
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November 06, 2022, 04:46:42 PM
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I would like to see psg and Manchester city playing against each other's in the next round because i believe this clashe will determine who will be the champoin this year, both teams are in a very good format and i believe one of them will be able to get the trophy this year
That would be a very interesting match to see that PSG will face city. I can't wait what will be the next opponent for city and PSG. I hope that city will come the big team like bayern or PSG. I thin you shall not also forgot if there are two team that have higher chance than city and PSG to win the champion league for this season and these clubs are madrid and bayern munich. I think that you do know so well the history from both if you were regularly watching champion league for any season.

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November 06, 2022, 04:58:42 PM
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I'm still not too sure about that, especially in the last 16 there is a possibility that they will face a Big Match considering that they have to be in second place in the group phase so it is very likely that they will do the same Big Match in this phase as last season.
In terms of players in the squad they are still very decent but of course this is not only a matter of players but the coach's scheme is also taken into account and you could say Galtier is a debutant for the Champions League so this could be something that is indeed the same as last season.
The potential for a big match in the round of 16 is very likely to happen, we'll just have to wait for the draw to be made. Everything can change, because we will face a long holiday, so the potential for the team to change as a whole will be very possible. Not only for Paris Saint Germain, but other teams will do the work to improve before the round of 16 is held.
We're still waiting until tomorrow to see the draw for the last 16 and I'm waiting for Liverpool in this regard because it will also be a bit tough for them considering that the chances of a big match for them are huge.
The reason is because apart from definitely not going to play Napoli they also won't be facing Tottenham, Manchester City and Chelsea so the rest means they have the potential to face strong opponents as there are still Madrid and Bayern they might have to avoid.

Liverpool's fans may not be able to accept this performance of Liverpool at present. Because this kind of game is never expected from a team like Liverpool. I think Liverpool is one of the best teams in the English Premier League. But they haven't been able to sustain their best start to the season. But Liverpool is going through a bad time now, I believe Liverpool will turn around again very soon. And I believe they will come back strong in the UEFA Champions League.
I was one of the many who didn't expect this for Liverpool.
They are really very bad and this is the worst for the last few seasons for them.

I'm expecting something real now even if it's a little difficult. at this time the long holiday break must be put to good use and of course it is possible to bring in some players for transfers later.

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November 06, 2022, 05:20:47 PM
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I'm really looking forward to tomorrow's Champions League draw. Liverpool and PSG are both in the 2nd group, so they normally have a strong opponent. Club Brugge is a strange name in the list of teams in group 1. You would like to draw lots against that if you are in group 2. But they didn't just become first in the group and played well. There are some very nice matches imaginable, such as Bayern Munich - PSG. Then PSG could take revenge for the lost cup final a few years ago. I currently estimate PSG slightly higher, but that is mainly due to the vanguard.

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November 06, 2022, 05:29:58 PM
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I would like to see psg and Manchester city playing against each other's in the next round because i believe this clashe will determine who will be the champoin this year, both teams are in a very good format and i believe one of them will be able to get the trophy this year
That would be a very interesting match to see that PSG will face city. I can't wait what will be the next opponent for city and PSG. I hope that city will come the big team like bayern or PSG. I thin you shall not also forgot if there are two team that have higher chance than city and PSG to win the champion league for this season and these clubs are madrid and bayern munich. I think that you do know so well the history from both if you were regularly watching champion league for any season.
If we talk about Real Madrid then we will see the revenge mission they managed to beat last season. Real Madrid made a comeback from the round of 16 to the semifinals against a team that was very thirsty for champions. And I think they (the team that lost last season) will prepare for what they will anticipate if they meet again with Real Madrid. Especially Liverpool, they are in a bad situation, but they definitely have a desire to get back after being beaten by Real Madrid several times in the Champions League.

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PSG just have a better squad quality than Real Madrid's indeed. But when it comes to the experience in the Champions League, Real Madrid are far ahead of PSG now. Real Madrid are already the dominating team in this tournament above all else. They are the most title winning team now. Last season, there weren't the majority of people who thought Real Madrid would make it to the title but they made it somehow.

Real Madrid are again the secret favourite team for the championship. Maybe bookmakers are insisting on showing them as less likely than many teams but it isn't fair for Real Madrid. I think Real Madrid are the closest contender for it right after Manchester City. I'm putting Manchester City to the top because they are a complete team now with Haaland. This season could really be it for them. Guardiola wants to add this title to his collection with this team before leaving.

Yes, Real Madrid has a real winning mentality. Last season when they weren't favorites and even if I'm not mistaken Real Madrid were 3-0 down by Chelsea but in the second half Real Madrid came back and it was like something impossible to happen. Because the opponent is a strong team that doesn't just rely on luck to get to that stage, but Real Madrid with all its capabilities can turn the situation around.

No one denies that Real Madrid has a mental steel, they are superior to PSG and Manchester City in terms of the mentality of the champion. and this time, even without the many signings brought in last summer's transfer window. El Madrid, once again able to overcome the pessimism that initially was not too much of a favorite team. although Don Carlo is often said to be a coach who lacks strategy, in fact they always prove to the team from other challengers. that until now, the existence of Real Madrid remains a frightening specter for its opposing teams in the round of 16 phase later.

as for Manchester City, as we know. they always try to come back to be a challenger in this championship, now their chances are higher than before because there is Haalaad as a goal machine for their team. yes they deserve the title this season.

Agree also about Manchester City and even, last season Manchester City also basically have a chance to be able to advance to the final. But again and again, Real Madrid became the team that beat Manchester City and in that way, all the big teams that Real Madrid played against last season were defeated by Real Madrid.
But it looks like this season will be very different for the Real Madrid squad, although so far they are still doing well in La Liga but it looks like the hurdles in the Champions League will be getting tougher for Real Madrid.

as well as teams from the French league, not much different from what I posted for Manchester City. The MNM trio, became a frightening specter for the opposing team.

another one, for the team from the Bundesliga. although Bayern Munich does not have a pure striker, but Nagelsmann is able to mix his team into one of the candidates for a strong challenger.

so here we agree with you, it seems that the title will be difficult for Real Madrid to get especially if they meet one of the teams that we mention here.
I agree with you manchester city are in great form this season their standard of play is much better than all teams. Haaland is one of the most talented players in their team. The quality of their play has truly qualified them for the Champions League title.


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November 06, 2022, 06:31:02 PM
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yes, that's how it is in football, anything is still possible but right now the pressure is on the Liverpool team and also PSG because they have qualified for the round of 16 as runners up which means they will face the group winners in the last 16.
it is true that whoever the opponent will face in the round of 16 does not rule out the possibility for any team to be able to go further, but if you are dealing with a team of quality and have a strong mentality on the European stage like Real Madrid of course it will be very troublesome and make chances of getting through to the next round will be smaller.
PSG and Liverpool have huge pressure with strong opponent team at 16 round because finished at 2nd standing whether want or not have to faced with group winner like Manchester City, Madrid, Napoli and Bayern Munich. Except with Liverpool will not faced winner group stage at 16 round with the same country team like Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea and Manchester City. But PSG have bigger warning because last season have to faced with Real Madrid and bad memorize after Madrid come back on second leg.

I won't with PSG not eliminated early and next round better facing with Napoli maybe if lucky on drawing schedule held on next tomorrow days, still have Napoli, Spur and Porto are group winner have possibility become opponent for PSG on 16 round.
I don't know, they could face some great teams of course, just like how PSG faced Real last year, thats a possibility. But they could face porto, Tottenham, Chelsea, Napoli, benfica as well. These are not horrible teams of course, they are teams that finished the group stages as winners, but they are not as good as Bayern, City, Real neither we have to accept that.

It means if PSG or Liverpool faces these teams, there is a good chance that they could go to quarter finals easier, or if they face the harder ones then it will be like an "early finals" feeling, specially when PSG meets these big names it becomes very crucial because winner may end up getting the title just like last year.
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There is a pretty good chance that one of the favorites can already go home in the next round. You can easily get PSG against City or Bayern. Neither of them will be happy about that. City and PSG have been craving the title for years. Every year they start as favorites. PSG had little chance in the final against Bayern Munich a few years ago, but City should have beaten Chelsea on paper 2 years ago. That was the perfect opportunity to win the tournament.

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November 06, 2022, 06:39:41 PM
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Looking forward to the draw tomorrow, the possible opponents for my team, Liverpool, are Bayern, Real, Porto or Benfica.

Have to admit I’d rather avoid the first two I mentioned.

Here’s to a last 16 Portuguese match up Smiley

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So to say PSG are stronger seems wrong. If PSG are good, he's not in second place at the end of the group stage. They should be able to end up in number one like Madrid so the possibility of meeting in the first knockout phase.
But to say PSG is weak is also wrong. I think if they're right to meet in the first phase it's very interesting. It could be that it was a semi-final too early. Remember last season Madrid also struggled while playing in France, lucky Madrid were able to reverse the result at the Bernabeu.
Real Madrid and PSG in fact are both good in the Champions League this season because they qualified for the round of 16. What hasn't happened after this is just speculation and prediction, but if it is based on history then Real Madrid is always superior to teams that haven't even won a title.

PSG this season has been good because of the improved relationship between their three strikers namely Messi, Neymar and Mbaeppe. They advanced to the last 16 without defeat, but maybe not as good as Real Madrid's achievement, which managed to become the seeded team. Meanwhile, if these two teams meet in the last 16, then I think something that happened last season will be repeated because of the decisive round at home to Real Madrid as the seeded team.

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November 06, 2022, 07:22:48 PM
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On paper, Manchester City can be seen as the biggest favourite for the Champions League title. In the end, they have a more completed squad at the moment. Haaland's arrival will help them become closer to the title compared to the previous season. But we need to see their performance against the other big favourites as well.

For example, their elimination by Real Madrid last season was really dramatic. It was like they were so close to making it but Real Madrid performed a miracle in the last minutes of the rematch. Guardiola needs to focus on getting his players well-prepared for this kind of matches this time.

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Liverpool's fans may not be able to accept this performance of Liverpool at present. Because this kind of game is never expected from a team like Liverpool. I think Liverpool is one of the best teams in the English Premier League. But they haven't been able to sustain their best start to the season. But Liverpool is going through a bad time now, I believe Liverpool will turn around again very soon. And I believe they will come back strong in the UEFA Champions League.
It must be admitted that Liverpool performance is far from consistent this season and that is one thing that must be addressed by Jurgen Kloop in the next round of the Champions League. Liverpool is not the team that is favored for the title winner this season if we compare them with some other big teams but this is not a big benchmark that Liverpool will be knocked out in the next round. Kloop will focus all its efforts on being able to bring Liverpool to the Champions League final because in the domestic league Liverpool have a few big obstacles to reach rank 4.

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November 06, 2022, 08:15:38 PM
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PSG is a big candidate for the title winner this season because this season PSG have a deadly trio up front, this is what makes me believe PSG can beat their opponents in the next round. Real Madrid have a winning mentality and their squad is also very strong for this season. Bayern munich and manchester city are among the strong candidates for the title this season seeing their performance in the domestic league and in the ucl is very impressive for this season i think they will try hard to get the ucl trophy. Maybe we shouldn't forget Napoli they are group winners with a pretty good performance so far.
I'm still not too sure about that, especially in the last 16 there is a possibility that they will face a Big Match considering that they have to be in second place in the group phase so it is very likely that they will do the same Big Match in this phase as last season.
In terms of players in the squad they are still very decent but of course this is not only a matter of players but the coach's scheme is also taken into account and you could say Galtier is a debutant for the Champions League so this could be something that is indeed the same as last season.
indeed Galtier has no experience in the Champions League but we have to look at the PSG squad this season where the PSG squad is inhabited by players who are full of experience in the Champions League. But before that we have to wait for the draw for the round of 16 which will be held tomorrow. As you said the big match is something that might happen to PSG and I hope they can be met with real madrid or with bayern munich because if this happens then we can see the strength of psg this season in the champions league. On the one hand, PSG is a team that is very ambitious to reach the champions league title and Galtier can make it happen if he knows how to beat a team that is stronger than them.

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November 06, 2022, 08:21:42 PM
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On paper, Manchester City can be seen as the biggest favourite for the Champions League title. In the end, they have a more completed squad at the moment. Haaland's arrival will help them become closer to the title compared to the previous season. But we need to see their performance against the other big favourites as well.
This is all just a theory because in the end the result of the match will be the best decision to judge who deserves it. I support Manchester City and also believe in the ability of the players, but in the last few seasons I have been really disappointed about the result. Haaland is expected to be the difference, but anything can still go wrong.

Guardiola needs to focus on getting his players well-prepared for this kind of matches this time.
The draw will be tomorrow, I'd be happy Manchester City didn't have a strong opponent but it's always possible to come up with a challenge early on. The next problem is, Guardila has to give up some of his players to compete in the world cup, this will make some different feelings for the team coach because every player is always injured while defending his national team. But since the last 16 will take place next year, there is a lot of time and preparation to look forward to.

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indeed Galtier has no experience in the Champions League but we have to look at the PSG squad this season where the PSG squad is inhabited by players who are full of experience in the Champions League. But before that we have to wait for the draw for the round of 16 which will be held tomorrow. As you said the big match is something that might happen to PSG and I hope they can be met with real madrid or with bayern munich because if this happens then we can see the strength of psg this season in the champions league. On the one hand, PSG is a team that is very ambitious to reach the champions league title and Galtier can make it happen if he knows how to beat a team that is stronger than them.
Paris Saint Germain always has an experienced squad in the Champions League every season, last season for example they also had a squad that was not much different from now with many experienced players. But does it help? Honestly I have to say it didn't help.
Galtier must be aware of things like this if he is to speak more in the Champions League this season. And I think it doesn't have to be with what they show on the pitch when they play, before the game there has to be more motivation for the players to do their best. And also the role of players on the field will greatly affect their game.
I take for example when Real Madrid equalized in the last minute of the game, where Kroos played that role who gave Rudiger the confidence to go forward and receive the pass that he gave, the result was a goal for Real Madrid. Things like this become important in the game when in a state of urgency.

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November 06, 2022, 08:49:37 PM
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Guardiola needs to focus on getting his players well-prepared for this kind of matches this time.
The draw will be tomorrow, I'd be happy Manchester City didn't have a strong opponent but it's always possible to come up with a challenge early on. The next problem is, Guardila has to give up some of his players to compete in the world cup, this will make some different feelings for the team coach because every player is always injured while defending his national team. But since the last 16 will take place next year, there is a lot of time and preparation to look forward to.

Manchester City is a strong team. Their match strategy is excellent. Also they have a strong squad. And so Manchester City players have the ability to win against any team. However, no team in the Champions League knockout round can be called weak. They managed to qualify for the second round by performing well in the first round. And every team in this round is strong. So if City's goal is to win the title, they will have to perform very carefully in every match. If they perform poorly in any match, they will be relegated. It is very important to perform carefully in every match of this round.

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November 06, 2022, 09:05:37 PM
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On paper, Manchester City can be seen as the biggest favourite for the Champions League title. In the end, they have a more completed squad at the moment. Haaland's arrival will help them become closer to the title compared to the previous season. But we need to see their performance against the other big favourites as well.

For example, their elimination by Real Madrid last season was really dramatic. It was like they were so close to making it but Real Madrid performed a miracle in the last minutes of the rematch. Guardiola needs to focus on getting his players well-prepared for this kind of matches this time.

It's a bit too much up and down for Manchester City right now. I would still think that they are the favorite, but winning such a close game against Fulham in the league also shows that they can get into trouble as well even against some weaker teams. I think there will be some very close matches this year in the champions league. The statistics for Bayern are strong as well in a strong group. Manchester City gave away four points in a group that I think was less strong than Bayern's. I wonder whether there will be some unexpected outcomes as well. Liverpool still is a candidate even though they aren't stable, yet they were able to beat City in the league.

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November 06, 2022, 09:28:58 PM
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Manchester City is a strong team. Their match strategy is excellent. Also they have a strong squad. And so Manchester City players have the ability to win against any team. However, no team in the Champions League knockout round can be called weak. They managed to qualify for the second round by performing well in the first round. And every team in this round is strong. So if City's goal is to win the title, they will have to perform very carefully in every match. If they perform poorly in any match, they will be relegated. It is very important to perform carefully in every match of this round.
Being careful is something that cannot be forgotten in a match, but if it is excessive then it will also have a negative impact on their game. If they are overly cautious, they will not play loose because there is bound to be a fear of making a fatal mistake. They have to play as usual and improve more if they want to come out victorious. Everyone who will appear in this round will play it out, because they have 2 chances to defend or make a comeback in the second leg. Especially if you are left behind in the first leg, it is certain that any club will come out attacking to get a goal.

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November 06, 2022, 09:43:21 PM
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However, no team in the Champions League knockout round can be called weak.
I second every word of this sentence above, the Champions League is a very tough and tricky tournamnet and all the teams that make it through can be considered a difficult opponent to handle, notwithstanding, there are teams that are stronger, and are among the favorites, but even such teams cannot underestimate the less stronger teams when they come up against each other. The tournament becomes stronger as the competition progresses, from the QF every game is like a 'Final', and if any teams becomes complacent, they are definitely going to be knocked out.

Having said that, this season there are some teams that look like they will cause the bigger teams problems, i am pretty sure even the bigger teams will be hoping to avoid them in the draws, Napoli, Benfica and Porto are examples of such teams, the tournament is about to get a whole lot more interesting.

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