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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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November 12, 2022, 05:21:04 PM
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Liverpool is one of the best team in the english premier league but it's barely noticeable due to the fact that they're not use to signing big players but always contended with what they really have. Facing real Madrid in the round of 16 is definitely one of the tough game we're waiting to watch and hoping that this time around, liverpool should not fall victim after losing to the Los blancos back to back in the finals. The world cup will really change things for real Madrid and Liverpool which will either be deform or inform after the world cup, most players will come back injured.
Liverpool is one of the best teams in the world!  With fans spread across different countries, it is one of those teams that has significance outside of its local league.

 That gives him the right to be a candidate to beat Real Madrid, but due to his current performance, he places us in a reality that we must take into account.

 The World Cup favors him because it's time for adjustments, in terms of injuries it's funny to generalize because you don't know until it happens.

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November 12, 2022, 07:08:46 PM
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If you want to treat the two teams equally, now try to look at all the players on the two teams. From my personal point of view Real Madrid have had a little more great players than Liverpool this season so the level of quality for these two teams is different now and the potential for better is clearly on Real Madrid's side even though this match between these two teams is what many have been waiting for people this season
If you measure the players of Liverpool and Real Madrid head to head, the players of Real Madrid are a bit more better than players of Liverpool. When you talk of team organization, Real Madrid is more organised than Liverpool and finally when you talk about champions league experience, Real Madrid has more experience than Liverpool. So Real Madrid has more chances to qualify to next round.
Real Madrid is better than any team in the world if we are calculating the champions league experience. How many players in the world has won 5 champions league in their life time? I think modric kroos and benzema has 5, not sure about other players in the team, when did their goalkeeper get there for example and all that, but I can tell you that there are at least 3 players for sure that won 4-5 champions league, and some of the players were there for the last one last year, and basically it’s an amazing team when it comes to champions league.
Nobody won more than half of what they won so far, that should tell you how great they are. Doesn't mean they win every year, they might lose just as well as win, but it’s a good advantage to have.
You said it very well, in Champions League there is a stage you will reach what counts is not how well you play it is how knowledgeable you are about the Champions League. That is why in my place they always say that Champions League is not for boys but for men. This is the reason why Real Madrid has great chance to win any club they meet in the Champions League final, they have that great mentality of playing the final match of Champions League which other teams are lacking

It is not possible to win the Champions League title with only a strong squad. An experienced squad is needed to win the Champions League title. And also requires an experienced coach. As we saw last season, despite not having a very strong squad, Madrid won the title only with great match tactics. PSG and Manchester City, on the other hand, are unable to win the title despite having plenty of star players in their squads.

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November 12, 2022, 07:35:13 PM
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But Liverpool have some great players that Real Madrid don't have. However, Real Madrid's young players are playing good football, which has a promising future ahead of them. However, one of Liverpool's players is Mohamed Salah, Diaz. If Real Madrid and Liverpool play. Then I will treat both teams equally.
If you want to treat the two teams equally, now try to look at all the players on the two teams. From my personal point of view Real Madrid have had a little more great players than Liverpool this season so the level of quality for these two teams is different now and the potential for better is clearly on Real Madrid's side even though this match between these two teams is what many have been waiting for people this season
I agree with you that now Real Madrid can be said to have a lot of better players than Liverpool, although I think it's a less significant difference between the two teams. I still want to wait until they regroup and play after this international break because I want to see if they make any changes or not. Because in a meeting in the last 16 it is still very possible for the two teams to change whatever they are currently lacking

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November 12, 2022, 09:13:06 PM
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Liverpool is one of the best teams in the world!  With fans spread across different countries, it is one of those teams that has significance outside of its local league.

 That gives him the right to be a candidate to beat Real Madrid, but due to his current performance, he places us in a reality that we must take into account.

 The World Cup favors him because it's time for adjustments, in terms of injuries it's funny to generalize because you don't know until it happens.
Liverpool is a solid team with great player support, meanwhile Real Madrid is the defending champion with passion and a wealth of experience in the Champions League.

It's hard for me to think about Real Madrid's failure in the last 16, they are still a very strong team for Liverpool but things will never be the same for every season, it's neutral.

Ancelotti has experience and the highest number of titles after Zidane for the Champions League, but maybe it will not continue to increase if this season Liverpool can appear extraordinary by learning from many mistakes when they meet Real Madrid.
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November 12, 2022, 10:44:29 PM
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Real Madrid vs. Liverpool will be an intriguing match as always, with Real Madrid having a good record in the Champions League and having won the competition 14 times while still holding the cup and Liverpool winning the tournament was in 2018-2019 last season Madrid was unstoppable having benzema as an asset. Let's see what this season brings for Madrid as we wait to see what Benzema can do for Madrid. Round this round now the game will become though since winning is the goal.
Real Madrid still have good quality in the Champions League and also La Liga so far, while Liverpool I see not so much improved in the Premier League and it will be a very tough match for Liverpool because their opponent is a very strong team. For this season I am a little doubtful about Liverpool, be it in the Premier League, or in the Champions League although Liverpool's match with Real Madrid will still be a very interesting match to look forward to.
It looks like they are going to definitely continue to dominate for a long time unless something changes. They have already built a younger squad and getting help from them, sure the older ones like kroos, modric, benzema still make huge plays but the younger ones are following soon as well. Which means that it shouldn't be really that much of a shock if they somehow manage to make it work one way or another and win both UCL and La liga again.

I know that sounds like something difficult to do 2 years in a row, but they did it before and I am sure they will try to do it again. This year it is a bit harder because PSG and City looks a lot better, but we will have to wait and see.

I don't think it is going to matter that they will have to do it two times in a row. Because they are a competent team and they are capable of doing that. And I think they are not going to lose against Liverpool. I believe that they are still a serious contender for the Champions League title this season as well. They are playing very well in La Liga as well. I think they are going to have a competition with Barcelona for the La Liga title.

But in the Champions League, I do not think Real Madrid is about to lose the Champions League title. I am confident about that. But there are a lot of factors. I think you will be able to understand that clearly after the world cup ends.

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November 12, 2022, 11:50:45 PM
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This game was only possible because PSG failed in the group stage. If PSG took first place, then we would see a pair of Bayern - Benfica and everyone would react to this as "Benfica was good, but now it's over." PSG would have played Brugge and everyone would have treated this match the same way. But PSG failed and now we see in the 1/8 what we should have seen in the later stages of the tournament.

PSG's performance in the group stage was not bad. But Benfica's performance was better. And so PSG was second in the table. However, these are now past. PSG and Bayern Munich must now focus on their next match. And the team that wins the PSG vs Bayern Munich match, I think the team will go to the final. However, I just want to enjoy a competitive match. As both teams are very strong. So the match will definitely be competitive. And both of them have strong attacks. So I want to see several goals in this match.

Given the budget and expectations, the result of PSG in the group is terrible. They competed not with City as last season, but only with Benfica and Juventus, and still the result was again second place. But at the moment I don't think that the teams will focus on this match as it won't take place anytime soon. It seems to me that now the teams are developing strategies on how to get out of the break during which the World Cup will take place with the least losses.

Budgetwise they should have definitely performed better than that. But they got themselves into a whole lot of trouble now anyway. If Bayern can take their current level into the next half of the season, it is going to be extremely hard for PSG to beat them.

There have been odd results in the past as well though and I wouldn't necessarily assume that the winner of this game between PSG and Bayern goes to the final. Who would have thought that Bayern would lose their game against Villareal a while ago in the CL?

Liverpool vs. Real Madrid is hard to come up with a good guess, but Liverpool seems to be weaker than they used to be. I believe that Real Madrid might have a slight advantage in that match.

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November 13, 2022, 08:30:09 AM
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If you look at how Real Madrid played in the playoffs in the last Champions League, we will see that all the games were difficult and they sometimes won in the last minutes, but they never gave up and fought to the last. It shows the character of the team and it's very important because Liverpool don't know how to rebuild if they lose, they play well when everything goes according to their plan from the very beginning.
It's not certain in football that a comeback in those crucial minutes can happen in any game and not just focusing on Real Madrid performance which always surprises in the last minutes. Liverpool can do the same. But here the context is that Liverpool obviously has to be a bit more careful. Actually, this is only part of the attack technique which is to let the opponent finish the bullets early, once they run out of bullets can attack back with all the ammo available.
This is a challenge for Liverpool coach who has only one function or duty to perform and that is to make sure his team is able to score Real Madrid. No matter how good you play in your match against Real Madrid if you are unable to net, you are definitely going to lose the match. So his ability to improve Liverpool's team to score in big matches is a every big plus to the team. I Believe by that time he will have available Diaz, Firmino and Salah

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November 13, 2022, 10:33:15 AM
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Unseeded teams must also be watched this season, Napoli for example who have played very well since the start of the season and even until now they are unbeaten.
Napoli have been beaten by Liverpool 2-0, only in Serie A Napoli have never lost, only Bayern Munich have not accepted defeat in the Champions League so far. UCL provides many unpredictable things, many good teams will surprise in the round of 16, although it cannot be predicted accurately, we think Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Napoli have the same chance to advance to the next round.

the team that will play in the next round of UCL is the best European team, but predicting which team will advance to the semifinals is not so difficult. Bayern and Man City will definitely go there, while PSG will have to fight hard to get to the semifinals. they will play bayern and from the history of the two meetings, PSG will be difficult to win against bayern.

but it's true what some people say, it's still too early to predict which team will advance to the UCL semifinals, we don't know what will happen when the world cup starts, many players will be injured or sold in the transfer market.
The possibility of the completion of the World Cup will bring new surprises to clubs competing in the last 16, both players who will suffer injuries or the transfer market that will revive hope for some clubs who have started recruiting new players.
And it's true that it's still too soon to make predictions for the title, but roughly speaking, the club that is often mentioned has a big chance in my opinion.

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November 13, 2022, 12:23:01 PM
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the team that will play in the next round of UCL is the best European team, but predicting which team will advance to the semifinals is not so difficult. Bayern and Man City will definitely go there, while PSG will have to fight hard to get to the semifinals. they will play bayern and from the history of the two meetings, PSG will be difficult to win against bayern.

but it's true what some people say, it's still too early to predict which team will advance to the UCL semifinals, we don't know what will happen when the world cup starts, many players will be injured or sold in the transfer market.
The possibility of the completion of the World Cup will bring new surprises to clubs competing in the last 16, both players who will suffer injuries or the transfer market that will revive hope for some clubs who have started recruiting new players.
And it's true that it's still too soon to make predictions for the title, but roughly speaking, the club that is often mentioned has a big chance in my opinion.
All teams will definitely make the best possible preparations to face this round of 16 match. But now they have to wait and support their players to compete in the World Cup while hoping that nothing untoward will happen and they will return with good performance to defend their team. Of course this is not the right time to predict, I mean with a very long time lag then it will at least change the shape of the team later.

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November 13, 2022, 12:52:08 PM
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the team that will play in the next round of UCL is the best European team, but predicting which team will advance to the semifinals is not so difficult. Bayern and Man City will definitely go there, while PSG will have to fight hard to get to the semifinals. they will play bayern and from the history of the two meetings, PSG will be difficult to win against bayern.

but it's true what some people say, it's still too early to predict which team will advance to the UCL semifinals, we don't know what will happen when the world cup starts, many players will be injured or sold in the transfer market.
The possibility of the completion of the World Cup will bring new surprises to clubs competing in the last 16, both players who will suffer injuries or the transfer market that will revive hope for some clubs who have started recruiting new players.
And it's true that it's still too soon to make predictions for the title, but roughly speaking, the club that is often mentioned has a big chance in my opinion.
All teams will definitely make the best possible preparations to face this round of 16 match. But now they have to wait and support their players to compete in the World Cup while hoping that nothing untoward will happen and they will return with good performance to defend their team. Of course this is not the right time to predict, I mean with a very long time lag then it will at least change the shape of the team later.

This break in the competition should help some teams to better prepare for the continuation of the season and increase the chances of a better result.
I'm thinking of Liverpool in particular, who usually start the season worse, but in the second part of the season they play much better and achieve much better results.
If they were to play their match against Real now, they wouldn't have much of a chance, but I'm sure that in the spring they will be much better and more ready for the match with Real.
In any case, a very uncertain and exciting competition awaits us, and we still do not know in what condition the players will return from the world cup.

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November 13, 2022, 02:24:04 PM
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Napoli have been beaten by Liverpool 2-0, only in Serie A Napoli have never lost, only Bayern Munich have not accepted defeat in the Champions League so far. UCL provides many unpredictable things, many good teams will surprise in the round of 16, although it cannot be predicted accurately, we think Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Napoli have the same chance to advance to the next round.
Bayern Munich become the only one team unbeaten at Champion League and won 6 of 6 games, excellent performance from Bayern at Champion League because 100% winning although have in difficult group stage. Napoli almost have great achievement but last matchday beaten by Liverpool and still lead standing position have more goals.

Have another team still unbeaten at Champion League from Manchester City, PSG and Benfica but not 100% winning ratio games with 4 win of 6 games and two draws. Based on drawing match on 16 round seems Napoli have easy opponent than Real Madrid face Liverpool and Bayern waiting for by PSG.

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November 13, 2022, 02:33:50 PM
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Napoli have been beaten by Liverpool 2-0, only in Serie A Napoli have never lost, only Bayern Munich have not accepted defeat in the Champions League so far. UCL provides many unpredictable things, many good teams will surprise in the round of 16, although it cannot be predicted accurately, we think Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Napoli have the same chance to advance to the next round.
Bayern Munich become the only one team unbeaten at Champion League and won 6 of 6 games, excellent performance from Bayern at Champion League because 100% winning although have in difficult group stage. Napoli almost have great achievement but last matchday beaten by Liverpool and still lead standing position have more goals.

Have another team still unbeaten at Champion League from Manchester City, PSG and Benfica but not 100% winning ratio games with 4 win of 6 games and two draws. Based on drawing match on 16 round seems Napoli have easy opponent than Real Madrid face Liverpool and Bayern waiting for by PSG.
These teams play very well indeed, they undoubtedly have many world class players in their squad. Coaches also play one of the biggest roles in the team, whose tireless efforts make the teams successful.

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November 13, 2022, 02:36:12 PM
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Napoli have been beaten by Liverpool 2-0, only in Serie A Napoli have never lost, only Bayern Munich have not accepted defeat in the Champions League so far. UCL provides many unpredictable things, many good teams will surprise in the round of 16, although it cannot be predicted accurately, we think Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Napoli have the same chance to advance to the next round.
Bayern Munich become the only one team unbeaten at Champion League and won 6 of 6 games, excellent performance from Bayern at Champion League because 100% winning although have in difficult group stage. Napoli almost have great achievement but last matchday beaten by Liverpool and still lead standing position have more goals.

Have another team still unbeaten at Champion League from Manchester City, PSG and Benfica but not 100% winning ratio games with 4 win of 6 games and two draws. Based on drawing match on 16 round seems Napoli have easy opponent than Real Madrid face Liverpool and Bayern waiting for by PSG.

Why do I prefer that Bayern Munich will come out as Champions League Champions this season. even though they met PSG in the 16th round of the Champions League, that this was a fierce battle at the start of the last 16 of the Champions League, and one more Borussia Dortmund vs Chelsea was also a match that was considered the most fierce match, maybe everyone would be more interested in both matches this, because it is very difficult to predict that these 4 clubs are very big clubs and will compete in the last 16 of the Champions League.
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If you look at how Real Madrid played in the playoffs in the last Champions League, we will see that all the games were difficult and they sometimes won in the last minutes, but they never gave up and fought to the last. It shows the character of the team and it's very important because Liverpool don't know how to rebuild if they lose, they play well when everything goes according to their plan from the very beginning.
It's not certain in football that a comeback in those crucial minutes can happen in any game and not just focusing on Real Madrid performance which always surprises in the last minutes. Liverpool can do the same. But here the context is that Liverpool obviously has to be a bit more careful. Actually, this is only part of the attack technique which is to let the opponent finish the bullets early, once they run out of bullets can attack back with all the ammo available.
This is a challenge for Liverpool coach who has only one function or duty to perform and that is to make sure his team is able to score Real Madrid. No matter how good you play in your match against Real Madrid if you are unable to net, you are definitely going to lose the match. So his ability to improve Liverpool's team to score in big matches is a every big plus to the team. I Believe by that time he will have available Diaz, Firmino and Salah

One thing to consider is whether Real Madrid will still get the same results as last season. Indeed, Real Madrid has a real winning mentality but I think, at the same time, there will always be a factor of luck on his side.
Well, will the luck factor still be on Real Madrid's side this season, because we also realize that last season was a difficult season for Real Madrid because the opponents they faced were top teams who were also in their best form. But that way, last season no one predicted that Real Madrid would qualify for the final.

Therefore, in the previous season Real Madrid had made great achievements, and this season Real Madrid seems to have found it easier to reach the final. So I consider that the reality may be different from last season.
That is, when Real Madrid was not predicted to qualify but last season Real Madrid could qualify and vice versa, it is possible that when Real Madrid was predicted to qualify this season then maybe the result was not, and it was something that could not be predicted exactly.

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November 13, 2022, 03:11:41 PM
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Unseeded teams must also be watched this season, Napoli for example who have played very well since the start of the season and even until now they are unbeaten.
Napoli have been beaten by Liverpool 2-0, only in Serie A Napoli have never lost, only Bayern Munich have not accepted defeat in the Champions League so far. UCL provides many unpredictable things, many good teams will surprise in the round of 16, although it cannot be predicted accurately, we think Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Napoli have the same chance to advance to the next round.

the team that will play in the next round of UCL is the best European team, but predicting which team will advance to the semifinals is not so difficult. Bayern and Man City will definitely go there, while PSG will have to fight hard to get to the semifinals. they will play bayern and from the history of the two meetings, PSG will be difficult to win against bayern.

but it's true what some people say, it's still too early to predict which team will advance to the UCL semifinals, we don't know what will happen when the world cup starts, many players will be injured or sold in the transfer market.
The possibility of the completion of the World Cup will bring new surprises to clubs competing in the last 16, both players who will suffer injuries or the transfer market that will revive hope for some clubs who have started recruiting new players.
And it's true that it's still too soon to make predictions for the title, but roughly speaking, the club that is often mentioned has a big chance in my opinion.

Yes but the second game against Liverpool wasn't really representative of how well in shape Napoli is. They were totally ok with losing that game 2-0 as they knew they would still take the first spot in the group, so why go all out and risk more than you actually have to? It was still a good enough performance to secure the group stage win and that was their main goal during that game. It is also not to forget that they have beaten Ajax Amsterdam 6-1 in an away game. That doesn't just happen for no reason.

Serie A is more interesting to look at as that performance is just amazing. I quickly tried to check whether this is already the best start ever historically. Perhaps Juventus had a similar start during their prime. There is also one disadvantage considering their performance and that is that nobody will underestimate their strength in any competition. They won't be able to take on an underdog role.

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November 13, 2022, 03:14:20 PM
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The match between Liverpool and Napoli gives a somewhat distorted picture. In the 2nd half, Napoli made it 0-1 with about 25 minutes to go I believe. If it is 0-1, then I don't see Liverpool winning that game anymore. At the moment Napoli are playing better than Liverpool. I think there are only a few teams that are really better than Napoli at the moment. Bayern Munich, PSG and Manchester City. But PSG and Munich are playing against each other, unbelievable actually that this is a match in the 1/8th final. This should really be a final. A few years ago, Munich won, then PSG hadn't really created a decent chance, but now things will be different with Messi.

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November 13, 2022, 03:26:09 PM
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After the World Cup some clubs will have problems with their teams because these players are willing to give their best at the World Cup to their Nations. when you look at the Real Madrid players you will understand that the like of Benzema and V.Junior are going to the World Cup as top target for their country. A look  at PSG you will understand that both Neymar Messi and Mbappe are all going to the World Cup with high expectations.
All this may result to poor performance after the World Cup by the top players.

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November 13, 2022, 03:42:09 PM
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This is a challenge for Liverpool coach who has only one function or duty to perform and that is to make sure his team is able to score Real Madrid. No matter how good you play in your match against Real Madrid if you are unable to net, you are definitely going to lose the match. So his ability to improve Liverpool's team to score in big matches is a every big plus to the team. I Believe by that time he will have available Diaz, Firmino and Salah
Providing direction and motivation to the players to be able to score goals against Real Madrid is really necessary, but you also have to see how Ancelotti takes care of the Real Madrid players until they all become extraordinary in every match and competition. So if you think Real Madrid players can't score more goals against Liverpool, that's a big mistake because Real Madrid players are very productive players in scoring goals against their opponents.
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November 13, 2022, 04:35:28 PM
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Given the budget and expectations, the result of PSG in the group is terrible. They competed not with City as last season, but only with Benfica and Juventus, and still the result was again second place. But at the moment I don't think that the teams will focus on this match as it won't take place anytime soon. It seems to me that now the teams are developing strategies on how to get out of the break during which the World Cup will take place with the least losses.
They are lucky enough because Juventus are not in a good form, so the level of competition they provide is greatly reduced, it makes it easier for Paris Saint Germain to get a place in the round of 16. If at that time Juventus were in good form then it would be very difficult for them to be at least in second place. In fact they are still unable to compete with Benfica to be at the top of the standings. Now the team they will face is Bayern Munich for sure it will give them a very tight fight. Even though they have big name strikers in this case it is teamwork that speaks more, and I see Bayern Munich's teamwork being better than paris Saint Germain.

By the way, yes, I did not think about this option - indeed, the Italian teams were famous for the fact that with their discipline and defensive play they could defeat the brighter favorites. It would be ridiculous to see such an outcome, but I hope Bayern will cope with the task and we will see the relegation of PSG, even if not after the group stage.

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November 13, 2022, 06:44:23 PM
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After the World Cup some clubs will have problems with their teams because these players are willing to give their best at the World Cup to their Nations. when you look at the Real Madrid players you will understand that the like of Benzema and V.Junior are going to the World Cup as top target for their country. A look  at PSG you will understand that both Neymar Messi and Mbappe are all going to the World Cup with high expectations.
All this may result to poor performance after the World Cup by the top players.
I don't think it will affect their game in their current team. It's natural when they want to give their country a title, and also as professional players they have to show their best in the team they are currently defending. Instead I see this as an opportunity for them to give their best and answer all beliefs when they are selected to fill the squad in their country. And when he returns to the team they have to show that playing for their country will not diminish their quality as players.
What I'm worried about is something undesirable like injuries, because the level of competition is very competitive.

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