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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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November 18, 2022, 06:26:43 PM
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Even if Liverpool are not doing well , it can still be a surprise that they end up I'm winning real madrid, just as Real Madrid lose against Rayo. Chelsea  will be I'm performance than Dortmund.  Dortmund is not much consistent 
Don't misinterpret this if you don't know a team like Real Madrid, because if you think Real Madrid are weak just because they lost to Rayo today in La Liga, it's very non-specific because Real Madrid are always better in the Champions League which even the team Real Madrid always give everything in the Champions League even though they have to lose in La Liga. Because Real Madrid still thinks that the Champions League trophy is more valuable than the La Liga trophy.

 I agree with you, Real Madrid made a mistake, and it's normal, not all games can be won, I know that being undefeated hurts, but you have to admit that Rayo played masterfully and there was no way to go into them well to tie and go up, that's normal in football, of course anything can happen here or any result, if we look at it from the point of view that Real Madrid can lose against Liverpool, if it can, but there are some that many people don't see , that the League is one thing, and the UCL is quite another, in general, Real Madrid always does very well in the UCL, and many know it.


I can't believe that the Chelsea team is stronger than Dortmund. At least their performance doesn't seem like it. Chelsea's last team performance is very poor. Chelsea has lost points in their last 5 Premier League matches. They are not able to play well. The performance of their forward players is very poor. So I see no reason to think that Chelsea will easily win against Dortmund. Dortmund has a strong squad. And they are capable of beating any team. So Dortmund vs Chelsea match will be very competitive and both teams have a chance to win.

The champions league knock out tie will take place after the worldcup; so it is difficult to judge the players and the team using their pre worldcup performances and form; because by the time club football resumes; alot would have changed (including outgoing or incomings of new signing). I think chelsea will edge through dortmund and qualify
The world cup must not be a thing to change the result from next stage of champion's league. The main concern must be the champion league will be starting after the closed window of next transfer season. there will be lots of changes in the club just like napoli may lose some of its players caused by they were moving to the another club. In another case that real madrid may get a new striker and this help the club to increase its attack. Chelsea was also doing some transfer in the upcoming transfer season.
There will be lots of changes before the next stage of champion league will be started. This may make the result being unpredictable caused by there will be so many new rotation by various clubs.

Well, to tell the truth, for me Chelsea is much better now, even more than Dortmund itself, the reason is simple, despite the fact that Chelsea has lost more games in the PL it is something separate, that does not mean that they are bad, Chelsea has a lot of potential, obviously things can change a lot for next year, there is speculation and I'm not sure that CR7 can go to Chelsea, who almost has one foot there, but that's all, Dortmund will not stay there, will want to strengthen much more, the competition is getting stronger, the teams know that they can no longer make mistakes more than what is coming from now on because that means that a complete elimination could come, both teams need a respite.

I think that after the World Cup, not only for these teams, but for the majority that can sign, make transfers, they will be much better off, everyone is waiting for the World Cup, and seeing that new stars reappear, for me it is something that can happen quickly and that can change the meaning and direction of many teams.

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November 18, 2022, 06:38:20 PM
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Tottenham are favoured to reach the quarter finals. However I'm not very sure about this anyway. Because Tottenham haven't been much consistent in the recent times. Not only in the Champions League but also in the Premier League I mean. They left their job to the final week in the group stage here for example. As for the Premier League they got many losses recently in big matches especially. There are some weaknesses in the team and Conte had better find a solution to that in this long break.

As for Milan they are quite decent in the Serie A but they are not as good as that in the Champions League. Even though Chelsea were having bad times Milan lost to them two times in a row for example. This means that they are still not prepared against big teams. While both teams are unpredictable I can't be sure of any side to reach next round. Milan are a much more experienced team in the Champions League considering their history but Tottenham have a great tactician like Conte at the same time.
Here I agreed with you about Tottenham progress into last eight because they are much better team in Premier League, and they have enough quality to beat team like AC Milan which is surely doing good job in Serie A, but their current squad is surely not good enough to handle things against Tottenham which is doing good job in last few months and still holding good position into both competitions.

AC Milan is surely good team but still they need improvement which is important to have better results in Champions League because currently they are under development, and now we have full three months time for this match which is surely very long and many changes can happen during this time which can bring changes in performance as well.

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November 18, 2022, 08:17:46 PM
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I can't believe that the Chelsea team is stronger than Dortmund. At least their performance doesn't seem like it. Chelsea's last team performance is very poor. Chelsea has lost points in their last 5 Premier League matches. They are not able to play well. The performance of their forward players is very poor. So I see no reason to think that Chelsea will easily win against Dortmund. Dortmund has a strong squad. And they are capable of beating any team. So Dortmund vs Chelsea match will be very competitive and both teams have a chance to win.
The champions league knock out tie will take place after the worldcup; so it is difficult to judge the players and the team using their pre worldcup performances and form; because by the time club football resumes; alot would have changed (including outgoing or incomings of new signing). I think chelsea will edge through dortmund and qualify

you are right These teams cannot be considered with current performance. But there is no guarantee that the teams will perform well after the World Cup. Juventus team started their season in Serie A badly, but they have managed to correct their mistakes and are now performing well. But Chelsea is in dire straits. They have lost their last three matches. Their performance is very bad. Better not to expect a good performance from such a team right now.
However, their performance is likely to change after the World Cup. Their performance can be better or worse. We don't know that yet. Because players who are not in form after a long break are likely to return to form. There is also a possibility that their fitness will be weak.

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November 18, 2022, 08:43:02 PM
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Currently, both teams are level in quality and performance and what will be situation after three months we can predict because during this time injuries or any other problem can give them shock which could vital for them as we have last few matches Chelsea is having no win in last five Premier League games and Borussia Dortmund is also now going down in Bundesliga which is concern for them.

Few are feeling Chelsea is stronger, but their form is surely not as they are strong with many top ranked players are available, but sadly they are not able to have better strategy which give them positive results.

Dortmund after selling Haaland also having not good attacker and injuries and illness is also creating problems, so they need to work quickly before it's too late for them in this season.
Chelsea is the type of tournament team that could shock the world, that’s what they have going for them, plus they have spent 200+ million dollars on transfers which means they have built a great roster (supposedly) and they are just not playing as well as their roster shows.

It means after so many times from here until the game starts, if Chelsea could end up showing the real power of that roster, they could actually play very well and they could beat them very easily. But of course, all of this depends on how well they will be until that day, just like you said chemistry issues, fatigue, problems in the team, injuries and many other things could change the result.
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November 18, 2022, 09:31:24 PM
Last edit: November 19, 2022, 03:21:46 PM by G_Besar
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you are right These teams cannot be considered with current performance. But there is no guarantee that the teams will perform well after the World Cup. Juventus team started their season in Serie A badly, but they have managed to correct their mistakes and are now performing well. But Chelsea is in dire straits. They have lost their last three matches. Their performance is very bad. Better not to expect a good performance from such a team right now.
However, their performance is likely to change after the World Cup. Their performance can be better or worse. We don't know that yet. Because players who are not in form after a long break are likely to return to form. There is also a possibility that their fitness will be weak.

Chelsea vs Dortmund is the first meeting for these two teams in the Champions League. Their chances of escaping are still equally open. But I slightly favored Dortmund in this fight.

Since Chelsea's ownership shifted to Todd Boehly, the internal situation at Chelsea has changed rapidly and of course it has had an impact on the team as a whole, then the appointment of Potter as manager of The Blues adds to my doubts about their existence in the Champions League, even though he has done a good job in the group phase . It must be admitted that the quality of Chelsea this season has dropped dramatically. Unless Chelsea's management immediately overhauled its squad and added some new ammunition in the January transfer window.

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November 18, 2022, 09:42:34 PM
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Chelsea vs Dortmund is the first meeting for these two teams in the Champions League. Their chances of escaping are still equally open. But I slightly favored Dortmund in this fight.
I'm not sure what your reasons are for favoring Dortmund for that game, if Haaland was still there then maybe it would be good. I agree both teams had their chances, but for me Chelsea deserved more.

It must be admitted that the quality of Chelsea this season has dropped dramatically. Unless Chelsea's management immediately overhauled its squad and added some new ammunition in the January transfer window.
Even I have to say they have improved since Potter's arrival, but maybe you should ignore the results of his last 5 matches. The fact Potter managed to get Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage should be the reason why Chelsea have improved. Even so, Chelsea has only played 14 matches in the Premier League, it will soon improve even better in the second half of this season.

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November 18, 2022, 09:54:44 PM
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It must be admitted that the quality of Chelsea this season has dropped dramatically. Unless Chelsea's management immediately overhauled its squad and added some new ammunition in the January transfer window.
Even I have to say they have improved since Potter's arrival, but maybe you should ignore the results of his last 5 matches. The fact Potter managed to get Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage should be the reason why Chelsea have improved. Even so, Chelsea has only played 14 matches in the Premier League, it will soon improve even better in the second half of this season.
We have to look at all the matches they have run if we want to judge one coach's performance. I admit that Chelsea managed to improve at the start of Graham Potter's arrival, but it didn't last long because it was only in a short time that they again achieved bad results match to match. It's not good for them because we only see their overall performance. It doesn't matter that he got Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage, when they play bad they have to say bad.

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November 18, 2022, 09:56:32 PM
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Even I have to say they have improved since Potter's arrival, but maybe you should ignore the results of his last 5 matches. The fact Potter managed to get Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage should be the reason why Chelsea have improved. Even so, Chelsea has only played 14 matches in the Premier League, it will soon improve even better in the second half of this season.

To be honest i have never really heard of Potter before he became the coach of FC Chelsea. Looking at the results i would say that his work so far is not really that successful. I think that Chelsea made a huge mistake by firing Thomas Tuchel as their coach. I mean he became coach of FC Chelsea when they were in a really terrible state and after he came he not only made them successful in the Premier League again he even won the Champions League with them, which was an exceptional performance as a coach. I think Tuchel is one of the top 5 football coaches in the world right now. The only thing is that he seems to be kinda complicated to handle sometimes for the club officials.
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Even I have to say they have improved since Potter's arrival, but maybe you should ignore the results of his last 5 matches. The fact Potter managed to get Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage should be the reason why Chelsea have improved. Even so, Chelsea has only played 14 matches in the Premier League, it will soon improve even better in the second half of this season.
To be honest i have never really heard of Potter before he became the coach of FC Chelsea. Looking at the results i would say that his work so far is not really that successful. I think that Chelsea made a huge mistake by firing Thomas Tuchel as their coach. I mean he became coach of FC Chelsea when they were in a really terrible state and after he came he not only made them successful in the Premier League again he even won the Champions League with them, which was an exceptional performance as a coach. I think Tuchel is one of the top 5 football coaches in the world right now. The only thing is that he seems to be kinda complicated to handle sometimes for the club officials.

I agree with you. A big mistake by Chelsea management was to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won the Champions League title thanks to Thomas Tuchel. And it was totally incredible. No one could have imagined that Chelsea would win the Champions League title. Yet Thomas Tuchel has won it. Chelsea management should not sack such a coach. Chelsea have performed well in a few games since Potter took charge, but now Chelsea are once again a struggling team. I don't expect a better performance from Chelsea this season.

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For Milan - Tottenham matchup, I would like to see Milan to advance to the quarter final honestly. Because we haven't seen Milan being successful in the Champions League for many years. They were one of the biggest teams here back in the day. But now they are newly getting accustomed to be a part of this organization again.

I like Conte's Tottenham but I'm doubting their performance in the Champions League still. They barely reached this stage after the final group games. It is hard to predict what they can do against Milan as well. It has been eleven years since they met in this tournament the last time.

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For Milan - Tottenham matchup, I would like to see Milan to advance to the quarter final honestly. Because we haven't seen Milan being successful in the Champions League for many years. They were one of the biggest teams here back in the day. But now they are newly getting accustomed to be a part of this organization again.
I like Conte's Tottenham but I'm doubting their performance in the Champions League still. They barely reached this stage after the final group games. It is hard to predict what they can do against Milan as well. It has been eleven years since they met in this tournament the last time.

Both Tottenham and Milan are doing well in their respective leagues. And so it is difficult to predict which team will win this match. But I think Tottenham has more chance to win than AC Milan. Because AC Milan's goal was never to do well in the Champions League. They want to perform well in Serie A. And their full focus will be on Serie A. And we think the Tottenham team will win against Milan.

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It would be nice if your words about "this season or never again" turned out to be true. Because City are in the same position and if one of these oil clubs is left out of the Champions League title holders I will be very happy. In general, I do not expect surprises in the Bayern-PSG pairing, I hope both clubs will be in optimal shape and then Bayern should win confidently. It will be worse if Bayern has some kind of failure.
PSG and Bayern are now in an interesting situation. Both clubs have the same number of wins in their head-to-head encounters. But I remember how well PSG played in the quarterfinals last year. Back then too, many thought that Bayern would win without any problems, but PSG gave a fight. This year the teams are playing equally well and it is hard to say who will win, but I think PSG look better now.

Better in what? Compare the PSG group and the Bayern group and note that Bayern finished in first place and PSG in second. In the national championships, they performed about the same (even if Bayern had a slight decline) - in any case, this is not an indicator, since it is difficult to understand something from the games in the farm league.
Bayern were struggling in Bundesliga too, don't forget about that, and since I'm predicting PSG to win the Champions league since the season started, I would say that they will qualify for sure, I'm confident about PSG to beat Bayern Munich, PSG this year are different, you can say that they are playing in the "farmers league" but they are playing differently as a team, the trio of Mbappe, Neymar and Messi are on fire, I don't think Bayer Munich's defense can stop them if they be in a good form.

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For Milan - Tottenham matchup, I would like to see Milan to advance to the quarter final honestly. Because we haven't seen Milan being successful in the Champions League for many years. They were one of the biggest teams here back in the day. But now they are newly getting accustomed to be a part of this organization again.

I like Conte's Tottenham but I'm doubting their performance in the Champions League still. They barely reached this stage after the final group games. It is hard to predict what they can do against Milan as well. It has been eleven years since they met in this tournament the last time.
Milan performance on champion league this season is more impressive that they can able to qualified although their position should be determined on the last match and Tottenham also can reach to first position on group phase and there were no meetings statistics for official tournaments before so apparently this is their first met on european competition and i have to say both of teams had underdog status for this competition because less of people will predict Milan or Tottenham will be strong opponents for the trophy and in my opinion their chances to quarterfinal are equally same but Conte had more experience and familiar to fight against Italian teams before so he will used this attempts to beat Milan and i will thinking the opposite that Tottenham had slightly chances to qualified than Milan

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Chelsea performance in this season made people to feel bad about the team because since they sacked Thomas tuchel from Chelsea made some of their potential players to lose focus in their position. The way this new Chelsea manager is benching some of their strikers that know how to achieve early goals that will bring victory at the end of the game, show that this new Chelsea manager cannot help the team to win this trophy.

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Chelsea performance in this season made people to feel bad about the team because since they sacked Thomas tuchel from Chelsea made some of their potential players to lose focus in their position. The way this new Chelsea manager is benching some of their strikers that know how to achieve early goals that will bring victory at the end of the game, show that this new Chelsea manager cannot help the team to win this trophy.
each coach has different tactics as well as the selection of players who according to him match the style of play applied.
Graham Potter has just coached Chelsea after the season and even though Chelsea's performance has not been consistent now, we cannot say that Graham Potter will fail, everything needs process.
when the Chelsea management took quick steps to sack Tuchel, they were convinced by Graham Potter to be able to lift Chelsea's performance.

in the round of 16 Chelsea will meet Dortmund, judging from Chelsea's inconsistent performance, many predict that this match will be fierce and both have the same potential to win.
but this is the UCL where many strong European teams are here, if you look at the other teams, Chelsea is a little lucky here to be able to get opponents who are on par with them.
I believe Chelsea is a big team that continues to improve at all times and they have the opportunity to continue to improve, especially now that they are on an international break so they have plenty of time to improve and look at the transfer market in January.



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I agree with you. A big mistake by Chelsea management was to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won the Champions League title thanks to Thomas Tuchel. And it was totally incredible. No one could have imagined that Chelsea would win the Champions League title. Yet Thomas Tuchel has won it. Chelsea management should not sack such a coach. Chelsea have performed well in a few games since Potter took charge, but now Chelsea are once again a struggling team. I don't expect a better performance from Chelsea this season.
After Tuchel, I heard the news The official was also thinking to fire Potter, I don't who the candidate was because no head coach's name has yet revolved. Maybe only Zidane who is the best coach ever can replace him, but for now, Zidane seems not interested to train the club because he seems to focus on the National team, if any country ready willing to him.

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November 19, 2022, 08:02:09 AM
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I agree with you. A big mistake by Chelsea management was to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won the Champions League title thanks to Thomas Tuchel. And it was totally incredible. No one could have imagined that Chelsea would win the Champions League title. Yet Thomas Tuchel has won it. Chelsea management should not sack such a coach. Chelsea have performed well in a few games since Potter took charge, but now Chelsea are once again a struggling team. I don't expect a better performance from Chelsea this season.
After Tuchel, I heard the news The official was also thinking to fire Potter, I don't who the candidate was because no head coach's name has yet revolved. Maybe only Zidane who is the best coach ever can replace him, but for now, Zidane seems not interested to train the club because he seems to focus on the National team, if any country ready willing to him.

The biggest mistake of Chelsea was to sack Tuchel, and that reminds me, why did they sack Lampard that is their legend? It is a mistake to let Lampard go. Mourinho is a special one and should have been the Chelsea coach till now. Why did Chelsea sell Hazard, he would have scored many goals by now. Why did Chelsea allow Rudiger to go, it is another big mistake.

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November 19, 2022, 08:09:09 AM
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Even I have to say they have improved since Potter's arrival, but maybe you should ignore the results of his last 5 matches. The fact Potter managed to get Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage should be the reason why Chelsea have improved. Even so, Chelsea has only played 14 matches in the Premier League, it will soon improve even better in the second half of this season.
To be honest i have never really heard of Potter before he became the coach of FC Chelsea. Looking at the results i would say that his work so far is not really that successful. I think that Chelsea made a huge mistake by firing Thomas Tuchel as their coach. I mean he became coach of FC Chelsea when they were in a really terrible state and after he came he not only made them successful in the Premier League again he even won the Champions League with them, which was an exceptional performance as a coach. I think Tuchel is one of the top 5 football coaches in the world right now. The only thing is that he seems to be kinda complicated to handle sometimes for the club officials.
Sacking the Tuchel was surely the worst decision by Chelsea new management because as he was doing things these were going to have good results in long run but a mistake change all development and after Graham Potter arrival few good results highlighted by media as it's going to be the best change but now after just few weeks Chelsea is eight in Premier League table and the second-worst team in form for last few matches as having three loses and two draws which are clearly giving all report about and their chances for qualifying again into Champions League in presence of tough challengers which are at their best.

 Tottenham which is at fourth having eight points difference which is not allowing them to have any positive feeling about going into top four with currently New Castle United and Arsenal are having amazing run and good challenge for Manchester City which is currently defending their title.

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November 19, 2022, 08:19:40 AM
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The biggest mistake of Chelsea was to sack Tuchel, and that reminds me, why did they sack Lampard that is their legend? It is a mistake to let Lampard go. Mourinho is a special one and should have been the Chelsea coach till now. Why did Chelsea sell Hazard, he would have scored many goals by now. Why did Chelsea allow Rudiger to go, it is another big mistake.
Tuchel is a big head person, Potter is better since he's want to try any potential player that hasn't been played during Tuchel management. It's Kepa, Tuchel always let Mendy to play while Mendy is really a bad goalkeeper, as you can see Kepa was show a good saves and he's keep playing until now.

Lampard? He's currently become Everton coach, as you can see he can't do much to improve his club, it's useless to let Lampard stay if he's not good become a coach.

Hazard's prime already passed, now he's currently on Real Madrid which is a good club in La Liga and he only play for few matches as a substitution.

tl;dr: Chelsea's decision is right, they only lack of good players.

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November 19, 2022, 08:26:30 AM
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Even I have to say they have improved since Potter's arrival, but maybe you should ignore the results of his last 5 matches. The fact Potter managed to get Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage should be the reason why Chelsea have improved. Even so, Chelsea has only played 14 matches in the Premier League, it will soon improve even better in the second half of this season.
To be honest i have never really heard of Potter before he became the coach of FC Chelsea. Looking at the results i would say that his work so far is not really that successful. I think that Chelsea made a huge mistake by firing Thomas Tuchel as their coach. I mean he became coach of FC Chelsea when they were in a really terrible state and after he came he not only made them successful in the Premier League again he even won the Champions League with them, which was an exceptional performance as a coach. I think Tuchel is one of the top 5 football coaches in the world right now. The only thing is that he seems to be kinda complicated to handle sometimes for the club officials.
Sacking the Tuchel was surely the worst decision by Chelsea new management because as he was doing things these were going to have good results in long run but a mistake change all development and after Graham Potter arrival few good results highlighted by media as it's going to be the best change but now after just few weeks Chelsea is eight in Premier League table and the second-worst team in form for last few matches as having three loses and two draws which are clearly giving all report about and their chances for qualifying again into Champions League in presence of tough challengers which are at their best.

 Tottenham which is at fourth having eight points difference which is not allowing them to have any positive feeling about going into top four with currently New Castle United and Arsenal are having amazing run and good challenge for Manchester City which is currently defending their title.
Manchester City is still a worthy contender to win the Champions League. They have a great playing XI. Besides, the rest of the extra players in the team also play great football. That's why Manchester City never had a problem with players.

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