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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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December 25, 2022, 09:41:00 AM
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But we should take a look at the form which PSG currently is on at the moment. They’ve got bright players who has probably gotten more experienced with the just concluded World Cup. PSG has a lot of stars on its squad. Stars that also has years of experience on their belt.
World cup meant nothing. it's the fight between the club. Bayern has so many capable defenders at this moment. I shall remind you when bayern was destroying barcelona like barcelona was nothing for bayern. The same thing gonna happen with PSG

I don't really dare to predict the PSG vs Bayern Munich match, because in my opinion these two teams are really strong and have experienced player players, but Bayern Munich must be wary of PSG strikers Messi, Mbappe and Neymar, really scary for Bayern Munich's defense they have speed  and good tactics, this is what Bayern Munich must improve, otherwise it will be very difficult to win..
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December 25, 2022, 09:45:59 AM
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I cannot agree with you. Real Madrid were very lucky to win the title last season. At the same time, Benzema's consistently good performances helped Madrid win the Champions League title. But this season Benzema's fitness is not good. He is unable to stay with the squad due to injury. I think Real Madrid will be eliminated in the semi-finals.
It's also not certain that this will happen to Real Madrid, because the Champions League itself hasn't reached the semifinals so there are many other possibilities that could happen beyond what many people expect, and I don't think this should be judged too early for Real Madrid. Because the last 16 matches haven't started yet, it's still difficult to know whether Real Madrid will be able to survive until the final or will even be overwhelmed in the last 16.

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December 25, 2022, 10:17:04 AM
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There's also a news where Real Madrid willing to pay for 1 Billion Euro to Mbappe, Real Madrid is really want Mbappe at this moment [1]


[1] https://www.wionews.com/sports/real-madrid-is-ready-to-pay-ps1-billion-for-kylian-mbappe-next-summer-reports-546256

This price is outrageous for only one player; they must be desperate for him to pay such a high price for him. Will Mbappe cave and leave like that? The benefits he stands to gain at PSG are substantial enough to keep him there, and the club would be reluctant to let him go after his outstanding performance at the World Cup. I know Real Madrid has the money, but I believe they should stop pursuing him in this manner if he does not want to join them and find another player to replace Benzema as soon as possible.
This money is to big for Reall Madrid to offer just a player. Even if  they wants Mbappe this is not the amount of money they will be paying him. I don't think it Mbappe is ready to leave PSG, because is not yet ready to sell him out.

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December 25, 2022, 10:51:12 AM
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I cannot agree with you. Real Madrid were very lucky to win the title last season. At the same time, Benzema's consistently good performances helped Madrid win the Champions League title. But this season Benzema's fitness is not good. He is unable to stay with the squad due to injury. I think Real Madrid will be eliminated in the semi-finals.

Luck can't make them sequentially beat PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City who were the most nominated teams to win that title, what helped them is the winning mentality they showed. This season, I think Real Madrid is far from the competition, Manchester City with Halland and PSG with all their stars seem to be the strongest and most passionate teams. However, we should look at the winter transfer market before making a prediction, with the World Cup ended recently, the market this year should be on fire.

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December 25, 2022, 11:04:07 AM
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It isn't always about having a strong squad as that without experience is nothing. This isn't the first time Manchester city are having a strong squad, since the takeover by the City Football Group Limited and Pep Guardiola, have always had a strong squad but have failed to win the tournament. Also Real Madrid didn't need a strong squad last season to win the tournament instead they had experience both on and off the field. Mbappe going to real Madrid doesn't guarantee them winning the tournament although it will strengthen their campaign because they now have more speed in the team which they can use against their opponent.
Competition in the Champions League is so tight, the composition of the players owned by many clubs does not guarantee they can win the Champions League, Bayern Munich, PSG and Manchester City had the perfect squad last season. But in fact it was Real Madrid who managed to come out as champions. That is, the strength of the players owned by any club cannot fully guarantee becoming a champion.

Real Madrid is superior in terms of experience and the winning mentality they have is difficult to beat, especially if they have reached the semi-finals and finals.

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Also don't underestimate Bayern Munich, although they haven't won the title as much as Real Madrid still they're a force in the tournament and always one of the favorites. Even with losing Luwadusaksi to Barcelona, they're still one of the top scorers of the tournament meaning they don't need Luwadusaksi to win the tournament as much as people are thinking. They now have Mane which contribute alot to any team that he's playing in both off and on the ball.
Bayern Munich has always been a strong challenger in the Champions League, they always appear consistently even though in the last few seasons it has been difficult to come out as champions. Mane is Bayern Munich's strength in the attacking position, he is more productive than when he played at Liverpool, even without Robert Lewandowski who was sold to Barcelona, Bayern Munich is increasingly consistent and appears quite strong.

It's a big mistake when people underestimate the strength that Bayern Munich has this season, because the competition will only give birth to one champion but that doesn't mean that other clubs are weak and aren't strong challengers.

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December 25, 2022, 11:12:36 AM
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It's a big mistake when people underestimate the strength that Bayern Munich has this season, because the competition will only give birth to one champion but that doesn't mean that other clubs are weak and aren't strong challengers.
All teams will be stronger in the knockout phase because they have a plan to qualify for the next phase. That's why it's difficult to determine who will win the match because the teams will try to do their best, and sometimes the quality of the team and the players will not determine victory.

I'm not underestimating Bayern Munich, but of course PSG look more likely to win that match. After all, PSG is one of the favorites this season even though in fact they always fail. Bayern Munich have experience, of course that will make them have something more than PSG. Bayern Munich are also favourites, as are Real Madrid and all the other Premier League team to qualify for the last 16.

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December 25, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
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I'm not underestimating Bayern Munich, but of course PSG look more likely to win that match. After all, PSG is one of the favorites this season even though in fact they always fail. Bayern Munich have experience, of course that will make them have something more than PSG. Bayern Munich are also favourites, as are Real Madrid and all the other Premier League team to qualify for the last 16.
Since the round of 16 will take place over two leg, it is difficult to guess which team between them will qualify for the next round considering PSG and Bayern Munich are teams that have equally good strengths. In terms of chances, I have the same view as you that Paris Saint Germain has a greater chance of going to the next round than Bayern Munich.
Of course what I say is not a reference because anything can happen when the match is played for both leg.

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December 25, 2022, 11:49:45 AM
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I cannot agree with you. Real Madrid were very lucky to win the title last season. At the same time, Benzema's consistently good performances helped Madrid win the Champions League title. But this season Benzema's fitness is not good. He is unable to stay with the squad due to injury. I think Real Madrid will be eliminated in the semi-finals.

Luck can't make them sequentially beat PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City who were the most nominated teams to win that title, what helped them is the winning mentality they showed. This season, I think Real Madrid is far from the competition, Manchester City with Halland and PSG with all their stars seem to be the strongest and most passionate teams. However, we should look at the winter transfer market before making a prediction, with the World Cup ended recently, the market this year should be on fire.

I'm really surprised how much in football there is talk about luck as the main reason for someone's success or when someone's victory cannot be explained on the basis of rational statistical data.
If you followed the news from the last 2 world championships, you could conclude that Croatia is the luckiest national team in the world because they were second and third in the world mainly thanks to crazy luck and not the quality of the team.
In a similar way, many neutral observers concluded that Real became the champion of Europe this year thanks to crazy luck, because they deserved to lose from their opponents many times, but they miraculously won every time.
Both of these are actually underestimation of the great and well-deserved successes of Croatia and Real.
Both Croatia and Real had the X factor in those matches, something that their opponents did not have, and which helped them to win.
That factor X is difficult to explain, but it is the reason why Manchester City and PSG have not been able to win the Champions League for years, even though they have more money and better players than Real, and Real has won the Champions League 5 times in recent years, if I remember correctly.
Factor X could be explained as a firm belief that you will win even though everything is against you, complete self-confidence and faith until the end.

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December 25, 2022, 12:04:00 PM
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Since the round of 16 will take place over two leg, it is difficult to guess which team between them will qualify for the next round considering PSG and Bayern Munich are teams that have equally good strengths. In terms of chances, I have the same view as you that Paris Saint Germain has a greater chance of going to the next round than Bayern Munich.
Of course what I say is not a reference because anything can happen when the match is played for both leg.
Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer is injured which is a major drawback for the team. PSG is seeing its players like Messi and Mbappe in their best performance this season which should push the chances of PSG a lot. It is quite difficult to guess the winner since Bayern could trash their opponents quite easily whenever they are playing good but I guess PSG will not let them do that the Barca way Roll Eyes

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December 25, 2022, 12:04:44 PM
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If Kylian Mbappe somehow joins Real Madrid, their team will become very strong. Kylian Mbappe is one of the best players in the world right now and the rest of the France team are also great young players who have performed well this World Cup. So I hope that if Kylian Mbappe joins Real Madrid unfortunately then Real Madrid will become a super strong team.
Real Madrid are already strong, if there have a talented young striker like Mbappe then it is true that Real Madrid will be very strong, like Manchester City with Haaland. UCL is not easy at all, for any big club a small mistake can be very big. By the way I can't wait to see Bayern Munich, which have consistently won with perfect points so far, against PSG in February. Which team do you think will win?
Real Madrid is currently a very strong team. I don't see any weak point of the team. The youngsters in the team are performing well and they are all in good positions. Real Madrid will become the best team if Kylian Mbappe joins this time.
Yes, there is no doubt that Real Madrid is indeed a very strong team, even without Kylian Mbappe, Real Madrid is among the strongest teams in world football. but unfortunately, Karim Benzema, who is a star at Real Madrid, seems to still not have fully recovered from his injury, of course, this is a serious concern for Carlo Ancelotti for the front line of attack because no one can replace Karim Benzema on the front lines. If it is true that Kylian Mbappe is recruited by Real Madrid it will definitely be very strong, but will PSG let Mbappe go in the transfer market in January? I think Christophe Galtier still wants Mbappe to play at PSG.
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Since the round of 16 will take place over two leg, it is difficult to guess which team between them will qualify for the next round considering PSG and Bayern Munich are teams that have equally good strengths. In terms of chances, I have the same view as you that Paris Saint Germain has a greater chance of going to the next round than Bayern Munich.
Of course what I say is not a reference because anything can happen when the match is played for both leg.
Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer is injured which is a major drawback for the team. PSG is seeing its players like Messi and Mbappe in their best performance this season which should push the chances of PSG a lot. It is quite difficult to guess the winner since Bayern could trash their opponents quite easily whenever they are playing good but I guess PSG will not let them do that the Barca way Roll Eyes
I think Bayern Munich's absence in the match should not be a reason why Bayern Munich is not more favored in the match. They still have time to bring in a goalkeeper who will replace Manuel Neuer. What's more, they are currently moving so actively with rumors of several very high-quality goalkeepers. The round of 16 starts in mid-February, so there is still plenty of time for them to find a suitable replacement for Manuel Neuer.

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December 25, 2022, 01:03:30 PM
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Maybe even without Kylian Mbappe, Real Madrid will still be the best team. It should be noted that currently Real Madrid is the most team that has won the UCL with 14 trophies. Of course that is not a small number and they often beat strong teams in Europe in the race for this championship. Even Man City and PSG who want this title often have to meet Real Madrid, as a result the two teams have to go home early.
They are a biggest club without Mbappe so without Mbappe, Real Madrid will continue their success.

Do they need Mbappe? Maybe they need him but if they can not have Mbappe, they can buy other players like Endrick. Vini Jr. and Rodrygo can level up in future and I have strong belief in Vini Jr. He can be one of biggest competitors with Mbappe for personal awards in future.

With Vini, Rodrygo and Endrick, their attacking will be too powerful and the need for Mbappe is not too important for Real Madrid.
Indeed, that is the reality, Real Madrid is now more focused on young Brazilian talents, but Endricki can only join the Los Blancos squad in 2024. Regarding Vini in the future, he will be an extraordinary figure individually and it is possible that later he can compete with mbappe for won an award.

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December 25, 2022, 01:03:43 PM
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Since the round of 16 will take place over two leg, it is difficult to guess which team between them will qualify for the next round considering PSG and Bayern Munich are teams that have equally good strengths. In terms of chances, I have the same view as you that Paris Saint Germain has a greater chance of going to the next round than Bayern Munich.
Of course what I say is not a reference because anything can happen when the match is played for both leg.
Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer is injured which is a major drawback for the team. PSG is seeing its players like Messi and Mbappe in their best performance this season which should push the chances of PSG a lot. It is quite difficult to guess the winner since Bayern could trash their opponents quite easily whenever they are playing good but I guess PSG will not let them do that the Barca way Roll Eyes

Mbape currently holds the record for most goals scored, and Messi has won the trophy in the World Cup. They both put on incredible performances in the recently concluded World Cup, but I don't think that can be used to predict who will win the Champions League. Mbape won the 2018 World Cup, but PSG couldn't win the Champions League even when he had Neymar. Maybe, now that Messi is present, their chances may improve.

Looking at the basic review of the completed group stage, it appears that a lot of people are overlooking Liverpool and Napoli, who won all of their games in the group stages while other teams were given credit for advancing to the knockout stage.  Grin

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December 25, 2022, 01:32:56 PM
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Since the round of 16 will take place over two leg, it is difficult to guess which team between them will qualify for the next round considering PSG and Bayern Munich are teams that have equally good strengths. In terms of chances, I have the same view as you that Paris Saint Germain has a greater chance of going to the next round than Bayern Munich.
Of course what I say is not a reference because anything can happen when the match is played for both leg.
Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer is injured which is a major drawback for the team. PSG is seeing its players like Messi and Mbappe in their best performance this season which should push the chances of PSG a lot. It is quite difficult to guess the winner since Bayern could trash their opponents quite easily whenever they are playing good but I guess PSG will not let them do that the Barca way Roll Eyes
I personally doubt when PSG will be against bayern. Based from head to heat between PSG and Bayern seem like both were equal. Bayern have to protect messi and mbappe as the main player who will be a treat for bayern's goal keeper. We saw how good the performance from messi and mbappe during the world cup. I have expected the same thing to happen when PSG will be against bayern next year but i think that mbappe may possibly move to the another club before the derby between PSG against bayern.
Bayern has a very good strategy to protect messi. I hope bayern will win from this derby https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/history/h2h/50037/52747/

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December 25, 2022, 02:00:57 PM
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The reason that PSG is not the favorite for the title now has everything to do with the draw in which they play against Bayern Munich. Manchester City plays against RB Leipzig, which explains the divergent odds. If PSG manage to get through this round unscathed, then both teams will be back on the same odds. I always like to see outsiders at a tournament, maybe we should count Napoli among the outsiders. Apart from them and the favourites, I don't see any surprises happening in this season of the CL. But we will know more in February.
It is easier for Manchester City to meet against RB Leipzig than other great teams that have met each other and of course a difficult match for other teams including PSG, Manchester city is easier to face RB and will qualify for the next round  Wink

Leipzig are not a tough opponent for Manchester City. A relatively weak team is Leipzig. But there is no way to ignore this team. Smaller teams often win against bigger teams in the Champions League. Last season we saw Villarreal's great performances. And so if Manchester City want to qualify for the next round then they must play well. If they don't play well or make any tactical mistakes, they won't be able to win against Leipzig.
yes, that's the chance for the Manchester City club to qualify for the next round if they beat Leipzig, in contrast to other teams that face great teams and of course it takes more energy to come out victorious, for example PSG vs Bayern Munich and Real Madrid vs Liverpool are also very difficult matches and it's also worth watching, I'm sure Manchester City will play well against Leipzig later and qualify for the next round  Wink

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December 25, 2022, 02:01:33 PM
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It's difficult for Leipzig now especially now that their striker Nkunku is definitely going to Chelsea with his new deal and of course this leaves quite an obvious hole in attack and it will be difficult if they don't look for a replacement now.
On the other hand I don't even have the slightest doubt against Manchester City at this stage because their probabilities are strong so I think this will be a real win even though I agree don't underestimate Leipzig.
January transfer window is surely going to have big impact on many teams with the transfer of Nkunku is surely big setback for the Leipzig which were doing amazing stuff and having good chance for the next season will be also in Champions League but now surely things could be different specially as now they are also going to face Manchester City which is currently one of the best club in the world and having one of the best attack in UEFA as well.

Now most chances Manchester City is clearly having chance for the qualifying into next round because Nkunku was the best player in this side, and they already play good against Real Madrid but with this change performance level could be different, and we have to wait for their next movement.
Actually, when I saw Madrid's performance against Leipzig and they won, I didn't expect anything because when I saw Madrid lose, it wasn't too much of a problem for them, but I quite agree if I say losing Nkunku is a setback for Leipzig, especially since they actually still need this player but they just let it go.

Now Manchester City's condition is very strong and for Leipzig they must find a new striker who is worthy enough to fill the void and must strengthen the defense too of course because indeed they will definitely be pressed hard if it is not like that.

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December 25, 2022, 02:10:42 PM
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In my opinion, Real Madrid won't give up to try signing Mbappe. He is the most potential striker, especially after Mbappe performed brilliantly in the world cup tournament. Sure, PSG won't let Mbappe to leave before the season ends. Real Madrid only has a chance to make an offer after Mbappe finishes this season with PSG. As far as I know, Mbappe still has a dream to be a part of Real Madrid squad. It is his dream since he was a kid, he won't forget about it.

His dream was to play with Ronaldo and not just to play for Real Madrid, if Madrid really needs Mbappe service then they should give Ronaldo another chance to play for the club even though it's just for 1/2 years and use that time to draw Mbappe to the club. Mbappe lost interest in Real Madrid because his idol isn't playing for the club anymore and the disrespect the club showed to Ronaldo. Now Mbappe is losing interest in PSG as well because they didn't give him what they promised and the club is putting the whole attention on Messi.

Haaland and Mbappe will dominate the space for the next 10/15 years just as Ronaldo and Messi did. Real Madrid needs to get Mbappe before another club does (most especially the premier league clubs) because if we're to get both stars at the league then all focused will shift over there. Remember same thing happened when Ronaldo signed for Real Madrid. The English premier league are becoming dominate now and soon all attention will be shifted to that side.
Mbappe's dream to play in same team with Ronaldo is almost impossible at this time of his career because Mbappe is currently a PSG player and the probability of Ronaldo playing for PSG or Real Madrid before he retires is very low. I doubt it will even happen at this point. If Ronaldo completes a move to the Arab league it might be his last club to play for until he retires so I doubt it is going to happen. The era of Messi and Ronaldo is close to the end and the beginning of a new era for Haaland and Mbappe.

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December 25, 2022, 02:12:06 PM
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I cannot agree with you. Real Madrid were very lucky to win the title last season. At the same time, Benzema's consistently good performances helped Madrid win the Champions League title. But this season Benzema's fitness is not good. He is unable to stay with the squad due to injury. I think Real Madrid will be eliminated in the semi-finals.

Luck can't make them sequentially beat PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City who were the most nominated teams to win that title, what helped them is the winning mentality they showed. This season, I think Real Madrid is far from the competition, Manchester City with Halland and PSG with all their stars seem to be the strongest and most passionate teams. However, we should look at the winter transfer market before making a prediction, with the World Cup ended recently, the market this year should be on fire.

Yes, many times Real Madrid is not really the favorite in this competition. in fact, last season it was the same. however, they were able to overcome pessimism even though we can say that Real Madrid was very lucky in the last season. in fact, Don Carlo was able to bring his troops to win this competition trophy. and at this time, Madrid again not favored. especially since many of us doubted Benzema's existence because he was prone to injury. however, they remain one of the strong challengers in winning the Champions League trophy this season. maybe, Don Carlo will recruit several players in January to strengthen and sharpen his squad.

Likewise with Manchester City, Pep Guardiola is currently trying to bring in Jude Bellingham from Dotmund. Don't miss Bayern Munich, which is always rumored with some big stars. for PSG, their squad is already very strong up front, but it is possible that Galtier will bring in some attacking midfielders to sharpen their strength. yes, we'll see after this winter transfer window has opened. all the teams that we mention here, have the potential to win the trophy in this competition.

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December 25, 2022, 02:27:57 PM
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Since the round of 16 will take place over two leg, it is difficult to guess which team between them will qualify for the next round considering PSG and Bayern Munich are teams that have equally good strengths. In terms of chances, I have the same view as you that Paris Saint Germain has a greater chance of going to the next round than Bayern Munich.
Of course what I say is not a reference because anything can happen when the match is played for both leg.
Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer is injured which is a major drawback for the team. PSG is seeing its players like Messi and Mbappe in their best performance this season which should push the chances of PSG a lot. It is quite difficult to guess the winner since Bayern could trash their opponents quite easily whenever they are playing good but I guess PSG will not let them do that the Barca way Roll Eyes
Although it is not certain whether he will be able to appear or not on 15 February 2023, apart from Manuel Neuer there are several Bayern Munich players who are injured including Sadio Mane, Lucas Hernandez and Goretzka. This situation can certainly be an opportunity for Paris Saint Germain to reap full points at home.
In the Bayern Munich camp, especially Julian Nagelsmann, who will certainly prepare a special strategy to face PSG if before the match takes place his mainstay players cannot appear.

Head to Head PSG and Bayern Munich in this competition last season ended in a draw with a record of both winning 1 win, namely 0-1 PSG win at home to Bayern and 2-3 Bayern win at home to PSG.

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December 25, 2022, 02:29:16 PM
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I cannot agree with you. Real Madrid were very lucky to win the title last season. At the same time, Benzema's consistently good performances helped Madrid win the Champions League title. But this season Benzema's fitness is not good. He is unable to stay with the squad due to injury. I think Real Madrid will be eliminated in the semi-finals.

Luck can't make them sequentially beat PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City who were the most nominated teams to win that title, what helped them is the winning mentality they showed. This season, I think Real Madrid is far from the competition, Manchester City with Halland and PSG with all their stars seem to be the strongest and most passionate teams. However, we should look at the winter transfer market before making a prediction, with the World Cup ended recently, the market this year should be on fire.
Manchester City and PSG are the most likely teams to win the title. Because there are great games from both the teams who are currently performing quite well. The three best attacking players in the PSG team who are currently performing the best. On the other hand, Manchester City's Halland who is scoring great goals.

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