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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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February 20, 2023, 02:19:34 PM
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From the look of things, I think chelsea, Liverpool, PSG, are out of the champion league predicted winners picture. Its not too bad for PSG since they still lead the league one title race, and still has the hope of competing in the next year champion league competition, but I so much feel pity for chelsea and Liverpool who shall have nothing to fight for if kicked out of champion league, it will be so bad to see two top England clubs end the season like this.

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February 20, 2023, 02:34:33 PM
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.... but I so much feel pity for chelsea and Liverpool who shall have nothing to fight for if kicked out of champion league, it will be so bad to see two top England clubs end the season like this.
They brought it to themselves so there's really no place for pity. Ending the season out of the CL spot isn't going to hurt them that much. They'll most likely be back in a year or two anyway. It's just a cycle that every team goes through.

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February 20, 2023, 02:43:52 PM
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From the look of things, I think chelsea, Liverpool, PSG, are out of the champion league predicted winners picture. Its not too bad for PSG since they still lead the league one title race, and still has the hope of competing in the next year champion league competition, but I so much feel pity for chelsea and Liverpool who shall have nothing to fight for if kicked out of champion league, it will be so bad to see two top England clubs end the season like this.

I wouldn’t draw conclusions just yet on this three clubs. Liverpool is yet to play even though they might be going into this tie as the underdogs due to their recent performance but they are still a top team in Europe and UCL, and they could provide a set back should Real Madrid decide to slip up. As for both Chelsea and Dortmund they have the second leg to turn things around. The deficit isn’t that much and we have seen in the past teams turn those score lines around. In the last few minutes of Bayern against PSG match we could see how Mbappe came on to try to turn things around and if they could play the way they played in the last 10 minutes of that match then they could upset Bayern Munich.
Should PSG go out, then it will be a bad season regardless of winning their league. The main objective has been the UCL and with Messi, Mbappe and Neymar in their starling forms this should be there season to have a shot at it.

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February 20, 2023, 02:46:41 PM
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From the look of things, I think chelsea, Liverpool, PSG, are out of the champion league predicted winners picture.
Im feeling doubt about liverpool but i would say yes for PSG and chelsea. These clubs may be going out from UCL in the next match especially for chelsea which was always showing very bad performance. The fact that chelsea can't even make a single goal was a very disappointing result for sure. There are so many players are still facing injuries like kante and recently azpilicueta was also facing the same thing. Chelsea is having very big probability to be kicked out by dortmund.


Its not too bad for PSG since they still lead the league one title race, and still has the hope of competing in the next year champion league competition, but I so much feel pity for chelsea and Liverpool who shall have nothing to fight for if kicked out of champion league, it will be so bad to see two top England clubs end the season like this.
PSG will be playing without mbappe. Mbappe may be potential to be benched by galtier. Liverpool has not yet faced first match against real madrid. I think that we can't even predict it easily. Liverpool has a chance to win against madrid in the first leg on anfield. We shall wait the result between liverpool against madrid.

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February 20, 2023, 02:51:19 PM
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From the look of things, I think chelsea, Liverpool, PSG, are out of the champion league predicted winners picture. Its not too bad for PSG since they still lead the league one title race, and still has the hope of competing in the next year champion league competition, but I so much feel pity for chelsea and Liverpool who shall have nothing to fight for if kicked out of champion league, it will be so bad to see two top England clubs end the season like this.
From my perspective It's too early to conclude that Liverpool, Chelsea and PSG are already out of the Champions League despite the their first results and when we still have 2nd leg games to be played, You forgot this is football and Champions League for that matter, First leg game results don't usually predict what would be the outcome of the overall matches. it's not yet over until it's over, therefore anything can still happen during the second leg game, espect suprises too.

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February 20, 2023, 03:07:19 PM
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From the look of things, I think chelsea, Liverpool, PSG, are out of the champion league predicted winners picture. Its not too bad for PSG since they still lead the league one title race, and still has the hope of competing in the next year champion league competition, but I so much feel pity for chelsea and Liverpool who shall have nothing to fight for if kicked out of champion league, it will be so bad to see two top England clubs end the season like this.
From my perspective It's too early to conclude that Liverpool, Chelsea and PSG are already out of the Champions League despite the their first results and when we still have 2nd leg games to be played, You forgot this is football and Champions League for that matter and First leg games don't usually predict what would be the outcome of the overall matches. it's not yet over until it's over, therefore anything can still happen during second leg game.

I accept your stance on Liverpool and PSG because their performance is not that poor. These two teams can still win thier second leg matches. But Chelsea has shown no commitment to bounce back from their poor run. Their last against Southampton was not encouraging, although they controlled the game and got all the possession but they need to score goals to show commitment to win matches.

Except something extraordinary happens, I don't think Chelsea will be able to win Borussia Dortmund. This is a team that is second in the Bundesliga and in their last match against Hertha they won the match by four goals to one. Playing in Stanford Bridge will not even be an advantage because the fans are losing confidence in the current Chelsea squad.

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February 20, 2023, 03:36:31 PM
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liverpool vs madrid will be an exciting match because currently, Liverpool's performance is not in the best condition in the EPL, but I agree with what you said that Liverpool is a team that is difficult to predict. the team that will win is a team that has a strong winning mentality and madrid looks like it will come out victorious in this 1st leg.
We're not going to miss this game we know this is an even more exciting game to watch!
In terms of H2H, Real Madrid has won more wins and that is clear in the statistics, I know how Liverpool are in their own league, which is still difficult to develop, but with yesterday's victory, hopefully it will have a positive impact on becoming the next winning trend, including in the Champions League match.

Leg 1 plays at Anfield, of course it has to be a big capital to show fans that Klopp's troops can win at home. I'm just optimistic that as Liverpool fans they can appear more aggressive even though they know Real Madrid is a European giant for the UCL.

It is possible that for the current season, Liverpool can beat him, this will be different if Liverpool wins.

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From the look of things, I think chelsea, Liverpool, PSG, are out of the champion league predicted winners picture. Its not too bad for PSG since they still lead the league one title race, and still has the hope of competing in the next year champion league competition, but I so much feel pity for chelsea and Liverpool who shall have nothing to fight for if kicked out of champion league, it will be so bad to see two top England clubs end the season like this.
From my perspective It's too early to conclude that Liverpool, Chelsea and PSG are already out of the Champions League despite the their first results and when we still have 2nd leg games to be played, You forgot this is football and Champions League for that matter, First leg game results don't usually predict what would be the outcome of the overall matches. it's not yet over until it's over, therefore anything can still happen during the second leg game, espect suprises too.
Big mistake if you think that way for sure , everyone at champions league has a chance to qualify despite even losing big at the first leg , things could be really unpredictable in this kind of competitive european league , the low odds on them can't be a solid parameter , the next 90 minutes for sure uncertain.

I even see it as a big opportunity to earn big in a huge multiplier , game still on till next week.

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Manchester City are the big favorites to win the tournament. I thought that was a bit strange, but that has to do with the fact that Bayern Munich first has to eliminate PSG. If that has happened, the odds will be closer. Odds for Napoli to win the CL are around 7.00
Perhaps justified, but Napoli is perhaps stronger than that 7.00 suggests. Napoli have blown Liverpool off the pitch, but perhaps that victory is devalued as Liverpool are having a very poor season and could also lose 4-1 to relegation contenders in their own league. The same can be said of Ajax. Napoli will automatically get a real force measurement. Against Bayern Munich or City. I wonder how good they really are.

This trophy is the only missing item in Manchester City's collection. We know that they want very much to win this trophy. Maybe they didn't get the clear results they wanted in the league this year, and their situation causes a somewhat unstable appearance, but I'm sure they will take on a different identity in these matches. This year, my favorite will be Manchester City. I think they will not experience the misfortune that they had in the semi-finals last year.

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From the look of things, I think chelsea, Liverpool, PSG, are out of the champion league predicted winners picture. Its not too bad for PSG since they still lead the league one title race, and still has the hope of competing in the next year champion league competition, but I so much feel pity for chelsea and Liverpool who shall have nothing to fight for if kicked out of champion league, it will be so bad to see two top England clubs end the season like this.
It is not yet over because there are return legs; it is not ideal to simply conclude because things do happen in football, as I have experience. If you recall, almost everyone thought that Real Madrid would not qualify for the next round last season based on their first-leg result against Manchester City, but they did qualify and eventually won the title. So football is difficult to conclude in a timely manner because anything can happen.

And I can't predict who will qualify for the Liverpool-Real Madrid match because both teams are currently weak. And again, since the group stage, people have been complaining about Liverpool's poor performances, but they still qualified and even beat Napoli, who everyone knows it was in great form. Despite their poor performance in the Premier League, Liverpool has made a significant impact in the Champions League.or are you judging them base on thier previous matches? If so things changes.

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February 20, 2023, 03:59:05 PM
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I think Leipzig's match with Manchester City will be very tight. Although Leipzig are less strong than Manchester City. Sometimes it is seen that even the strong team loses to the weak team. For example, in the match between PSG and Brian Munich on that day, PSG lost. Here, PSG is stronger than Bayern Munich. Here we consider Leipzig to be less strong but they can surprise Manchester City by beating them.

Leipzig has a chance also because after the draw, everyone considered its results as "City has a 1/4 ticket in their pocket." Therefore, given the difficult situation in the Premier League, they will not try to achieve the most favorable score or something like that. Most likely it will be a quiet game with a minimal victory for one of the parties - in any case, if needed in the return game, City will solve all problems (at least in theory).

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I strongly favour bayern Munich to clinch this year champioms league..Real Madrid from the beginning of the season were strong and could definitely have easily be seen as a contender,but their recent form hasn't been too good.Manchester City on the other hand looks so strong but then fall short at the end,Liverpool aren't their self..I bet on Bayern Munich.
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From the look of things, I think chelsea, Liverpool, PSG, are out of the champion league predicted winners picture. Its not too bad for PSG since they still lead the league one title race, and still has the hope of competing in the next year champion league competition, but I so much feel pity for chelsea and Liverpool who shall have nothing to fight for if kicked out of champion league, it will be so bad to see two top England clubs end the season like this.
From my perspective It's too early to conclude that Liverpool, Chelsea and PSG are already out of the Champions League despite the their first results and when we still have 2nd leg games to be played, You forgot this is football and Champions League for that matter, First leg game results don't usually predict what would be the outcome of the overall matches. it's not yet over until it's over, therefore anything can still happen during the second leg game, espect suprises too.
You are right that in the second leg things can change significantly, that is not impossible in football. Moreover, they are only left behind on an aggregate of just one goal. As for Liverpool they haven't even played the first leg yet, we don't know what they will get in that first leg yet, although now it's clear Real Madrid are the big favorites in this first leg. I'm not going to comment too much on what they've done this season in the Premier League (for Chelsea and Liverpool).

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liverpool vs madrid will be an exciting match because currently, Liverpool's performance is not in the best condition in the EPL, but I agree with what you said that Liverpool is a team that is difficult to predict. the team that will win is a team that has a strong winning mentality and madrid looks like it will come out victorious in this 1st leg.

I can bet my last cent on that match that Liverpool will loose in the first leg and get knock down on the second leg and not because Madrid are experienced team, it's just that Liverpool doesn't have the balls to get pass this level. They have come far but I don't think there is a team that would advance from this leg with broken formation, their best Van Dijk is back and played average yesterday, nothing spectacular about Liverpool current form.

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So far in the Champions League, only Liverpool has been able to beat Napoli, so Napoli's performance can still be said to be very stable and good, facing Frankfurt shouldn't be a big problem for Napoli, because Frankfurt is not the favorite team to win and their performances in their local league also not so good.

It's possible for a team to underfperform in the domestic league and still do well in another league as long as they don't have consistent loses but I can tell you for free that Napoli is good in every way, they could call their league a farmer league but they are far from an average team in this knockout stage.

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February 20, 2023, 04:53:03 PM
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From my perspective It's too early to conclude that Liverpool, Chelsea and PSG are already out of the Champions League despite the their first results and when we still have 2nd leg games to be played, You forgot this is football and Champions League for that matter, First leg game results don't usually predict what would be the outcome of the overall matches. it's not yet over until it's over, therefore anything can still happen during the second leg game, espect suprises too.
I will definitely agree with you, it is way too early to write, Chelsea, Liverpool and Paris Saint Germain off, football is full of surprises, you never can tell what the result in the second leg will be, especially now that there is no more goal aggregate, so the three of them are still very in the League, we know that they are playing really bad at the moment, but never say is over until is over. So let's watch and see what will happen in this second leg.

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February 20, 2023, 04:58:11 PM
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There is some improvement in Liverpool's offense performance that's for certain. The last two games of them in the English Premier League are proofs for that.

However I still don't trust their defending at all. There was significant weaknesses in the game against Newcastle also for example. Newcastle still found important chances despite getting a red card. But Alisson's good effort made things better for Liverpool anyway. But Alisson can't save all the shots in the end. Klopp needs to figure a way out against Real Madrid. They will come across a solid attacking line of Real Madrid. Benzema isn't injury according to reports and he is available to play.

Benzema was like the key player for the team in the CL last season. He can be again so Liverpool defense need to be extra careful about him.

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February 20, 2023, 05:25:51 PM
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Looks like Napoli will be having an easy time in the Champions League against Eintracht Frankfurt.Frankfurt was great at the beginning of this season both in Bundesliga and Champions League and as such managed to come thus far in the Champions League but unfortunately their form is not one of the best recently having fallen down in the standings in Bundesliga.Napoli on the other side is on a huge run and is leading Serie A by 17 points to the second place and most likely will have no problems winning against Frankfurt.For me Napoli to qualify at a good odd is reasonable to bet a decent amount of money.

If we compare these two teams. on paper, Napoli is more favored. because after all, these two teams have a gap if we refer to their respective statistics. but it seems, this fight will take place very tough. because after all, these two teams have no historical record based on H2H. that is, it looks like Napoli will play a little more carefully in the first leg. I'm pretty sure Napoli won't be careless and underestimate the home team. because after all, Frankfurt will not let Napoli win easily.

On the other hand, as a coach, Oliver Glasner did not want his team to be humiliated by Napoli at their own headquarters. at least, Glasner will prepare his team to play as much as possible to win at their own headquarters. however, it seems that it will not be easy at all. but at least, Frankfurt will appear all out to balance Napoli's game.
my estimation, this match will not produce many goals even though Napoli has a high probability of winning.

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February 20, 2023, 06:17:49 PM
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There is some improvement in Liverpool's offense performance that's for certain. The last two games of them in the English Premier League are proofs for that.

However I still don't trust their defending at all. There was significant weaknesses in the game against Newcastle also for example. Newcastle still found important chances despite getting a red card. But Alisson's good effort made things better for Liverpool anyway. But Alisson can't save all the shots in the end. Klopp needs to figure a way out against Real Madrid. They will come across a solid attacking line of Real Madrid. Benzema isn't injury according to reports and he is available to play.

Benzema was like the key player for the team in the CL last season. He can be again so Liverpool defense need to be extra careful about him.
If you look at it at a glance, they did make changes in the attack line, but for me personally that's not enough, I still have to see how consistent they are. The opponent they will face in the Champions League is the club that has won the Champions League the most times, we know how strong they are when they play here. Liverpool's problem is not only in themselves, but also in the opponents they will face. However they will not be easy when they are still in a very difficult situation that they still can't get out of that difficult situation.

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February 20, 2023, 06:25:27 PM
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From my perspective It's too early to conclude that Liverpool, Chelsea and PSG are already out of the Champions League despite the their first results and when we still have 2nd leg games to be played, You forgot this is football and Champions League for that matter, First leg game results don't usually predict what would be the outcome of the overall matches. it's not yet over until it's over, therefore anything can still happen during the second leg game, espect suprises too.
I will definitely agree with you, it is way too early to write, Chelsea, Liverpool and Paris Saint Germain off, football is full of surprises, you never can tell what the result in the second leg will be, especially now that there is no more goal aggregate, so the three of them are still very in the League, we know that they are playing really bad at the moment, but never say is over until is over. So let's watch and see what will happen in this second leg.

Without meaning to underestimate but in reality, their performance at this moment does not promise them to go further in the Champions League. If you mean a miracle, then they don't always get a miracle either because at this moment they can't depend only on luck.

Therefore, if I consider their quality at this moment. So in reality, their quality is lower than the quality of their opponents such as Dortmund, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.

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February 20, 2023, 06:46:35 PM
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Bayern and Real Madrid still favorites for the Champions League? I fear Bayern are going to struggle to keep their players fresh and fit for games because they are being pressured in the Bundesliga and they are already dropping points. Union and Dortmund are pushing them and I think it could go up to the last few weeks with Bayern being distracted by the Champions League. I think they have a decision the Bundesliga or the Champions League because if they go for both I think they will fail at winning both.

Real Madrid have a lot of injuries and I am not sure they are the strongest team because of that. I think Dortmund are looking the best as underdogs and are not as distracted as Bayern
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