UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season

[gabbie2010]

I know that Liverpool were still bad in the Premier League while they were doing a great job in the Champions League group stage. However Liverpool still can't improve their performance now. Injuries are also a factor in this of course because they have some important players missing still - like Diaz and Firmino. If they were able to play things might have been better for Liverpool. Maybe they are bad at defending but at least they could have strengthened their attacking area.

This time liverpool is not performing as well as usual. The bad performance in EPL will be greatly affecting the performance of liverpool in UCL. I can take the result from two matches against brighton and wolves gave a significant impact to the liverpool.

Nunez and gakpo have become failed transfers by liverpool. Im glad to see that aurelien tchouameni was waiting for madrid rather than decided move to the liverpool.

Nunez and Gakpo are young talented players. They have been recruited into the team after long planning. Now these two players are not playing well. They are also missing out on easy opportunities. As they gradually become more experienced, their performance may stabilize. But Liverpool's match strategy also has problems with Jurgen Klopp not doing his job properly.

Perhaps Liverpool is still missing Sadio Mane. Liverpool's biggest mistake this season was deciding to sell Mane without finding a suitable replacement. And because of this mistake, Liverpool's situation is still unstable.

Until the likes of injured Virgil van Dijk whose replacement Gomez at the Liverpool defense hasn't live up to expectations returns to the team and strength their defense else the team will continue to concede goals likewise the return of the injured trio Diogo Jota, Firmino and Luis Diaz will strengthen their attack because the newly signed Gakpo and Nunez had not been very consistent in scoring in goals, in fact Gakpo has been the shadow of former self after signing him from PSV Eindhoven, some of those players return date is fixed at mid February however will they be fit to play UCL matches? time will tell.

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[rendravolt]

I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.

Indeed, there has been much speculation about Liverpool's performance dropping since being abandoned by Sadio Mane who went to Bayern Munich in the 2022/2023 summer transfer market. But that shouldn't be a concrete reason for Liverpool about their performance this season.

Maybe they are just too fixated on the same pattern of play and don't want to try new things because as we know every team in every different season there will definitely be a team that starts to show good performance and it looks like Liverpool is too weak to be able to develop so far and if Kloop fails especially to bring Liverpool to the next round of the UCL, surely his fate will be on the brink of being sacked by Liverpool.

[indah rezqi]

Personally I support Klopp to stay in Liverpool at least one more season. If he can not improve the club performance in the next season, he should leave.

I can consider it a very wise decision because without success I don't think a trainer is worth keeping for a longer period of time. Klopp has worked for Liverpool since 2015, he spent several seasons helping Liverpool win several titles including the Premier League title. Klopp has succeeded in making Liverpool consistent and competing for the title with Manchester City and other teams, but this season Liverpool's performance has been very different, raising big questions.

I don't really know where he went wrong, after all he has got some new players but his performance is not to be expected. There are 18 match left in the season to improve his team's form and if it does fail to make the top 4 then I think it's good to expect him out of Liverpool at the end of the season.

[Silence Scream]

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Have possibility and rumor about Manchester City will get points deduction in Primer League but his participants in Champion League will disqualify or not.

I've been searching for a statement from them since Man City allegedly violated some UEFA rules too. This case is probably related to the reason why UEFA handed down a two-year ban on European competition to City but that was overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport back in 2020. That means they've been cleared and won't be disqualified from Champions League.

Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.

[temple]

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Have possibility and rumor about Manchester City will get points deduction in Primer League but his participants in Champion League will disqualify or not.

I've been searching for a statement from them since Man City allegedly violated some UEFA rules too. This case is probably related to the reason why UEFA handed down a two-year ban on European competition to City but that was overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport back in 2020. That means they've been cleared and won't be disqualified from Champions League.

I suppose by now nobody really understands what is going on anymore. There should be a much more universally applicable rule. National associations have their rules, then there is UEFA and then there is also FIFA and some other international court involved and so on and so forth. What did they find now that they couldn't prove last time when they turned the judgment over? It is permanently this back and forth with all these threats and no action being taken. I was shocked when I saw how rigorously Juventus Turin was treated by the Serie A committee. They have really taken hard action. Within a blink of an eye they took away any chance for the championship and also made it close to impossible for Juventus Turin to qualify for the international competitions.

There is so much prestige in the Champions League and so many strong actors and a strong lobby that I highly doubt that Manchester City will be disqualified. Think about it, all those other clubs that are frequently crossing the lines financially won't be interested in Manchester City being turned into a precedent. If that happens once, they all have to fear the same or similar judgment. I think that there is a strong lobby trying to bend the facts in favor of Manchester City.

Even though I do of course like strong soccer teams like Manchester City, I also think that sport should remain at least to a certain degree about passion and quality and not about money and financial shenanigans only.

If Manchester City gets banned I think this year is the last chance for Guardiola to win it!

[redsun114]

I blame Klopp for not being able to know how important Mane is to his team. Even when he is the coach. He should know the individual ability of the players in his team.
Liverpool problems just started as Mane departed the club and I can also say that it wasn't a coincidence. Assuming Mane is still in Liverpool, the club wouldn't have been suffering what they are suffering now

it is also because the current squad which is expected to have chemistry like the trio that Liverpool once had will be formed again with new players. and that turned out to be difficult after Mane left Liverpool. it turns out that the impact of Mane's departure was very large. maybe Klopp thinks having Salah is enough. but the truth is he should regret it.
Liverpool is struggling in the Premier League, and facing Madrid in the Champions League is of course a tough game. Liverpool has lacked this season. and it looks sharp compared to last season.

There is no doubt about this Sadio Mané departure is having the biggest negative impact on them, and they are paying for this all because in last season they were doing amazing job and have enough depth in their team which is currently at lowest level and their new signings are also not working as they were expected specially Nunez which was bought as Sadio Mané replacement no near his quality and performance with big waste of money as well because if they keep Sadio Mané and increase his salary surely this will be better and with this having better results in both leagues were also possible.

But now as they have done this mistake and paying for this all I have feeling Klopp still deserve chance for giving his best with this team because he has long time here, and he understands better chemistry of the conditions and players he can handle this all but if they have done mistake like Chelsea then surely this can go like them as well of big mess up and nothing positive.

[lixer]

Milan can't suddenly start being a great team in UCL just because they are losing in the league. I mean they are not doing that great right now and they won't do anything good in UCL neither, that is not going to happen, that is going to be a problem for them.

Doesn't mean they can't beat Spurs, there is a good chance that they could beat Spurs and that could happen, but that doesn't change the fact that we will see them do even better afterwards, the best they can do will be beating Spurs, after that, unless they get a very very lucky draw from a much smaller team, they are going to lose, and there is a big possibility that they will lose to Spurs as well.

In last five games day by day they are going down from bad to worse with their defense is surely completely not working, and they are conceding great number of goals which is the biggest concern for the Pioli 14 goals in five games is surely the worst situation for the AC Milan against Tottenham which is doing better at English Premier League and their attack is also much better than AC Milan which will create problems for them as well but here which strategy will work for the Milan to handle against Tottenham it's a biggest question right now and have no replies from management or players they are mentally down and their performance is also on lowest level look like they are going to be had changes if they want better results otherwise this is going to be worst end for them after having title in last season.

[Merit.s]

Liverpool's situation is very sad now. The Liverpool team is now in tenth place in the points table. There are plenty of star players in the Liverpool squad. But still their overall performance is very poor. And I don't expect a good performance from them this season either. Next season, Liverpool management may make several changes within their team to strengthen the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to fire the coach.

I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.

There is an issue or tradition about a curse for Liverpool, about a coach who has been in charge for a few seasons and then makes the team's good performance disappear. This case happened or was experienced by Klopp at this time who was right about the issues and or traditions regarding the curse in question, whether it was true or not but I think I quite admit it too.

Because losing one player is basically not a big problem, because as a big team, Liverpool certainly has other players who can keep the team performing well. So yes, Liverpool's chances in the Champions League this time are really very worrying and I'm not sure Liverpool can keep up with Real Madrid.

Nobody expected this drastic depreciation from Liverpool team this season,they did very well last season and now they are messing the all thing up. I don't think that Liverpool will be able to play Real Madrid confidently in that match because Liverpool is so weak that smaller clubs do win them in their local league. Real Madrid might not be consistent recently, but I know that Ancelotti will work properly on his boys,since they are still a strong club.

[Raflesia]

Milan can't suddenly start being a great team in UCL just because they are losing in the league. I mean they are not doing that great right now and they won't do anything good in UCL neither, that is not going to happen, that is going to be a problem for them.

Doesn't mean they can't beat Spurs, there is a good chance that they could beat Spurs and that could happen, but that doesn't change the fact that we will see them do even better afterwards, the best they can do will be beating Spurs, after that, unless they get a very very lucky draw from a much smaller team, they are going to lose, and there is a big possibility that they will lose to Spurs as well.

In last five games day by day they are going down from bad to worse with their defense is surely completely not working, and they are conceding great number of goals which is the biggest concern for the Pioli 14 goals in five games is surely the worst situation for the AC Milan against Tottenham which is doing better at English Premier League and their attack is also much better than AC Milan which will create problems for them as well but here which strategy will work for the Milan to handle against Tottenham it's a biggest question right now and have no replies from management or players they are mentally down and their performance is also on lowest level look like they are going to be had changes if they want better results otherwise this is going to be worst end for them after having title in last season.

Milan's condition is quite difficult with their current weak defense.
Tottenham is clearly one of the favorites in their current condition and I think they are the ones who will qualify for the next phase in this round.
Milan will host the first leg, but with their current condition, even though they are playing at home, I am personally quite skeptical of them, especially if they still can't improve their performance in midfield and defense.

[dezoel]

Liverpool's situation is very sad now. The Liverpool team is now in tenth place in the points table. There are plenty of star players in the Liverpool squad. But still their overall performance is very poor. And I don't expect a good performance from them this season either. Next season, Liverpool management may make several changes within their team to strengthen the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to fire the coach.

I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.

If someone wants to figure out problems at Liverpool then surely he needs to check all things related to this club as there is no doubt Mane having good impact on Liverpool performance in last few years, and he was key player for them with few injuries are also having big impact as Firmino and van Dijk both are also not available which is also having negative impact on their performance.

Right now, Klopp is doing his best for changing fortune, but things are not working in his favour but good thing happening Liverpool management is giving him good time which is positive as he still capable of changing things in team's favour even this season is going to be nightmare for them, but hopefully they will have positive change at the end.

[Cryptomultiplier]

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Have possibility and rumor about Manchester City will get points deduction in Primer League but his participants in Champion League will disqualify or not.

I've been searching for a statement from them since Man City allegedly violated some UEFA rules too. This case is probably related to the reason why UEFA handed down a two-year ban on European competition to City but that was overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport back in 2020. That means they've been cleared and won't be disqualified from Champions League.

Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.

The news about the Manchester city being looked into for financial breaches since 2029/2020 till date is something else. Not mere sanctions but an expulsion from the major leagues they play in now would be the justice meted.
After 9years I thought the issue of the financial breach was cleared, only for it to hunt them now. The issue is serious as the other big teams are in support for law and sanctions becoming effective.

[Silberman]

There is so much prestige in the Champions League and so many strong actors and a strong lobby that I highly doubt that Manchester City will be disqualified. Think about it, all those other clubs that are frequently crossing the lines financially won't be interested in Manchester City being turned into a precedent. If that happens once, they all have to fear the same or similar judgment. I think that there is a strong lobby trying to bend the facts in favor of Manchester City.

I agree with you, at most it can be argued that Manchester City is being too aggressive while disregarding the rules, but it should be obvious that most clubs are doing more or less the same or they will be unable to compete with them at all, so it is not on the best interest of the biggest clubs around the world that such a big deal is made about those accusations as they know they could be next if this were to happen.

[KTChampions]

Both clubs unexpectedly lost their games, but I would say that these are very different defeats. Real Madrid maintain a good percentage of points scored, while Liverpool falls deeper and is currently even outside the European competition area. They have a game in hand, but it can also turn not into three points, but into something worse 
In general, I continue to consider Real as a favorite in this pair.

I also think that Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League over Liverpool. Real Madrid has good chance to win the match and qualify for the quarter-finals even though they are both in bit of bad form recently. Liverpool have been appear substandard all season even if they did well in the Champions League group stages, but at least I can hope nothing changes from Liverpool regarding their form and they should be out of the Champions League in this round of 16.

Apart from Real Madrid being the champions last season, they are the most experienced team in this competition so the mentality can still be expected. Real Madrid's performance has always been good in the Champions League even though they could have lost and failed this season.

By the way, now, despite the fact that the bookmakers give equal chances to both Real and Liverpool, I'm sure they evaluate Real as a clear favorite. I noticed that bookmakers very rarely change their quotes much even if the team falls into a period of bad luck or loses its best scorer, etc. In a pair of Real Madrid - Liverpool, initially Liverpool was a big favorite, but now the quotes are equal. This suggests that the bookmakers realized that they were wrong, but they cannot "turn around" their opinion, but the changes that have taken place are the maximum for their business.

[BlackBoss_]

By the way, now, despite the fact that the bookmakers give equal chances to both Real and Liverpool, I'm sure they evaluate Real as a clear favorite. I noticed that bookmakers very rarely change their quotes much even if the team falls into a period of bad luck or loses its best scorer, etc. In a pair of Real Madrid - Liverpool, initially Liverpool was a big favorite, but now the quotes are equal.

Liverpool have very poor performance in Premier League that is worse than what I can think of. They not only have draw, lose points but also have terrible loses. They still have good players but maybe this season is not a good one for all of them and in general Liverpool can not have good combinations of those players. Therefore, they are more sensitive to lose points to any opponent, not only to big and strong opponents.

This suggests that the bookmakers realized that they were wrong, but they cannot "turn around" their opinion, but the changes that have taken place are the maximum for their business.

In football and in matches between big clubs, we can not say anything definitely will happen and bookmakers are so scam with bet data they have so that they can easily flip all to take money from most of gamblers.

[makishart]

Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.

It doesn't even need to wait for UEFA to ban city to make pep leaves from city. If premier league will be giving a serious sanction and that will be enough for pep to leave from manchester city. I think that manchester city has been making pep guardiola feel disappointed with the management of club. The management of the club has been lying to him. The performance of city in UCL will be greatly affected by this scandal. You can read this to know more.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11718131/Pep-Guardiola-odds-leave-Man-City-start-season-financial-charges.html

[rendravolt]

Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.

It doesn't even need to wait for UEFA to ban city to make pep leaves from city. If premier league will be giving a serious sanction and that will be enough for pep to leave from manchester city. I think that manchester city has been making pep guardiola feel disappointed with the management of club. The management of the club has been lying to him. The performance of city in UCL will be greatly affected by this scandal. You can read this to know more.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11718131/Pep-Guardiola-odds-leave-Man-City-start-season-financial-charges.html

It is indeed very regrettable what the management of the Manchester City club has done to all parties involved, moreover Pep Guardiola is the first person who will criticize leaving Manchester City if they are proven guilty of this scandal. We know Pep Guardiola is a strict and disciplined person on the pitch and he doesn't hesitate to speak out what he thinks is not right and it looks like this problem will make him leave Manchester City soon.

[Cookdata]

If someone wants to figure out problems at Liverpool then surely he needs to check all things related to this club as there is no doubt Mane having good impact on Liverpool performance in last few years, and he was key player for them with few injuries are also having big impact as Firmino and van Dijk both are also not available which is also having negative impact on their performance.

Klopp has been frustrated by how many teams have pushed him to the breaking point and turned him into a laughing stock after selling Mane, who was a part of their greatest achievement, and despite the new players they have brought in, there hasn't been any improvement in their play. However, I anticipate that they will ask Firmino and Van Dijk to return for Champions League games, unless they want Salah and Gakpo to suffer their losses at the hands of Real Madrid.

Right now, Klopp is doing his best for changing fortune, but things are not working in his favour but good thing happening Liverpool management is giving him good time which is positive as he still capable of changing things in team's favour even this season is going to be nightmare for them, but hopefully they will have positive change at the end.

If Liverpool doesn't hire a new manager, Klopp will obviously make a wholesale switch on players like Firmino and those who are always injured. He has three years more left at the club on his contract, which is more than enough time to improve the club.

[Docnaster]

Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.

It doesn't even need to wait for UEFA to ban city to make pep leaves from city. If premier league will be giving a serious sanction and that will be enough for pep to leave from manchester city. I think that manchester city has been making pep guardiola feel disappointed with the management of club. The management of the club has been lying to him. The performance of city in UCL will be greatly affected by this scandal. You can read this to know more.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11718131/Pep-Guardiola-odds-leave-Man-City-start-season-financial-charges.html

I don't see any great reason for Manchester City to put her coach in a dark. if you lie to the manager of your company about the operational difficulties of faults of your company the manager will not give his best or will not be on the same page with the company. If Manchester City is giving punishment only in EPL Guardiola may decide to stay because he will try his best to push the team to top four but  if it is extended to Champions League Guardiola may decide to leave Manchester City

[SatoPrincess]

I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.

Mane is not the only player who left the team, but this is not an indicator, for example, Lewandowski also left Bayern, but this was not such a tangible loss for them. One player cannot have such an impact on the team. With Liverpool it is not clear what is happening, it seems that they fell asleep and cannot wake up. Klopp has done a lot for the team, but now we see that he cannot fix the crisis that has been going on for a long time. It's not just the renewal of players that matters to teams, sometimes a new coach brings new energy, as it did with Everton.

A difficult situation, because they understand that a manager like Klopp is not easy to find, but now it is not clear whether he can fix the situation in the team. And it’s not clear what is needed for this, perhaps it is necessary to update the squad with young players.

Liverpool's form this season has been so bad I can’t believe this is the same team that went head to head with Manchester City until the last game of the season for the league title. Mane was a great asset to the team and I think his departure was premature, but they have had enough time to adjust and replace Mane. Liverpool are yet to find a solution to their problems and looking for who and what to blame, the club wasn’t built around Mane so his absence is not the reason for the poor form, also I want to say sacking Klopp would be a mistake because finding a good coach these days is difficult.

[slapper]

Liverpool's situation is very sad now. The Liverpool team is now in tenth place in the points table. There are plenty of star players in the Liverpool squad. But still their overall performance is very poor. And I don't expect a good performance from them this season either. Next season, Liverpool management may make several changes within their team to strengthen the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to fire the coach.

I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.

If someone wants to figure out problems at Liverpool then surely he needs to check all things related to this club as there is no doubt Mane having good impact on Liverpool performance in last few years, and he was key player for them with few injuries are also having big impact as Firmino and van Dijk both are also not available which is also having negative impact on their performance.

Right now, Klopp is doing his best for changing fortune, but things are not working in his favour but good thing happening Liverpool management is giving him good time which is positive as he still capable of changing things in team's favour even this season is going to be nightmare for them, but hopefully they will have positive change at the end.

As the squad has been underperforming as of late, it is natural that Liverpool supporters are feeling dissatisfied and disillusioned. Without a question, losing many important players has been a major setback, and it's obvious that the squad will need to try something new if they want to break out of their present rut.

It is possible that Klopp's vast playing experience and familiarity with the team's strengths may prove to be instrumental in reviving the team's winning ways. Liverpool still has a shot at winning the Premier League if they give him time and backing; he has a solid track record.