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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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February 05, 2023, 11:48:23 AM
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Liverpool are going nowhere further after this stage it's the same for Madrid after this stage
It's the champions league you don't just input young players you also add experience to win difficult games
Ceballos and Valverde for the start and Modric I will suggest
If Liverpool miss it , I think they won't be coming for the next champions league. Their performance in EPL is very terrible which will not make them to qualify for champions league.  Liverpool started the season very bad and it affecting them up till this moment to improve.

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February 05, 2023, 11:56:28 AM
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Liverpool are going nowhere further after this stage it's the same for Madrid after this stage
It's the champions league you don't just input young players you also add experience to win difficult games
Ceballos and Valverde for the start and Modric I will suggest
If Liverpool miss it , I think they won't be coming for the next champions league. Their performance in EPL is very terrible which will not make them to qualify for champions league.  Liverpool started the season very bad and it affecting them up till this moment to improve.
It's only natural that doubts about Liverpool are so attached now. In the Premier League, what will be expected of them now, because they haven't made changes that will make them even better, even in their last match they have lost to FC Wolves with a landslide score, 3 goals without reply. It's really sad what Liverpool is experiencing right now, even some of the players who played in that match made mistakes they shouldn't have made. Really this is a very difficult situation being faced by Jurgen Klopp's team.

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February 05, 2023, 12:21:50 PM
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In my personal opinion, Manchester City has the best team in England and Europe for the last few years, they are led by a coach who has won the Champions League with Barcelona many times, but Manchester City still failed to win the Champions League even though they tried everything they could.
The owners of PSG also invested a lot of money and time to bring the biggest stars to their team, Mbappe, Neymar and Messi but they also failed to win the Champions League, even though it is their biggest desire.
On the other hand, Real Madrid has won the Champions League several times in recent years, although they were never the main favorites.
It's really hard to explain what it takes for a club to win the Champions League, what is the x-factor. In my opinion, it's about the compactness of the team, the unity of the team and the confidence and great mental strength.

Real Madrid weren't favorites last season, but back when they won the Champions League 3 times in a row and when Ronaldo was in his prime, they were favorites every season.
As for the X factor, there is none. There is a bit of randomness as this is a knockout game and not a round robin.

The Champions League is a very uncertain competition with a lot of great teams and of course no club is a favorite for the title of European champion, there are always more candidates for the title.
But so far it has been shown that the Champions League can't be won by buying the world's best players and that only the individual quality of the players is not enough to win the Champions League title, as Manchester City and PSG have seen from their experiences in recent years.
However, it is no coincidence that Real has been European champion so many times in recent years, and these two clubs that invested much more money in players, PSG and Manchester City, have never been European champions.
Real became European champions last season, although in every game of the knockout stage of the competition they were close to relegation and each time Real miraculously saved themselves. If that's not the X factor, then I don't know what is. Do you have a rational explanation for it?  Grin

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February 05, 2023, 01:09:31 PM
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According to my prediction for the first leg, Liverpool will win the game. It's a habit for Real Madrid to lose the first leg, and they will fight it out in the second.
But if we look at the declining performance of Liverpool's players, it might be difficult for them to beat Real Madrid. Moreover, talking about UEFA, Madrid will do anything to get a ticket to the next round. If Real Madrid put young players in the midfield, it will give Real Madrid a bad performance.
Real Madrid doesn't frequently lose in the first leg, on the previous year Real Madrid was only lose for few times. Although Liverpool is strong in Champions League, but their current performance is bad and I don't think they can beat Real Madrid. Well, it's not a bad idea to put young players in the midfield because they also have good performance just like their senior teammates.

Ceballos, Valverde, Tchouameni and Camavinga are good players, Tchouameni just need to learn and have more experience to be as good as Casemiro.

Liverpool are going nowhere further after this stage it's the same for Madrid after this stage
It's the champions league you don't just input young players you also add experience to win difficult games
Ceballos and Valverde for the start and Modric I will suggest
I really laughed at Liverpool's game. Despite having some great players in the team, they were beaten shamefully by Wolves. The current condition of the team is not good, the team needs to do great work.

No doubt it will be difficult for Liverpool to survive in the Champions League with what they have at the moment. This situation is very unlikely for Liverpool to compete with other Champions League challengers

I regret that Liverpool's failure last season in the Champions League has not made them learn to improve this season. I wonder what is the main basis that made Liverpool undergo significant changes from last season?

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February 05, 2023, 01:30:50 PM
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According to my prediction for the first leg, Liverpool will win the game. It's a habit for Real Madrid to lose the first leg, and they will fight it out in the second.
But if we look at the declining performance of Liverpool's players, it might be difficult for them to beat Real Madrid. Moreover, talking about UEFA, Madrid will do anything to get a ticket to the next round. If Real Madrid put young players in the midfield, it will give Real Madrid a bad performance.
it's not as easy as you think, I mean real madrid will not give Liverpool a chance to beat them in the first leg. The first leg is indeed very crucial because this is the capital of the team enthusiasm to see the second leg. Karim Benzema and Vinicius are the two players who have often scored against Liverpool in their last 5 meetings. I think these two players have relatively strong instincts to return to contribute their goals when this match takes place later.

For Kloop, he has a gap that must be overcome immediately before the important match against Real Madrid takes place. There is still time for Jurgen Kloop to find a formation and restore the enthusiasm of the players for the match against Real Madrid.

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February 05, 2023, 03:10:39 PM
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Aubameyang has not been making much impact in the team, I doubt if his absence will have any impact on the team's performance and even if they fail to progress in the Champions league it wouldn't be because of Aubameyang's presence but because the team generally couldn't perform well in the game. I don't think Aubameyang's presence or absence really matters now.
But they have been doing so poorly in the EPL in front of goal, and it's very evident that they are missing a top tier center forward. To see Chelsea scramble for useless signings from rivals, forgetting about making priority signings they actually needed, was actually very laughable to say the least.

well there's not much we can expect from Chelsea's current form. they really lack in midfield and up front. even in the last match in the EPL Chelsea as the host was held to a draw by Fullham. even though they dominated the match, they even had difficulty penetrating Fullham's defense. I think Dortmund will really make it difficult for Chelsea in the last 16 match later. because Dortmund really are in their best form at the moment.

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February 05, 2023, 04:09:21 PM
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Mbappe has never actually been injured, but he was injured in the week prior to the match against Bayern Munich. That means he will miss the match against Bayern Munich next week, but also the return. That could be a very costly injury. PSG with or without Mbappe is a world of difference. The bookies now believe that the game in Paris is a 50-50 game, and that Bayern Munich is the home favorite in the return. I just don't know just yet, maybe Bayern Munich is also in a very mediocre phase, despite the fact that they just have a fit selection. But what good is that if the performance is not good and is disappointing?

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February 05, 2023, 04:12:43 PM
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it's not as easy as you think, I mean real madrid will not give Liverpool a chance to beat them in the first leg. The first leg is indeed very crucial because this is the capital of the team enthusiasm to see the second leg. Karim Benzema and Vinicius are the two players who have often scored against Liverpool in their last 5 meetings. I think these two players have relatively strong instincts to return to contribute their goals when this match takes place later.

For Kloop, he has a gap that must be overcome immediately before the important match against Real Madrid takes place. There is still time for Jurgen Kloop to find a formation and restore the enthusiasm of the players for the match against Real Madrid.
Real Madrid have habit with comeback on second leg and seems there are not any crucial match for first leg, although will make it easy for second leg but Real Madrid have good experienced last season until become the winner with first leg with bad result. This season seems different not only for Liverpool with very poor performance but also Real Madrid have not really impressive performance.

Exactly I doubt with Real Madrid because having many schedule before two weeks later against Liverpool on first leg in Champion League, but Carlo Ancelotti have new strategy with several player can playing in several position and become back up for other player have get rest.

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February 05, 2023, 04:31:03 PM
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According to my prediction for the first leg, Liverpool will win the game. It's a habit for Real Madrid to lose the first leg, and they will fight it out in the second.
But if we look at the declining performance of Liverpool's players, it might be difficult for them to beat Real Madrid. Moreover, talking about UEFA, Madrid will do anything to get a ticket to the next round. If Real Madrid put young players in the midfield, it will give Real Madrid a bad performance.
Real Madrid doesn't frequently lose in the first leg, on the previous year Real Madrid was only lose for few times. Although Liverpool is strong in Champions League, but their current performance is bad and I don't think they can beat Real Madrid. Well, it's not a bad idea to put young players in the midfield because they also have good performance just like their senior teammates.

Ceballos, Valverde, Tchouameni and Camavinga are good players, Tchouameni just need to learn and have more experience to be as good as Casemiro.

Liverpool are going nowhere further after this stage it's the same for Madrid after this stage
It's the champions league you don't just input young players you also add experience to win difficult games
Ceballos and Valverde for the start and Modric I will suggest

Real Madrid has a very good squad and an experienced coach, so it doesn't make sense to start thinking who will start for Real Madrid and who will bench. Whether they start old players or young players they will also get results especially when they have their experienced coach who knows when and how to feature.
Liverpool is not in good form to win Real Madrid convincingly in the Champions League.
Liverpool will play nothing on that day,they are depreciating every minutes,losing to small clubs in their local league, this is an evidence that they are having great challenges in the team,which is leading to their poor performance in their games. Klopp needs to do a great work to fix the club.

Real Madrid lost to Mallorca today with an own goal by Nacho,this doesn't mean that they are not in better position to win Liverpool. Real Madrid is second in their league with quality players and are also lucky in their matches when it comes to UCL. Considering all these,it is clear that they will win the match

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February 05, 2023, 04:34:08 PM
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Liverpool are going nowhere further after this stage it's the same for Madrid after this stage
It's the champions league you don't just input young players you also add experience to win difficult games
Ceballos and Valverde for the start and Modric I will suggest
I really laughed at Liverpool's game. Despite having some great players in the team, they were beaten shamefully by Wolves. The current condition of the team is not good, the team needs to do great work.
There is nothing to be proud of from Liverpool this season, a series of poor results achieved in the Premier League is undeniable proof that the team led by Jurgen Klopp will not be able to go any further in the UCL. The team's lack of confidence has made it difficult for Liverpool players to develop their game, the defeat that Liverpool recently won from Wolves was due to the poor performance shown by their players.

Facing Real Madrid is not an easy match for Liverpool who are in difficult times. Real Madrid will take advantage of the weaknesses of Liverpool back line to steal goals at Anfield. Klopp work is getting harder because this match is getting closer, he has not been able to find the best strategy to get out of the shadow of defeat.

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February 05, 2023, 04:39:35 PM
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Liverpool are going nowhere further after this stage it's the same for Madrid after this stage
It's the champions league you don't just input young players you also add experience to win difficult games
Ceballos and Valverde for the start and Modric I will suggest
I really laughed at Liverpool's game. Despite having some great players in the team, they were beaten shamefully by Wolves. The current condition of the team is not good, the team needs to do great work.
There is nothing to be proud of from Liverpool this season, a series of poor results achieved in the Premier League is undeniable proof that the team led by Jurgen Klopp will not be able to go any further in the UCL. The team's lack of confidence has made it difficult for Liverpool players to develop their game, the defeat that Liverpool recently won from Wolves was due to the poor performance shown by their players.

Facing Real Madrid is not an easy match for Liverpool who are in difficult times. Real Madrid will take advantage of the weaknesses of Liverpool back line to steal goals at Anfield. Klopp work is getting harder because this match is getting closer, he has not been able to find the best strategy to get out of the shadow of defeat.

The condition of the Real Madrid team is not very good. They lost badly in today's match. Liverpool are very strong opponents at the moment. However, Real Madrid have the ability to bounce back well.

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February 05, 2023, 04:43:41 PM
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Mbappe has never actually been injured, but he was injured in the week prior to the match against Bayern Munich. That means he will miss the match against Bayern Munich next week, but also the return. That could be a very costly injury. PSG with or without Mbappe is a world of difference. The bookies now believe that the game in Paris is a 50-50 game, and that Bayern Munich is the home favorite in the return. I just don't know just yet, maybe Bayern Munich is also in a very mediocre phase, despite the fact that they just have a fit selection. But what good is that if the performance is not good and is disappointing?
Losing Mbappe in a big match like this is a loss for Paris Saint Germain, because we know that Mbappe is a player who has strengthened Paris Saint Germain's line of attack. Even worse, he suffered an injury during an important game and it is a game that will make them calmer or not when they go through the match in the second leg later. What a loss for Paris Saint Germain now.

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February 05, 2023, 04:44:48 PM
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Mbappe has never actually been injured, but he was injured in the week prior to the match against Bayern Munich. That means he will miss the match against Bayern Munich next week, but also the return. That could be a very costly injury. PSG with or without Mbappe is a world of difference. The bookies now believe that the game in Paris is a 50-50 game, and that Bayern Munich is the home favorite in the return. I just don't know just yet, maybe Bayern Munich is also in a very mediocre phase, despite the fact that they just have a fit selection. But what good is that if the performance is not good and is disappointing?
The PSG team has some problems. I think the biggest problem with their team is that the team's defense is not able to support the attack. Besides, some problems of the midfielder are being noticed. PSG's chances in the Champions League are slim.

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February 05, 2023, 04:50:39 PM
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Mbappe has never actually been injured, but he was injured in the week prior to the match against Bayern Munich. That means he will miss the match against Bayern Munich next week, but also the return. That could be a very costly injury. PSG with or without Mbappe is a world of difference. The bookies now believe that the game in Paris is a 50-50 game, and that Bayern Munich is the home favorite in the return. I just don't know just yet, maybe Bayern Munich is also in a very mediocre phase, despite the fact that they just have a fit selection. But what good is that if the performance is not good and is disappointing?
Losing Mbappe in a big match like this is a loss for Paris Saint Germain, because we know that Mbappe is a player who has strengthened Paris Saint Germain's line of attack. Even worse, he suffered an injury during an important game and it is a game that will make them calmer or not when they go through the match in the second leg later. What a loss for Paris Saint Germain now.

Well, it's already a risk, because every player can get injured at any time and that's why rotation is so necessary. But yes, at least I also agree that in the absence of Mbappe, PSG is experiencing quite a bad situation at this moment. But the good news is that Bayern Munich still doesn't seem to have fully recovered.
Therefore, even though Mbappe cannot be played, with Bayern Munich's performance like that, at least PSG will still be able to get a good final result too.

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February 05, 2023, 05:04:49 PM
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Mbappe has never actually been injured, but he was injured in the week prior to the match against Bayern Munich. That means he will miss the match against Bayern Munich next week, but also the return. That could be a very costly injury. PSG with or without Mbappe is a world of difference. The bookies now believe that the game in Paris is a 50-50 game, and that Bayern Munich is the home favorite in the return. I just don't know just yet, maybe Bayern Munich is also in a very mediocre phase, despite the fact that they just have a fit selection. But what good is that if the performance is not good and is disappointing?
Losing Mbappe in a big match like this is a loss for Paris Saint Germain, because we know that Mbappe is a player who has strengthened Paris Saint Germain's line of attack. Even worse, he suffered an injury during an important game and it is a game that will make them calmer or not when they go through the match in the second leg later. What a loss for Paris Saint Germain now.

Well, it's already a risk, because every player can get injured at any time and that's why rotation is so necessary. But yes, at least I also agree that in the absence of Mbappe, PSG is experiencing quite a bad situation at this moment. But the good news is that Bayern Munich still doesn't seem to have fully recovered.
Therefore, even though Mbappe cannot be played, with Bayern Munich's performance like that, at least PSG will still be able to get a good final result too.
However, I think Bayern Munich and PSG's current state of performance, without Mbappe, PSG will be able to beat Bayern Munich. Because Lionel Messi is performing great. If the rest of the team can support Messi, it will be good.

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February 05, 2023, 05:13:47 PM
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Mbappe has never actually been injured, but he was injured in the week prior to the match against Bayern Munich. That means he will miss the match against Bayern Munich next week, but also the return. That could be a very costly injury. PSG with or without Mbappe is a world of difference. The bookies now believe that the game in Paris is a 50-50 game, and that Bayern Munich is the home favorite in the return. I just don't know just yet, maybe Bayern Munich is also in a very mediocre phase, despite the fact that they just have a fit selection. But what good is that if the performance is not good and is disappointing?
It is difficult to predict the match between these two teams in the UCL. Even though PSG are without Kylian Mbappe due to injury, Bayern Munich is not in a stable condition either. It can be said that these two teams are very even, so my option is to bet under 3.75 this time because in my opinion the two teams will not score more than 3 goals against each other.

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February 05, 2023, 05:47:47 PM
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A draw could also be a possibility in this match. They are 2 teams that both want to play football and score goals. But on Tuesday we also have the game AC Milan - Tottenham Hotspur. The English are the favorite in this game, in Milan it will be 50-50 but in 2 games I expect Tottenham to continue. I think the weakest teams in 1 match are those of the Benfica-Club Brugge match. A favorable draw for both. Benfica was also doing well in the CL last year. The coach of Bruges was fired a few weeks ago due to disappointing results in the competition. But winning the group in the CL apparently has no value anymore. Strange.

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February 05, 2023, 06:00:14 PM
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Real Madrid weren't favorites last season, but back when they won the Champions League 3 times in a row and when Ronaldo was in his prime, they were favorites every season.
As for the X factor, there is none. There is a bit of randomness as this is a knockout game and not a round robin.

The Champions League is a very uncertain competition with a lot of great teams and of course no club is a favorite for the title of European champion, there are always more candidates for the title.
But so far it has been shown that the Champions League can't be won by buying the world's best players and that only the individual quality of the players is not enough to win the Champions League title, as Manchester City and PSG have seen from their experiences in recent years.
However, it is no coincidence that Real has been European champion so many times in recent years, and these two clubs that invested much more money in players, PSG and Manchester City, have never been European champions.
Real became European champions last season, although in every game of the knockout stage of the competition they were close to relegation and each time Real miraculously saved themselves. If that's not the X factor, then I don't know what is. Do you have a rational explanation for it?  Grin

After a grueling struggle, the advantage of one of the teams becomes apparent at the end. In boxing, this is called championship rounds. Real Madrid were stronger than all their opponents, but not enough to win the entire segment of the confrontation. But towards the end, everything became clear. The game I remember most was against City - even before Real Madrid took the lead in extra time, the City players showed that they did not believe in their victory. And this is the dominant team in the Premier League! Such victories are probably even more convincing than victories with a score of 3-0 or similar.

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February 05, 2023, 07:17:07 PM
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A draw could also be a possibility in this match. They are 2 teams that both want to play football and score goals. But on Tuesday we also have the game AC Milan - Tottenham Hotspur. The English are the favorite in this game, in Milan it will be 50-50 but in 2 games I expect Tottenham to continue. I think the weakest teams in 1 match are those of the Benfica-Club Brugge match. A favorable draw for both. Benfica was also doing well in the CL last year. The coach of Bruges was fired a few weeks ago due to disappointing results in the competition. But winning the group in the CL apparently has no value anymore. Strange.
Ac milan against tottenham will be able to produce quite an interesting game in the match later. Giroud is a very experienced player against premier league teams. for sure he will know how to beat the tottenham team in the round of 16 match, but he will need the cooperative support of his colleagues to beat tottenham.

maybe from tottenham conte is one of the coaches who has long experience coaching serie A teams so that later meetings will be familiar to conte against AC milan. I think tottenham is stronger than Ac milan this season even the tottenham squad has more high quality players compared to Ac milan..

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February 05, 2023, 07:21:54 PM
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Liverpool - Real Madrid may be in the shadow of the PSG - Munich match. But it will also have everything to do with the fact that both teams are not doing their best at the moment. Real Madrid has a slightly lesser period after the winter break, but at Liverpool it has not been good since the start of the competition and extremely disappointing. I don't expect any special things from Liverpool in this match either, I wanted to say that I think Real Madrid should go through quite easily, but they also have a Benzema who is not in shape and last season it was already shown in this tournament that Benzema in shape is needed to bring success to Real Madrid.

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