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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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March 02, 2023, 06:04:08 AM
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I can't wait for the resumption of the Champions league games because at this point it becomes more interesting and much more competitive. Bayern Munich against PSG is the game I am anticipating, I want to see how well PSG can react to the first leg loss, could they bounce back to defeat and knock Bayern Munich out? Chelsea still have an opportunity to redeem themselves in the Champions league when  they face  Dortmund in the second leg fixture. With a goal difference from the previous meeting. Chelsea fans will be hoping their team can make a surprise come back to win by aggregates.
Bayern Munich have advantage on second leg with playing home and one goal away have been enough with draw only and qualify to next stage, difference with PSG after losing 0-1 on need win above two goals if want keep exist in Champion League. Seems unpredictable which one teams between Bayern Munich or PSG have bigger chance lead to next round because one goals seems small and PSG have chance to make come back on second leg.

Chelsea have better opportunity although losing one goal on first leg because they will play on home, but domestic league performance can't help them for winning with two goals margin without conceded from Dortmund.
Their narrow win in the first leg made it easier for them in the second leg later. As you said Bayern Munich enough to draw to win the game and qualify for the next round. I see that Paris Saint Germain is a team that is lame, I don't mean openly limp in terms of players, but they are lame in taking advantage of the potential that each player has. Bayern Munich will play as usual in my opinion, especially they are in a superior condition which will make them more comfortable to play.

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March 02, 2023, 06:20:20 AM
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I can't wait to watch Chelsea-Borussia Dortmund and Tottenham-Milan matches. Both of them have rather weak win results, that means B. Dortmund and Tottenham will apply high pressure until they score a goal. Its sad that Chelsea misses Thiago Silva because of injury. Chelsea is nearly terrible at Premier League this year so I wonder if they can eliminate Dortmund at all. I am mainly planning to watch Tottenham-Milan match but I will also look Bayern-PSG match (hoping for surprises)
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March 02, 2023, 06:27:18 AM
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I can't wait to watch Chelsea-Borussia Dortmund and Tottenham-Milan matches. Both of them have rather weak win results, that means B. Dortmund and Tottenham will apply high pressure until they score a goal. Its sad that Chelsea misses Thiago Silva because of injury. Chelsea is nearly terrible at Premier League this year so I wonder if they can eliminate Dortmund at all. I am mainly planning to watch Tottenham-Milan match but I will also look Bayern-PSG match (hoping for surprises)
Chelsea are currently getting more and more inflamed because Thiago Silva is confirmed to be absent even though there are indeed several players who can replace him but Silva is one of the main pillars that has always survived at this time.
On the other hand, it is also possible for Dortmund to not be able to play Adayemi who played well in the first leg.
As for Tottenham, their performance is currently in a less promising condition and they will play at the San Siro with an aggregate lag, which is actually quite difficult. Conte needs to think hard about their current condition.

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March 02, 2023, 06:56:56 AM
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Instead I think the opposite for Chelsea because of their current performance which is very bad, so even if only behind 1 goal and playing in itself does not mean it will be easy for Chelsea, even I predict Chelsea will be likely to reap defeat at home.
It doesn't even matter where chelsea will be playing on and its performance will always be the same. Winning against dortmund just a miracle that may not come for second time with the current performance from chelsea.
The match against dortmund gonna be the final match for potter. It's caused by he has got ultimatum from todd if he will be sacking potter once potter will be getting another bad result again.

The fact that if achievement by coach would always be measued from how many trophies already achieved and how consistent the club winning any game. This gonna be the end for potter but if the rumor about chelsea wanna try to sign brentford's coach and then it will be another journey for thomas frank to be sacked by todd in the future.

Chelsea is now a mediocre club with so many players. Even though bookies favoring chelsea but dortmund seems still safe bet for the upcoming match in stamford bridge.

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March 02, 2023, 09:04:47 AM
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Left behind 1 goal is not a difficult thing and also this is the match of two top European teams that are widely filled by players who have a good mentality so a cage or away factor has no big effect, PSG still has the same opportunity as Bayern to be able to qualify for the round furthermore.
I say that is inseparable from the top players that PSG has and their performance is also sometimes quite good so I think they still have that opportunity.
Because Bayern Munich and PSG are still among the best teams in their respective domestic leagues and also on the European stage this season, it is clear that home and away factors will not have more influence so it is true that the chances will still be the same for both of them in the second leg later. But this time I will remain more optimistic about Bayern Munich even though PSG still has the best players, but that also does not guarantee that PSG can win easily at Bayern Munich.

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Instead I think the opposite for Chelsea because of their current performance which is very bad, so even if only behind 1 goal and playing in itself does not mean it will be easy for Chelsea, even I predict Chelsea will be likely to reap defeat at home.
If you look at the performances between Chelsea and Dortmund in their respective domestic leagues with current achievements, I think Chelsea is still very doubtful about winning at home because Dortmund now has more good results in its domestic league than Chelsea, which still loses very often.

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March 02, 2023, 09:13:03 AM
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I can't wait to watch Chelsea-Borussia Dortmund and Tottenham-Milan matches. Both of them have rather weak win results, that means B. Dortmund and Tottenham will apply high pressure until they score a goal. Its sad that Chelsea misses Thiago Silva because of injury. Chelsea is nearly terrible at Premier League this year so I wonder if they can eliminate Dortmund at all. I am mainly planning to watch Tottenham-Milan match but I will also look Bayern-PSG match (hoping for surprises)
Chelsea have to hard struggle if they want to qualified especially Dortmund in the positive trend and on Bundesliga Dortmund has been change became an strong contender with Bayern Munich for race title so scored 2 goals to Dortmund is not easy task and regarding team conditions Thiago Silva is important player for Chelsea and during this season Potter has played him regularly and usually he played with Kalidou Koulibaly and if Silva absent other player such as Benoit Badiashile usually can be played but Badiashile still cannot performing well

Actually Dortmund conditions also is not so different because some of their important key players still got injured but the difference is Dortmund can managed this situation and they can able to performing stable and for this match in my opinion Dortmund probably will attempts not to concede a goal and probably they will aiming draw result

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March 02, 2023, 09:16:39 AM
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With few minutes of having Kylian Mbappe, we had one of the most active and interesting game which saw two goals cancelled by var.
Those both goals were cancelled as a result of offside, but that only showed me the impact of Kylian Mbappe.
Having both Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappe at least might do the trick even if Neymar Junior will be absent. The earlier th better they should not slow down this time, Bayern Munich did all they could to stop Parisans that night and it did worked.

That's right. Mbappe is a player that can change the game alone. He shows that in a lot of critical games. Neymar's absence might be more tolerable than him. Having both Mbappe and Messi on the field from the start is PSG's biggest weapon. Considering they need to score at least two times, I still would like to see the three of them together in such an important R16 game.

From every speculations and rumors i hear and read, one thing I know is that, there's a certain amount and atom.of truth in what they say.
I believe Neymar has no intentions to further continue with Paris St-Germans. This might be to issues with a player ( Could be Kylian ) and possibly the coach too. His absence wouldn't affect the team that bad though.

My problem with Paris St-Germans is that they hwve midfielder's but they still let Neymar and Messi do mostof the creation of chances, yes they should work as a team but thr midfielder's don't link up with the attackers.
I'm keen to see how they let Bayern Munich perish at home or how Bayern Munich knock them outta the Champions League still. ( Smiles )

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March 02, 2023, 10:44:18 AM
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Chelsea were badly beaten 2-0 by Tottenham. Now with Chelsea's next match against Dortmund, the team will want to win this match in a big way and collect some points.

Tottenham was playing like a normal day but I'm not surprised at all when I saw Tottenham could beat Chelsea in the previous game, because they are not performing good with potter and people are mostly waiting to see this coach get fired soon because, in their next match against Durtmond, they will have a day if they show the same performance they had against Tottenham.

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March 02, 2023, 10:54:15 AM
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Actually Dortmund conditions also is not so different because some of their important key players still got injured but the difference is Dortmund can managed this situation and they can able to performing stable and for this match in my opinion Dortmund probably will attempts not to concede a goal and probably they will aiming draw result

Although some of Dortmund's players are injured, their overall condition is much better than Chelsea's. The Dortmund team has played very well in each of the last matches in the Bundesliga. And the important thing is that Dortmund won the first leg against Chelsea. So only a draw in the second leg will qualify them for the quarter-finals. And so Dortmund's players will be under a bit less pressure than Chelsea's players. I guess we will see Dortmund in the quarter-finals.
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March 02, 2023, 11:36:37 AM
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Chelsea were badly beaten 2-0 by Tottenham. Now with Chelsea's next match against Dortmund, the team will want to win this match in a big way and collect some points.

Tottenham was playing like a normal day but I'm not surprised at all when I saw Tottenham could beat Chelsea in the previous game, because they are not performing good with potter and people are mostly waiting to see this coach get fired soon because, in their next match against Durtmond, they will have a day if they show the same performance they had against Tottenham.
It is indeed not surprising that Chelsea's performance has not improved against spurs in their previous domestic league matches and this week they will face a much better prepared Dortmund in the second leg of the UCL, whereas Chelsea I think they will not be able to do anything even though they host the match later.

Coach Graham Potter is the figure most responsible for Chelsea's performance so far and as long as he has been coaching there have been no results that have satisfied the Stamford Bridge public. Potter's dismissal must be done immediately so that Chelsea can achieve maximum results again, even though they will have to be eliminated in the UCL.

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March 02, 2023, 12:40:25 PM
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It is indeed not surprising that Chelsea's performance has not improved against spurs in their previous domestic league matches and this week they will face a much better prepared Dortmund in the second leg of the UCL, whereas Chelsea I think they will not be able to do anything even though they host the match later.

Coach Graham Potter is the figure most responsible for Chelsea's performance so far and as long as he has been coaching there have been no results that have satisfied the Stamford Bridge public. Potter's dismissal must be done immediately so that Chelsea can achieve maximum results again, even though they will have to be eliminated in the UCL.
I think that Potter himself wants this, but the attacking line is clearly in a crisis from which they need to be brought out. In the first match against Dortmund, Chelsea played well, so I think they still have a good chance of reaching the quarter-finals. They need to start scoring goals, they have good players, great potential but they need to get through these difficult times. I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.

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March 02, 2023, 01:09:04 PM
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I don't know how badly injured Mbappe was, but what is odd is that they waited until the 57th minute before they brought on Mbappe for Zaire-Emery. Just a couple of days later they let him play the full 90 minutes in Ligue 1. Did they think they can beat Bayern with less effort?

When Mbappe came on the whole game changed. But that is normal because the guy is unstoppable in many game situations. He also didn't make the impression as if he felt bad or still injured. If they had the possibility to bring him on right from the start then this was clearly the wrong decision to put him on the bench.

Now it is a game away and Bayern is hard to beat in their own stadium. Still the game isn't over yet and it is just one goal. That's not too hard to achieve if Mbappe is playing the full distance.
Sort of? I mean basically it was about the fact that he was barely recovering at that moment, he was fine but they didn't want to force him and injure him further, which is why they didn't play him right away. After that game he was fine and he played 90 minutes to get back to match shape, but that game was basically his return from injury, you don't play someone 90 minutes when they are returning from injury.

So, they assumed that maybe it will be fine without him playing 90 minutes, it was probably always intention to bring him in eventually unless they are winning by a large margin (or losing by large margin) and they just did it a bit earlier than they imagined because they were losing 1-0.

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March 02, 2023, 01:53:42 PM
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Tottenham was playing like a normal day but I'm not surprised at all when I saw Tottenham could beat Chelsea in the previous game, because they are not performing good with potter and people are mostly waiting to see this coach get fired soon because, in their next match against Durtmond, they will have a day if they show the same performance they had against Tottenham.
I did believe if chelsea might lose even more than two goals if ziyech would be getting red card. Chelsea's player can't control their emotions. Potter is having responsibility with the bad result achieved by chelsea. It can be said that if chelsea needs a new figure that can make team to build chemistry. Chelsea has too many players. Potter was also making a mistake by only try to agree with the decision that already taken by todd boehly to buy player blindly without even try to take care about what kind of player needed by chelsea.
In my opinion if chelsea may be going to the relegation zone  and kicked from UCL if it keeps performing like that. A bunch of people were mocking chelsea as a new mediocre club in EPL.

I would not be surprised to see that how hates chelsea fans to the potter.

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March 02, 2023, 03:30:54 PM
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Chelsea's 1.83 to win looks like madness, especially given that this team has only one win and 4 goals scored in the last 11 games  Grin
At the same time, Dortmund's winning streak reached 9 games. From a logical point of view, a 2.00 Dortmund double chance bet looks like an easy pick and the easiest money. It looks so lucrative that I can't even figure out where the trap is.

The odds continue to favor Chelsea; it may be a trap, as you've assumed, but looking at it from another angle, you'll see that Chelsea has been given that odd because of the good reputation they've maintained in the Champions League over the years. They believe it is not impossible for them to perform a miracle at this time.

I am of the opinion that historical achievements are worth nothing in current competitions. At the moment, Chelsea's game is in chaos and there is complete impotence in attack, I don't know why the bookmakers assume that it is in the game with Dortmund that everything will finally get better and there will be a breakthrough. Ironically, they may be right, but I'm more in favor of a big victory from Dortmund than even a minimal one from Chelsea.

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March 02, 2023, 03:41:40 PM
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I don't know how badly injured Mbappe was, but what is odd is that they waited until the 57th minute before they brought on Mbappe for Zaire-Emery. Just a couple of days later they let him play the full 90 minutes in Ligue 1. Did they think they can beat Bayern with less effort?
He got a few weeks out by injury and before the match, I believed they tried to do something vague around Mbappe but they will let him start the match. In fact he was not able to play a full match as media said. At least, less than one half in the match is helpful for Mbappe to come back. He continued it in Ligue 1 last weekend and played well too.

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When Mbappe came on the whole game changed. But that is normal because the guy is unstoppable in many game situations. He also didn't make the impression as if he felt bad or still injured. If they had the possibility to bring him on right from the start then this was clearly the wrong decision to put him on the bench.
His performance in that match and in Ligue 1 match last weekend give hope to PSG. He looks fully recovered from his injury and will be more dangerous to Bayern Munich defense in Germany. PSG needs him to find a good result in Munich but they also need Messi and Neymar too.

I am of the opinion that historical achievements are worth nothing in current competitions. At the moment, Chelsea's game is in chaos and there is complete impotence in attack, I don't know why the bookmakers assume that it is in the game with Dortmund that everything will finally get better and there will be a breakthrough. Ironically, they may be right, but I'm more in favor of a big victory from Dortmund than even a minimal one from Chelsea.
They probably believe in Chelsea experience in Champions League than in Dortmund. It somewhat makes sense as Chelsea are a bigger name in Champions League than Dortmund. In Champions League, sometimes you need more than excellent form to win big opponent. Chelsea have enough star players who can send Dortmund out of Champions League by their fantastic moments.

It's only unsure will Chelsea star players be able to make such moments? Stats for their attacking is very bad and no good signal that they are looking at a same direction and fight for a same target. Potter almost can not do anything with a negative sentiment and maybe lack of cooperation from Chelsea players.

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March 02, 2023, 03:47:41 PM
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Chelsea can't even beat Southampton in a home game. In the circumstances, I just can't believe in a team like them to get past Dortmund that easy.

It is always better to be realistic honestly. Chelsea are really bad at scoring goals in the Premier League and Champions League both. They are producing so many dangerous attacks mostly but finishing isn't at an acceptable level. There have been so many games lately in which they couldn't even score a single goal. Dortmund are completely opposite to them. They are having a wonderful time period these days. Their lasting positive streak has a potential to continue with the second leg here also.

Even though I have a big sympathy for Chelsea in the EPL, I still doubt them about continuing on their way in the Champions League.

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March 02, 2023, 03:47:50 PM
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I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.
it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.



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March 02, 2023, 04:25:55 PM
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I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.
it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.

To be honest I'm not sure about Chelsea at this moment because even in the Premier League Chelsea are in a difficult situation with losing streaks. With a situation that is not good like that, it will be difficult for Chelsea to be able to beat Dortmund, because Dortmund's situation is better which of course will make Dortmund's gameplay more disciplined.

With these considerations and even though Chelsea only lost by a score of 1-0 in the first leg, this still will not guarantee Chelsea can comeback easily. But if I look at the current available odds it looks like Chelsea is predicted to win, but I'm still not sure about Chelsea.

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March 02, 2023, 04:35:04 PM
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I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.
it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Haha Tottenham beat Chelsea in the previous match. But I was really disappointed to see this match today, because the opposition team is far behind Chelsea. Then the team defeated Tottenham. It's really too bad for Tottenham.

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March 02, 2023, 04:42:08 PM
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Actually Dortmund conditions also is not so different because some of their important key players still got injured but the difference is Dortmund can managed this situation and they can able to performing stable and for this match in my opinion Dortmund probably will attempts not to concede a goal and probably they will aiming draw result

Although some of Dortmund's players are injured, their overall condition is much better than Chelsea's. The Dortmund team has played very well in each of the last matches in the Bundesliga. And the important thing is that Dortmund won the first leg against Chelsea. So only a draw in the second leg will qualify them for the quarter-finals. And so Dortmund's players will be under a bit less pressure than Chelsea's players. I guess we will see Dortmund in the quarter-finals.

Therefore, like it or not, Potter must prepare his team to appear all out in the match later. moreover, in this match Chelsea will play at their own cage. Potter is well aware that winning against Dortmund is not an easy matter, especially since Chelsea's performance is currently in a bad state. on paper, Dortmund is better than the home team. even so, Chelsea will not let Dortmund simply win the battle. I can't say for sure what strategy and formation Potter will apply in the match. because, I haven't gotten enough information regarding the line-up that Potter will play. however, if Potter keeps playing Kai Harvertz. chances are, Chelsea will find it difficult to break into Dortmund's goal. so, Potter must find the right formula to face Dortmund in the match later.

On the other hand, Dortmund also has a tough match before they will have an away game at Chelsea headquarters. Dortmund have a crucial match which will be against Leipzig, at their own headquarters. not an easy match, because Leipzig is not a weak team. meaning Dortmund could suffer fatigue before the game against Chelsea in the next few days. so IMO, both teams still have a chance to overthrow each other in the match later. So, let's just see what the two coaches will do in the match.

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