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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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March 02, 2023, 11:36:37 AM
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Chelsea were badly beaten 2-0 by Tottenham. Now with Chelsea's next match against Dortmund, the team will want to win this match in a big way and collect some points.

Tottenham was playing like a normal day but I'm not surprised at all when I saw Tottenham could beat Chelsea in the previous game, because they are not performing good with potter and people are mostly waiting to see this coach get fired soon because, in their next match against Durtmond, they will have a day if they show the same performance they had against Tottenham.
It is indeed not surprising that Chelsea's performance has not improved against spurs in their previous domestic league matches and this week they will face a much better prepared Dortmund in the second leg of the UCL, whereas Chelsea I think they will not be able to do anything even though they host the match later.

Coach Graham Potter is the figure most responsible for Chelsea's performance so far and as long as he has been coaching there have been no results that have satisfied the Stamford Bridge public. Potter's dismissal must be done immediately so that Chelsea can achieve maximum results again, even though they will have to be eliminated in the UCL.

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March 02, 2023, 12:40:25 PM
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It is indeed not surprising that Chelsea's performance has not improved against spurs in their previous domestic league matches and this week they will face a much better prepared Dortmund in the second leg of the UCL, whereas Chelsea I think they will not be able to do anything even though they host the match later.

Coach Graham Potter is the figure most responsible for Chelsea's performance so far and as long as he has been coaching there have been no results that have satisfied the Stamford Bridge public. Potter's dismissal must be done immediately so that Chelsea can achieve maximum results again, even though they will have to be eliminated in the UCL.
I think that Potter himself wants this, but the attacking line is clearly in a crisis from which they need to be brought out. In the first match against Dortmund, Chelsea played well, so I think they still have a good chance of reaching the quarter-finals. They need to start scoring goals, they have good players, great potential but they need to get through these difficult times. I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.

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March 02, 2023, 01:09:04 PM
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I don't know how badly injured Mbappe was, but what is odd is that they waited until the 57th minute before they brought on Mbappe for Zaire-Emery. Just a couple of days later they let him play the full 90 minutes in Ligue 1. Did they think they can beat Bayern with less effort?

When Mbappe came on the whole game changed. But that is normal because the guy is unstoppable in many game situations. He also didn't make the impression as if he felt bad or still injured. If they had the possibility to bring him on right from the start then this was clearly the wrong decision to put him on the bench.

Now it is a game away and Bayern is hard to beat in their own stadium. Still the game isn't over yet and it is just one goal. That's not too hard to achieve if Mbappe is playing the full distance.
Sort of? I mean basically it was about the fact that he was barely recovering at that moment, he was fine but they didn't want to force him and injure him further, which is why they didn't play him right away. After that game he was fine and he played 90 minutes to get back to match shape, but that game was basically his return from injury, you don't play someone 90 minutes when they are returning from injury.

So, they assumed that maybe it will be fine without him playing 90 minutes, it was probably always intention to bring him in eventually unless they are winning by a large margin (or losing by large margin) and they just did it a bit earlier than they imagined because they were losing 1-0.

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March 02, 2023, 01:53:42 PM
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Tottenham was playing like a normal day but I'm not surprised at all when I saw Tottenham could beat Chelsea in the previous game, because they are not performing good with potter and people are mostly waiting to see this coach get fired soon because, in their next match against Durtmond, they will have a day if they show the same performance they had against Tottenham.
I did believe if chelsea might lose even more than two goals if ziyech would be getting red card. Chelsea's player can't control their emotions. Potter is having responsibility with the bad result achieved by chelsea. It can be said that if chelsea needs a new figure that can make team to build chemistry. Chelsea has too many players. Potter was also making a mistake by only try to agree with the decision that already taken by todd boehly to buy player blindly without even try to take care about what kind of player needed by chelsea.
In my opinion if chelsea may be going to the relegation zone  and kicked from UCL if it keeps performing like that. A bunch of people were mocking chelsea as a new mediocre club in EPL.

I would not be surprised to see that how hates chelsea fans to the potter.

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March 02, 2023, 03:30:54 PM
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Chelsea's 1.83 to win looks like madness, especially given that this team has only one win and 4 goals scored in the last 11 games  Grin
At the same time, Dortmund's winning streak reached 9 games. From a logical point of view, a 2.00 Dortmund double chance bet looks like an easy pick and the easiest money. It looks so lucrative that I can't even figure out where the trap is.

The odds continue to favor Chelsea; it may be a trap, as you've assumed, but looking at it from another angle, you'll see that Chelsea has been given that odd because of the good reputation they've maintained in the Champions League over the years. They believe it is not impossible for them to perform a miracle at this time.

I am of the opinion that historical achievements are worth nothing in current competitions. At the moment, Chelsea's game is in chaos and there is complete impotence in attack, I don't know why the bookmakers assume that it is in the game with Dortmund that everything will finally get better and there will be a breakthrough. Ironically, they may be right, but I'm more in favor of a big victory from Dortmund than even a minimal one from Chelsea.

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March 02, 2023, 03:41:40 PM
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I don't know how badly injured Mbappe was, but what is odd is that they waited until the 57th minute before they brought on Mbappe for Zaire-Emery. Just a couple of days later they let him play the full 90 minutes in Ligue 1. Did they think they can beat Bayern with less effort?
He got a few weeks out by injury and before the match, I believed they tried to do something vague around Mbappe but they will let him start the match. In fact he was not able to play a full match as media said. At least, less than one half in the match is helpful for Mbappe to come back. He continued it in Ligue 1 last weekend and played well too.

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When Mbappe came on the whole game changed. But that is normal because the guy is unstoppable in many game situations. He also didn't make the impression as if he felt bad or still injured. If they had the possibility to bring him on right from the start then this was clearly the wrong decision to put him on the bench.
His performance in that match and in Ligue 1 match last weekend give hope to PSG. He looks fully recovered from his injury and will be more dangerous to Bayern Munich defense in Germany. PSG needs him to find a good result in Munich but they also need Messi and Neymar too.

I am of the opinion that historical achievements are worth nothing in current competitions. At the moment, Chelsea's game is in chaos and there is complete impotence in attack, I don't know why the bookmakers assume that it is in the game with Dortmund that everything will finally get better and there will be a breakthrough. Ironically, they may be right, but I'm more in favor of a big victory from Dortmund than even a minimal one from Chelsea.
They probably believe in Chelsea experience in Champions League than in Dortmund. It somewhat makes sense as Chelsea are a bigger name in Champions League than Dortmund. In Champions League, sometimes you need more than excellent form to win big opponent. Chelsea have enough star players who can send Dortmund out of Champions League by their fantastic moments.

It's only unsure will Chelsea star players be able to make such moments? Stats for their attacking is very bad and no good signal that they are looking at a same direction and fight for a same target. Potter almost can not do anything with a negative sentiment and maybe lack of cooperation from Chelsea players.

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March 02, 2023, 03:47:41 PM
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Chelsea can't even beat Southampton in a home game. In the circumstances, I just can't believe in a team like them to get past Dortmund that easy.

It is always better to be realistic honestly. Chelsea are really bad at scoring goals in the Premier League and Champions League both. They are producing so many dangerous attacks mostly but finishing isn't at an acceptable level. There have been so many games lately in which they couldn't even score a single goal. Dortmund are completely opposite to them. They are having a wonderful time period these days. Their lasting positive streak has a potential to continue with the second leg here also.

Even though I have a big sympathy for Chelsea in the EPL, I still doubt them about continuing on their way in the Champions League.

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March 02, 2023, 03:47:50 PM
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I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.
it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.


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March 02, 2023, 04:25:55 PM
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I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.
it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.

To be honest I'm not sure about Chelsea at this moment because even in the Premier League Chelsea are in a difficult situation with losing streaks. With a situation that is not good like that, it will be difficult for Chelsea to be able to beat Dortmund, because Dortmund's situation is better which of course will make Dortmund's gameplay more disciplined.

With these considerations and even though Chelsea only lost by a score of 1-0 in the first leg, this still will not guarantee Chelsea can comeback easily. But if I look at the current available odds it looks like Chelsea is predicted to win, but I'm still not sure about Chelsea.

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March 02, 2023, 04:35:04 PM
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I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.
it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Haha Tottenham beat Chelsea in the previous match. But I was really disappointed to see this match today, because the opposition team is far behind Chelsea. Then the team defeated Tottenham. It's really too bad for Tottenham.

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March 02, 2023, 04:42:08 PM
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Actually Dortmund conditions also is not so different because some of their important key players still got injured but the difference is Dortmund can managed this situation and they can able to performing stable and for this match in my opinion Dortmund probably will attempts not to concede a goal and probably they will aiming draw result

Although some of Dortmund's players are injured, their overall condition is much better than Chelsea's. The Dortmund team has played very well in each of the last matches in the Bundesliga. And the important thing is that Dortmund won the first leg against Chelsea. So only a draw in the second leg will qualify them for the quarter-finals. And so Dortmund's players will be under a bit less pressure than Chelsea's players. I guess we will see Dortmund in the quarter-finals.

Therefore, like it or not, Potter must prepare his team to appear all out in the match later. moreover, in this match Chelsea will play at their own cage. Potter is well aware that winning against Dortmund is not an easy matter, especially since Chelsea's performance is currently in a bad state. on paper, Dortmund is better than the home team. even so, Chelsea will not let Dortmund simply win the battle. I can't say for sure what strategy and formation Potter will apply in the match. because, I haven't gotten enough information regarding the line-up that Potter will play. however, if Potter keeps playing Kai Harvertz. chances are, Chelsea will find it difficult to break into Dortmund's goal. so, Potter must find the right formula to face Dortmund in the match later.

On the other hand, Dortmund also has a tough match before they will have an away game at Chelsea headquarters. Dortmund have a crucial match which will be against Leipzig, at their own headquarters. not an easy match, because Leipzig is not a weak team. meaning Dortmund could suffer fatigue before the game against Chelsea in the next few days. so IMO, both teams still have a chance to overthrow each other in the match later. So, let's just see what the two coaches will do in the match.

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March 02, 2023, 04:42:54 PM
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Munich is indeed more favored, not only because they are already 1 goal ahead, but they will play the second leg at home, and that is an advantage for Munich to qualify for the next fake.
PSG will probably deploy all their great strength at the start of the match. including applying the pressing game from the start to catch up. Munich must anticipate this. if not or use tactics incorrectly, this could be a fatal punishment for Munich.
Having a one goal advantage and playing at home is a huge strength for Bayern Munich, so it will put PSG under pressure to reply to one goal while playing, while Bayern Munich has the opportunity to continue playing attack because there is no pressure. Bayern Munich, of course, have to be wary of PSG because Kylian Mbappe and Lionel Messi have shown good performances in the previous two matches.

Sometimes implementing a counter-attack strategy can also give good results, but if PSG don't have a good defense then implementing this strategy will also be dangerous. But yes, if I consider the squad that PSG has, then in reality PSG has quality players on every line and with that, PSG should be fine to implement any kind of gameplay.
So, basically an aggregate advantage with only one goal is not safe enough because PSG also has good ability to make a comeback.
PSG's comeback chances are much smaller than Bayern Munich's chances of qualifying for the next round. If you pay attention, Bayern Munich played quite well in the first leg despite playing at home to PSG, while in the second leg the match will take place at home to Bayern Munich, so there are big opportunities that Bayern Munich can take advantage of.

Implementing a counter-attack strategy is also less effective, because Bayern Munich has tough defenders and midfielders who are capable of intercepting. I think the only chance for PSG is to play open and have to dominate the midfield, so as to lure the Bayern Munich defense a little out of the defensive area, while Kylian Mbappe's speed can be combined with Lionel Messi's ability to hold the ball. PSG's chances of getting a draw in this match are much bigger, but to qualify for the next round is very doubtful.

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March 02, 2023, 04:53:28 PM
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I think that Potter himself wants this, but the attacking line is clearly in a crisis from which they need to be brought out. In the first match against Dortmund, Chelsea played well, so I think they still have a good chance of reaching the quarter-finals. They need to start scoring goals, they have good players, great potential but they need to get through these difficult times. I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.

The Attacking line usually functions as a result of good creative midfielders that creates chances for the front line players to have the opportunity to score goals, Kai Havez doesn't miss chances that much , give him 5 chances and out of the 5 he can convert 3 into goals, same is Mason Mount. So I do think that Chelsea has lost that midfield that did wonders during the season they lifted the champions league trophy.

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March 02, 2023, 05:09:02 PM
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it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Don't place much doubt on Chelsea in the second leg, I think it's just very risky for Dortmund. Chelsea will try their best to win in the second leg at Stamford Bridge. They have to do everything to win and whatever people say at the moment, I think Chelsea will absolutely win that match.

Consider that the probability of a home win is higher, so Dortmund shouldn't be heavy favorites despite a 1-0 win in the first leg. Stamford Bridge will be terrible, supporters will unite for a Chelsea win.

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March 02, 2023, 05:37:54 PM
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it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Don't place much doubt on Chelsea in the second leg, I think it's just very risky for Dortmund. Chelsea will try their best to win in the second leg at Stamford Bridge. They have to do everything to win and whatever people say at the moment, I think Chelsea will absolutely win that match.

Consider that the probability of a home win is higher, so Dortmund shouldn't be heavy favorites despite a 1-0 win in the first leg. Stamford Bridge will be terrible, supporters will unite for a Chelsea win.
Borussia Dortmund's advantage is because they have 1 goal which could have been the only goal scored in their 2 meetings. It's natural in my opinion that many doubt Chelsea, yes the doubts come because they themselves are having a bad performance. Indeed they did well in the first leg and I think they were just unlucky not to score. But considering Chelsea's recent performance, will they be able to play well again? I question that because they are not consistent enough from game to game.

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March 02, 2023, 06:40:39 PM
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it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Don't place much doubt on Chelsea in the second leg, I think it's just very risky for Dortmund. Chelsea will try their best to win in the second leg at Stamford Bridge. They have to do everything to win and whatever people say at the moment, I think Chelsea will absolutely win that match.

Consider that the probability of a home win is higher, so Dortmund shouldn't be heavy favorites despite a 1-0 win in the first leg. Stamford Bridge will be terrible, supporters will unite for a Chelsea win.
Borussia Dortmund's advantage is because they have 1 goal which could have been the only goal scored in their 2 meetings. It's natural in my opinion that many doubt Chelsea, yes the doubts come because they themselves are having a bad performance. Indeed they did well in the first leg and I think they were just unlucky not to score. But considering Chelsea's recent performance, will they be able to play well again? I question that because they are not consistent enough from game to game.

I agree that Borussia Dortmund got a one goal advantage over Chelsea, but that's not the only advantage they have. The actual advantage that they have against Chelsea is the poor performance that Chelsea displayed during the recent matches as well as the bad coach that they have hired. In the last five games they played, they never won a game, whereas Durmond has been performing well lately.

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March 02, 2023, 07:00:26 PM
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I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.
it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Their problem in the first leg was the lack of attacking ability to take every chance they had and I'm sure they will realize that. And in this second leg they have the chance to improve on that, it's their home game. Chelsea will have the full support of their fans, so that should provide additional motivation for them to be able to present the best results in this game.

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March 02, 2023, 07:56:36 PM
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Chelsea have to hard struggle if they want to qualified especially Dortmund in the positive trend and on Bundesliga Dortmund has been change became an strong contender with Bayern Munich for race title so scored 2 goals to Dortmund is not easy task and regarding team conditions Thiago Silva is important player for Chelsea and during this season Potter has played him regularly and usually he played with Kalidou Koulibaly and if Silva absent other player such as Benoit Badiashile usually can be played but Badiashile still cannot performing well

No he's brilliant when he's paired with Tiago silver but horrible when playing with Koulibaly and that's mainly because Koulibaly has been terrible since his introduction to Chelsea and that's why the club would be looking to sell him in the summer. Tiago silver injury is a big blow to the team and this got me wondering what the medical team are doing. I remember them benching Tiago silver, Reece James and other players for the game we lost against Southampton which means they most have been symptoms of the players not fit so why risk them playing against Tottenham when we have a game that's very important to Chelsea season coming up in just few days time.

Graham Potter should just look for a way to create some magic out of no where for we to defeat Dortmund and progress unless he'll be getting booed out of the club by the fans. The good thing though is that, we aren't that far away from a comeback to win this round. We're just one goal down and we have players capable of scoring but just don't understand why graham Potter can't get the best out of this players, it's just frustrating.

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March 02, 2023, 08:17:52 PM
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Actually Dortmund conditions also is not so different because some of their important key players still got injured but the difference is Dortmund can managed this situation and they can able to performing stable and for this match in my opinion Dortmund probably will attempts not to concede a goal and probably they will aiming draw result

Although some of Dortmund's players are injured, their overall condition is much better than Chelsea's. The Dortmund team has played very well in each of the last matches in the Bundesliga. And the important thing is that Dortmund won the first leg against Chelsea. So only a draw in the second leg will qualify them for the quarter-finals. And so Dortmund's players will be under a bit less pressure than Chelsea's players. I guess we will see Dortmund in the quarter-finals.
Only Adeyemi is doubtful about appearing in the second leg this time around but looking at Chelsea's current performance, I don't think something like this will cause too much trouble, especially with Chelsea's condition, which is very difficult to develop the current match.
Continuing in the EPL they continued to drop points today as well as they dropped points after losing to Tottenham 2-0.

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March 02, 2023, 09:02:26 PM
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I agree that Borussia Dortmund got a one goal advantage over Chelsea, but that's not the only advantage they have. The actual advantage that they have against Chelsea is the poor performance that Chelsea displayed during the recent matches as well as the bad coach that they have hired. In the last five games they played, they never won a game, whereas Durmond has been performing well lately.
The problem with the attack line that has not improved and is now losing several main pillars such as Thiago Silva in defense is a bit more of a burden for Chelsea.
At the moment, even though Chelsea are playing at home, as long as they still find it difficult to maximize their profit and target productivity, then this will not get better and Dortmund could benefit even if they play away for Leg 2.

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