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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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March 02, 2023, 04:42:54 PM
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Munich is indeed more favored, not only because they are already 1 goal ahead, but they will play the second leg at home, and that is an advantage for Munich to qualify for the next fake.
PSG will probably deploy all their great strength at the start of the match. including applying the pressing game from the start to catch up. Munich must anticipate this. if not or use tactics incorrectly, this could be a fatal punishment for Munich.
Having a one goal advantage and playing at home is a huge strength for Bayern Munich, so it will put PSG under pressure to reply to one goal while playing, while Bayern Munich has the opportunity to continue playing attack because there is no pressure. Bayern Munich, of course, have to be wary of PSG because Kylian Mbappe and Lionel Messi have shown good performances in the previous two matches.

Sometimes implementing a counter-attack strategy can also give good results, but if PSG don't have a good defense then implementing this strategy will also be dangerous. But yes, if I consider the squad that PSG has, then in reality PSG has quality players on every line and with that, PSG should be fine to implement any kind of gameplay.
So, basically an aggregate advantage with only one goal is not safe enough because PSG also has good ability to make a comeback.
PSG's comeback chances are much smaller than Bayern Munich's chances of qualifying for the next round. If you pay attention, Bayern Munich played quite well in the first leg despite playing at home to PSG, while in the second leg the match will take place at home to Bayern Munich, so there are big opportunities that Bayern Munich can take advantage of.

Implementing a counter-attack strategy is also less effective, because Bayern Munich has tough defenders and midfielders who are capable of intercepting. I think the only chance for PSG is to play open and have to dominate the midfield, so as to lure the Bayern Munich defense a little out of the defensive area, while Kylian Mbappe's speed can be combined with Lionel Messi's ability to hold the ball. PSG's chances of getting a draw in this match are much bigger, but to qualify for the next round is very doubtful.

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March 02, 2023, 04:53:28 PM
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I think that Potter himself wants this, but the attacking line is clearly in a crisis from which they need to be brought out. In the first match against Dortmund, Chelsea played well, so I think they still have a good chance of reaching the quarter-finals. They need to start scoring goals, they have good players, great potential but they need to get through these difficult times. I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.

The Attacking line usually functions as a result of good creative midfielders that creates chances for the front line players to have the opportunity to score goals, Kai Havez doesn't miss chances that much , give him 5 chances and out of the 5 he can convert 3 into goals, same is Mason Mount. So I do think that Chelsea has lost that midfield that did wonders during the season they lifted the champions league trophy.

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March 02, 2023, 05:09:02 PM
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it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Don't place much doubt on Chelsea in the second leg, I think it's just very risky for Dortmund. Chelsea will try their best to win in the second leg at Stamford Bridge. They have to do everything to win and whatever people say at the moment, I think Chelsea will absolutely win that match.

Consider that the probability of a home win is higher, so Dortmund shouldn't be heavy favorites despite a 1-0 win in the first leg. Stamford Bridge will be terrible, supporters will unite for a Chelsea win.
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March 02, 2023, 05:37:54 PM
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it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Don't place much doubt on Chelsea in the second leg, I think it's just very risky for Dortmund. Chelsea will try their best to win in the second leg at Stamford Bridge. They have to do everything to win and whatever people say at the moment, I think Chelsea will absolutely win that match.

Consider that the probability of a home win is higher, so Dortmund shouldn't be heavy favorites despite a 1-0 win in the first leg. Stamford Bridge will be terrible, supporters will unite for a Chelsea win.
Borussia Dortmund's advantage is because they have 1 goal which could have been the only goal scored in their 2 meetings. It's natural in my opinion that many doubt Chelsea, yes the doubts come because they themselves are having a bad performance. Indeed they did well in the first leg and I think they were just unlucky not to score. But considering Chelsea's recent performance, will they be able to play well again? I question that because they are not consistent enough from game to game.

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March 02, 2023, 06:40:39 PM
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it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Don't place much doubt on Chelsea in the second leg, I think it's just very risky for Dortmund. Chelsea will try their best to win in the second leg at Stamford Bridge. They have to do everything to win and whatever people say at the moment, I think Chelsea will absolutely win that match.

Consider that the probability of a home win is higher, so Dortmund shouldn't be heavy favorites despite a 1-0 win in the first leg. Stamford Bridge will be terrible, supporters will unite for a Chelsea win.
Borussia Dortmund's advantage is because they have 1 goal which could have been the only goal scored in their 2 meetings. It's natural in my opinion that many doubt Chelsea, yes the doubts come because they themselves are having a bad performance. Indeed they did well in the first leg and I think they were just unlucky not to score. But considering Chelsea's recent performance, will they be able to play well again? I question that because they are not consistent enough from game to game.

I agree that Borussia Dortmund got a one goal advantage over Chelsea, but that's not the only advantage they have. The actual advantage that they have against Chelsea is the poor performance that Chelsea displayed during the recent matches as well as the bad coach that they have hired. In the last five games they played, they never won a game, whereas Durmond has been performing well lately.

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March 02, 2023, 07:00:26 PM
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I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.
it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Their problem in the first leg was the lack of attacking ability to take every chance they had and I'm sure they will realize that. And in this second leg they have the chance to improve on that, it's their home game. Chelsea will have the full support of their fans, so that should provide additional motivation for them to be able to present the best results in this game.

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March 02, 2023, 07:56:36 PM
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Chelsea have to hard struggle if they want to qualified especially Dortmund in the positive trend and on Bundesliga Dortmund has been change became an strong contender with Bayern Munich for race title so scored 2 goals to Dortmund is not easy task and regarding team conditions Thiago Silva is important player for Chelsea and during this season Potter has played him regularly and usually he played with Kalidou Koulibaly and if Silva absent other player such as Benoit Badiashile usually can be played but Badiashile still cannot performing well

No he's brilliant when he's paired with Tiago silver but horrible when playing with Koulibaly and that's mainly because Koulibaly has been terrible since his introduction to Chelsea and that's why the club would be looking to sell him in the summer. Tiago silver injury is a big blow to the team and this got me wondering what the medical team are doing. I remember them benching Tiago silver, Reece James and other players for the game we lost against Southampton which means they most have been symptoms of the players not fit so why risk them playing against Tottenham when we have a game that's very important to Chelsea season coming up in just few days time.

Graham Potter should just look for a way to create some magic out of no where for we to defeat Dortmund and progress unless he'll be getting booed out of the club by the fans. The good thing though is that, we aren't that far away from a comeback to win this round. We're just one goal down and we have players capable of scoring but just don't understand why graham Potter can't get the best out of this players, it's just frustrating.

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March 02, 2023, 08:17:52 PM
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Actually Dortmund conditions also is not so different because some of their important key players still got injured but the difference is Dortmund can managed this situation and they can able to performing stable and for this match in my opinion Dortmund probably will attempts not to concede a goal and probably they will aiming draw result

Although some of Dortmund's players are injured, their overall condition is much better than Chelsea's. The Dortmund team has played very well in each of the last matches in the Bundesliga. And the important thing is that Dortmund won the first leg against Chelsea. So only a draw in the second leg will qualify them for the quarter-finals. And so Dortmund's players will be under a bit less pressure than Chelsea's players. I guess we will see Dortmund in the quarter-finals.
Only Adeyemi is doubtful about appearing in the second leg this time around but looking at Chelsea's current performance, I don't think something like this will cause too much trouble, especially with Chelsea's condition, which is very difficult to develop the current match.
Continuing in the EPL they continued to drop points today as well as they dropped points after losing to Tottenham 2-0.

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I agree that Borussia Dortmund got a one goal advantage over Chelsea, but that's not the only advantage they have. The actual advantage that they have against Chelsea is the poor performance that Chelsea displayed during the recent matches as well as the bad coach that they have hired. In the last five games they played, they never won a game, whereas Durmond has been performing well lately.
The problem with the attack line that has not improved and is now losing several main pillars such as Thiago Silva in defense is a bit more of a burden for Chelsea.
At the moment, even though Chelsea are playing at home, as long as they still find it difficult to maximize their profit and target productivity, then this will not get better and Dortmund could benefit even if they play away for Leg 2.

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It looks like this is the end of the road for Liverpool already. It is going to be an unforgettable loss for Liverpool before their supporters certainly. There is no way they are performing a miracle in Santiago Bernabeu from now on.

I will be expecting Ancelotti to keep the players fully focused on the second leg. They don't have any luxury such as playing complacently in this match. They just need to reassure their supporters about advancing to next round. I suppose Real Madrid wouldn't have a very tempting odd for the win after even demolishing Liverpool away. Instead I will be expecting each team to score here. I guess Liverpool would manage to score one goal at least.  Grin  After leaving a horrible season behind I wonder what will Liverpool think of doing about Klopp. Who knows maybe his end might be like Tuchel's.

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March 02, 2023, 10:19:30 PM
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It looks like this is the end of the road for Liverpool already. It is going to be an unforgettable loss for Liverpool before their supporters certainly. There is no way they are performing a miracle in Santiago Bernabeu from now on.

I will be expecting Ancelotti to keep the players fully focused on the second leg. They don't have any luxury such as playing complacently in this match. They just need to reassure their supporters about advancing to next round. I suppose Real Madrid wouldn't have a very tempting odd for the win after even demolishing Liverpool away. Instead I will be expecting each team to score here. I guess Liverpool would manage to score one goal at least.  Grin  After leaving a horrible season behind I wonder what will Liverpool think of doing about Klopp. Who knows maybe his end might be like Tuchel's.
It's hard to see the current conditions with them having to win by 3 goals or more.
But the conditions are still possible because indeed seeing the first leg in the first round they can also score 2 goals, it's just that their defense is very bad.
For Klopp it is still possible when indeed his condition is that he finishes in 4th most likely he is still there, but if he fails then indeed the story is definitely possible for him to leave.

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I think Chelsea can beat Dortmund at home.
it also depends on Potter trying to deal with pressure from Dortmund. Chelsea certainly have to think about sharpening their front line. they are 1 goal behind, and must catch up if they want to open up a chance to qualify for the next round. but it won't be easy for Chelsea.
Moreover, there is news that even one of Chelsea's strong defenders, Thiago Silva, cannot play due to an injury he got in the match against Tottenham. this is a loss for Chelsea. but anyway Potter has to deal with some tactic that could work in Chelsea's favor.
Their problem in the first leg was the lack of attacking ability to take every chance they had and I'm sure they will realize that. And in this second leg they have the chance to improve on that, it's their home game. Chelsea will have the full support of their fans, so that should provide additional motivation for them to be able to present the best results in this game.
You cannot just think that Chelsea will win Dortmund and it will just happen, you need to ask yourself what different works has Graham Potter done to the Chelsea team that will make them perform differently in the match against Dortmund. You have to also think about what Dortmund would have to do to be able to progress to the next level. It is obvious that they are the favourites because they are leading with one goal already. The last time I checked Graham Potter is under pressure and someone that is making decisions under pressure is able to make wrong decisions and get wrong results.

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Chelsea have to get lucky and hope Dortmund have 1 of their worst games of the season but I cannot see it happening. Dortmund are too good and Chelsea are the worst team along with liverpool that are still in the Champions League. I think both Liverpool and Chelsea get knocked out in the 2nd leg and Manchester City will be the only remaining English team.
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Chelsea have to get lucky and hope Dortmund have 1 of their worst games of the season but I cannot see it happening. Dortmund are too good and Chelsea are the worst team along with liverpool that are still in the Champions League. I think both Liverpool and Chelsea get knocked out in the 2nd leg and Manchester City will be the only remaining English team.
Chelsea could not even make a single goal against soton and how can chelsea make a single goal against dortmund? What is needed by chelsea is not a chemistry caused by it's still impossible to build it in a short time but as you said that chelsea needs only luck.Liverpool has no chance since it will be playing in santiago bernabeu. It will be even worst compared with the first leg. Chelsea is also losing in its agregate. I see that no chance for chelsea go wake up during the next match against dortmund in the stamford bridge.

Manchester city is also having a chance to lose against leipzig in home. Manchester city the only EPL team that in a better position. I guess that chelsea, liverpool and totemham will be going home after second leg.

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March 02, 2023, 10:58:42 PM
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Chelsea could not even make a single goal against soton and how can chelsea make a single goal against dortmund? What is needed by chelsea is not a chemistry caused by it's still impossible to build it in a short time but as you said that chelsea needs only luck.Liverpool has no chance since it will be playing in santiago bernabeu. It will be even worst compared with the first leg. Chelsea is also losing in its agregate. I see that no chance for chelsea go wake up during the next match against dortmund in the stamford bridge.

Manchester city is also having a chance to lose against leipzig in home. Manchester city the only EPL team that in a better position. I guess that chelsea, liverpool and totemham will be going home after second leg.
I am a Dortmund fan but we have had times this season when we have struggled ourselves. I am saying that for Chelsea to have any chance that members here are talking about they need Dortmund to have 1 of their bad days but Chelsea would need 1 of their best days. I am saying even if Dortmund play bad Chelsea are going to find it difficult any way. I do not think they will progress to the next stage I think they will be knocked out and Manchester City will be the only English team let in the competition.
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March 02, 2023, 11:10:09 PM
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Chelsea could not even make a single goal against soton and how can chelsea make a single goal against dortmund? What is needed by chelsea is not a chemistry caused by it's still impossible to build it in a short time but as you said that chelsea needs only luck.Liverpool has no chance since it will be playing in santiago bernabeu. It will be even worst compared with the first leg. Chelsea is also losing in its agregate. I see that no chance for chelsea go wake up during the next match against dortmund in the stamford bridge.

Manchester city is also having a chance to lose against leipzig in home. Manchester city the only EPL team that in a better position. I guess that chelsea, liverpool and totemham will be going home after second leg.
I am a Dortmund fan but we have had times this season when we have struggled ourselves. I am saying that for Chelsea to have any chance that members here are talking about they need Dortmund to have 1 of their bad days but Chelsea would need 1 of their best days. I am saying even if Dortmund play bad Chelsea are going to find it difficult any way. I do not think they will progress to the next stage I think they will be knocked out and Manchester City will be the only English team let in the competition.
The ongoing play from Chelsea gives such an overview, and they're in a very bad situation losing three matches in a row and two drawn in its last five matches. Dortmund is in good position winning all the matches. Many important players out of the team due to injury too a reason for the situation of Chelsea. It is unknown whether the players will make a comeback as the return is unknown.

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March 02, 2023, 11:29:11 PM
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Chelsea could not even make a single goal against soton and how can chelsea make a single goal against dortmund? What is needed by chelsea is not a chemistry caused by it's still impossible to build it in a short time but as you said that chelsea needs only luck.Liverpool has no chance since it will be playing in santiago bernabeu. It will be even worst compared with the first leg. Chelsea is also losing in its agregate. I see that no chance for chelsea go wake up during the next match against dortmund in the stamford bridge.

Manchester city is also having a chance to lose against leipzig in home. Manchester city the only EPL team that in a better position. I guess that chelsea, liverpool and totemham will be going home after second leg.
I am a Dortmund fan but we have had times this season when we have struggled ourselves. I am saying that for Chelsea to have any chance that members here are talking about they need Dortmund to have 1 of their bad days but Chelsea would need 1 of their best days. I am saying even if Dortmund play bad Chelsea are going to find it difficult any way. I do not think they will progress to the next stage I think they will be knocked out and Manchester City will be the only English team let in the competition.
In the first leg Chelsea created more chances than Dortmund. Just that they had all their good attempts saved by G. Kobel, Chelsea still have a high chance of turning things around to their own advantage in the second leg. Dortmund are not as good as Chelsea made them seem in the first leg the second leg might have things turn positive for Chelsea.  As for Liverpool they have lost their chance. If they couldn't secure their lead at Anfield, Santiago Bernabeu won't be a funny experience for them either.
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March 03, 2023, 02:48:26 AM
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I don't know how badly injured Mbappe was, but what is odd is that they waited until the 57th minute before they brought on Mbappe for Zaire-Emery. Just a couple of days later they let him play the full 90 minutes in Ligue 1. Did they think they can beat Bayern with less effort?

When Mbappe came on the whole game changed. But that is normal because the guy is unstoppable in many game situations. He also didn't make the impression as if he felt bad or still injured. If they had the possibility to bring him on right from the start then this was clearly the wrong decision to put him on the bench.

Now it is a game away and Bayern is hard to beat in their own stadium. Still the game isn't over yet and it is just one goal. That's not too hard to achieve if Mbappe is playing the full distance.
Sort of? I mean basically it was about the fact that he was barely recovering at that moment, he was fine but they didn't want to force him and injure him further, which is why they didn't play him right away. After that game he was fine and he played 90 minutes to get back to match shape, but that game was basically his return from injury, you don't play someone 90 minutes when they are returning from injury.

So, they assumed that maybe it will be fine without him playing 90 minutes, it was probably always intention to bring him in eventually unless they are winning by a large margin (or losing by large margin) and they just did it a bit earlier than they imagined because they were losing 1-0.

I agree with you and I get your point, but from a strategic point of view I actually wonder whether it would be better to bring on Mbappe for the first half instead of the second half. I know he was brought on in the 57th minute, but he could have probably also played the first 45. The game is a lot different because Bayern can't push forward as much as their defense is much more prone to successful high speed counter attacks due to Mbappe.

Once Bayern had their goal in the 53rd minute, they didn't feel the need anymore to push as hard. They could then put much more attention on their defense and in particular on Mbappe. If it starts from zero and they are kept busy an entire half-time defending Mbappe, the game could perhaps have gone a different way. Maybe Mbappe could have scored or caused defenders to get yellow cards and other advantages for PSG.

This is really a consideration that just came to my mind. Why bring a player from injury only when you are already 0-1 down and the opponent can then defend highly concentrated?

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March 03, 2023, 03:24:26 AM
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Chelsea have to get lucky and hope Dortmund have 1 of their worst games of the season but I cannot see it happening. Dortmund are too good and Chelsea are the worst team along with liverpool that are still in the Champions League. I think both Liverpool and Chelsea get knocked out in the 2nd leg and Manchester City will be the only remaining English team.
Chelsea still has a chance to beat Dortmund, especially when at first leg Dortmund's can only win by a narrow score, but the problem is whether Potter has finished with all the experiments on who will be his starting line-up, he doesn't even know the players who can contribute to his team every game, maybe 50% or more he always changes the main line-up is that good? been at Chelsea for months but it didn't give what was expected, Chelsea only had a 28% win rate that was far below Tuchel managers who's they sacked who had a 50% win rate. https://www.90min.com/posts/graham-potter-chelsea-record-compared-sacked-premier-league-manager

Liverpool not only have to fight but need a miracle and they have several times got miracles in the Champions League but will this time a miracle also happen so that they can qualify and actually get rid of Real Madrid who have a chance of qualifying more than 70% in my opinion. And these two Premier League teams really need a miracle.

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March 03, 2023, 03:56:51 AM
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Their problem in the first leg was the lack of attacking ability to take every chance they had and I'm sure they will realize that. And in this second leg they have the chance to improve on that, it's their home game. Chelsea will have the full support of their fans, so that should provide additional motivation for them to be able to present the best results in this game.
The problem in chelsea has not solved yet and im feeling so doubt about the performance from chelsea in the second leg. I meant i can't deny the fact that if the club can comeback anytime but it must be noted that as long as the problems already solved. There is so many bad news that came for chelsea and it's not solved yet by the club. Potter like did nothing for sure. He was always telling fans to be patience for the club to get its best performance again but how long? If chelsea will not able to make more than 1 goals and clean sheet against dortmund and chelsea will be eliminated from UCL.

It's not the thing that is wanted by the majority of chelsea supporters. Romano has been starting to talk about enrique's comeback to the professional club.

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2023/03/02/chelsea-fc-news-fabrizio-romano-on-luis-enrique/

I hope that once chelsea loses against leeds, potter will be sacked. Chelsea has no choice other than sack potter.

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