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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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March 09, 2023, 06:22:38 PM
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I have said this a lot of times before but if you are having players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe all in the same team, then it is not really a thing that is totally positive in every respect. If those 3 players are playing at the same time, then this basically means, that your team probably has the strongest offense of all teams in the world, but in the same time this also means, that you have 3 players on the pitch, that are doing absolutely nothing to support the defense. I think this is just to much and can not be compensated anymore in modern football. Also i have to say, that the squad of PSG, bedides those 3 superstars is not really that great.
Bayern are more experienced than PSG in the Champions League that is why they won them in both legs without a reply from PSG. PSG did all they could to get back into the competition but their efforts could not profit anything. Outside the three super stars PSG still has lineups of professional players just that they were not making their assists early enough especially in the second leg. PSG defense wasn't as bad as it seems just that Bayern were high opportunists and they were more conscious of their defense than PSG. PSG had good attempts but all went void
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March 09, 2023, 06:29:04 PM
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I second this. Real Madrid already have a three goal advantage, and the second leg game is at the Santiago Bernabeu, i don't see any chance in hell of Liverpool overturning that deficit, the more likely result would be Real Madrid coming out on top both home and away. Leipzig travel to the Etihad to face Manchester City, the German club had a very good first leg tie, and they'll be looking to build on that, but i think City would be too strong for them, they have to win the CL this season, as such elimination in the RO16 stage to Leipzig is unacceptable.


Is it possible for Liverpool to get the magic they got in the UCL Final in Athens against Milan?  Grin
But if we look at Liverpool current performance, it seems that it will be far from this miracle. The reason is, Madrid is more consistent while Liverpool in the domestic league are still not able to get out of trouble. All they have to think about is not to concede additional goals to Madrid, because it would be a shame if they conceded more than 2 goals at home.
Liverpool fans will always hold out for another amazing night like the one in Athens versus Milan, and it's a story as old as time. Their current state forces us to be realistic about their chances. In all likelihood, they will fail, but it's not impossible. Perhaps they would do better if they focused on finishing in the Premier League's top four, rather than putting all of their eggs in the Champions League basket.
Liverpool's domestic performance has been inconsistent, so their win against Manchester United must have been a welcome change of pace. The fans' current emotions are totally relatable. The forthcoming game versus Madrid, though, will prove to be quite difficult. Ancelotti knows what it's like to be on the receiving end of Liverpool's supremacy and isn't about to let it happen again without a fight.

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March 09, 2023, 07:12:02 PM
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Super ironic multi bet - three underdog wins plus a double chance (haha) on Benfica when even a bet on them to win with -1 handicap was accepted with odds less than 2. So far, you have guessed one result (I don’t count Benfica’s win) out of three and you may be right about Tottenham, but it seems to me that going to PSG in the next round is unlikely, although the odds for this event are very attractive and probably deserve a separate bet.
If this is a 2 match multibet, of course I bet the handicap (-1) for Benfica to win, but this is a multibet with 4 matches and of course I don't want to risk losing at the start if in normal time 90 minutes benfica actually gets a draw against Brugge, although Even with a draw, Benfica is certain to qualify for the next round. For PSG, actually I'm not sure they can qualify for the next round, but if PSG can equalize the aggregate their chances of qualifying are still open. Maybe our betting styles are different, but I always avoid taking heavy risks so that my bets can at least be all right. Cheesy

I understand your reasoning, but it seems to me that this is a different case: taking a double chance on Benfica is the heaviest risk - you will not get all the necessary profit even if the other outcomes are correct. Not getting all profit in a multi-bet is very bad, because, let's say, with your analysis, you were able to get a 10-15% advantage over the bookmaker, but due to the fact that you made a "cautious" bet on an obvious option (Benfica's victory), you lost 30% and thus your bet still turned out to be a losing one (on distanse).

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March 09, 2023, 08:15:57 PM
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It is really unbelievable that Chelsea could not gain points in the league but getting good results with good football in Champions League. This is why we love football. It always misleads us. But Dortmund couldn't advance due to the weaknesses of the Dortmund defense. Especially Niklas Sule is a very heavy defender. They were caught unprepared by Chelsea's fast attacks. He is slowly starting to recover at Chelsea. Names like Kai Havertz, Ben Chilwell, Joao Felix were in great form. Also, Dortmund seems to be closer to the Bundesliga championship after this match. Chelsea deservedly won but they don't seem ready to win ucl. After scoring the second goal, they defended very well. I think that their morale will be reflected in the league.

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March 09, 2023, 08:30:59 PM
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Is it possible for Liverpool to get the magic they got in the UCL Final in Athens against Milan?  Grin
But if we look at Liverpool current performance, it seems that it will be far from this miracle.
Lol, Grin Liverpool are playing far from their best like you rightly said, i know they put seven past Manchester United, but i think United were just so terrible that day, not that Liverpool were so exceptional. And for a team to come back from three goals down in the CL they have to be brimming with confidence, and Liverpool is not, they are quite erratic this season, you can't tell when they would have a good game or an off day. Another thing is that the second leg is in Madrid, if the game was at Anfield then we could say with the fans behind Liverpool they can give the game a chase, but with the crowd behind Real Madrid, it would be very difficult for Liverpool to turn this game around.

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March 09, 2023, 08:38:54 PM
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PSG's problem was definitely with strategies nothing more. Because they have an amazing squad in their hands. You have great attackers in your hands but can't use them well. Galtier should have been able to turn this into their advantage but the opposite scenario happened.

Messi couldn't do anything against Bayern Munich in this match. I remember only one big chance he had but Bayern Munich defense did an amazing work there by blocking his goal attempts. It is like Messi is struggling against Bayern Munich anyway wherever he goes to.  Grin  After this poor matchup I will be expecting Galtier to be sacked. I would have sacked him honestly if I was the chairman of PSG. He isn't obviously the right manager for this team.

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March 09, 2023, 08:42:55 PM
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Is it possible for Liverpool to get the magic they got in the UCL Final in Athens against Milan?  Grin
But if we look at Liverpool current performance, it seems that it will be far from this miracle.
Lol, Grin Liverpool are playing far from their best like you rightly said, i know they put seven past Manchester United, but i think United were just so terrible that day, not that Liverpool were so exceptional. And for a team to come back from three goals down in the CL they have to be brimming with confidence, and Liverpool is not, they are quite erratic this season, you can't tell when they would have a good game or an off day. Another thing is that the second leg is in Madrid, if the game was at Anfield then we could say with the fans behind Liverpool they can give the game a chase, but with the crowd behind Real Madrid, it would be very difficult for Liverpool to turn this game around.
It will be very difficult indeed, but both teams have done rather inconsistently in their domestic leagues respectively. I would go with Madrid to win on a very slim chance, even if Liverpool should play at their highest rate.
We are talking about a team that has more champions league experience recently as compared to Liverpool. I don't even need to compare the individual stats for each players, because if it comes to that, Madrid tops the chart.

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March 09, 2023, 08:43:38 PM
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Is it possible for Liverpool to get the magic they got in the UCL Final in Athens against Milan?  Grin
But if we look at Liverpool current performance, it seems that it will be far from this miracle. The reason is, Madrid is more consistent while Liverpool in the domestic league are still not able to get out of trouble. All they have to think about is not to concede additional goals to Madrid, because it would be a shame if they conceded more than 2 goals at home.
it is difficult a miracle to come to liverpool in the second leg later because the team they are facing is a consistent team in the champions league so there is little hope that liverpool will be able to score many goals at the bernabeu stadium. Liverpool is currently in a fairly good phase in the domestic league by winning big and being able to improve their ranking in the standings table.

the second leg is allegedly going to be quite heated because Liverpool must be able to catch up with goals where they have to play aggressively from the early minutes. real madrid will definitely anticipate this in the second leg later. I think Liverpool chances of advancing to the next round are quite small.

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March 09, 2023, 08:51:02 PM
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Is it possible for Liverpool to get the magic they got in the UCL Final in Athens against Milan?  Grin
But if we look at Liverpool current performance, it seems that it will be far from this miracle.
Lol, Grin Liverpool are playing far from their best like you rightly said, i know they put seven past Manchester United, but i think United were just so terrible that day, not that Liverpool were so exceptional. And for a team to come back from three goals down in the CL they have to be brimming with confidence, and Liverpool is not, they are quite erratic this season, you can't tell when they would have a good game or an off day. Another thing is that the second leg is in Madrid, if the game was at Anfield then we could say with the fans behind Liverpool they can give the game a chase, but with the crowd behind Real Madrid, it would be very difficult for Liverpool to turn this game around.
It will be very difficult indeed, but both teams have done rather inconsistently in their domestic leagues respectively. I would go with Madrid to win on a very slim chance, even if Liverpool should play at their highest rate.
We are talking about a team that has more champions league experience recently as compared to Liverpool. I don't even need to compare the individual stats for each players, because if it comes to that, Madrid tops the chart.

Liverpool will have a harder game in Santiago Bernabeu because in the last game, they started very well but Real Madrid is famous for strong comebacks even in the last minutes of the game while they could score 5 goals while Liverpool was playing at home but this time they will play in Santiago Bernabeu where Real Madrid can have a better situation this can make it hard for Liverpool to score three goals in this game.

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March 09, 2023, 09:05:39 PM
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Bayern Munich always has a clear system in their game. Even though there were slight modifications, all the players already understood how they should play, that's why their chemistry was solid, although in terms of quality, maybe this Bayern wasn't as strong as in the Ribery-Robben-Lahm-Schweinsteiger era, etc.

PSG is just spending a lot of money, but until now they still don't have a clear game plan. Not to mention their midfield is also honestly not good for a club that wants to compete for the UCL title.

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March 09, 2023, 09:15:10 PM
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Is it possible for Liverpool to get the magic they got in the UCL Final in Athens against Milan?  Grin
But if we look at Liverpool current performance, it seems that it will be far from this miracle.
Lol, Grin Liverpool are playing far from their best like you rightly said, i know they put seven past Manchester United, but i think United were just so terrible that day, not that Liverpool were so exceptional. And for a team to come back from three goals down in the CL they have to be brimming with confidence, and Liverpool is not, they are quite erratic this season, you can't tell when they would have a good game or an off day. Another thing is that the second leg is in Madrid, if the game was at Anfield then we could say with the fans behind Liverpool they can give the game a chase, but with the crowd behind Real Madrid, it would be very difficult for Liverpool to turn this game around.
It will be very difficult indeed, but both teams have done rather inconsistently in their domestic leagues respectively. I would go with Madrid to win on a very slim chance, even if Liverpool should play at their highest rate.
We are talking about a team that has more champions league experience recently as compared to Liverpool. I don't even need to compare the individual stats for each players, because if it comes to that, Madrid tops the chart.

Liverpool will have a harder game in Santiago Bernabeu because in the last game, they started very well but Real Madrid is famous for strong comebacks even in the last minutes of the game while they could score 5 goals while Liverpool was playing at home but this time they will play in Santiago Bernabeu where Real Madrid can have a better situation this can make it hard for Liverpool to score three goals in this game.
Liverpool's game at Santiago Bernabeu next week of a truth will be very hard for them but will overturning the tie and go to win it a mission impossible? No I think because this current Liverpool side can beat anybody on their day and also because we have seen them in the past do unimaginable comebacks in the UEFA Champions League. Real Madrid's main man Karim Benzema has a minor might not be fit  for the match which is also another advantage to Liverpool. Whatever might be the result of that match next week I think Liverpool is gonna put up a display that their fans are gonna be proud of.

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March 09, 2023, 09:22:09 PM
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Bayern are more experienced than PSG in the Champions League that is why they won them in both legs without a reply from PSG. PSG did all they could to get back into the competition but their efforts could not profit anything. Outside the three super stars PSG still has lineups of professional players just that they were not making their assists early enough especially in the second leg. PSG defense wasn't as bad as it seems just that Bayern were high opportunists and they were more conscious of their defense than PSG. PSG had good attempts but all went void
Apart from Bayern Munich being very experienced in the UCL League, it must be admitted that Bayern Munich is the favorite team to win the UCL this season. The game system is mature, winning mentality, tough physique and stamina, great player material, smart young coaches and healthy club management.

The 100% winning record this season is a strong illustration of Bayern.
Barcelona, Inter Milan and now PSG have been beaten Home & Away.
Losing Neuer, Pavard and Lucas Hernandez is not a problem because on the bench there are still Sane, Mane, Gnabry, Cancelo, Mazraoui, Gravenberch, Daley Blind etc.
Meanwhile, on the field there were Upamecano, De Ligt, Alphonso Davies, Goretzka, Kimmich, Muller, Coman, Musiala and Coupo Motting.

I think it is very appropriate if Bayern Munich is the favorite to win the UCL this season.
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March 09, 2023, 09:26:46 PM
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Even though my multi bet failed in the first leg but I will still do the same in the second leg this time. Now the chance can still do that I think. The condition of Bayern is still my favorite and I agree with the bookie as well as Tottenham who previously lost in the first leg.
In another match I have no doubts about Manchester City and I even made another bet that City could score more than 2 goals there.

If you want to repeat your previous bey, it's cool but I do not think that Bayern Munich will have to win Psg home and away. So it will not be easy for Bayern to win PSG again for the second time when Messi the world cup winner and Mbappe the world cup highest goal scorer is in the team.
I am also in doubt of Tottenham being able to win Ac Milan seeing that Tottenham has been struggling, even in the English Premier League. All the best although
In this match I actually fell again and again at Tottenham.
It's really not good to have to change the bet back to Manchester City, because I believe in it.
Tottenham was eliminated and so far they are the first team to leave for the EPL from the Champions League competition. I'm confident in Manchester City but of course it's more likely that Liverpool overtakes Tottenham for the competition.

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March 09, 2023, 09:34:07 PM
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Bayern Munich beat PSG 2-0 at home to advance. They also beat them 1-0 away. That's a 3-0 win in total. Frankly, if psg can't achieve success despite this squad, they should question themselves in the champions league. Despite spending so much money, they built a high level squad but in vain. It is sad for them and their management. The fans must be disappointed too.
Milan were the other team to advance. They already had the power to eliminate Tottenham. I'm happy for them.
This defeat proves that having a star player at a club does not necessarily change fate and circumstances. I think PSG should be able to improve the depth of their squad and be able to optimize players who are mediocre but can contribute optimally to the club. If they stick to the ideology of keeping star players I think they will repeat the same mistake. If we look at PSG's statistics in the last 16 of the UCL since the 2012/2013 season they have been eliminated 5 times and until now PSG have never won the UCL title.

They seem to have everything they need, I don't think it's about the stardom of the players. You can be a star and a bad player, but at PSG there is no such thing, every player is really good. It's like there's no confidence, playability between players, I don't know, it's hard to explain this defeat

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March 09, 2023, 10:41:25 PM
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It is really unbelievable that Chelsea could not gain points in the league but getting good results with good football in Champions League. This is why we love football. It always misleads us. But Dortmund couldn't advance due to the weaknesses of the Dortmund defense. Especially Niklas Sule is a very heavy defender. They were caught unprepared by Chelsea's fast attacks. He is slowly starting to recover at Chelsea. Names like Kai Havertz, Ben Chilwell, Joao Felix were in great form. Also, Dortmund seems to be closer to the Bundesliga championship after this match. Chelsea deservedly won but they don't seem ready to win ucl. After scoring the second goal, they defended very well. I think that their morale will be reflected in the league.
As Chelsea conceded the first goal in the game against Dortmund, I wasn't expecting Chelsea to mount a comeback of 2-1 victory at the end of the match.
Chelsea has consistently performed far better in the Champions League than in the Premier League over the past three seasons. However, because of their standing in the premier league table, they will not be eligible for the champions league next season. Despite that, don't assume Chelsea couldn't win the champions league just yet because anything can happen in football with time.

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March 09, 2023, 10:47:40 PM
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Even though my multi bet failed in the first leg but I will still do the same in the second leg this time. Now the chance can still do that I think. The condition of Bayern is still my favorite and I agree with the bookie as well as Tottenham who previously lost in the first leg.
In another match I have no doubts about Manchester City and I even made another bet that City could score more than 2 goals there.

If you want to repeat your previous bey, it's cool but I do not think that Bayern Munich will have to win Psg home and away. So it will not be easy for Bayern to win PSG again for the second time when Messi the world cup winner and Mbappe the world cup highest goal scorer is in the team.
I am also in doubt of Tottenham being able to win Ac Milan seeing that Tottenham has been struggling, even in the English Premier League. All the best although
In this match I actually fell again and again at Tottenham.
It's really not good to have to change the bet back to Manchester City, because I believe in it.
Tottenham was eliminated and so far they are the first team to leave for the EPL from the Champions League competition. I'm confident in Manchester City but of course it's more likely that Liverpool overtakes Tottenham for the competition.

That is why I do not like to repeat bets. When I do, the poor results seems to repeat as well. I really had doubt in two of your bets which are Bayern being able to win PSG and Tottenham being able to win Ac Milan.
While Bayern Munich was able to prove me wrong that they can  win PSG even 5 times in a row, Totenham didn't live upto expectations and were unable to score just a goal.

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March 09, 2023, 11:30:12 PM
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Bayern Munich always has a clear system in their game. Even though there were slight modifications, all the players already understood how they should play, that's why their chemistry was solid, although in terms of quality, maybe this Bayern wasn't as strong as in the Ribery-Robben-Lahm-Schweinsteiger era, etc.

PSG is just spending a lot of money, but until now they still don't have a clear game plan. Not to mention their midfield is also honestly not good for a club that wants to compete for the UCL title.
The current form in the bayern is as good as the old form when there were some golden players like kroos, robben, and ribery. The fact that if bayern is still capable enough to kill messi in the game. If you are aware about how bayern was making messi looks nothing in the match. All of messi's effort become useless. i do like how bayern was trying to prevent the ball to come for messi. Mbappe can do nothing against bayern.

PSG is nothing for bayern. PSG was just spending for nothing other than local league.PSG will always be guaranteed to play in UCL and PSG has hundreds of times to try that.

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March 09, 2023, 11:43:36 PM
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After trying to find out more and seeing the responses from all the users here. and also based on match history.
then I think for the remaining 4 matches I will favor the following teams.

- Inter Milan
- Manchester City
- Napoli
- Real Madrid

to be honest for Inter Milan maybe I think this will be the most difficult match to predict because Porto is playing at home. but I will believe in Inter Milan.


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March 09, 2023, 11:50:16 PM
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Maybe Milan aren't in a title fight in the Serie A but they are doing great in the Champions League right now. Honestly I wasn't expecting them to get past Tottenham. Because Tottenham still had a more capable lineup that would be enough to eliminate them somehow. But it was all about the strategies there. Tottenham players had big problems on playing their own game.

Milan somehow kept the score at 0-0 and finished the job. Actually they could have scored a goal as well but they wasted so many opportunities. Especially Messias' shots were horrible.

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March 10, 2023, 01:10:44 AM
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Milan somehow kept the score at 0-0 and finished the job. Actually they could have scored a goal as well but they wasted so many opportunities. Especially Messias' shots were horrible.
The thing that must be mainly evaluated by milan must be on the striker. The striker has so many chances to make goals against totenham but milan's striker was missing it. It seems like that striker needs to be replaced to make sure ac milan can perform so well. I saw how clean the team work by ac milan compared with totenham. Ac milan deserves a spot in the last 8 caused by it's even worthy compared with totenham from any lines.

I wonder what opponent that will be faced by milan in the last 8. That may be chelsea or even real madrid? That's gonna pretty interesting waiting for the draw for last 8.


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