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May 13, 2023, 06:44:46 PM
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If we are going to compare the 2026 world cup with Qatar and compare the situation of both countries, the whole point about this world cup is about having much more potential than Qatar because especially in America we have more sports facilities and they invest even more than Qatar if they need.
I think it is not about investing as much as Qatar did, because nobody really needs to invest as much as they did, it was a stupid move to give the world cup to a nation that had to invest that much to be worthy of it, makes no sense at all. It is official that it was bribery that made Qatar win it, hell Fifa CEO ended up getting fired for accepting bribe, what else proof do we even need?

But, USA or Mexico or Canada do not need to spend this much, nobody should, they just need to maybe polish up a bit, like maybe 10-20 billion, but that is about it and nothing else is needed on top of that. And that is with all the added improvements, maybe not even that much if they do not want to do anything at all, they can just stay as it is and can still do it without a doubt.
that's the advantage of the 3 countries hosting the world cup so that the cost burden for stadium infrastructure and others can be divided equally

of the three countries, mexico has the lowest economic capacity while the USA and Canada have a pretty good economy, in this case, mexico is quite profitable
Wait, how or what do you mean by the cost burden of stadium infrastructure and others divided equally?

Are the countries hosting the world cup not supposed to individually develop their stadium on their own? Since it's not like the three countries involved in hosting the game will come together to make one stadium available for the game.
Even if fifa is going to allocate monies to this countries for stadium development, it will be on individual scale, country with an already developed and well furnished stadium will get less allocation for minor fixes, while country with a stadium that need a total rehabilitation will get a higher allocation to make sure all is well put on place before the start of the tournament.

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May 13, 2023, 08:55:32 PM
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China is a totalitarian dump, and food has nothing to do with it. Read, for example, the monstrous story about Peng Shuai - this tennis player (moreover, world-famous) simply disappeared when she accused an official of sexual violence. Imagine what happens to ordinary people there. I don't think there should be any international competition in shitty countries like China.

If FIFA agrees that the internal politics of a country immediately disqualify it to be a host, then I can say it is fair to reconsider China. In those cases still I would like to see the World Cup be host in the closest location to the Chinese culture, Taiwan is highly democratic and free but the political tensions between China and Taiwan would also disqualify it, some people would not feel safe being there and I do not know if a country like Vietnam or Mongolia has the economical resources to invest them in hosting an important event like that...

As I understand it, unlike the Winter Olympics, for example, such events are beneficial for the host countries. Therefore, whether Vietnam has resources or not is not very important, since in the end it will make a profit (which means that even if there is no money at all, it is quite possible to attract investors). But holding sporting events in garbage dumps like China is a horror, it is disrespectful to athletes and tourists, at least because they can be endangered in this country.

I agree with you, no matter in China lots of money and they have a good financial situation to build even much better stadiums than what they built in Qatar even the poor can use sponsors for the world cup and they have some investors to build stadiums but the communist country like China with the rules they have should even host any great event.

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May 13, 2023, 09:51:26 PM
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I think it is not about investing as much as Qatar did, because nobody really needs to invest as much as they did, it was a stupid move to give the world cup to a nation that had to invest that much to be worthy of it, makes no sense at all. It is official that it was bribery that made Qatar win it, hell Fifa CEO ended up getting fired for accepting bribe, what else proof do we even need?

Hosting the World Cup in Qatar was proof that money is what defines the course of the biggest football event in the world.
FIFA CEO sacked? That's the least that should happen, don't believe that corruption ends there, because this was just a "deal" made because someone needed to be punished, but I'm sure there's a lot more rotten garbage in Fifa than just the CEO.

I believe the 2026 world cup will be "less corrupt" as FIFA needs to clear its name after what happened in Qatar.

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May 14, 2023, 01:06:22 AM
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~snip~
Hosting the World Cup in Qatar was proof that money is what defines the course of the biggest football event in the world.
FIFA CEO sacked? That's the least that should happen, don't believe that corruption ends there, because this was just a "deal" made because someone needed to be punished, but I'm sure there's a lot more rotten garbage in Fifa than just the CEO.

I believe the 2026 world cup will be "less corrupt" as FIFA needs to clear its name after what happened in Qatar.

At the end of the day money can buy anything, really.

The whole purpose of FIFA is to maximize their revenue through ticket sales, sponsor deals, broadcast licenses, merchandise, etc.

Decisions will be made based on dollar values, that's for sure.

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May 14, 2023, 06:45:23 AM
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~snip~
Hosting the World Cup in Qatar was proof that money is what defines the course of the biggest football event in the world.
FIFA CEO sacked? That's the least that should happen, don't believe that corruption ends there, because this was just a "deal" made because someone needed to be punished, but I'm sure there's a lot more rotten garbage in Fifa than just the CEO.

I believe the 2026 world cup will be "less corrupt" as FIFA needs to clear its name after what happened in Qatar.

At the end of the day money can buy anything, really.

The whole purpose of FIFA is to maximize their revenue through ticket sales, sponsor deals, broadcast licenses, merchandise, etc.

Decisions will be made based on dollar values, that's for sure.
I am personally still convinced that the next World Cup will not be able to host like Qatar. Because Qatar is a very rich country with a lot of money, and they have shown the whole world how to organize the World Cup in the best way, and I believe Qatar's World Cup will be the best in history.

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May 14, 2023, 08:18:50 AM
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If we are going to compare the 2026 world cup with Qatar and compare the situation of both countries, the whole point about this world cup is about having much more potential than Qatar because especially in America we have more sports facilities and they invest even more than Qatar if they need.
I think it is not about investing as much as Qatar did, because nobody really needs to invest as much as they did, it was a stupid move to give the world cup to a nation that had to invest that much to be worthy of it, makes no sense at all. It is official that it was bribery that made Qatar win it, hell Fifa CEO ended up getting fired for accepting bribe, what else proof do we even need?

But, USA or Mexico or Canada do not need to spend this much, nobody should, they just need to maybe polish up a bit, like maybe 10-20 billion, but that is about it and nothing else is needed on top of that. And that is with all the added improvements, maybe not even that much if they do not want to do anything at all, they can just stay as it is and can still do it without a doubt.
Bribery is simple enough to explain all of this, there is no need to explain it some other way. I mean when we are talking about a lot of money spent though, which means that Fifa "may" have done the right thing, if USA said they would spend 200 billion, don't you think they wouldn't accept that?

Or if England said that, or France, or South Africa, or China? I mean whichever nation promised to spend that much money and did so much to just get world cup on their nation, I am pretty sure that Fifa would have to accept it. I know it was mostly bribery, but we can't say that there were anything lacking neither, it was definitely covering every need aside from some horrible cultural bans they put on some fans, which was definitely an issue.

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May 14, 2023, 08:38:59 AM
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If we are going to compare the 2026 world cup with Qatar and compare the situation of both countries, the whole point about this world cup is about having much more potential than Qatar because especially in America we have more sports facilities and they invest even more than Qatar if they need.
I think it is not about investing as much as Qatar did, because nobody really needs to invest as much as they did, it was a stupid move to give the world cup to a nation that had to invest that much to be worthy of it, makes no sense at all. It is official that it was bribery that made Qatar win it, hell Fifa CEO ended up getting fired for accepting bribe, what else proof do we even need?

But, USA or Mexico or Canada do not need to spend this much, nobody should, they just need to maybe polish up a bit, like maybe 10-20 billion, but that is about it and nothing else is needed on top of that. And that is with all the added improvements, maybe not even that much if they do not want to do anything at all, they can just stay as it is and can still do it without a doubt.
Bribery is simple enough to explain all of this, there is no need to explain it some other way. I mean when we are talking about a lot of money spent though, which means that Fifa "may" have done the right thing, if USA said they would spend 200 billion, don't you think they wouldn't accept that?

Or if England said that, or France, or South Africa, or China? I mean whichever nation promised to spend that much money and did so much to just get world cup on their nation, I am pretty sure that Fifa would have to accept it. I know it was mostly bribery, but we can't say that there were anything lacking neither, it was definitely covering every need aside from some horrible cultural bans they put on some fans, which was definitely an issue.
Basically, FIFA should host the World Cup in countries that can afford it. Because if the next World Cup is much worse than the World Cup in Qatar, FIFA will be criticized. Therefore, they need to be selected so that the country can host the World Cup at a huge cost.

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May 14, 2023, 08:51:55 AM
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Hosting the World Cup in Qatar was proof that money is what defines the course of the biggest football event in the world.
FIFA CEO sacked? That's the least that should happen, don't believe that corruption ends there, because this was just a "deal" made because someone needed to be punished, but I'm sure there's a lot more rotten garbage in Fifa than just the CEO.

I believe the 2026 world cup will be "less corrupt" as FIFA needs to clear its name after what happened in Qatar.

At the end of the day money can buy anything, really.

The whole purpose of FIFA is to maximize their revenue through ticket sales, sponsor deals, broadcast licenses, merchandise, etc.

Decisions will be made based on dollar values, that's for sure.
I am personally still convinced that the next World Cup will not be able to host like Qatar. Because Qatar is a very rich country with a lot of money, and they have shown the whole world how to organize the World Cup in the best way, and I believe Qatar's World Cup will be the best in history.

The money they spent on the world cup was a lot but on the other hand, the world cup we saw in Qatar was not good for the people who visited this country to watch the games because of many rules in Qatar also in Qatar there were many workers they died because of the hard work for the world cup and building the stadiums.

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May 14, 2023, 09:17:16 AM
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Are the countries hosting the world cup not supposed to individually develop their stadium on their own? Since it's not like the three countries involved in hosting the game will come together to make one stadium available for the game.
Even if fifa is going to allocate monies to this countries for stadium development, it will be on individual scale, country with an already developed and well furnished stadium will get less allocation for minor fixes, while country with a stadium that need a total rehabilitation will get a higher allocation to make sure all is well put on place before the start of the tournament.

In my own opinion, The three countries should get equal share of the FIFA's funds regardless, except if they come in agreement to that to take cut. There are a lot to be done when it comes to hosting a world cup in a country, which is not only on stadium development but other sporting areas that will play part in contributing to the successful running of that world.

If larger share is given to such countries that needs total rehabilitation, then this way it could encourage more politics to come into the football governing body and potential world cup hosting countries would be reluctant to develop their stadium hence they know they gonna get bigger funds from FIFA and may go to lobby to become world cup host countries in the future in order to get that lager share of FIFFA funds to develop their stadium.

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May 14, 2023, 09:44:06 AM
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You have got a fair point about the over population and other problems tourists may suffer if they visit China in large enough numbers. Also, I don't know whether you are aware of it or not. but there seems to be some health concerns with Chinese street food, about the way they recycle the oil and things similar to that.

You can search "gutter oil" on the internet if you feel like.
Perhaps instead Chine people would prefer Japan, Taiwan or Vietnam?
It would be refreshing to see some World Cup in an oriental setting this decade. 

It will be wrong to use one-off incidents to tarnish the entire country. I have seen the video of "gutter oil scandal", but I don't know how authentic it is. Anyway, China is a huge country with a population of 1.4 billion, and isolated incidents can't be used to generalize the nation. Personally I would love to see FIFA world cup being hosted by China. If Japan and South Korea can host the tournament, then why not China? And I don't think that tourists will face any issues related to food, as a lot of US-based fast-food outlets are available at every nook and corner of China. 

China is a totalitarian dump, and food has nothing to do with it. Read, for example, the monstrous story about Peng Shuai - this tennis player (moreover, world-famous) simply disappeared when she accused an official of sexual violence. Imagine what happens to ordinary people there. I don't think there should be any international competition in shitty countries like China.

If FIFA agrees that the internal politics of a country immediately disqualify it to be a host, then I can say it is fair to reconsider China. In those cases still I would like to see the World Cup be host in the closest location to the Chinese culture, Taiwan is highly democratic and free but the political tensions between China and Taiwan would also disqualify it, some people would not feel safe being there and I do not know if a country like Vietnam or Mongolia has the economical resources to invest them in hosting an important event like that...

Sometimes because of the better hosting situation of the teams, FIFA let countries host the world cup for example we know China as a communist country, and talking about the politics of that country, that's enough for FIFA to disqualify this country, but China got a strong financial system and they can spend enough money for the world cup which can be a reason for FILFA to let them host the world cup.


Those who spend the most money usually get what they want. We saw this most recently at the World Cup hosted by Qatar. We have never witnessed the world cup in the interim period until now, but Qatar made it accepted because they spent serious money. It also banned the sale of liquor in the stadium, and FIFA couldn't say anything about it. Maybe it will host in China. Everything is possible in the future.

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May 14, 2023, 11:35:40 AM
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You have got a fair point about the over population and other problems tourists may suffer if they visit China in large enough numbers. Also, I don't know whether you are aware of it or not. but there seems to be some health concerns with Chinese street food, about the way they recycle the oil and things similar to that.

You can search "gutter oil" on the internet if you feel like.
Perhaps instead Chine people would prefer Japan, Taiwan or Vietnam?
It would be refreshing to see some World Cup in an oriental setting this decade.  

It will be wrong to use one-off incidents to tarnish the entire country. I have seen the video of "gutter oil scandal", but I don't know how authentic it is. Anyway, China is a huge country with a population of 1.4 billion, and isolated incidents can't be used to generalize the nation. Personally I would love to see FIFA world cup being hosted by China. If Japan and South Korea can host the tournament, then why not China? And I don't think that tourists will face any issues related to food, as a lot of US-based fast-food outlets are available at every nook and corner of China.  

China is a totalitarian dump, and food has nothing to do with it. Read, for example, the monstrous story about Peng Shuai - this tennis player (moreover, world-famous) simply disappeared when she accused an official of sexual violence. Imagine what happens to ordinary people there. I don't think there should be any international competition in shitty countries like China.

If FIFA agrees that the internal politics of a country immediately disqualify it to be a host, then I can say it is fair to reconsider China. In those cases still I would like to see the World Cup be host in the closest location to the Chinese culture, Taiwan is highly democratic and free but the political tensions between China and Taiwan would also disqualify it, some people would not feel safe being there and I do not know if a country like Vietnam or Mongolia has the economical resources to invest them in hosting an important event like that...

Sometimes because of the better hosting situation of the teams, FIFA let countries host the world cup for example we know China as a communist country, and talking about the politics of that country, that's enough for FIFA to disqualify this country, but China got a strong financial system and they can spend enough money for the world cup which can be a reason for FILFA to let them host the world cup.


To be fair, China has rather a capitalist market system but keeping an unique party which happens to be the communist party. I would not say they are actually communist. Also, in comparison to Qatar where people were not allowed to drink alcohol or wear rainbow colors, I think it would be easier for people, both teams and tourists, to avoid political topics while in China. They would just focus on the football, drinking and having fun, instead Chinese version of communism.

In Qatar, the host did not allow the visitors to fully enjoy the experience of the World Cup.

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May 14, 2023, 11:48:49 AM
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You have got a fair point about the over population and other problems tourists may suffer if they visit China in large enough numbers. Also, I don't know whether you are aware of it or not. but there seems to be some health concerns with Chinese street food, about the way they recycle the oil and things similar to that.

You can search "gutter oil" on the internet if you feel like.
Perhaps instead Chine people would prefer Japan, Taiwan or Vietnam?
It would be refreshing to see some World Cup in an oriental setting this decade. 

It will be wrong to use one-off incidents to tarnish the entire country. I have seen the video of "gutter oil scandal", but I don't know how authentic it is. Anyway, China is a huge country with a population of 1.4 billion, and isolated incidents can't be used to generalize the nation. Personally I would love to see FIFA world cup being hosted by China. If Japan and South Korea can host the tournament, then why not China? And I don't think that tourists will face any issues related to food, as a lot of US-based fast-food outlets are available at every nook and corner of China. 

China is a totalitarian dump, and food has nothing to do with it. Read, for example, the monstrous story about Peng Shuai - this tennis player (moreover, world-famous) simply disappeared when she accused an official of sexual violence. Imagine what happens to ordinary people there. I don't think there should be any international competition in shitty countries like China.

If FIFA agrees that the internal politics of a country immediately disqualify it to be a host, then I can say it is fair to reconsider China. In those cases still I would like to see the World Cup be host in the closest location to the Chinese culture, Taiwan is highly democratic and free but the political tensions between China and Taiwan would also disqualify it, some people would not feel safe being there and I do not know if a country like Vietnam or Mongolia has the economical resources to invest them in hosting an important event like that...

Sometimes because of the better hosting situation of the teams, FIFA let countries host the world cup for example we know China as a communist country, and talking about the politics of that country, that's enough for FIFA to disqualify this country, but China got a strong financial system and they can spend enough money for the world cup which can be a reason for FILFA to let them host the world cup.


Those who spend the most money usually get what they want. We saw this most recently at the World Cup hosted by Qatar. We have never witnessed the world cup in the interim period until now, but Qatar made it accepted because they spent serious money. It also banned the sale of liquor in the stadium, and FIFA couldn't say anything about it. Maybe it will host in China. Everything is possible in the future.

Yes, unfortunately it is true, money rules everything, including football.
FIFA has become famous in recent years due to corruption, the arrest of its presidents and suspicious actions regarding the allocation of the hosts of the world cups.
Football is becoming more and more a business and less and less a game for the masses.
World Cup in China, why not? A new big market for FIFA and a lot of money for FIFA again.  Grin
FIFA is ready for anything, even deviating from its fundamental principles and rules for the purpose of making profit.


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May 14, 2023, 12:01:02 PM
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You have got a fair point about the over population and other problems tourists may suffer if they visit China in large enough numbers. Also, I don't know whether you are aware of it or not. but there seems to be some health concerns with Chinese street food, about the way they recycle the oil and things similar to that.

You can search "gutter oil" on the internet if you feel like.
Perhaps instead Chine people would prefer Japan, Taiwan or Vietnam?
It would be refreshing to see some World Cup in an oriental setting this decade. 

It will be wrong to use one-off incidents to tarnish the entire country. I have seen the video of "gutter oil scandal", but I don't know how authentic it is. Anyway, China is a huge country with a population of 1.4 billion, and isolated incidents can't be used to generalize the nation. Personally I would love to see FIFA world cup being hosted by China. If Japan and South Korea can host the tournament, then why not China? And I don't think that tourists will face any issues related to food, as a lot of US-based fast-food outlets are available at every nook and corner of China. 

China is a totalitarian dump, and food has nothing to do with it. Read, for example, the monstrous story about Peng Shuai - this tennis player (moreover, world-famous) simply disappeared when she accused an official of sexual violence. Imagine what happens to ordinary people there. I don't think there should be any international competition in shitty countries like China.

If FIFA agrees that the internal politics of a country immediately disqualify it to be a host, then I can say it is fair to reconsider China. In those cases still I would like to see the World Cup be host in the closest location to the Chinese culture, Taiwan is highly democratic and free but the political tensions between China and Taiwan would also disqualify it, some people would not feel safe being there and I do not know if a country like Vietnam or Mongolia has the economical resources to invest them in hosting an important event like that...

Sometimes because of the better hosting situation of the teams, FIFA let countries host the world cup for example we know China as a communist country, and talking about the politics of that country, that's enough for FIFA to disqualify this country, but China got a strong financial system and they can spend enough money for the world cup which can be a reason for FILFA to let them host the world cup.


Those who spend the most money usually get what they want. We saw this most recently at the World Cup hosted by Qatar. We have never witnessed the world cup in the interim period until now, but Qatar made it accepted because they spent serious money. It also banned the sale of liquor in the stadium, and FIFA couldn't say anything about it. Maybe it will host in China. Everything is possible in the future.

Yes, unfortunately it is true, money rules everything, including football.
FIFA has become famous in recent years due to corruption, the arrest of its presidents and suspicious actions regarding the allocation of the hosts of the world cups.
Football is becoming more and more a business and less and less a game for the masses.
World Cup in China, why not? A new big market for FIFA and a lot of money for FIFA again.  Grin
FIFA is ready for anything, even deviating from its fundamental principles and rules for the purpose of making profit.


It is problematic because in theory, that would not allow less developed or less rich countries to host the event in the future, regardless or the amount or fans or potential for growth this sport has in a specific country.

Let us be honest, FIFA was always about business and profit, at least they used to respect the process of selection for hosts untill they realized they can pocket mountains of money out of that process alone.

It was a disgrace how FIFA responded when asked about the alcohol and LGBTQ problems in Qatar after some days into the World Cup, anyone could tell that they were bought by the Elite there and did not want to upset their "donators".  Roll Eyes

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May 14, 2023, 12:49:17 PM
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You have got a fair point about the over population and other problems tourists may suffer if they visit China in large enough numbers. Also, I don't know whether you are aware of it or not. but there seems to be some health concerns with Chinese street food, about the way they recycle the oil and things similar to that.

You can search "gutter oil" on the internet if you feel like.
Perhaps instead Chine people would prefer Japan, Taiwan or Vietnam?
It would be refreshing to see some World Cup in an oriental setting this decade. 

It will be wrong to use one-off incidents to tarnish the entire country. I have seen the video of "gutter oil scandal", but I don't know how authentic it is. Anyway, China is a huge country with a population of 1.4 billion, and isolated incidents can't be used to generalize the nation. Personally I would love to see FIFA world cup being hosted by China. If Japan and South Korea can host the tournament, then why not China? And I don't think that tourists will face any issues related to food, as a lot of US-based fast-food outlets are available at every nook and corner of China. 

China is a totalitarian dump, and food has nothing to do with it. Read, for example, the monstrous story about Peng Shuai - this tennis player (moreover, world-famous) simply disappeared when she accused an official of sexual violence. Imagine what happens to ordinary people there. I don't think there should be any international competition in shitty countries like China.

If FIFA agrees that the internal politics of a country immediately disqualify it to be a host, then I can say it is fair to reconsider China. In those cases still I would like to see the World Cup be host in the closest location to the Chinese culture, Taiwan is highly democratic and free but the political tensions between China and Taiwan would also disqualify it, some people would not feel safe being there and I do not know if a country like Vietnam or Mongolia has the economical resources to invest them in hosting an important event like that...

Sometimes because of the better hosting situation of the teams, FIFA let countries host the world cup for example we know China as a communist country, and talking about the politics of that country, that's enough for FIFA to disqualify this country, but China got a strong financial system and they can spend enough money for the world cup which can be a reason for FILFA to let them host the world cup.


Those who spend the most money usually get what they want. We saw this most recently at the World Cup hosted by Qatar. We have never witnessed the world cup in the interim period until now, but Qatar made it accepted because they spent serious money. It also banned the sale of liquor in the stadium, and FIFA couldn't say anything about it. Maybe it will host in China. Everything is possible in the future.

Yes, unfortunately it is true, money rules everything, including football.
FIFA has become famous in recent years due to corruption, the arrest of its presidents and suspicious actions regarding the allocation of the hosts of the world cups.
Football is becoming more and more a business and less and less a game for the masses.
World Cup in China, why not? A new big market for FIFA and a lot of money for FIFA again.  Grin
FIFA is ready for anything, even deviating from its fundamental principles and rules for the purpose of making profit.


It is problematic because in theory, that would not allow less developed or less rich countries to host the event in the future, regardless or the amount or fans or potential for growth this sport has in a specific country.

Let us be honest, FIFA was always about business and profit, at least they used to respect the process of selection for hosts untill they realized they can pocket mountains of money out of that process alone.

It was a disgrace how FIFA responded when asked about the alcohol and LGBTQ problems in Qatar after some days into the World Cup, anyone could tell that they were bought by the Elite there and did not want to upset their "donators".  Roll Eyes
As Qatar is a Muslim country, the country imposed some strict rules on the World Cup. But since the next World Cup will be held in a different country, no strict rules are expected. By doing this, football fans can enjoy the game with great freedom.

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May 14, 2023, 12:49:52 PM
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Hosting the World Cup in Qatar was proof that money is what defines the course of the biggest football event in the world.
FIFA CEO sacked? That's the least that should happen, don't believe that corruption ends there, because this was just a "deal" made because someone needed to be punished, but I'm sure there's a lot more rotten garbage in Fifa than just the CEO.

I believe the 2026 world cup will be "less corrupt" as FIFA needs to clear its name after what happened in Qatar.

At the end of the day money can buy anything, really.

The whole purpose of FIFA is to maximize their revenue through ticket sales, sponsor deals, broadcast licenses, merchandise, etc.

Decisions will be made based on dollar values, that's for sure.
I am personally still convinced that the next World Cup will not be able to host like Qatar. Because Qatar is a very rich country with a lot of money, and they have shown the whole world how to organize the World Cup in the best way, and I believe Qatar's World Cup will be the best in history.

The money they spent on the world cup was a lot but on the other hand, the world cup we saw in Qatar was not good for the people who visited this country to watch the games because of many rules in Qatar also in Qatar there were many workers they died because of the hard work for the world cup and building the stadiums.
That's true the amount of effort Qataris put in the last world cup way was too much and no country can do something like that including America, Canada.  Qatar planned for everything the stadiums ,environment, fans , teams and their settlement in that time there was a celebration going on in Qatar at that time so that's the fact.
We have to wait for 2026 to see how 3 countries will think of these things.

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May 14, 2023, 05:12:11 PM
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I think it is not about investing as much as Qatar did, because nobody really needs to invest as much as they did, it was a stupid move to give the world cup to a nation that had to invest that much to be worthy of it, makes no sense at all. It is official that it was bribery that made Qatar win it, hell Fifa CEO ended up getting fired for accepting bribe, what else proof do we even need?

Hosting the World Cup in Qatar was proof that money is what defines the course of the biggest football event in the world.
FIFA CEO sacked? That's the least that should happen, don't believe that corruption ends there, because this was just a "deal" made because someone needed to be punished, but I'm sure there's a lot more rotten garbage in Fifa than just the CEO.

I believe the 2026 world cup will be "less corrupt" as FIFA needs to clear its name after what happened in Qatar.

We will likely see about that after the next FIFA world cup but I slightly agree with you because after what happened, they will certainly have a low profile for a moment so that they will not be in the middle of the heat but they cannot deny that they were being biased at that point because after all this is an entertainment business. What happened recently about CEO getting sacked was just their step to get their hands clean and I seriously agree that there's a much bigger picture than that.

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May 14, 2023, 06:02:03 PM
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Hosting the World Cup in Qatar was proof that money is what defines the course of the biggest football event in the world.
FIFA CEO sacked? That's the least that should happen, don't believe that corruption ends there, because this was just a "deal" made because someone needed to be punished, but I'm sure there's a lot more rotten garbage in Fifa than just the CEO.

I believe the 2026 world cup will be "less corrupt" as FIFA needs to clear its name after what happened in Qatar.

At the end of the day money can buy anything, really.

The whole purpose of FIFA is to maximize their revenue through ticket sales, sponsor deals, broadcast licenses, merchandise, etc.

Decisions will be made based on dollar values, that's for sure.
I am personally still convinced that the next World Cup will not be able to host like Qatar. Because Qatar is a very rich country with a lot of money, and they have shown the whole world how to organize the World Cup in the best way, and I believe Qatar's World Cup will be the best in history.

The money they spent on the world cup was a lot but on the other hand, the world cup we saw in Qatar was not good for the people who visited this country to watch the games because of many rules in Qatar also in Qatar there were many workers they died because of the hard work for the world cup and building the stadiums.
That's true the amount of effort Qataris put in the last world cup way was too much and no country can do something like that including America, Canada.  Qatar planned for everything the stadiums ,environment, fans , teams and their settlement in that time there was a celebration going on in Qatar at that time so that's the fact.
We have to wait for 2026 to see how 3 countries will think of these things.

I think the three countries hosting the world cup can be a better experience for 2026 but since the main host for the world cup is in America and most of the world cup games are in America I guess because of the potential they have in America, we are going to have a better experience in 2026 world cup.

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May 14, 2023, 06:14:31 PM
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I think it is not about investing as much as Qatar did, because nobody really needs to invest as much as they did, it was a stupid move to give the world cup to a nation that had to invest that much to be worthy of it, makes no sense at all. It is official that it was bribery that made Qatar win it, hell Fifa CEO ended up getting fired for accepting bribe, what else proof do we even need?

Hosting the World Cup in Qatar was proof that money is what defines the course of the biggest football event in the world.
FIFA CEO sacked? That's the least that should happen, don't believe that corruption ends there, because this was just a "deal" made because someone needed to be punished, but I'm sure there's a lot more rotten garbage in Fifa than just the CEO.

I believe the 2026 world cup will be "less corrupt" as FIFA needs to clear its name after what happened in Qatar.

We will likely see about that after the next FIFA world cup but I slightly agree with you because after what happened, they will certainly have a low profile for a moment so that they will not be in the middle of the heat but they cannot deny that they were being biased at that point because after all this is an entertainment business. What happened recently about CEO getting sacked was just their step to get their hands clean and I seriously agree that there's a much bigger picture than that.
I think we shouldn't close our eyes to that, that in every aspect there must be unscrupulous individuals who commit bribery and corruption, that's commonplace. And I agree that this dismissal is their way to clean their hands from rotten garbage. But we don't know how many people are still hanging around in FIFA.
Not only that, but when they always talk about keeping politics away from football it is also just a slogan, because I see that politics is still very thick, so this is a kind of slogan that has no effect whatsoever.

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May 14, 2023, 07:37:27 PM
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So far away, but perhaps also close to the next World Cup. I have seen before that people think that it can become a problem from a logistical point of view and I agree with that. Then Qatar was an ideal environment. But it was a very special atmosphere in Qatar. We cannot say too much about the qualifications yet because it is difficult to estimate, the draws for the qualification groups have yet to be held. Let's first watch the European Championship in 2024, which will start in less than a year. America will be especially happy about this because it will then be placed directly. And Canada too, of course, because they would have had a very difficult time qualifying for the 2026 final tournament on their own.

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May 14, 2023, 07:55:18 PM
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So far away, but perhaps also close to the next World Cup. I have seen before that people think that it can become a problem from a logistical point of view and I agree with that.
I honestly can't see any problem with logistics though, the Fifa world cup tournament is scheduled for 2026, we are still in 2023, which means, we still have over or about 3 years to go, that's an ample time there for the entire preparation of the tournament, if FIFA and the hosting body start making all the preparations from now, before 2026 arrives, I believe 95 percent of every thing relating to logistics should already be sorted.

Logistics can only become a very big problem is fifa and the hosting body wait till the last minute when the tournament is about to start to start putting things in the place they should be, but I see FIFA as a very professional body, they know the right things to be done, and at what time they should be done to avoid unnecessary delays and other hiccups.

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