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[mv1986]

Hi guys,

a quick question as the decision between the Roma - Inter game and the Milan - Lazio game was so close regarding the "action" points. Which source do you use for the yellow/red cards? I was wondering whether all statistics include the "All cards will count, meaning bench players/coaches as well." part of your question. I have never really paid attention to that but now it seems the website that I mostly use actually does not list cards that are given to bench players/coaches.

Best of luck to everyone and it seems it is going to be a close ending between me and Jinetics111. Esports was again my weak spot now.

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[famososMuertos]

Thank you for your commentaries (all this season), not today:#1548,#1550  , CRO2 always open to collaboration and suggestions. We will be trying to contribute before and not after the events occur.

Hi guys,
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Hi,
That has been discussed before, the font that is being used, because depending on the font there are sometimes differences. I did not find the post in question, but surely someone will answer that.

[Jinetics1111]

Hi guys,

a quick question as the decision between the Roma - Inter game and the Milan - Lazio game was so close regarding the "action" points. Which source do you use for the yellow/red cards? I was wondering whether all statistics include the "All cards will count, meaning bench players/coaches as well." part of your question. I have never really paid attention to that but now it seems the website that I mostly use actually does not list cards that are given to bench players/coaches.

Best of luck to everyone and it seems it is going to be a close ending between me and Jinetics111. Esports was again my weak spot now.

Haha, gonna be down to the wire, Was hoping for at least one more card or goal in the Inter game such a sweat induced match, gonna be close in the end. As Miami just won as expected, well we see how it plays out bro 

[mv1986]

Hi guys,

a quick question as the decision between the Roma - Inter game and the Milan - Lazio game was so close regarding the "action" points. Which source do you use for the yellow/red cards? I was wondering whether all statistics include the "All cards will count, meaning bench players/coaches as well." part of your question. I have never really paid attention to that but now it seems the website that I mostly use actually does not list cards that are given to bench players/coaches.

Best of luck to everyone and it seems it is going to be a close ending between me and Jinetics111. Esports was again my weak spot now.

Haha, gonna be down to the wire, Was hoping for at least one more card or goal in the Inter game such a sweat induced match, gonna be close in the end. As Miami just won as expected, well we see how it plays out bro 

Yes! I was following the final minutes of the game and one issue was that I didn't see the whole game and therefore couldn't know whether there was a card to either the coaches or players on the bench. But the other issue was that we all know how these games end - the goalkeeper does some time wasting in the 95th minute and receives a yellow card! That would have been your point then.

Looking forward to it!

[Jinetics1111]

Hi guys,

a quick question as the decision between the Roma - Inter game and the Milan - Lazio game was so close regarding the "action" points. Which source do you use for the yellow/red cards? I was wondering whether all statistics include the "All cards will count, meaning bench players/coaches as well." part of your question. I have never really paid attention to that but now it seems the website that I mostly use actually does not list cards that are given to bench players/coaches.

Best of luck to everyone and it seems it is going to be a close ending between me and Jinetics111. Esports was again my weak spot now.

Haha, gonna be down to the wire, Was hoping for at least one more card or goal in the Inter game such a sweat induced match, gonna be close in the end. As Miami just won as expected, well we see how it plays out bro 

Yes! I was following the final minutes of the game and one issue was that I didn't see the whole game and therefore couldn't know whether there was a card to either the coaches or players on the bench. But the other issue was that we all know how these games end - the goalkeeper does some time wasting in the 95th minute and receives a yellow card! That would have been your point then.

Looking forward to it!

Haha, yes and I would've loved the extra point bro, but all in all its been a great round so far, great league overall, looking forward for more.

[Slissy]

Its only me and Pulsar77 that have Bayern,Dormund,Leipzig, Union berlin..
That is an important point for me.

@CLS63 i dont think it will be over 13.5 shot on target in Newcastle-Arsenal match. I did answer that question to fast.. If its 10 then i happy😂.. It has to be a goal party for me to have a chance there 😂
The Miami match will also be exciting tonight. i still think knicks will win even if they are not favorites... So this will be an important game for both of us😁😂

I was thinking that I was the advantageous one in the Bundesliga question. However Union Berlin's loss ruined all my plan. I don't agree with you on the Miami topic. I think they will win if Butler plays healthily.

You were absolutely right! Miami had complete control of the game from start to finish.

Now it's just Newcastle-Arsenal. Here I would say you have the advantage. if I could change the answer, I would also have taken under 9.5😂 I will be very happy if there are 10-11 shots on target.
But it will be an exciting match 😀

[slackovic]

Lol I can't believe slackovic won the tennis question by putting almost same answer as all of us but that's his luck I wish I get a round where my opponent is late or doesn't show though, just not the next round since it's already relegation for me hehe

And don't worry mate Harkorede, you can go ahead and win this without any feeling of guilt. I made my own destiny many times in this league, so it is fully my doing, not you or anyone

Man, I will never understand those head2head questions. Did I get a point because my opponent sent his answers too late? I was wondering how come that my answer is green and others that gave the same answer is yellow. I guess I'm just lucky

I don't know if I'm early to say that I won this round since it's currently 4-0 for me, but if I win it I think that my first spot in the division 2 is secured. I hope I didn't just jinx myself with saying this haha

[slaman29]

Well done Harkorede! It's all you I tried to go for underdogs but it's all over

Man, I will never understand those head2head questions. Did I get a point because my opponent sent his answers too late? I was wondering how come that my answer is green and others that gave the same answer is yellow. I guess I'm just lucky

I don't know if I'm early to say that I won this round since it's currently 4-0 for me, but if I win it I think that my first spot in the division 2 is secured. I hope I didn't just jinx myself with saying this haha

H2H just means your opponent answer is the only thing that matters. But to me yes you should have been a draw so the only thing here you're right I think FM sent answers late.

I have not benefited yet from late answers but I guess Div1 had nobody ever giving late?

Well done on your first spot, you will replace me in Div 1;)

I understand you mate but the 2nd division should be a very competitive one for the next season too, imo, GL!

Thanks my mate, and I don't even mind competing in Div 3 or whatever, it was actually an honor for me to be selected for Div1 this opening season, and an honor to give everyone points each round lol.

I'm like Chelsea this season, giving everyone free points :p

On bright side, I don't have to pay fee next season hehe

[Igebotz]

Lol I can't believe slackovic won the tennis question by putting almost same answer as all of us but that's his luck I wish I get a round where my opponent is late or doesn't show though, just not the next round since it's already relegation for me hehe

And don't worry mate Harkorede, you can go ahead and win this without any feeling of guilt. I made my own destiny many times in this league, so it is fully my doing, not you or anyone

Man, I will never understand those head2head questions. Did I get a point because my opponent sent his answers too late? I was wondering how come that my answer is green and others that gave the same answer is yellow. I guess I'm just lucky

I don't know if I'm early to say that I won this round since it's currently 4-0 for me, but if I win it I think that my first spot in the division 2 is secured. I hope I didn't just jinx myself with saying this haha

It's green because your opponent didn't provide a valid answer or it was submitted late, therefore you automatically get the point. I hope that makes sense.

congratulations- I'm currently tied with my opponents, and things aren't going well.

[mv1986]

It's green because your opponent didn't provide a valid answer or it was submitted late, therefore you automatically get the point. I hope that makes sense.

congratulations- I'm currently tied with my opponents, and things aren't going well.

It is sad to see that all those who won the tennis question only did so because they benefitted from someone refusing to submit an answer despite not being late. I get that in @jayce case it wouldn't have mattered as he was late anyway.

Don't get me wrong here, but I would really like to understand why someone refuses to answer questions when they are totally fine in terms of time. "I have no idea about the sport" really is no excuse because I, yes me personally, I have zero idea about DOTA2, never played it, never followed it, don't know a single player from the entire DOTA2 scene and never read any articles out of interest, but the least you can do to keep the competition fair is to open up a gambling website and pick the favorites.

Now someone could say "I still didn't feel like answering the DOTA question because too complex". Alright, but then seriously, how is someone not able to fill out the tennis question? How is that possible? I mean tennis is not nice sport and seriously, putting down Alcaraz should be possible for everyone. Even if you get the seeds wrong and didn't check the brackets, it would still cost you around 20 seconds to check the outrights for the ATP Madrid and nobody would have gotten a point because everyone would have put down Alcaraz.

I see this is as a problem specifically for the H2H questions. It does have influence on the standings in the table and it often really makes zero sense when almost an entire column is filled with the same answers, but less than a handful of people score because some refuse to answer questions even when they submitted way in time. I don't know, but refusing to fill out questions should perhaps come at a penalty. I understand when someone comes late one time in a season because it can happen and so did it to me one time in round 5, but other than that penalties should become a thing.

Maybe for both, that those who come late or refuse to answer questions get a penalty in the final table, not in the head to head. That way everyone would benefit in the same way. We could also discuss a "one joker per season" solution for coming late, but I think a penalty should apply.

When it happened to me in round 5 I did have personal reasons and I certainly still wanted to win the competition as you could see and I did lose it because one correct answer wasn't counted as I was late. But not filling in two H2H questions at all is like giving the other person 3 free points on purpose.

[slackovic]

It's green because your opponent didn't provide a valid answer or it was submitted late, therefore you automatically get the point. I hope that makes sense.

congratulations- I'm currently tied with my opponents, and things aren't going well.

Yeah, I get that. But does it count for the freebet points? I hope not because that wouldn't be fair to the others. Oh, I see that I have another point for the NBA question. I guess that I can marke this week as a definitive win because I'm 5-0 against famososMuetros.

[Trofo]

It's green because your opponent didn't provide a valid answer or it was submitted late, therefore you automatically get the point. I hope that makes sense.

congratulations- I'm currently tied with my opponents, and things aren't going well.

Yeah, I get that. But does it count for the freebet points? I hope not because that wouldn't be fair to the others. Oh, I see that I have another point for the NBA question. I guess that I can marke this week as a definitive win because I'm 5-0 against famososMuetros.

Cmonn man, cryptofrka wrote about H2H question when free bets are concerned at least 5 times now. You have much better explanation from him in several spots in this thread but here is in short:
H2H questions are graded differently for duels and free bet. For duel you just need to be better than your opponent. For free bet you have to be better than your whole division. Your opponent not posting answers means absolutely nothing for free bets.

[Igebotz]

It's green because your opponent didn't provide a valid answer or it was submitted late, therefore you automatically get the point. I hope that makes sense.

congratulations- I'm currently tied with my opponents, and things aren't going well.

Yeah, I get that. But does it count for the freebet points? I hope not because that wouldn't be fair to the others. Oh, I see that I have another point for the NBA question. I guess that I can marke this week as a definitive win because I'm 5-0 against famososMuetros.

Cmonn man, cryptofrka wrote about H2H question when free bets are concerned at least 5 times now. You have much better explanation from him in several spots in this thread but here is in short:
H2H questions are graded differently for duels and free bet. For duel you just need to be better than your opponent. For free bet you have to be better than your whole division. Your opponent not posting answers means absolutely nothing for free bets.

Looks like cryptofrka will never stop explaining the local rules  so i didn't make sense at last.

[Ulven]

I was very close to achieving victory in this round against my opponent @ralle14. Due to the loss of Union Berlin in the German league, I lost a part of the competition, but there is still hope to achieve a tie because my answer to the question about the Miami track is different from my opponent's answer.

[CLS63]

As the remaining answers won't change the result I think I got a draw with Slissy. My championship chance has ended unfortunately with this draw. In a round that we didn't make very good predictions, a draw isn't a bad result for both of us. If I lose points to Igebotz in the final round I will lose the 3rd place.


I wish good luck to Slissy and jeremypwr in the championship race on the final week. Both of them deserve to be the champion to the end...

[cryptofrka]

It is sad to see that all those who won the tennis question only did so because they benefitted from someone refusing to submit an answer despite not being late. I get that in @jayce case it wouldn't have mattered as he was late anyway.

Don't get me wrong here, but I would really like to understand why someone refuses to answer questions when they are totally fine in terms of time. "I have no idea about the sport" really is no excuse because I, yes me personally, I have zero idea about DOTA2, never played it, never followed it, don't know a single player from the entire DOTA2 scene and never read any articles out of interest, but the least you can do to keep the competition fair is to open up a gambling website and pick the favorites.

Now someone could say "I still didn't feel like answering the DOTA question because too complex". Alright, but then seriously, how is someone not able to fill out the tennis question? How is that possible? I mean tennis is not nice sport and seriously, putting down Alcaraz should be possible for everyone. Even if you get the seeds wrong and didn't check the brackets, it would still cost you around 20 seconds to check the outrights for the ATP Madrid and nobody would have gotten a point because everyone would have put down Alcaraz.

I see this is as a problem specifically for the H2H questions. It does have influence on the standings in the table and it often really makes zero sense when almost an entire column is filled with the same answers, but less than a handful of people score because some refuse to answer questions even when they submitted way in time. I don't know, but refusing to fill out questions should perhaps come at a penalty. I understand when someone comes late one time in a season because it can happen and so did it to me one time in round 5, but other than that penalties should become a thing.

Maybe for both, that those who come late or refuse to answer questions get a penalty in the final table, not in the head to head. That way everyone would benefit in the same way. We could also discuss a "one joker per season" solution for coming late, but I think a penalty should apply.

When it happened to me in round 5 I did have personal reasons and I certainly still wanted to win the competition as you could see and I did lose it because one correct answer wasn't counted as I was late. But not filling in two H2H questions at all is like giving the other person 3 free points on purpose.

What you are saying makes sense, but we won't be introducing such penalties. We think that the competition should be open for the casuals as well, and they will fall into the lower leagues very soon with this approach, or stay in them.
It's a shame when someone gets a free point against a player like that, but we really don't want to be too strict with it.

Considering that it's the first season, we're actually quite surprised that almost all of you answer all the questions on time.

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Cup semifinal questions are here!

The deadline is May 9th, 17:00 GMT.
Semifinals/finals will have 10 questions each.

Semifinal pairs are:

Match 29 : Pulsar77 vs vd309
Match 30 : mv1986 vs mitchr4

You can all play, but there are no freebet rewards in the cup so take a break if you need it.
We are working with SB to try and offer you betting markets on the semifinal games so if that interests you follow the thread a bit more closely in the next few days.

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[CLS63]

Cup semifinal questions are here!

Weren't the league matches going to be played this week? It is even much better for me if the calendar has changed. After consecutive point losses giving a break for some time will be good for me absolutely. Good luck to the 4 people challenging in the cup.

8-14.5. - league
15-21.5. - cup (SF, Final)

[mv1986]

What you are saying makes sense, but we won't be introducing such penalties. We think that the competition should be open for the casuals as well, and they will fall into the lower leagues very soon with this approach, or stay in them.
It's a shame when someone gets a free point against a player like that, but we really don't want to be too strict with it.

Considering that it's the first season, we're actually quite surprised that almost all of you answer all the questions on time.

But I think that casuals are as well interested in a certain level of competitive integrity. As soon as you take skin out of the game for those who can harm the competition even deliberately (like simply not submitting an answer in H2H), you take away some of the least requirement for integrity, which is "if you submit, submit all answers". I think that integrity would actually attract more people than shy them away. I like the competition here and since it is a long-term thing, I think it would be bad if someone gets relegated or not promoted because someone else decided to give away 3 points to a potential direct competitor. But your competition, your rules.

[cryptofrka]

But I think that casuals are as well interested in a certain level of competitive integrity. As soon as you take skin out of the game for those who can harm the competition even deliberately (like simply not submitting an answer in H2H), you take away some of the least requirement for integrity, which is "if you submit, submit all answers". I think that integrity would actually attract more people than shy them away. I like the competition here and since it is a long-term thing, I think it would be bad if someone gets relegated or not promoted because someone else decided to give away 3 points to a potential direct competitor. But your competition, your rules.

We fully agree with this, yes. We'd like to once again ask all players to be fair to the competition and submit all answers, because skipping some of them directly harms some people in the league and helps others.
There's actually no easy fix for this - because even if we do punish the player who does not submit the damage is still done - it does not change the outcome for the affected party.

Still - we'll take what you said into serious consideration because we understand it's a crappy feeling when a person close to you on the table is getting points for free.

[Jinetics1111]

Wowsers Verstappen kicking arse today like Arsenal kicked Newcastle's , I didnt know how to answer that question, cheers to who did.