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April 23, 2023, 09:57:46 PM
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There might be no risk of losing here since there’s no money involve, I still consider this as gambling as you play with the casinos games, because for me it looks like you are just learning how the site works and you will try it with real money sooner or later.
I also think it's gambling. It's being done inside a casino and even without the need to stake money, still that may be taken as a gambling because you might be able to win.

This could be just a marketing strategy, which played on your emotion and making you feel the excitement of gambling, better to be careful with this.
Right, when you've lost to the free they've given. That won't suffice you and you may want to take another bet and by that time, you need to use your own money and deposit rightafter that lost.

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April 23, 2023, 11:58:19 PM
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Have never heard of this site and it says 'Access denied' just like some of the posters above mentioned when I tried accessing it. There has to be a catch op since they aren't some sort of charity giving away free money.

Coming to your query, I wouldn't call it gambling since you aren't risking anything in order to win something. Such offers are usually scams though.
Maybe it can be said as a giveaway, because here we don't need to risk money, or it can also be called a lucky contest.
You are right, if there is such an offer, it is closer to a scam. The reason is, logically it is impossible for someone to continue to give gifts without us spending a penny. If it happened once or twice it might still make sense, but if it keeps happening, to be honest I don't think it's really real. But if there really is, why not.  Grin Grin
wait a minute, maybe a site provides a place to predict for free and get a real prize, but when the prediction is all right and deserves the money, maybe the customer is asked to deposit a few dollars to pay a fee. this is an old scam scheme. Cheesy
I'm still a little skeptical of things that look free but in the end have to pay to get our winnings. lol
That makes sense, because now nothing is free in life. If the end asks to deposit to withdraw after winning a prediction, what's the difference with us depositing first and making a bet. There are many ways that fraudsters do in their modus operandi, it continues to develop over time. Don't think that fraudsters are not smart, in fact they are smarter if we are tempted by the offers they give. Now we have to be really smart in seeing things that are beyond logic, otherwise we will be easily fooled by offers like this.

For sure that's gonna happen since they cannot sustain their site for having free bets option to their site users. So provably what they are doing right now is part of their marketing techniques since its easy to spread out the site if there's free money involve as pot prize. Also with those experience we encounter about those things like we need to deposit first before we can withdraw our winnings then we need to be more careful with that since we don't know yet their reputation so exert more effort to research if they are running legitimate operation before doing such actions.

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April 24, 2023, 05:12:55 AM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
It is not gambling for me since you didn't risk anything valuable. You can predict for free similar to a bonus. You have nothing to lose here so it's not gambling.

But it's also not easy to win this prediction since you have to guess correctly the score of 6 soccer matches. If you're already a gambler, you might be tempted to play with real money to see your chances. I think this is just a strategy to lure the gamblers to play on the casino.

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April 24, 2023, 10:09:11 AM
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Gambling is gambling

You can gamble with Your Life.

You can gamble with your house or cars.

You can gamble with anything valuable.

You can gamble with your crypto assets.

You can gamble with anything you want, it doesn't have to be money, and not using money to gamble doesn't make it less of a gamble, Prediction is also a gamble.
Whatever you mentioned are valuable things and if they are at stake, that's gambling. But how is that gambling if there is nothing at stake? If you say one spends their time, spending time on something doesn't make it gambling. It would only be considered gambling if you have something up at stake that you can lose if you lose.

A prediction where you have bet something that you can lose will be called gambling, not a prediction where nothing is up at stake. I don't consider myself gambling if I'm just normally predicting that a team will win a match but not making any bets with anyone.

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April 24, 2023, 03:06:13 PM
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For sure that's gonna happen since they cannot sustain their site for having free bets option to their site users. So provably what they are doing right now is part of their marketing techniques since its easy to spread out the site if there's free money involve as pot prize. Also with those experience we encounter about those things like we need to deposit first before we can withdraw our winnings then we need to be more careful with that since we don't know yet their reputation so exert more effort to research if they are running legitimate operation before doing such actions.
It's like a trap, and their target is people who always want to try and never do their research first. Now which sites are willing to give money when their users predict successfully. Maybe there is, but it doesn't always work that way.
Yes, this can also be said as a promotion that they are doing. Now it's easy to get registrars with free frills without spending any capital. I personally will avoid things like this and I prefer to gamble in places that are trusted.

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April 24, 2023, 03:21:08 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
It is not gambling for me since you didn't risk anything valuable. You can predict for free similar to a bonus. You have nothing to lose here so it's not gambling.

But it's also not easy to win this prediction since you have to guess correctly the score of 6 soccer matches. If you're already a gambler, you might be tempted to play with real money to see your chances. I think this is just a strategy to lure the gamblers to play on the casino.

Of course, how can it be considered a gamble if there is no money involved if all you do is guess. Also, I honestly couldn't get it when the author wanted to point to it.
But even so, maybe the author's theme is to possibly give more encouragement to other communities to play in a casino gambling here in cryptocurrency.

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April 24, 2023, 03:22:56 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
could be called a giveaway or something similar to that? I mean it's basically the same thing as some of the gambling sites/sportsbooks do on games and rounds where you have a chance of winning money or free bets just by predicting something without spending any money.
I think the giveaway in that game and round is much different than the free prediction site Op said, it's definitely different.
The giveaway in the games and rounds is certain and transparent giving prizes to participants who take part in the event.
Whereas what Op said was a free prediction site and we never know whether in reality someone has actually won a prize from that site.
So the site will not be able to be as transparent as the games and rounds.

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April 24, 2023, 03:24:17 PM
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For sure that's gonna happen since they cannot sustain their site for having free bets option to their site users. So provably what they are doing right now is part of their marketing techniques since its easy to spread out the site if there's free money involve as pot prize. Also with those experience we encounter about those things like we need to deposit first before we can withdraw our winnings then we need to be more careful with that since we don't know yet their reputation so exert more effort to research if they are running legitimate operation before doing such actions.
Please note that any site, that ask its users to deposit any amount of money before the user can withdraw he's or her winnings, is likely a scam.

This an old strategy by scammers where they first give you a substantial amount of money for free, or for doing very simple tasks, but upon withdrawal of such money, you are asked to make a deposit first, know if that they money is not money, it's just numbers on your dashboard, it can be wiped out any second or minute, when you fall, and deposit the money requested, be rest assured your money is gone.
I have encountered several of such sites, and non of them have ever been legit.

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April 24, 2023, 09:28:56 PM
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For sure that's gonna happen since they cannot sustain their site for having free bets option to their site users. So provably what they are doing right now is part of their marketing techniques since its easy to spread out the site if there's free money involve as pot prize. Also with those experience we encounter about those things like we need to deposit first before we can withdraw our winnings then we need to be more careful with that since we don't know yet their reputation so exert more effort to research if they are running legitimate operation before doing such actions.
Please note that any site, that ask its users to deposit any amount of money before the user can withdraw he's or her winnings, is likely a scam.

This an old strategy by scammers where they first give you a substantial amount of money for free, or for doing very simple tasks, but upon withdrawal of such money, you are asked to make a deposit first, know if that they money is not money, it's just numbers on your dashboard, it can be wiped out any second or minute, when you fall, and deposit the money requested, be rest assured your money is gone.
I have encountered several of such sites, and non of them have ever been legit.

everyone should be cautious about such bait. because that is true, a lot have been screwed by such tactic. they will let you play for free but when the withdrawal time comes, they will ask first you to deposit. so yeah, better check their withdrawal conditions first before being tempted in joining free games.
that's actually an old trick that we have seen before. so if they are still playing this kind of game up until now, it means, some naive users are still being tempted on this kind of offer.

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April 24, 2023, 09:56:48 PM
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Gambling is not all about putting your money in something and having fast outcome. Since there are different ways we can make bets, we are not expected to always put our money in something for us to make good profits. There are some bets where we don't need to out money, we only need to try our luck and see how far we can go.

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April 24, 2023, 09:57:51 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

For sure it can be called gambling, since you are able to win, so all the games you watch become more emotional, that's what I'd call gambling spirit... As for not losing money in case of bet team losing, the mood anyway changes, so it can be considered "money loss" as well

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April 24, 2023, 09:58:53 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

First of all, i try to open the link you share. unfortunately, it seems that this site is only devoted to certain countries. in fact, it seems only for one country only. secondly, I've never heard of Superpicks. So, this is the first time I know that there are sites that make predictions and win money without risking anything.
well, regarding the question you asked, the answer will be very diverse and relative to each person. however, because what you're asking is related to the link you shared. To be honest, I can't answer for sure. because, I do not know, why the site does the program.

However, if I answer it from the gambling side. especially online gambling, it's not called gambling, if there's nothing at stake, especially if it doesn't involve money as a betting medium. however, from a traditional perspective, you can gamble without having to use only money as the medium. for example, if you bet with friends, friends, or other people around you. You can bet anything according to the agreement, it can be in the form of goods, property, or whatever it is, all of that fulfills the element of gambling.

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April 24, 2023, 10:28:42 PM
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Gambling is not all about putting your money in something and having fast outcome. Since there are different ways we can make bets, we are not expected to always put our money in something for us to make good profits. There are some bets where we don't need to out money, we only need to try our luck and see how far we can go.
in gambling many people propose of gambling is because of money and when they lose in gambling they get discouraged that is why sometimes it will be better for someone that you know that is into gambling the person have to take a proper time to play Did it came before betting so that it will be able to win because an average gambler is expected to win it gamble

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April 24, 2023, 10:45:34 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
I don’t see gambling if there is no money betting in the first place. Because the fact that people resort into gambling, is to make good amount of money. Others may even find it as an instant way to get rich most particularly with lottery gambling. Maybe, for some who are just playing for fun without money involved, it could be gambling for them but in the real scenario, gambling will always be associated with money and wealth.
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April 25, 2023, 07:03:54 AM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
If you get money it is gambling i think. Even if you don`t spend your money. But when you don`t risk your money, you feel other emotions. Without risk it is to easy to bet but the same time it is dull enough, when you lose nothing. I make sometimes such predictions for free - it really dull without risk and it doesn`t matter shall i get money for it or not.

When you get used to gambling everything is exciting when it involves to betting because you wont get challenged when there are no betting takes place. Even just watching a fight like boxing it is not that exciting like without you betting on the fighter. I think this is the reason why people got addicted to it meaning they wont enjoy a game without gambling
Yes, it is so. When you just watching some match - you don`t lose anything. You can be just become disappointed with the result. But when you can lose something - you feel much more emotions from the match/fight.
And your predictions and bets become more accurate when you feel responsibility for the result.

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April 25, 2023, 07:46:05 AM
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Yes, it is so. When you just watching some match - you don`t lose anything. You can be just become disappointed with the result. But when you can lose something - you feel much more emotions from the match/fight.
And your predictions and bets become more accurate when you feel responsibility for the result.
Disappointment is sure to get when gamblers lose some money but when gamblers bet with pleasure and responsibility they don't regret what they have lost because of betting and precisely from that loss they can learn and learn to make every prediction correctly and learn to control themselves so that they are more be responsible and can accept any risk when betting.
Emotions have made many gamblers lose things and even make it difficult to be able to make correct betting predictions.
By the way, have you ever had a number of free spins and managed to win tens of dollars but had to deposit more than what you got to make a withdrawal and when you made a deposit you had to bet but instead lost everything because of curiosity when playing using free spins you can get the win.

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April 25, 2023, 08:56:29 AM
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Gambling is not all about putting your money in something and having fast outcome. Since there are different ways we can make bets, we are not expected to always put our money in something for us to make good profits. There are some bets where we don't need to out money, we only need to try our luck and see how far we can go.
in gambling many people propose of gambling is because of money and when they lose in gambling they get discouraged that is why sometimes it will be better for someone that you know that is into gambling the person have to take a proper time to play Did it came before betting so that it will be able to win because an average gambler is expected to win it gamble

There's difference between playing games and gambling, you can get involved in any form of gaming activities and enjoy yourself without using oney while doing this, this is for fun and leisure purpose because we are interested in sport activities on a friendly benefits with each other, but when we talks about gambling, then it has to involve the use of money, that money used in playing those games is what makes it turn gambling and the persons involved are gamblers because they bet and betting involves the use of money, you have a better chances of winning more money if your prediction is accurate while you loose your stake if you aren't accurate in gambling a particular sport.

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April 25, 2023, 09:21:01 AM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
It is not gambling for me since you didn't risk anything valuable. You can predict for free similar to a bonus. You have nothing to lose here so it's not gambling.

But it's also not easy to win this prediction since you have to guess correctly the score of 6 soccer matches. If you're already a gambler, you might be tempted to play with real money to see your chances. I think this is just a strategy to lure the gamblers to play on the casino.
Right. For me, this is more of a marketing strategy so that those who might predict correctly might be gambling sooner and start to wager an amount to bet. Maybe for now, what the site is offering is not gambling yet, but knowing this is a gambling site, it will eventually tempt you to bet an amount the next time you play in it as the rewards are quite impressive and promising. The end point here is to see you finally gambling in their site so they can start profiting from your funds.

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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
I don’t see gambling if there is no money betting in the first place. Because the fact that people resort into gambling, is to make good amount of money. Others may even find it as an instant way to get rich most particularly with lottery gambling. Maybe, for some who are just playing for fun without money involved, it could be gambling for them but in the real scenario, gambling will always be associated with money and wealth.

I have the same thing in mind.

Gambling requires the risk. It isn't optional. If there's no risk, then it's not counted as gambling since you don't have anything to lose at all. Gambling games involve luck, skills, and strategies combined. If you were to play without money involved, you're merely having fun playing, but not really gambling. Gambling requires you betting and staking something valuable and important to you such as your money or assets. If you're only going to play to test the waters or to have fun, you are just practicing and seeking entertainment in the form of recreational activity.
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April 25, 2023, 10:34:59 AM
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~ Right. For me, this is more of a marketing strategy so that those who might predict correctly might be gambling sooner and start to wager an amount to bet. Maybe for now, what the site is offering is not gambling yet, but knowing this is a gambling site, it will eventually tempt you to bet an amount the next time you play in it as the rewards are quite impressive and promising. The end point here is to see you finally gambling in their site so they can start profiting from your funds.

I agree, the site from the OP isn't a gambling site itself, but it refers you to a real gambling site(anyone can see it after going by the link). So, I wouldn't recommend using the predictor to underage youth and to people with potential gambling problems. Other than that, if it will be referring you only to honest platforms, it looks totally fine to me.

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