Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[summonerrk]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I don't think it's gambling, but it is a gift to be given to them randomly, the context of gambling must have a bet in it, it can only be said to be a gambling, but if there is no bet it is not gambling in my opinion, it is more like you get a coupon with prizes In Super Market after you shop for free, then if the number you get appears on the winner's match you get it. Or you get a door prize on a leisurely walk or marathon event, when you are not asked to pay the requirements to get the lottery number then it is not gambling but it is more to the event with random prizes.

There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

I agree, because the word Risk is embedded in the very concept of gambling. That is, one of two or more partners risks something when he makes a kind of deal with another participant.
And what do we risk when we don't bet anything?
Therefore, gambling, which is not related to money, is not gambling. It's more like computer games, when you experience emotions, but it's not more than that.

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[Desmong]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.

[Newlifebtc]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.

People really choose the kind of gambling that won't because actually what they needed is to make a profit why some people follow the step of other people to play gambling because in their mind said they think that they are malisis of those people will come to pass or we'll make them to me the gambling so there is different way people operate in gambling some people strategies is based on other person quotation or other person's prediction

[Lanatsa]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.

People really choose the kind of gambling that won't because actually what they needed is to make a profit why some people follow the step of other people to play gambling because in their mind said they think that they are malisis of those people will come to pass or we'll make them to me the gambling so there is different way people operate in gambling some people strategies is based on other person quotation or other person's prediction

On the time that you are seeing someone who do make out some profits on doing gambling then it would really be normal that you would really be having that kind of impression on which you would really be that
having in mind that you would really be needing to follow or you would really be that interested on doing such thing and hoping that you would experience the same which it is really that not a good idea to have.Gambling is something that should really be for fun and not for income seeking because it doesnt really fit out with that kind of criteria because thats not how it works or do.
Gambling is pertaining about taking a bet for a certain game or whatsoever which do involves money or simply with having the risks, if we are speaking on something which is a free bet but still have
the chance on winning some prizes then it is really that risk free or not really gambling at all.

I agree on previous pages on telling that these kind of situations or conditions are really that surely a promotional ones or something that it is temporary. A certain company wont really be
making this offering for lasting that long but rather it would be a short one. They cant just able to sustain on giving it out for long time on where giving out chances to people
on getting winning amounts without risking something or on the benefit of the casino alone.

[LUCKMCFLY]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

What do you consider the risk to be about if there is no money at stake? Every single game is a win-or-lose type of game, but not every game in the world is a gambling game or should be considered one unless there is something staked on it and I don't see OP mentioning anywhere that there is some requirement for it.

If there is nothing of value at stake, it cannot be considered gambling at all, and risk is only when you have something at stake which you can potentially lose if you don't make a correct prediction.

Well, there what he was able to understand is that there are times when it is scary to place bets with money, but that is normal only at the Beginning, then later that fear is lost,the Important thing is that if you place sports bets you have to be clear that here the greatest Responsibility is on the part of the bettor, because there are only two possibilities in general, and here things must be fully Fulfilled, if you know enough about a sport and if it is considered a fan help,but if it is not, and it is left Carrying by the emcoines or by what the rest says is like doing complemtante gambling.

well, that's because it is on the safer side of gambling without losing anything, but i prefer to call that as just a game for free since you didn't have to risk that much so winning or losing doesn't matter too much and on the brighter side, if ever you won then you will still earn. it's not that we have different perspective on different aspects of this world, but for me every decision you've made are always carrying risk, even if we say that you are playing it safe at the end of the spectrum. i understand that the consequences of losing this time isn't that much heavy compared to when you are actually putting in some amount but a risk is still a risk that's why i just prefer to call it a game than gamble.

Indeed things are like that, but because of this, what can I say about the risk? everything in life represents a risk, there are no achievements if something is not risked, we always have something to lose, but if these things that we have to risk if we do not risk them we will not find a way to gain something more, all those who they are successful, it is because they have taken risks, the big losers are also those who risked a lot and luck was not on their side, but even so, some have been able to get up and others have not , this type of thing is what we should always have as examples Fortunately, we own our own risks , and this is what makes us Still have Freedom.

[TheGreatPython]

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.
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If by "other" you are referring to another human gambler, then you need to know that the concept of you winning and others losing only comes when there is a multiplayer game being played and you are not against the house only, because in most gambling games, you are up against the house and in that case, it is only you who either win or lose and mostly you lose because of the house edge.

Luck is obviously the only element that you need in gambling to succeed, otherwise, no matter how much money you carry with you when entering a casino, you will come out empty handed if you don't have luck on your side.

[Betwrong]

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Gambling is pertaining about taking a bet for a certain game or whatsoever which do involves money or simply with having the risks, if we are speaking on something which is a free bet but still have
the chance on winning some prizes then it is really that risk free or not really gambling at all.
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I've been thinking of it and realised that for some people it is still gambling, even though their money is not at stake. What is at stake is their mental health. Suppose they win that free bet and start gambling from then on. Later they may become gambling addicts, and isn't that a terrible loss for them? So, we shouldn't say to those people, "It's not gambling. Go ahead!". Although there's only a small percentage of such people we still should care about them.

[Wiwo]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern of how gambling works.

When gambling gain prominent was when gaming became monetized and players now earned money while playing games and this have also been the reason why the increase in playing time by many gamblers, this have it ups and down and one of such up and down is the high rate of gambling addictions among people, this is were the player for the reason of chasing loses or winnings end up getting tied down by addictions this is what has given it some negative overview, and another consideration is the place of providing an extra source of income for gamblers and this is in most underdeveloped countries the majority of the gaming fans are now in for the winning since their use it to take care of one or two of their needs.
So money is at the centre of gambling activities,  and whether or not a player chooses to play free games or stake money directly one thing must be spent which is time.

[maydna]

If by "other" you are referring to another human gambler, then you need to know that the concept of you winning and others losing only comes when there is a multiplayer game being played and you are not against the house only, because in most gambling games, you are up against the house and in that case, it is only you who either win or lose and mostly you lose because of the house edge.

Luck is obviously the only element that you need in gambling to succeed, otherwise, no matter how much money you carry with you when entering a casino, you will come out empty handed if you don't have luck on your side.

Agree with what you said. Luck is a determining factor so that we can win; without luck, we will not be able to win. We're up against the casino, and the chances of winning probably won't be as big as the chances of losing. So we must eliminate that desire to win instead of just thinking about enjoying gambling moments.

And if we choose to use a demo game, it means we are not gambling even though we are clearly gambling

[Wiwo]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern of how gambling works.

Let's say no pain no gain because money is the pain and the risk you take to be able to win something and even though you play on a demo account you won't have any winning and at that, it will amount to nothing because you did not stake any real amount, so it becomes boring to keep playing,  but on the other hand staking with real money bring in the excitement to keep playing since the winning will become the motivation to keep the game on.

[Desmong]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.

People really choose the kind of gambling that won't because actually what they needed is to make a profit why some people follow the step of other people to play gambling because in their mind said they think that they are malisis of those people will come to pass or we'll make them to me the gambling so there is different way people operate in gambling some people strategies is based on other person quotation or other person's prediction

It is true that everyone of us want to make money in gambling but sometimes it can be difficult for us to make money since the market is very competitive and you making profits always might not be possible. Gambling is a game of luck and it will always work for those people that have the luck to make them keep winning. If you don't always win in gaming and gambling, you need to look for a way to mix with people that do have consistent winning maybe you could win also.

[LUCKMCFLY]

same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

The majority of people never use the casino in its demo version, it is uncurrent, when you enter a casino the adrenaline does everything, it is known that if it earns with fictional money it is something disappointing, I have had very little with the demo versions,But it is not what we are looking for, because what we are looking for is more fun and we always want the best and if it is to win at once it is much better, because the emotion is also in retreat and that everything flows in the best way, without However, I think that demo versions is for us to realize the risk we are taking when we have little money and risk it will always be difficult.

When it comes to gambling affairs, then money has to be involved because that's the money means to why we call it gambling, let's put it like this that gambling is not complete until we use money to make a bet in it, only the lottery which is synonymous to gambling requires no money before you can partake, then the other example is in the case of those that uses gambling demo videosz games to learn and practice about gambling before they are into gambling fully, this is often common with newbie who are yet to get familiar with gambling experience.

It's like that , what happens is that when you watch games and don't bet , it's like going to play play station, that you can play with your children, and there is nothing but a very healthy competition, and yes, there is emotion, but in the games of chance, things are at a Different price and you can see that when you bet it is something else, emotions come to the fore, the game can become fierce to continue betting and betting, having a lot of money at stake to play, win or Losing things begins to be seen in a different way , even if the game is boring, when there is money Involved , things Change , unless the players who have played on the street say so.

[bayu7adi]

I agree, because the word Risk is embedded in the very concept of gambling. That is, one of two or more partners risks something when he makes a kind of deal with another participant.

Until now, I still agree that only money or other valuable assets can be wagered as a risk in gambling. Therefore, it seems more logical to state that anyone who doesn't have money or other valuable items to stake, even if they stand to win a prize, is not engaging in gambling.

However, there is an intriguing perspective when we look at it from a different angle, which I often encounter within my circle of friends. Yep, gambling can also refer to the act of risking something uncertain against something else. It's worth noting that not all wealth comes in the form of money but can also be in the form of agreements.

Have you ever heard a friend making a simple bet during the final match of the 2022 World Cup and saying something like this to the owner of a small restaurant: "If Portugal wins the final match, I will clean this place for a week. But if Argentina wins, I request free meals at this place for a week."

Yes, those were words laced with laughter, but we, as men, never go back on our word. And in my opinion, that can be considered a form of gambling. Right? But, no money here.

[wiss19]

If by "other" you are referring to another human gambler, then you need to know that the concept of you winning and others losing only comes when there is a multiplayer game being played and you are not against the house only, because in most gambling games, you are up against the house and in that case, it is only you who either win or lose and mostly you lose because of the house edge.

Luck is obviously the only element that you need in gambling to succeed, otherwise, no matter how much money you carry with you when entering a casino, you will come out empty handed if you don't have luck on your side.

Agree with what you said. Luck is a determining factor so that we can win; without luck, we will not be able to win. We're up against the casino, and the chances of winning probably won't be as big as the chances of losing. So we must eliminate that desire to win instead of just thinking about enjoying gambling moments.

And if we choose to use a demo game, it means we are not gambling even though we are clearly gambling

Using a demo account is simply wasting your time, only new gamblers try demo accounts only to learn how different games work or old players use demo modes in games they are about to play for the first time just to see how the game looks like, the graphics, outcomes, etc. A regular gambler will barely spend any time using a demo account only so that he doesn't gamble much because your urge doesn't get fulfilled with free money.

And it is almost impossible to eliminate the desire to win when you are gambling, it's just a general instinct that when you gamble or decide to gamble, you have this in your mind already that you might manage to win something big. But, what matters is that you don't let that feeling capture all your mind and make you gamble more and more so that you become addicted.

[Asuspawer09]

That doesn't look like its a free gambling, I mean thinking about it there's no way you could gamble and will without a wager and do it every time maybe it was just for promotion to get a lot of traffic on the website. I mean it might just be a promotion since it could easily encourage a lot of people to play more and gamble more.

For me gambling includes money or something that has value, you can't really be called it gambling if you don't bet anything valuable then it will be just for fun or past time since it doesn't really matter if you win or lose you will lose or get nothing at the end of the day. It all suddenly becomes different when it already includes a bet or something, when playing a game you play for fun is just for bonding but with a bet included your gonna need to be serious since you're going to lose money, suddenly you just needed to win.

[John Abraham]

Suppose you are not risking anything. I don't think it can be considered as gambling. Gambling is where you bet, and you risk something. No matter what is the odd. Even if it's 1.01, still it's a gambling. But, When you do not risk anything. It's not gambling, in my opinion. Others might have a different view. I would like to hear why they consider it gambling, as you are not risking anything. I think It's more like a contest where you can participate for free, and there is a prize poll if you win. But, you are not losing anything if your prediction is wrong.

There might be some exceptions as well. Often we win free bets from games and round. In this case, we are not risking anything yet we can win if our team wins. What it should be consider as? Is it gambling? I saw yahoo62278 also said "If you are not wagering any money or reputation, then you are not gambling". I would love to hear from him what is he think about it. Do you consider a free bet as wagering money?

[maydna]

If by "other" you are referring to another human gambler, then you need to know that the concept of you winning and others losing only comes when there is a multiplayer game being played and you are not against the house only, because in most gambling games, you are up against the house and in that case, it is only you who either win or lose and mostly you lose because of the house edge.

Luck is obviously the only element that you need in gambling to succeed, otherwise, no matter how much money you carry with you when entering a casino, you will come out empty handed if you don't have luck on your side.

Agree with what you said. Luck is a determining factor so that we can win; without luck, we will not be able to win. We're up against the casino, and the chances of winning probably won't be as big as the chances of losing. So we must eliminate that desire to win instead of just thinking about enjoying gambling moments.

And if we choose to use a demo game, it means we are not gambling even though we are clearly gambling

Using a demo account is simply wasting your time, only new gamblers try demo accounts only to learn how different games work or old players use demo modes in games they are about to play for the first time just to see how the game looks like, the graphics, outcomes, etc. A regular gambler will barely spend any time using a demo account only so that he doesn't gamble much because your urge doesn't get fulfilled with free money.

And it is almost impossible to eliminate the desire to win when you are gambling, it's just a general instinct that when you gamble or decide to gamble, you have this in your mind already that you might manage to win something big. But, what matters is that you don't let that feeling capture all your mind and make you gamble more and more so that you become addicted.

I don't think so either because you don't need to use your money; if you lose, you won't lose any money. And that can keep you safe in playing gambling but also trigger you to try using real money because playing with a demo account might be less challenging for some people.

And when you can win some money, you will think that if it were real money, you would feel very happy. Therein lies the temptation of gambling, so you must think again about not trying to gamble, especially if you don't have good self-control.

[slapper]

Suppose you are not risking anything. I don't think it can be considered as gambling. Gambling is where you bet, and you risk something. No matter what is the odd. Even if it's 1.01, still it's a gambling. But, When you do not risk anything. It's not gambling, in my opinion. Others might have a different view. I would like to hear why they consider it gambling, as you are not risking anything. I think It's more like a contest where you can participate for free, and there is a prize poll if you win. But, you are not losing anything if your prediction is wrong.

There might be some exceptions as well. Often we win free bets from games and round. In this case, we are not risking anything yet we can win if our team wins. What it should be consider as? Is it gambling? I saw yahoo62278 also said "If you are not wagering any money or reputation, then you are not gambling". I would love to hear from him what is he think about it. Do you consider a free bet as wagering money?

What you're asking gets to the heart of what we mean when we say 'gaming.' Typically, gamblers stake monetary or material stakes on the results of games with an arbitrary house edge. Is it still gambling if there is no monetary stake or other material risk?

The answer, in my opinion, depends on how risk is classified. It could appear that there is no risk if no money is at stake. But let's think about the 'time' factor. Time, which is perhaps our most valuable resource, is invested even in free games or rounds. When viewed in this light, it does have some similarities to gambling.

Free wagers could be viewed as a form of conditional wagering in which the opportunity cost is a potential loss. Even if there is no outlay of cash, an activity could still be considered gambling if the stakes are high enough. Indeed, the way we define "risk" and "wager" affects the complexity of this issue.

[Dimitri94]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern of how gambling works.

Let's say no pain no gain because money is the pain and the risk you take to be able to win something and even though you play on a demo account you won't have any winning and at that, it will amount to nothing because you did not stake any real amount, so it becomes boring to keep playing,  but on the other hand staking with real money bring in the excitement to keep playing since the winning will become the motivation to keep the game on.

A trader can learn good trading by using demo account. But never get a taste of gambling using this demo account. Gambling doesn't take long to learn. Neither the cost of losing nor the joy of winning is reflected when a gambler conducts betting on a demo account. Unless the gambler panics between winning and losing, it cannot be considered gambling. Because according to the basic rules of gambling there must be an element of loss and gain through money or anything else.

[summonerrk]

I agree, because the word Risk is embedded in the very concept of gambling. That is, one of two or more partners risks something when he makes a kind of deal with another participant.

Until now, I still agree that only money or other valuable assets can be wagered as a risk in gambling. Therefore, it seems more logical to state that anyone who doesn't have money or other valuable items to stake, even if they stand to win a prize, is not engaging in gambling.

However, there is an intriguing perspective when we look at it from a different angle, which I often encounter within my circle of friends. Yep, gambling can also refer to the act of risking something uncertain against something else. It's worth noting that not all wealth comes in the form of money but can also be in the form of agreements.

Have you ever heard a friend making a simple bet during the final match of the 2022 World Cup and saying something like this to the owner of a small restaurant: "If Portugal wins the final match, I will clean this place for a week. But if Argentina wins, I request free meals at this place for a week."

Yes, those were words laced with laughter, but we, as men, never go back on our word. And in my opinion, that can be considered a form of gambling. Right? But, no money here.

Yes, but in a broad sense, he does not risk much, and he does not enter into a binding agreement or contract. Rather, it's just a joke, and he will not be held accountable for non-compliance with these conditions. Therefore, I am not sure that we can consider such cases as Gambling.
Nevertheless, such cases awaken excitement in a person, which is harmless at first. But then it can turn into actions. In bets with money or cryptocurrencies.
And this is a real gambling.