The madness of gambling addicts.

[maydna]

I think gambling is better to quit if you can't control it by gambling he lost hundreds of times more money than he won. Gambling is an addiction in which you will always be in a daze, you will feel like playing this one more time, taking the profit, and not playing again. Then when you win you will say let's play for the last time when you lose everything while playing for the last time you will say, I will take the original and resign from gambling. Then that last time will leave you destitute.

That's roughly like the general picture that happens to people who gamble. The first time he had a different experience and wanted to do it again because, at that time, he could get the win. But it turned out that he couldn't win at all on the second occasion and wanted to do it again on the third occasion. On the third occasion, he could only get a small victory that made him want to continue the game. This will slowly make him addicted to finding something challenging to beat. And, of course, he would use more money to try his luck every time he lost. If you can't control it, it's better to walk away from gambling and never come back. Otherwise, you will experience a gambling addiction you don't know about. So before it's too late, think about what you've got in gambling. And if it's bad for you, it's better to leave than you lose all your money.

[Weawant]

Generally those elder people will act more responsible in their life but there is exception in everything and this poor guy tried something probably inspired from a story somewhere and try to replicate the same but at the end it backfired. Since you mentioned there is not much enough details reported by news so we can't really conclude that is the reality or not but at the end of the day the person committed violence is paying back now in prison probably for the rest of his life.

The story looks very odd as grandparents are those who look after their grandchildren more and not kidnapping them. Maybe they don't give the man money and he has problem he needs to solved with money then saw this as the only way out.

Then after he was caught, he used the gambling story to cover up as kidnapping your own child just to get ransom to gamble doesn't sound realistic. Why don't he just take the ransom and use for himself instead if gambling again.

I know gambling addict are very unpredictable as they can do anything to keep on gambling but this stories doesn't sound like something a grandfather will do. Maybe if the relationship wasn't very close like a cousin or someone else I'll believe the story.

[slapper]

I think gambling is better to quit if you can't control it by gambling he lost hundreds of times more money than he won. Gambling is an addiction in which you will always be in a daze, you will feel like playing this one more time, taking the profit, and not playing again. Then when you win you will say let's play for the last time when you lose everything while playing for the last time you will say, I will take the original and resign from gambling. Then that last time will leave you destitute.

That's roughly like the general picture that happens to people who gamble. The first time he had a different experience and wanted to do it again because, at that time, he could get the win. But it turned out that he couldn't win at all on the second occasion and wanted to do it again on the third occasion. On the third occasion, he could only get a small victory that made him want to continue the game. This will slowly make him addicted to finding something challenging to beat. And, of course, he would use more money to try his luck every time he lost. If you can't control it, it's better to walk away from gambling and never come back. Otherwise, you will experience a gambling addiction you don't know about. So before it's too late, think about what you've got in gambling. And if it's bad for you, it's better to leave than you lose all your money.

Addiction? Who's got time for that? Keep rollin' till the money stacks up, right?   

That's what gambling's all about, no? Jokes aside, though, gambling addiction ain't a laughing matter. Starts off innocent enough – just killing time, then bam! You're tossing your life's worth at a one-armed bandit, praying for a windfall. So take it from our pal here, know when to bow out. Better to pocket some change than end up penniless and hooked on the gamble.

[BitcoinAccepted]

People all deal with losses in their own way. The term addiction is of course often used, but when exactly is someone addicted? You can't link certain standards to that. Someone who plays with bets of 1 euro and does this for hours every day is also addicted. But someone who loses 100k in a match once a month and does not gamble further, is in principle not addicted? Of course, the aggression is expressed much earlier in someone who loses a lot of money, but that also makes sense. However, many gamblers are only gambling online and if they lose no one will notice that aggression quickly.

[molsewid]

Only gambling addicts understand the feeling aka adrenaline rush after huge wins and our brain look for same taste after playing casino games. We keep looking for dopamine no matter it happens on huge slot multipliers or on original house games, some guys don't even respect their red line and keep depositing to win back losses. Only small portion of gambling addicts get back what they lost btw, sad but true.

Yes, the feeling when you are winning is the feeling that cannot be stop so easily. Winning consecutively will give you too much adrenaline that if you will continue to play and play you might now missed that feeling, we need to manage our emotions because all us might be the subject of addiction some other people still play regularly but I can't say they are addicted, maybe when the time comes that they don't have money anymore and started to sell of their things or they started to disturb other people.

[tusandii]

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Indeed, in this case, not everyone can be open, but when they are still living with their parents, in fact, if the parents really care about the child's unnatural behavior, it can actually be seen under any circumstances.
Unless the parents don't really care. But indeed in this case, especially from the point of view of the parents who have indeed freed this, maybe this is one of the reasons because in this case, when we as children are adults, there will definitely be privacy, which of course must be maintained.

Even though the role of parents is very caring and can also see the behavior of their child, whether there is a problem, including getting involved in gambling, it can certainly be known, but if a child is really closed and does not show his behavior in the slightest, then it is difficult to predict or know, even though his own parents.
Yes, on average, parents who have children who have grown up will give them more freedom and can only monitor or remind them when they make a wrong decision.
I am very sad to see that there are many children nowadays who have become gamblers and they commit acts of gambling that are more severe than adults.

[RealMalatesta]

The story looks very odd as grandparents are those who look after their grandchildren more and not kidnapping them. Maybe they don't give the man money and he has problem he needs to solved with money then saw this as the only way out.

Then after he was caught, he used the gambling story to cover up as kidnapping your own child just to get ransom to gamble doesn't sound realistic. Why don't he just take the ransom and use for himself instead if gambling again.

I know gambling addict are very unpredictable as they can do anything to keep on gambling but this stories doesn't sound like something a grandfather will do. Maybe if the relationship wasn't very close like a cousin or someone else I'll believe the story.

I think there are a lot of radical stories that doesn't really look like reality to most people but we know that common thing is not the only thing in the world. Sure we know one type of grandparent and that is the common one, most of them are like that, but there are very few, rare cases where it is not like that at all and could be different.

I have seen grandparents who had 10+ kids and 50+ grandchildren who sent their kids to war with next door towns family, over a feud on some animals, to kill people there, and to die if they have to. They just consider them as their soldiers and not grandchildren, no love whatsoever aside from a love of a general towards a soldier, that's it. So common thing is not the only one, there are rare situations that shocks us when we read about it unfortunately.

[BobK71]

Only gambling addicts understand the feeling aka adrenaline rush after huge wins and our brain look for same taste after playing casino games. We keep looking for dopamine no matter it happens on huge slot multipliers or on original house games, some guys don't even respect their red line and keep depositing to win back losses. Only small portion of gambling addicts get back what they lost btw, sad but true.

Yes, the feeling when you are winning is the feeling that cannot be stop so easily. Winning consecutively will give you too much adrenaline that if you will continue to play and play you might now missed that feeling, we need to manage our emotions because all us might be the subject of addiction some other people still play regularly but I can't say they are addicted, maybe when the time comes that they don't have money anymore and started to sell of their things or they started to disturb other people.

There are times we keep winning even if it happens rarely unless you are super unlucky. Feeling better is directly connected to the win/loss ratio on gambling for addicted gamblers so I can get the point why they keep continue depositing. Only professional support is needed to save such gamblers so they can get rid of the addiction,otherwise, it will go worse every day. At one point it hurts people around such people, unfortunately.

Another big problem with an addicted gambler is that they get worried or depressed when they lose but does it make a big difference if they win? Can they take a temporary break from gambling? The answer is no. When a gambler cannot take a break after winning or losing, he is an addicted gambler. And an addicted gambler will never survive in gambling. When a gambler is addicted only negative things arise from him. Moreover, a gambler can safely gamble in online due to which it is very difficult to identify about him. As a result, it is largely impossible to turn him away from his addiction unless he takes such an initiative by his own self.

[LDL]

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

Gambling is a serious addiction that can seriously disrupt a person's mind. Especially when a gambler is constantly facing losses, he develops a strong desire in his mind and becomes restless to gain. If he doesn't have the money to gamble at that moment then he could be involved in a variety of criminal activities like the OP mentioned.
In my country usually gamblers who participate in local system gambling are seen to commit many criminal activities. They get involved in activities ranging from hijacking to buying and selling of contraband. However, such negative activities do not usually occur in the case of professional gamblers and they lead a normal lifestyle.

[Outhue]

It's a bigger mess in my country, almost all the touths are into gambling and it has taken all they have away from them, some quiet and some don't know how to quit, till today they don't know how to stop the addiction and some believe that pray works with gambling, it is this bad, imagine praying to God for a miracle through gambling, is that even a prayer?

Despite the fact that I am not religious, I believe God does not like gambling. This is similar to the prodigal son story, if you have no control over anything, then it's an addiction.

It's crazy losing money from something and still playing it over and over, the only way to be sanity with gambling is playing for fun, and thats when you have the money that you can afford to lose, do not use gambling as your dream source, do not dream that gambling will open some good life for you, it's already a hell for you if you've developed this mindset.

[Yamifoud]

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

Gambling is a serious addiction that can seriously disrupt a person's mind. Especially when a gambler is constantly facing losses, he develops a strong desire in his mind and becomes restless to gain. If he doesn't have the money to gamble at that moment then he could be involved in a variety of criminal activities like the OP mentioned.
In my country usually gamblers who participate in local system gambling are seen to commit many criminal activities. They get involved in activities ranging from hijacking to buying and selling of contraband. However, such negative activities do not usually occur in the case of professional gamblers and they lead a normal lifestyle.

Pro gamblers are different from usual gamblers but if we talk about addiction, they are all the same and chances are they both commit criminal activities when they badly need money to keep their addiction alive. Because their attention is not on where to get money, they don't care if that is wrong as long as they can get money to sustain their gambling life. If you have said that it happens in your locality, that also happens in some places, in some countries as well. That is what we called _"the curse of gambling addiction" and that is hard to stop.

[maydna]

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Only gambling addicts understand the feeling aka adrenaline rush after huge wins and our brain look for same taste after playing casino games. We keep looking for dopamine no matter it happens on huge slot multipliers or on original house games, some guys don't even respect their red line and keep depositing to win back losses. Only small portion of gambling addicts get back what they lost btw, sad but true.

Gambling addicts who have won big want to get the next win, so they will continue to gamble and perhaps use even more money to gamble. This has happened many times, and I suspect there must be a lot of gambling addicts who have lost money even though they managed to win a large amount of money from the casino. We can't always win from the casinos because, after all, the casinos are the business owners and the real winners.

~snip~

Addiction? Who's got time for that? Keep rollin' till the money stacks up, right?   

That's what gambling's all about, no? Jokes aside, though, gambling addiction ain't a laughing matter. Starts off innocent enough – just killing time, then bam! You're tossing your life's worth at a one-armed bandit, praying for a windfall. So take it from our pal here, know when to bow out. Better to pocket some change than end up penniless and hooked on the gamble.

People who cannot restrain themselves from gambling and instead allow themselves to be further immersed in gambling become gambling addicts. But they can't accumulate their money because they have to face defeat that can come at any time.

Gambling can make our lives ruined, and we have nothing left. We are better off making gambling a tool for fun than using gambling to make money. That can't happen, especially if we only play luck-based gambling. But it will come back to each gambler.

[Renampun]

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Despite the fact that I am not religious, I believe God does not like gambling. This is similar to the prodigal son story, if you have no control over anything, then it's an addiction.

It's crazy losing money from something and still playing it over and over, the only way to be sanity with gambling is playing for fun, and thats when you have the money that you can afford to lose, do not use gambling as your dream source, do not dream that gambling will open some good life for you, it's already a hell for you if you've developed this mindset.

I am also not someone who is very devout with religious teachings, but from what I know the bad effects of gambling are actually sins, so as long as you play responsibly - don't put yourself and others in trouble - don't get addicted to gambling - don't commit crimes - be satisfied with all the results that you get, then your gambling is not a sin at all.

Pro gamblers are different from usual gamblers but if we talk about addiction, they are all the same and chances are they both commit criminal activities when they badly need money to keep their addiction alive. Because their attention is not on where to get money, they don't care if that is wrong as long as they can get money to sustain their gambling life. If you have said that it happens in your locality, that also happens in some places, in some countries as well. That is what we called _"the curse of gambling addiction" and that is hard to stop.

I can say, those who are professionals in gambling are smart people, they control themselves - they think - as well as their surroundings, it's not gambling (becoming addicted to gambling) so it's only dumb people who commit crimes to gamble, they are too narrow in their think (like that stupid grandfather who kidnapped his granddaughter).

[virasisog]

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Only gambling addicts understand the feeling aka adrenaline rush after huge wins and our brain look for same taste after playing casino games. We keep looking for dopamine no matter it happens on huge slot multipliers or on original house games, some guys don't even respect their red line and keep depositing to win back losses. Only small portion of gambling addicts get back what they lost btw, sad but true.

Gambling addicts who have won big want to get the next win, so they will continue to gamble and perhaps use even more money to gamble. This has happened many times, and I suspect there must be a lot of gambling addicts who have lost money even though they managed to win a large amount of money from the casino. We can't always win from the casinos because, after all, the casinos are the business owners and the real winners.

~snip~

Addiction? Who's got time for that? Keep rollin' till the money stacks up, right?   

That's what gambling's all about, no? Jokes aside, though, gambling addiction ain't a laughing matter. Starts off innocent enough – just killing time, then bam! You're tossing your life's worth at a one-armed bandit, praying for a windfall. So take it from our pal here, know when to bow out. Better to pocket some change than end up penniless and hooked on the gamble.

People who cannot restrain themselves from gambling and instead allow themselves to be further immersed in gambling become gambling addicts. But they can't accumulate their money because they have to face defeat that can come at any time.

Gambling can make our lives ruined, and we have nothing left. We are better off making gambling a tool for fun than using gambling to make money. That can't happen, especially if we only play luck-based gambling. But it will come back to each gambler.

An addiction to gambling is a sign of fragility. Uncontrollable gambling urges are a sign that someone can no longer discipline and control themselves, and they may also indicate a mental illness that requires medical attention.
Putting the lives of our loved ones or family members in jeopardy is already the worst thing that we might do as a result of gambling since whenever a person risks money or even puts his essential asset at risk despite the repercussions, that is an indication that he is into impulsive addiction.
We are always recommended to get assistance as soon as we start to exhibit symptoms of gambling addiction. We shouldn't put off gambling until we are in a situation where we would be breaking the law. When we give in to our desire to gamble, we are allowing gambling to wreck our lives when, in reality, gambling itself isn't harmful—it's how we utilize it improperly.

[maydna]

~snip~

Only gambling addicts understand the feeling aka adrenaline rush after huge wins and our brain look for same taste after playing casino games. We keep looking for dopamine no matter it happens on huge slot multipliers or on original house games, some guys don't even respect their red line and keep depositing to win back losses. Only small portion of gambling addicts get back what they lost btw, sad but true.

Gambling addicts who have won big want to get the next win, so they will continue to gamble and perhaps use even more money to gamble. This has happened many times, and I suspect there must be a lot of gambling addicts who have lost money even though they managed to win a large amount of money from the casino. We can't always win from the casinos because, after all, the casinos are the business owners and the real winners.

~snip~

Addiction? Who's got time for that? Keep rollin' till the money stacks up, right?   

That's what gambling's all about, no? Jokes aside, though, gambling addiction ain't a laughing matter. Starts off innocent enough – just killing time, then bam! You're tossing your life's worth at a one-armed bandit, praying for a windfall. So take it from our pal here, know when to bow out. Better to pocket some change than end up penniless and hooked on the gamble.

People who cannot restrain themselves from gambling and instead allow themselves to be further immersed in gambling become gambling addicts. But they can't accumulate their money because they have to face defeat that can come at any time.

Gambling can make our lives ruined, and we have nothing left. We are better off making gambling a tool for fun than using gambling to make money. That can't happen, especially if we only play luck-based gambling. But it will come back to each gambler.

An addiction to gambling is a sign of fragility. Uncontrollable gambling urges are a sign that someone can no longer discipline and control themselves, and they may also indicate a mental illness that requires medical attention.
Putting the lives of our loved ones or family members in jeopardy is already the worst thing that we might do as a result of gambling since whenever a person risks money or even puts his essential asset at risk despite the repercussions, that is an indication that he is into impulsive addiction.
We are always recommended to get assistance as soon as we start to exhibit symptoms of gambling addiction. We shouldn't put off gambling until we are in a situation where we would be breaking the law. When we give in to our desire to gamble, we are allowing gambling to wreck our lives when, in reality, gambling itself isn't harmful—it's how we utilize it improperly.

A gambling addict will not be able to recognize if he has a gambling addiction, and even if someone warns him about the dangers of gambling addiction, he will not care about it and will say that he is fine. But as one of his family, we must constantly remind him and even make it clear that he has a gambling addiction. It was to make him realize that he was having a gambling addiction problem and needed to be cured immediately.

Only with the help of the people closest to him and self-awareness can make him want to cure his gambling addiction. And by taking him to a psychiatrist or someone who can heal what we can do and stay with him during the healing period. After he can recover, we also have to stay with him, and maybe we can also do something positive so that he can completely recover from his gambling addiction.

[Tumanggor]

A gambling addict will not be able to recognize if he has a gambling addiction, and even if someone warns him about the dangers of gambling addiction, he will not care about it and will say that he is fine. But as one of his family, we must constantly remind him and even make it clear that he has a gambling addiction. It was to make him realize that he was having a gambling addiction problem and needed to be cured immediately.

Only with the help of the people closest to him and self-awareness can make him want to cure his gambling addiction. And by taking him to a psychiatrist or someone who can heal what we can do and stay with him during the healing period. After he can recover, we also have to stay with him, and maybe we can also do something positive so that he can completely recover from his gambling addiction.

it's like that, gambling addicts don't want to be called addicts and even they tend to get angry if someone else calls them gambling addicts but I'm not sure the families of suspected gambling addicts don't warn them about the bad activities they are doing, they are tired give warnings and advice for sure

The role of the family is very important in the process of identifying a gambling addict, but the role of the government should be more swift in identifying people who tend to lead to gambling addiction so that criminal acts such as kidnapping or other things can be avoided early on

[madnessteat]

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As I understand it, few countries are really interested in identifying people dangerous to society at an early stage. More to the point, they are not even interested in reducing the number of gambling addicts. Everything the authorities do is in one way or another about increasing the level of control over the citizens. Everything else is just for show. That is why close people are the only ones who can help to identify gambling addiction at an early stage and help a gambler to overcome it.

[Lanatsa]

A gambling addict will not be able to recognize if he has a gambling addiction, and even if someone warns him about the dangers of gambling addiction, he will not care about it and will say that he is fine. But as one of his family, we must constantly remind him and even make it clear that he has a gambling addiction. It was to make him realize that he was having a gambling addiction problem and needed to be cured immediately.

Only with the help of the people closest to him and self-awareness can make him want to cure his gambling addiction. And by taking him to a psychiatrist or someone who can heal what we can do and stay with him during the healing period. After he can recover, we also have to stay with him, and maybe we can also do something positive so that he can completely recover from his gambling addiction.

it's like that, gambling addicts don't want to be called addicts and even they tend to get angry if someone else calls them gambling addicts but I'm not sure the families of suspected gambling addicts don't warn them about the bad activities they are doing, they are tired give warnings and advice for sure

The role of the family is very important in the process of identifying a gambling addict, but the role of the government should be more swift in identifying people who tend to lead to gambling addiction so that criminal acts such as kidnapping or other things can be avoided early on

Denial would really be there no matter what and there's nothing we can do but not to make out argumentation when it comes to this. We can call them addicts which is really that obvious but they are the ones who would really be just continuing on what they do really want to do.Well its their money to be spend out but on the time that addiction kicks in then that kind of urge for you to play gambling will really be on that extreme extent on which it would really be making out decisions which we dont or even cant believe that someone would really go that far.

This doesnt only limit out on gambling addiction but also into other addiction as well on which on the time that there's no money that you could really be able to make use of and this is where
these kind of thinking would kick in. Its mad and something that impossible for a human to do so but well when desperation kicks in and you are really that badly wants to play
then you would really be going into that criminal thinking type of option which its not really that good at all. You are really putting anyone at danger and putting
up your life in a mess.

[AmoreJaz]

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As I understand it, few countries are really interested in identifying people dangerous to society at an early stage. More to the point, they are not even interested in reducing the number of gambling addicts. Everything the authorities do is in one way or another about increasing the level of control over the citizens. Everything else is just for show. That is why close people are the only ones who can help to identify gambling addiction at an early stage and help a gambler to overcome it.

the government is not responsible on what you might want to do with your life. so yeah, the help may not be sufficient but do you really think the government or authorities has the final say on what may happen to your life? i don't think so. so it is the person's responsibility to seek help if he thinks he's on the brink of losing himself because of addiction. the government can't take care of your own life. because if they do have this kind of responsibility, just think of the overwhelming numbers they need to look at. why give to the authorities such power on your life when in fact it is you who should be held accountable to your actions?

[rahmad2nd]

I think gambling is better to quit if you can't control it by gambling he lost hundreds of times more money than he won. Gambling is an addiction in which you will always be in a daze, you will feel like playing this one more time, taking the profit, and not playing again. Then when you win you will say let's play for the last time when you lose everything while playing for the last time you will say, I will take the original and resign from gambling. Then that last time will leave you destitute.

Of the many stories about the madness of gambling addicts. I think, which has an impact on criminal activity less than people who are addicted to drugs. in fact, not infrequently, drug addicts crazier than gambling addicts. but basically, both of them are addicts even though in different cases.

Well, referring to what you said. the thing is, it's not as easy as what we're talking about. in practice, easier said than done and that is a fact. So, that's not the right approach. what you say, it seems, is your personal experience. because, you really know how people who have a tendency to be addicted to gambling. basically, everything comes back to each of us. after all, we have complete control over what we want.

The problem is, how not to become an addict but still be able to enjoy gambling as an activity that is entertaining and gives pleasure. or as you say, it all depends on the level of awareness of each of us and how to cultivate it. point, be responsible. by understanding and having responsibility, one will have self-control. that way, you, me, we, won't get stuck like you said in this post.