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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2Fgj8hcRcB%2Farsenal-cl-history.png&t=665&c=GyUJGFqij5WpWQ) This is Arsenal's most recent history in the Champions League. It is really interesting that they were a part of the tournament eight seasons in a row in these years. They were doing quite well too. But since the 2016/2017 season we haven't seen Arsenal joining the tournament even for once. This is a significant downgrade for them of course. But finally after all these years they had a wonderful season with Arteta and played even for the EPL championship. Maybe they couldn't become the champions but got a ticket for the Champions League by finishing in 2nd place. What do you think about Arsenal here? They are still a really young team so it is quite hard to predict them. When we talk about Arsenal, I always think of their unforgettable Champions League final against Barcelona and the unfortunate defeat. In fact, it is incomprehensible to me that such a big club, like Arsenal, has never been the champion of Europe. At one point, last season, I honestly believed that Arsenal could surprise Manchester City and become the champion of England, but it still didn't happen. As for the Champions League this season, Arsenal definitely have the quality to progress to the knockout stages of the Champions League, but after that a lot will depend on the draw. I don't think they have enough experience yet to win the Champions League.
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July 05, 2023, 12:36:17 PM |
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It is difficult to give predictions in a transfer period that has not yet ended. But under the same conditions I would indeed choose Man City. Statistically at the moment indeed Man City still looks convincing. As for Bayern Munich, I still have doubts about the current situation. They were unstable at the end of the season because of the change of coach. As for Inter, even though they are Runer Up this year I did not include them in the list of favorite teams. But I am aware there will be many surprises that are beyond reason as Inter experienced this year going into the Final.
Indeed, we cannot predict the favorite team to win the Champions League for the next season. because this is still in the qualifying phase has not entered the division of the Group. But by referring to the transfer market for each club, we can see where the seriousness of these teams is in preparing the squad for next season. Man City, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Munich are still most people's favorites. That's natural considering they have a wealth of experience and quality players plus being led by a top coach. They are regulars and take turns dominating the Champions League, but teams like Inter Milan, Arsenal and PSG also deserve to be champions and deserve to be reckoned with next season. Who would have thought last season that it would be Man City and Inter Milan who made it to the Finals. No one would dare to include Inter Milan's name on the list, in fact they almost won the Champions League last season.
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July 05, 2023, 12:39:44 PM |
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It's based on other's opinion. I prefer to replace PSG with real madrid. Bayern must also be placed under real madrid. I do know that the leave from benzema has been decreasing confidence from people to pick madrid as favorite club to win the league. In my opinion if we are also missing, serie a club from the list. I will prefer to put intermilan on the list but that' based on the bookmakers' favorite list.
It is difficult to give predictions in a transfer period that has not yet ended. But under the same conditions I would indeed choose Man City. Statistically at the moment indeed Man City still looks convincing. As for Bayern Munich, I still have doubts about the current situation. They were unstable at the end of the season because of the change of coach. As for Inter, even though they are Runer Up this year I did not include them in the list of favorite teams. But I am aware there will be many surprises that are beyond reason as Inter experienced this year going into the Final. I agree for a second that the answer is Man City and it's about another club that might need a major overhaul and that doesn't necessarily guarantee anything. So I'm optimistic there will be surprises like last season Inter became the club that qualified for the Final against Man City which we didn't expect at all. Even though there are many strong competitors such as Napoli, PSG, Bayern Munich, and Madrid. Fate on the one hand shows that Inter is ahead. Now for next season, because of the addition of clubs like Arsenal, Man United, and Newcastle, I'm sure the three of them can still qualify for the group phase later when they are already playing in the Champions League.
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July 05, 2023, 01:57:34 PM |
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I agree for a second that the answer is Man City and it's about another club that might need a major overhaul and that doesn't necessarily guarantee anything. So I'm optimistic there will be surprises like last season Inter became the club that qualified for the Final against Man City which we didn't expect at all. Even though there are many strong competitors such as Napoli, PSG, Bayern Munich, and Madrid.
Manchester City have good foundation as they will be a trophy holder in 2023 - 2024 season but to protect the crown, they will have to beat many competitors. I am sure clubs like Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and PSG will not stay silent and let Manchester City easily protect their trophy. They will be more actively after a failed season and it will bring more pressure on Manchester City. Napoli will have less chance to repeat their past successful season as Kim Min Jae left and Osimhen, Kravatskhelia might leave their club too. Fate on the one hand shows that Inter is ahead. Now for next season, because of the addition of clubs like Arsenal, Man United, and Newcastle, I'm sure the three of them can still qualify for the group phase later when they are already playing in the Champions League.
Arsenal, Manchester United and Newcastle United will not likely gain success in a first season in Champions League after many years. Like Inter Milan, AC Milan needed two to three seasons to have good performances in the last season.
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July 05, 2023, 02:25:06 PM |
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I don't think any team will take this UEFA champions league title from Manchester city next season, because their coach is very ready to introduce more skills that will make the players improve more in a way they can do better than this season. Many teams are busy using this summer to bring some new players into their team so that they will be able to withstand Manchester city and other strong teams next season, but it will be difficult for Manchester city to experience poor performance like what Chelsea and other teams experienced through out this season. Since the Manchester coach is planning to bring in a potential defender in this summer, I believe they will not experience any mistakes from that defense because that is their major challenge.
It must be admitted that there is no other team that can interfere with Manchester City in being able to defend the Champions League title next season, but it's just that every competing team is now also doing the same thing as Manchester City is doing, from improving strategy to bringing in several other great players to strengthen main squad in next season's competition. I don't think Manchester City can be compared to Chelsea, which has been more devastated since the start of last season and even though Chelsea were able to get rid of Dortmund at that time, it was only temporary luck. Maybe you mean Gvardiol, who is currently being targeted by Manchester City and Pep Guardiola's choice for a defender, is indeed very good and I think he will be able to quickly adapt to the style of play that is carried out by Pep Guardiola later. Pep Guardiola can always get the players he wants, of course, to make Manchester City much better than last season, even though last season Manchester City can get a treble winner, at least next season Manchester City can win the UCL again next season with the composition of the new players that have been selected. by Guardiola to fill a void in the main squad of manchester city. I think Guardiola will find players who certainly have the potential to bring Manchester City back to win the treble winner next season, although I'm still a little worried about Madrid who might bring Mbappe to Madrid next season which will be a tough challenge for Manchester City in UCL next season. but whatever it is, I can't wait for the domestic league to start again. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) So far, the only players Manchester City have managed to bring in are Kovacic and the rest are apparently still awaiting the negotiation process. We know that every season Manchester City always chases the major title as the club's achievement and last season no one really thought they could win the treble winner. In the next season it is likely that it will be difficult for Manchester City to go through and therefore they must continue to emphasize new strategies for their players to be able to defend the title, especially the Champions League. Real Madrid is still the main competitor for Manchester City to fight for the Champions League title next season and there are still rumors regarding Mbappe, but in my opinion, without Mbappe at Real Madrid, they can still threaten Manchester City with the current squad. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Maybe there were no "decisive" mistakes against Real, since Real turned all the mistakes against themselves into insignificant by winning with a convincing score? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Believe me, I am very familiar with the topic of refereeing mistakes (opinions of various fan bases), I know such terms as Evrebelona ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) and others, but I see no reason to discuss all this - mistakes and even conspiracies are part of football. And in this imperfect football, Zidane won the Champions League three times in a row. When someone appears who can repeat this, it will be possible to compare their “purity” or some other secondary indicators, but now Zidane is one and this is a great achievement that cannot be underestimated. I am not talking from the perspective of a particular fan base. I am talking as someone who understands rules in soccer, playing myself and watching the games. I have nothing against Real Madrid, I admire their midfield and the various individual players for their achievements like Ronaldo and many others. But the video I shared really is showing horrible referee decisions. More horrible than I have seen for any other club to have been lucky due to wrong or bad referee decisions. That video is insane. i think it is superficial to say that a goal is a goal when the referee awards it. When a goal is scored against the rules and decides a game like a final in some of the most important competitions, it is wrong. It is not fate, it is wrong. In a league luck usually evens out over the course of a season, in World Cups and Champions League games it often doesn't. You are trying to reduce everything to individual episodes (mistakes happen everywhere and against everyone), and I am trying to talk about larger things. If you are not a supporter of conspiracy theories, then you must agree that mistakes are everywhere and that well done who, firstly, was able to take advantage of them, and secondly, created those potential opportunities where they arose - after all, if Real Madrid had not attacked, then 100% there would be no those errors. But Real attacked and looked for their chances. The World Cup and Champions League have more variance (and more error impact) as they are short tournaments with a playoff stage, but things even out in the long run.
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Even if Bayern Munich manage to get a powerful scoring striker, let it be Kane, it still will not automatically make the club a favorite for the upcoming Champions League draw. The results and the game of Bavaria after Tuchel's arrival have not impressed me personally yet, but we will still take into account that Tuchel came to the team formed by Nagelsman during the season. Perhaps in the course of this season we will see the contours of the team already by Tuchel, who will reformat it to suit his coaching views.
Everyone will see how Tuchel performs next season at Bayern Munich, because in the previous season Tuchel had little time to make Bayern Munich more successful in the Champions League even though the team he coached was a team that had been well formed by Nagelsman. But Tuchel still needs time to apply his tactics to the existing players and also to the new players they get in the transfer market now next season.
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Even if Bayern Munich manage to get a powerful scoring striker, let it be Kane, it still will not automatically make the club a favorite for the upcoming Champions League draw. The results and the game of Bavaria after Tuchel's arrival have not impressed me personally yet, but we will still take into account that Tuchel came to the team formed by Nagelsman during the season. Perhaps in the course of this season we will see the contours of the team already by Tuchel, who will reformat it to suit his coaching views.
Everyone will see how Tuchel performs next season at Bayern Munich, because in the previous season Tuchel had little time to make Bayern Munich more successful in the Champions League even though the team he coached was a team that had been well formed by Nagelsman. But Tuchel still needs time to apply his tactics to the existing players and also to the new players they get in the transfer market now next season. So, of course, we can't underestimate Tuchel for next season because after all, Tuchel also only got a few matches in the previous season because he came on to replace Nagelsmann. Anyway, I personally still believe that Tuchel will be able to make Bayern Munich better than when Bayern Munich was coached by Nagelsmann. But indeed, if we consider Bayern Munich's performance and match results in the Champions League, at least we will not be able to ensure Bayern Munich has a good chance of reaching the final. But I think this factor also applies not only to Bayern Munich but also to all teams because yes, the Champions League is a difficult competition and there is no guarantee that even the big clubs can achieve good results in this Champions League.
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July 05, 2023, 03:37:11 PM |
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Real Madrid is still the main competitor for Manchester City to fight for the Champions League title next season and there are still rumors regarding Mbappe, but in my opinion, without Mbappe at Real Madrid, they can still threaten Manchester City with the current squad. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Real Madrid is not the only team that can win the champions league next season from Manchester City. Many teams are preparing for this competition and are beefing up their team already. See Barcelona for example, they have brought good players to their team, and next season they will also have a good chance if Gundogan and Lewandoski can form a good understanding. So far, the only players Manchester City have managed to bring in are Kovacic and the rest are apparently still awaiting the negotiation process. We know that every season Manchester City always chases the major title as the club's achievement and last season no one really thought they could win the treble winner.
Manchester city have many players in their reserve that can take up these positions that the players who have left left, they have many talented players and even if they are only able to sign Kovacic, they will still play well.
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July 05, 2023, 04:37:34 PM |
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I don't think any team will take this UEFA champions league title from Manchester city next season, because their coach is very ready to introduce more skills that will make the players improve more in a way they can do better than this season. Many teams are busy using this summer to bring some new players into their team so that they will be able to withstand Manchester city and other strong teams next season, but it will be difficult for Manchester city to experience poor performance like what Chelsea and other teams experienced through out this season. Since the Manchester coach is planning to bring in a potential defender in this summer, I believe they will not experience any mistakes from that defense because that is their major challenge.
The Pre match has not even come yet. How can we sure if another team gonna take UCL trophy from city? We shall at least try to see the performances from EPL clubs in the domestic league before we will able to determine which club that's potentially grabbing city's ucl trophy next season. So many clubs will be coming with new faces even some did overhaul to their clubs as well. City is only having a small chance that happened in the club. Chelsea will not play in UCL next season and it could not be counted. Gvardiol's deal is still on the way. I think city gonna make an official announcement regarding him as soon as possible. It's very easy for manchester city to buy him by triggering his release clause.
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July 05, 2023, 04:51:58 PM |
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It's based on other's opinion. I prefer to replace PSG with real madrid. Bayern must also be placed under real madrid. I do know that the leave from benzema has been decreasing confidence from people to pick madrid as favorite club to win the league. In my opinion if we are also missing, serie a club from the list. I will prefer to put intermilan on the list but that' based on the bookmakers' favorite list.
It is difficult to give predictions in a transfer period that has not yet ended. But under the same conditions I would indeed choose Man City. Statistically at the moment indeed Man City still looks convincing. As for Bayern Munich, I still have doubts about the current situation. They were unstable at the end of the season because of the change of coach. As for Inter, even though they are Runer Up this year I did not include them in the list of favorite teams. But I am aware there will be many surprises that are beyond reason as Inter experienced this year going into the Final. I don't think that Man City will be able to win UCL back to back because this is their first time that they won it due to luck on their side. So many clubs are also ready for this league next season and I believe that Barca is also a strong club that we should watch out for. Madrid is not left out likewise Inter. I don't know why people are forgetting to mention Inter who was second this past season. Man city have have overhaul but wouldn't be able to do it again. It is until the league starts that we can start to see the performance of these clubs and from there it will be easy to predict the next UCL winner
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It is difficult to give predictions in a transfer period that has not yet ended. But under the same conditions I would indeed choose Man City. Statistically at the moment indeed Man City still looks convincing. As for Bayern Munich, I still have doubts about the current situation. They were unstable at the end of the season because of the change of coach. As for Inter, even though they are Runer Up this year I did not include them in the list of favorite teams. But I am aware there will be many surprises that are beyond reason as Inter experienced this year going into the Final. Inter can be expected to be one of the favourites, but it may not be as strong as Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Real Madrid and several other top teams. Everything still depends on who will be their opponent in the group, so it is still very difficult to predict. Manchester City, PSG, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid are the 4 undoubted favorites at the moment, but other teams will also be playing for the same objective in the Champions League. It will really be a very big history if Pep Guardiola is really able to defend the Champions League title with Manchester City next season. But I would doubt that.
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Maybe there were no "decisive" mistakes against Real, since Real turned all the mistakes against themselves into insignificant by winning with a convincing score? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Believe me, I am very familiar with the topic of refereeing mistakes (opinions of various fan bases), I know such terms as Evrebelona ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) and others, but I see no reason to discuss all this - mistakes and even conspiracies are part of football. And in this imperfect football, Zidane won the Champions League three times in a row. When someone appears who can repeat this, it will be possible to compare their “purity” or some other secondary indicators, but now Zidane is one and this is a great achievement that cannot be underestimated. I am not talking from the perspective of a particular fan base. I am talking as someone who understands rules in soccer, playing myself and watching the games. I have nothing against Real Madrid, I admire their midfield and the various individual players for their achievements like Ronaldo and many others. But the video I shared really is showing horrible referee decisions. More horrible than I have seen for any other club to have been lucky due to wrong or bad referee decisions. That video is insane. i think it is superficial to say that a goal is a goal when the referee awards it. When a goal is scored against the rules and decides a game like a final in some of the most important competitions, it is wrong. It is not fate, it is wrong. In a league luck usually evens out over the course of a season, in World Cups and Champions League games it often doesn't. You are trying to reduce everything to individual episodes (mistakes happen everywhere and against everyone), and I am trying to talk about larger things. If you are not a supporter of conspiracy theories, then you must agree that mistakes are everywhere and that well done who, firstly, was able to take advantage of them, and secondly, created those potential opportunities where they arose - after all, if Real Madrid had not attacked, then 100% there would be no those errors. But Real attacked and looked for their chances. The World Cup and Champions League have more variance (and more error impact) as they are short tournaments with a playoff stage, but things even out in the long run. You can have your opinion, and that is totally fine, but if we want sports to "may the best win", we need the hawk eye in tennis and the VAR in soccer. The reason is simple because the better the players, the less accurate can referees be. If a player touches the line in tennis dozens of times during a match (and this is what we all want, the maximum limit in quality), a referee will need assistance to make the right decisions. Here we are talking about defending three titles in a row and you can say whatever you want, but this streak of errors being decided in favor of Real Madrid is unprecedented in my opinion and it is not issue if we are talking about a wrong corner or throw in, but we are talking about offside goals, red cards and brutal injuries when Ramos took Salah down like a wrestler. If you call wrestling in soccer "a potential opportunity", so be it. I call an offside goal an offside goal and a red card a red card. It is pretty well known that Casemiro, Pepe and Ramos are among the most brutal players out there. Genius and brutal at the same time.
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July 05, 2023, 06:19:11 PM |
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Everyone will see how Tuchel performs next season at Bayern Munich, because in the previous season Tuchel had little time to make Bayern Munich more successful in the Champions League even though the team he coached was a team that had been well formed by Nagelsman. But Tuchel still needs time to apply his tactics to the existing players and also to the new players they get in the transfer market now next season. Nobody expected him to win the Champions League title with Bayern Munich last season, that was due to the lack of time he got while replacing the old coach. Thomas Tuchel will experiment with his strategy next season in the Champions League and other competitions, but I can't say they will be able to reach the Champions League final without really quality players. Real Madrid will still be ahead as the favourites, then Manchester City will follow as the defending champions. While Bayern Munich and other teams will be a challenging team to try to do their best to compete for the title, but then again, Bayern Munich will not be highly favored.
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July 05, 2023, 06:26:05 PM |
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Inter can be expected to be one of the favourites, but it may not be as strong as Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Real Madrid and several other top teams. Everything still depends on who will be their opponent in the group, so it is still very difficult to predict.
Manchester City, PSG, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid are the 4 undoubted favorites at the moment, but other teams will also be playing for the same objective in the Champions League. It will really be a very big history if Pep Guardiola is really able to defend the Champions League title with Manchester City next season. But I would doubt that.
Being in a group with other favorite teams will certainly complicate the steps from the start, I totally agree with your opinion, if it really happened it would be terrible. This means that the possibility of going home or dropping early has a very large chance. PSG in my opinion is the most ambitious club for next season's Champions League, and deserves to be included in the list of favorites to win next season, considering that the squad they have is the best players and coach Luis Enrique is also quite good. It looks like Pep will be very difficult to maintain and repeat his achievements like last season when he won the treble winner. At least in the last decade only Madrid have been able to do it by winning the Champions League in a row. Manchester City, PSG, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid are indeed the four teams that have always been more dominant in the Champions League, but Barcelona seems worthy of being on the list of challengers for next season's championship considering that they have improved under Xavi tutelage.
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July 05, 2023, 06:27:17 PM |
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~snip~ It's based on other's opinion. I prefer to replace PSG with real madrid. Bayern must also be placed under real madrid. I do know that the leave from benzema has been decreasing confidence from people to pick madrid as favorite club to win the league. In my opinion if we are also missing, serie a club from the list. I will prefer to put intermilan on the list but that' based on the bookmakers' favorite list.
It is difficult to give predictions in a transfer period that has not yet ended. But under the same conditions I would indeed choose Man City. Statistically at the moment indeed Man City still looks convincing. As for Bayern Munich, I still have doubts about the current situation. They were unstable at the end of the season because of the change of coach. As for Inter, even though they are Runer Up this year I did not include them in the list of favorite teams. But I am aware there will be many surprises that are beyond reason as Inter experienced this year going into the Final. I consider Manchester City to be favorites. There have been a lot of changes within all the big and renowned teams. Only Manchester City hasn't changed much. They lost Gundogan. But Guardiola won't have too much trouble finding a suitable replacement for Gundogan. Real Madrid and PSG, on the other hand, have lost the best strikers in their squads. Bayern Munich's situation is not stable yet. And so till now, the Manchester City team is in the best position.
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July 05, 2023, 07:30:01 PM |
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~snip~ It's based on other's opinion. I prefer to replace PSG with real madrid. Bayern must also be placed under real madrid. I do know that the leave from benzema has been decreasing confidence from people to pick madrid as favorite club to win the league. In my opinion if we are also missing, serie a club from the list. I will prefer to put intermilan on the list but that' based on the bookmakers' favorite list.
It is difficult to give predictions in a transfer period that has not yet ended. But under the same conditions I would indeed choose Man City. Statistically at the moment indeed Man City still looks convincing. As for Bayern Munich, I still have doubts about the current situation. They were unstable at the end of the season because of the change of coach. As for Inter, even though they are Runer Up this year I did not include them in the list of favorite teams. But I am aware there will be many surprises that are beyond reason as Inter experienced this year going into the Final. I consider Manchester City to be favorites. There have been a lot of changes within all the big and renowned teams. Only Manchester City hasn't changed much. They lost Gundogan. But Guardiola won't have too much trouble finding a suitable replacement for Gundogan. Real Madrid and PSG, on the other hand, have lost the best strikers in their squads. Bayern Munich's situation is not stable yet. And so till now, the Manchester City team is in the best position. From the statistics of the players that Manchester city has, it is indeed far superior to other big clubs, as you said, because there have been many changes in players at Real madrid, Bayern Munich and PSG. In contrast to Manchester city which already has permanent players without the need for other reliable players and quite a few players for defense. I'm not surprised if it's true that this season and next season will belong to Manchester city.
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July 05, 2023, 08:00:13 PM |
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Inter can be expected to be one of the favourites, but it may not be as strong as Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Real Madrid and several other top teams. Everything still depends on who will be their opponent in the group, so it is still very difficult to predict.
Manchester City, PSG, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid are the 4 undoubted favorites at the moment, but other teams will also be playing for the same objective in the Champions League. It will really be a very big history if Pep Guardiola is really able to defend the Champions League title with Manchester City next season. But I would doubt that.
I would never put Inter among any kind of favourite teams in the Champions League. Yeah I must admit that they did a really good work by making it to the finale this season. But this isn't the kind of a success they achieve much often. Inter were way better than this in the Champions League in the past. But now we rarely see them at this level. 2000s and 2010s were the best time periods in which Inter were quite impressive in this tournament. To reach that level they need to work harder. Of course they don't put a main goal for themselves like they will make it to the finale or achieve a close success to that. They just want to enjoy their game and do the best they can. Besides they didn't come across a favourite like Manchester City until facing them after the group stage. Maybe they would have been eliminated earlier in that case.
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July 05, 2023, 08:37:25 PM |
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~snip~ It's based on other's opinion. I prefer to replace PSG with real madrid. Bayern must also be placed under real madrid. I do know that the leave from benzema has been decreasing confidence from people to pick madrid as favorite club to win the league. In my opinion if we are also missing, serie a club from the list. I will prefer to put intermilan on the list but that' based on the bookmakers' favorite list.
It is difficult to give predictions in a transfer period that has not yet ended. But under the same conditions I would indeed choose Man City. Statistically at the moment indeed Man City still looks convincing. As for Bayern Munich, I still have doubts about the current situation. They were unstable at the end of the season because of the change of coach. As for Inter, even though they are Runer Up this year I did not include them in the list of favorite teams. But I am aware there will be many surprises that are beyond reason as Inter experienced this year going into the Final. I consider Manchester City to be favorites. There have been a lot of changes within all the big and renowned teams. Only Manchester City hasn't changed much. They lost Gundogan. But Guardiola won't have too much trouble finding a suitable replacement for Gundogan. Real Madrid and PSG, on the other hand, have lost the best strikers in their squads. Bayern Munich's situation is not stable yet. And so till now, the Manchester City team is in the best position. Manchester city simply took advantage of other teams lapses to secure their champions league victory. Am very sure if Haaland were to leave come next season, that the team would find it hard to even remain top 3 on their English league. I consider Real Madrid a very good contender and Barca too. Inter Milan just don't have the tenacity to win the league against a side like Manchester city. The winnings too also depends of the technical prowess of the manager, no doubt.
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July 05, 2023, 08:58:06 PM |
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~snip~ It's based on other's opinion. I prefer to replace PSG with real madrid. Bayern must also be placed under real madrid. I do know that the leave from benzema has been decreasing confidence from people to pick madrid as favorite club to win the league. In my opinion if we are also missing, serie a club from the list. I will prefer to put intermilan on the list but that' based on the bookmakers' favorite list.
It is difficult to give predictions in a transfer period that has not yet ended. But under the same conditions I would indeed choose Man City. Statistically at the moment indeed Man City still looks convincing. As for Bayern Munich, I still have doubts about the current situation. They were unstable at the end of the season because of the change of coach. As for Inter, even though they are Runer Up this year I did not include them in the list of favorite teams. But I am aware there will be many surprises that are beyond reason as Inter experienced this year going into the Final. I consider Manchester City to be favorites. There have been a lot of changes within all the big and renowned teams. Only Manchester City hasn't changed much. They lost Gundogan. But Guardiola won't have too much trouble finding a suitable replacement for Gundogan. Real Madrid and PSG, on the other hand, have lost the best strikers in their squads. Bayern Munich's situation is not stable yet. And so till now, the Manchester City team is in the best position. Manchester city simply took advantage of other teams lapses to secure their champions league victory. Am very sure if Haaland were to leave come next season, that the team would find it hard to even remain top 3 on their English league. I consider Real Madrid a very good contender and Barca too. Inter Milan just don't have the tenacity to win the league against a side like Manchester city. The winnings too also depends of the technical prowess of the manager, no doubt. Why do you say this? Manchester city has been a top three contender ever since without haaland both in their league and also in the champions league for some time now or have you forgotten that they actually played a champions league final with Chelsea which they unluckily lost. But no doubt haaland improved their strength for the title but they were already a too team and I still believe they do well even if they lost haaland, guardiola is a good coach and he will probably find some other player to fill in his shoes.
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