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July 07, 2023, 02:15:14 PM |
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Psg is a quality team that can still win the French League 1. They may not win the UCL because their biggest strength left the team. Of course, Messi's departure hurt the team more. It was also a psychological force for them. Now it will be important for them to fill their place. Osimhen could be a good alternative.
Messi's departure will indeed have an effect on the strength of the team at PSG, but the position left by Messi could have been filled by another player even though his talent is not the same as Messi's. Osimhen can indeed be the right alternative for PSG, but the price must also be reasonable because I don't think that Napoli will let Osimhen go for a very cheap price, especially since he was able to make quite good achievements in Serie A last season.
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Leviathan.007
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July 07, 2023, 02:25:15 PM |
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In the next season, Napoli will have less chance compared to the Napoli we saw in the last season mostly because they are going to lose some players and they lose their coach --
In terms of players, I think as long as the club can still maintain its main players, the impact will not be too big We still don't know the performance of Rudi Garcia, Napoli's new coach in manage the team, especially with the club's ambition to conquer the Champions League. We don't know yet if Garcia can handle Napoli better than Luciano Spalletti When Napoli last season had a very good performance in Serie A but in fact, Napoli could not play well in the Champions League either. With this factor, if next season Napoli does not have the same good performance as last season, then i believe Napoli will not be able to play well in the Champions League next season. It doesn't matter about Napoli's main players, because even if Napoli's main players are still playing at Napoli for next season, it still won't guarantee Napoli has a performance with the same stability as last season. So yes, to conclude i am not sure for Napoli in the next season for the results in the Champions League, because it seems that to maintain the scudetto is also difficult for Napoli to maintain. Napol had good performances in Serie A and one good reason for these results he got was mostly because of bad and unstable performances from other teams, also Napoli said the champions league because they didn't have Osimhen helping their team like they had before. That's why I don't even expect to see him achieve anything in the next champions league with their new coach. Napoli won the league cup last year after a tremendous season. But they are not strong enough to compete for the Champions League. I am hearing rumors that osimhen is going to PSG, but I don't know if it is true, but it will be difficult for Napoli to sell Vitor osimhen, who is a good striker that any club would like to have. I would like an English club to negotiate with Napoli's player osimhen. Sigh for any Premier League team that will give him another trophy, is a striker who can score in every situation.is one of the best strikers in the world, but signing him will be difficult because Napoli do not want to sell him at the moment.
In fact, Paris Saint Germain is a dangerous competitor for any potential buyer. After Mbappe's supposed departure, the club can behave much more aggressively in the market. Another question is that I think Viktor Osimhen himself is not ready to leave Napoli yet. However, it all depends on the amount of money. Many people change their minds because of this ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Well if Mbappe leaves PSG that i think would be it for them. They for me wouldnt have any chance of winning the champions league at all,plus i think they might no even win the french league aswell. Osimhen would be an amazing transfer but still that wouldnt be enough to make their season a success. Psg is a quality team that can still win the French League 1. They may not win the UCL because their biggest strength left the team. Of course, Messi's departure hurt the team more. It was also a psychological force for them. Now it will be important for them to fill their place. Osimhen could be a good alternative. Paris Saint Germain got enough money to make stronger teams than even what we saw in the last season, they started working with Enrique recently and we know this coach knows the way to win the champions league however we are still waiting for Enrique to give the list of the players he needs for the next season and PSG start buying to rebuild the teams for the next season.
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Jody.Drummer
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July 07, 2023, 03:00:49 PM |
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The next Champions League can be very much to predict but still, Real Madrid is one good chance of winning the title because they are spending lots of money to hire the best players they can hire and Real Madrid is still waiting and hoping to hire Mbappe for the next season which can make this team very dangerous for any other team. On the other hand, Manchester City is going to continue the good perforate we saw from them in the next season and they will be the most important opponent for Real Madrid.
if the teams get stronger it means they will play a better game and if they play a better game, the matches will be more beautiful and fun ultimately this interests me personally I pay the ticket (virtual on tv) to have fun That's what we expect and want to see of course. All clubs are improving to make the competition even more interesting. But I will feel a little sad now, because in the Champions League next season we will be left with many senior players who we usually always see in Champions League matches. Let's call Cristiano Ronaldo who broke many records in the Champions League and even today he still holds that record, yes he left the Champions League first when he joined the Arab club. And as we saw this season a lot of players went to the Arab League and that also ensures we will not see them in the Champions League next season. I think it'll be too early to predict which club that'll lift the UEFA Champions League competition next season judging by the kind of quality players that most of the European heavyweights are adding to their side this summer. Manchester City and Real Madrid are the two clubs I think will surely make it to the semi finals and that's because the two clubs has player's that are capable enough to make it happen. Surely there'll be a surprise team of the competition come next season which will also be very interesting to watch It's not too early to predict that, because some of the club names that will compete in the Champions League are regulars and most of them are clubs that are used to reaching the quarterfinals at least. I personally look forward to surprises from clubs that are considered as dark horse clubs, there are many club names and it is difficult to predict because there are some clubs that are not too often in the Champions League can actually speak a lot there. Psg is a quality team that can still win the French League 1. They may not win the UCL because their biggest strength left the team. Of course, Messi's departure hurt the team more. It was also a psychological force for them. Now it will be important for them to fill their place. Osimhen could be a good alternative.
Messi's departure will indeed have an effect on the strength of the team at PSG, but the position left by Messi could have been filled by another player even though his talent is not the same as Messi's. Osimhen can indeed be the right alternative for PSG, but the price must also be reasonable because I don't think that Napoli will let Osimhen go for a very cheap price, especially since he was able to make quite good achievements in Serie A last season. For a big team like them, losing players should not affect their game. But we're talking about Paris Saint Germain here, who are a rich club, but don't know how to utilize their excess money. In the end, they're just an average club, especially in the Champions League. How can a club with such internal problems bring out the best in them.
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July 07, 2023, 03:28:07 PM |
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Erling Haaland gave Manchester City an edge, but of it had not been for the support from those player's, he wouldn't have scored so much goals, and if you chech, most of em are completely tap in goals. He wouldn't have been able to create so much chances for himself alone.
Manchester City really play football like a machine. Gabriel Jesus had good statistics in this team. Sergio Agüero had good statistics in this team. Ilkay played in this region when the forwards were injured and got good statistics. Manchester City are playing with a tactic with a machine setup. No matter who you put forward in this team, they will have good statistics. Of course, Haaland is a great football player. He had already proven to be a great player in Borussia Dortmund. But I think it's easier to get great stats at Manchester City than it is to get great stats from other teams. Yes, I believe you are correct. I have been considering that ever since I noticed how every Manchester City player plays the game like a machine. I admire the way they perform on the pitch because they always play with one another in mind, which makes them very difficult to defeat. Every Manchester City player who joins any other clubs, in my opinion, would be among the team's best players because they always play the ball normally, even when they are losing. Everyone is aware that Halaand is not as good at Borussia Dortmund as he is at Manchester City, despite the fact that he is currently regarded as one of the top players in the world.
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July 07, 2023, 03:29:47 PM |
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I agree with it. Haaland has improved their scoring skills more maybe. But it wouldn't be fair to say that the main reason of their winning the Champions League title or the whole success of them are thanks to Haaland. Manchester City were already a strong team before Haaland. They were already playing strong as a team.
They just wanted to complete the missing piece of the puzzle. Because Jesus wasn't exactly the kind of Manchester City wanted after parting ways with Aguero. Haaland was just the kind of a striker who could meet their expectations. But like I said it wouldn't be fair to overlook the overall performance of the team and say that it was mostly Haaland's contribution.
Aside from that Haaland didn't even make a goal contribution in last rounds of the Champions League last season. I don't say this to talk badly about Haaland of course he is amazing. You get my point.
I don't agree with your, despite Haaland is not man of the match in Champion League final looks his contribution from group stage until final stage and success become top scorer in Champion League. In final match, Haaland get huger pressure and its effective how to make other player get space for scoring goals. Honestly, Manchester City is strong team and don't depend on one player but Haaland is goals machine helped Manchester City winning treble winner in this season and success get first Champion League tittle. Did you see Haaland's statistic in Champion League? last 11 matches success scored 12 goals and seems how amazing with his performance for Manchester City in this season, I don't think with City winning Champion League without sign Haaland.
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July 07, 2023, 03:32:25 PM |
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Messi's departure will indeed have an effect on the strength of the team at PSG, but the position left by Messi could have been filled by another player even though his talent is not the same as Messi's. Osimhen can indeed be the right alternative for PSG, but the price must also be reasonable because I don't think that Napoli will let Osimhen go for a very cheap price, especially since he was able to make quite good achievements in Serie A last season.
Messi's departure actually won't have much effect on PSG, I think they can make the most of the roles of Mbappe and Neymar. The two players are also in their golden age, there is no need to doubt the quality of the two of them. Luis Enrique is definitely very lucky to have these two attackers in his squad. But if Messi hasn't left PSG, I think they will be more afraid of the Champions League next season because Enrique really knows how to maximize Messi's role. But what can Enrique fail to reunite with his former protege. On the other hand, the duet of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi last season was not optimal so they could not go further after being defeated by Bayern Munich in the last 16 with an aggregate of 3-0. With the majority of the star-studded squad, it doesn't guarantee that PSG can win the Champions League easily and they have never made it to the final at all. For Osimhen, who is being linked with PSG, I think it will be difficult to realize considering he has a release clause at a very high price.
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July 07, 2023, 03:44:38 PM |
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In the next season, Napoli will have less chance compared to the Napoli we saw in the last season mostly because they are going to lose some players and they lose their coach --
In terms of players, I think as long as the club can still maintain its main players, the impact will not be too big We still don't know the performance of Rudi Garcia, Napoli's new coach in manage the team, especially with the club's ambition to conquer the Champions League. We don't know yet if Garcia can handle Napoli better than Luciano Spalletti Rudi Garcia might be an accomplished coach, but it remains to be seen if he can maintain Napoli's commendable consistency against Serie A heavyweights like Milan and Inter. Indeed, we saw how well the team was synergized under Luciano Spalletti's tutelage, making his departure quite disheartening. I am, however, keen to see how Garcia's game strategy melds with Napoli's current squad, which remains largely unchanged. I suppose the key here will be adaptability
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Napol had good performances in Serie A and one good reason for these results he got was mostly because of bad and unstable performances from other teams, also Napoli said the champions league because they didn't have Osimhen helping their team like they had before. That's why I don't even expect to see him achieve anything in the next champions league with their new coach.
Napoli were actually the victim of being inexperienced in the Champions League. Otherwise they had such a great potential to do much better than that. The group stage went really amazing for them in fact. They even destroyed Liverpool in one of the matches. But after the group stage they started to stumble. When they faced Milan they technically seemed stronger generally. But Milan were a way more experienced team than them in their history of Champions League adventures. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Even though Napoli seemed dominant in their matches Milan still made it. In short Napoli have gained some experience now and it is up to Rudi Garcia's management to be successful here again. By the way I still call it a success for Napoli about what they did here last season.
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I don't understand what you are trying to prove. All clubs played under equal conditions (yes, imperfect but the equal) and Real Madrid set a great achievement that no one else could - they won the Champions League three times in a row. All talk about individual episodes or even about a whole "conspiracy" is, as they say, "talking in favor of the poor".
I just don't like it when the "the hand of god" scores a goal in football and people say "same chances for everyone, they could have scored a goal with their hands as well". That is not how I understand competition on the highest level. For me that is competing with each other while being subject to the same rules and abiding to those rules in the same way while being judged by a referee in the same way. That is why a league of 38 games is also different than a competition like a World Cup or the Champions League. Luck (or the lack thereof) usually evens out throughout a season. Privilege (like in the case of Real Madrid) does not. Your argument makes the case that everyone has equal chance in having their breaking the rules behavior go undetected and therefore whoever wins deserves the win, since the other team could also have scored offside goals, circumvent red cards by injuring an opponent's player "the smart way" or scoring a goal with the hand such that the referee doesn't blow the whistle. This still neglects that Real Madrid has more influence on the game and the people behind it than any other club, but still. You say "whoever breaks the rules without getting caught is doing ok because the others could have done the same". I am not that kind of guy and that is why I am a big fan of the VAR and any other measure to reduce shenanigans. Nobody wants to watch an Atletico Madrid game when they have the lead in minute 25 because everyone knows that the game afterwards has nothing to do with soccer as cramps start even in the first half then. Oh you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I did not think that you would seriously talk about conspiracy theories and "Perez bought everything." As for mistakes in different directions at a distance, then what, three Champions Leagues in a row that Real won is a short distance for you? This is 39 games (more than the number of games in the Premier League) and Real Madrid were the strongest in the results of these games. Is it because Perez bought everything or just because Real Madrid were stronger? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Erling Haaland gave Manchester City an edge, but of it had not been for the support from those player's, he wouldn't have scored so much goals, and if you chech, most of em are completely tap in goals. He wouldn't have been able to create so much chances for himself alone.
Manchester City really play football like a machine. Gabriel Jesus had good statistics in this team. Sergio Agüero had good statistics in this team. Ilkay played in this region when the forwards were injured and got good statistics. Manchester City are playing with a tactic with a machine setup. No matter who you put forward in this team, they will have good statistics. Of course, Haaland is a great football player. He had already proven to be a great player in Borussia Dortmund. But I think it's easier to get great stats at Manchester City than it is to get great stats from other teams. Yes, I believe you are correct. I have been considering that ever since I noticed how every Manchester City player plays the game like a machine. I admire the way they perform on the pitch because they always play with one another in mind, which makes them very difficult to defeat. Every Manchester City player who joins any other clubs, in my opinion, would be among the team's best players because they always play the ball normally, even when they are losing. Everyone is aware that Halaand is not as good at Borussia Dortmund as he is at Manchester City, despite the fact that he is currently regarded as one of the top players in the world. Not all players but most of the Manchester City players are much better than other players in the teams they joined there, maybe that's because they have the experience of working with a coach like Guardiola or that's maybe because of the better pieces of training they had in this team. That's why many teams are trying to hire Manchester City players like Saudies they are trying hard to hire Silva. Psg is a quality team that can still win the French League 1. They may not win the UCL because their biggest strength left the team. Of course, Messi's departure hurt the team more. It was also a psychological force for them. Now it will be important for them to fill their place. Osimhen could be a good alternative.
Messi's departure will indeed have an effect on the strength of the team at PSG, but the position left by Messi could have been filled by another player even though his talent is not the same as Messi's. Osimhen can indeed be the right alternative for PSG, but the price must also be reasonable because I don't think that Napoli will let Osimhen go for a very cheap price, especially since he was able to make quite good achievements in Serie A last season. After Messi left they are having negotiations with other players and now Enrique is going to ask PSG to hire more players. We know PSG is a rich team and they won't have any problems with hiring even more expensive players. I guess the PSG we are going to see in the next champions league will be different that what we saw in the last season which can give them more chances to finally achieve something in the next champions league. Erling Haaland gave Manchester City an edge, but of it had not been for the support from those player's, he wouldn't have scored so much goals, and if you check, most of em are completely tap in goals. He wouldn't have been able to create so much chances for himself alone.
In big games, Haaland was not very active and had Manchester city not had other very good players that can perform in top games, they would have been failed by the dependence on Haaland. Players that were very important for Manchester City last season that deserve to be as recognized as Haaland are Rodri who scored an important goal against Bayern Munich and in the final, Bernando Silva played well also against Real Madrid, De Bruyne was also good, also Grealish and Gundogan. As some of these players have left, Manchester City will need to make things happen in those areas where those players player very well. You are wrong, Haaland is an active and well-performing player even in the hard games they have against strong teams but the problem with these players for Haaland they know they have to be careful about this player, and usually other teams will let one or two players man-marking Haaland and that's how they don't even let players like Haaland to even show the good performance we usually expect to see from him.
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Napol had good performances in Serie A and one good reason for these results he got was mostly because of bad and unstable performances from other teams, also Napoli said the champions league because they didn't have Osimhen helping their team like they had before. That's why I don't even expect to see him achieve anything in the next champions league with their new coach.
Napoli were actually the victim of being inexperienced in the Champions League. Otherwise they had such a great potential to do much better than that. The group stage went really amazing for them in fact. They even destroyed Liverpool in one of the matches. But after the group stage they started to stumble. When they faced Milan they technically seemed stronger generally. But Milan were a way more experienced team than them in their history of Champions League adventures. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Even though Napoli seemed dominant in their matches Milan still made it. In short Napoli have gained some experience now and it is up to Rudi Garcia's management to be successful here again. By the way I still call it a success for Napoli about what they did here last season. Of course Napoli had a great success last season by winning the Serie A but the management had already won it by a big margin when they faced Milan in Champions League and between these games they even lost 0-4 to Milan at home in Serie A which angered the management to the maximum level.That is why it was asked to stop collaborating with Spalletti for the upcoming season and some new manager,in this case Rudy Garcia has a lot of burden on his shoulders,which is not to win again the Serie A as that is always an objective in stronger teams in Serie A but to also go further and not to be humiliated like they were in the dual elimination games against Milan.
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They just want to write, I don't think they watch or even play soccer. Even before the arrival of Erling Haaland, Manchester City have been a tough, likewise great side, but he Erling Haaland also gave Manchester City an extra edge when it comes to attacking, pressing and scoring goals. All the goals he scored wouldn't have ever been possible if he lacks supportive team mates. Kevin De Brunye is a a tactical and technical genius, Gundogan the controller of the game, Rodri the engine room for Pep Guardiola and Kudos to Jone Stones for supporting him when he needs support. To Bernado Silva and to Mahrez and likewise Jack Grealish, though he wasn't able to get a single goal during the Champions League. These players all contributed and with those passes to him, he wouldn't have scored that much. Erling Haaland is great I concur, But, he also had fewer goals contribution, all he did much was high pressing and scoring goals and farting for opposition defender's LoL ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I agree with it. Haaland has improved their scoring skills more maybe. But it wouldn't be fair to say that the main reason of their winning the Champions League title or the whole success of them are thanks to Haaland. Manchester City were already a strong team before Haaland. They were already playing strong as a team. They just wanted to complete the missing piece of the puzzle. Because Jesus wasn't exactly the kind of Manchester City wanted after parting ways with Aguero. Haaland was just the kind of a striker who could meet their expectations. But like I said it wouldn't be fair to overlook the overall performance of the team and say that it was mostly Haaland's contribution. Aside from that Haaland didn't even make a goal contribution in last rounds of the Champions League last season. I don't say this to talk badly about Haaland of course he is amazing. You get my point. We can refer to when City has had its ups and downs, especially in the middle of the season. even then, if I'm not mistaken. At that time, Pep tried several times to experiment with several systems to find the ideal pattern for his squad, until they got the ideal formation. City is far more ferocious than before, they always topple the opposing team with a landslide score. all of this is thanks to the system that Pep has developed, conditioned by the players who are his starting eleven. in several crucial cases, Haaland was unable to score, especially in the matches against Madrid and Inter. naturally, he gets a very tight marking. fortunately, Pep is smart and has devised a strategy so that the other City players can contribute to scoring goals. in a way, Haaland opened up space on his teammates. plus, City have players who perfectly fit into the system that Pep Guardiola employs. so, not only Haaland made a big contribution. after all, what City played was a game of teamwork. Well, they got the momentum to win the trebe winner, something that really deserves to be appreciated. next season, it's only natural that City will remain the favorite team. for now, they are in their prime. it's just that, other competitors were not going to let City go smoothly for the second time defending the championship. that's why, there are many clubs currently deepening the depth of their teams in order to appear competitive.
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In the next season, Napoli will have less chance compared to the Napoli we saw in the last season mostly because they are going to lose some players and they lose their coach --
In terms of players, I think as long as the club can still maintain its main players, the impact will not be too big We still don't know the performance of Rudi Garcia, Napoli's new coach in manage the team, especially with the club's ambition to conquer the Champions League. We don't know yet if Garcia can handle Napoli better than Luciano Spalletti When Napoli last season had a very good performance in Serie A but in fact, Napoli could not play well in the Champions League either. With this factor, if next season Napoli does not have the same good performance as last season, then i believe Napoli will not be able to play well in the Champions League next season. It doesn't matter about Napoli's main players, because even if Napoli's main players are still playing at Napoli for next season, it still won't guarantee Napoli has a performance with the same stability as last season. So yes, to conclude i am not sure for Napoli in the next season for the results in the Champions League, because it seems that to maintain the scudetto is also difficult for Napoli to maintain. Napol had good performances in Serie A and one good reason for these results he got was mostly because of bad and unstable performances from other teams, also Napoli said the champions league because they didn't have Osimhen helping their team like they had before. That's why I don't even expect to see him achieve anything in the next champions league with their new coach. Napoli have really performed amazingly in Serie A this season. But in the Champions League, they did no better than PSG. Probably not enough experience for them for such big competitions. By the way, what is surprising is that they lost to Milan. Perhaps in the Champions League it's experience that counts more than a stars squad.
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Erling Haaland gave Manchester City an edge, but of it had not been for the support from those player's, he wouldn't have scored so much goals, and if you chech, most of em are completely tap in goals. He wouldn't have been able to create so much chances for himself alone.
Manchester City really play football like a machine. Gabriel Jesus had good statistics in this team. Sergio Agüero had good statistics in this team. Ilkay played in this region when the forwards were injured and got good statistics. Manchester City are playing with a tactic with a machine setup. No matter who you put forward in this team, they will have good statistics. Of course, Haaland is a great football player. He had already proven to be a great player in Borussia Dortmund. But I think it's easier to get great stats at Manchester City than it is to get great stats from other teams. It was easier for Haaland because he had great support from other team members. When I was watching his interview some days ago, he was asked the best player he ever played witha and I was not surprised that he picked De bruyne because he realizes that all the opportuniy he had that was turned into goal, the half assist came from DE Bruyne, so I don't I agree when you said Haaland statistic was easy to create, they should remove him to another club and watch how he becomes a joke to the club. It is usually like that when all the teams that made it to the Champions League have good perfomance but the story change immediately when they start the Champions League, it is called the Champions League because they are all good teams from the best of best but when they meet each other, even the team you never expect turn to a joke and evetually don't make it to the final.
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I don't understand what you are trying to prove. All clubs played under equal conditions (yes, imperfect but the equal) and Real Madrid set a great achievement that no one else could - they won the Champions League three times in a row. All talk about individual episodes or even about a whole "conspiracy" is, as they say, "talking in favor of the poor".
I just don't like it when the "the hand of god" scores a goal in football and people say "same chances for everyone, they could have scored a goal with their hands as well". That is not how I understand competition on the highest level. For me that is competing with each other while being subject to the same rules and abiding to those rules in the same way while being judged by a referee in the same way. That is why a league of 38 games is also different than a competition like a World Cup or the Champions League. Luck (or the lack thereof) usually evens out throughout a season. Privilege (like in the case of Real Madrid) does not. Your argument makes the case that everyone has equal chance in having their breaking the rules behavior go undetected and therefore whoever wins deserves the win, since the other team could also have scored offside goals, circumvent red cards by injuring an opponent's player "the smart way" or scoring a goal with the hand such that the referee doesn't blow the whistle. This still neglects that Real Madrid has more influence on the game and the people behind it than any other club, but still. You say "whoever breaks the rules without getting caught is doing ok because the others could have done the same". I am not that kind of guy and that is why I am a big fan of the VAR and any other measure to reduce shenanigans. Nobody wants to watch an Atletico Madrid game when they have the lead in minute 25 because everyone knows that the game afterwards has nothing to do with soccer as cramps start even in the first half then. Oh you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I did not think that you would seriously talk about conspiracy theories and "Perez bought everything." As for mistakes in different directions at a distance, then what, three Champions Leagues in a row that Real won is a short distance for you? This is 39 games (more than the number of games in the Premier League) and Real Madrid were the strongest in the results of these games. Is it because Perez bought everything or just because Real Madrid were stronger? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Neither nor. You are mentioning 39 games, but you are neglecting the fact that Real Madrid's journey would have ended in the quarter finals for example in one year with a halfway decent referee. There is a huge difference between getting lucky in the round of 16 due to wrong referee decisions and then be able to play till the end compared to getting knocked out right away. Of course they had the chance to play the next round, but that chance wasn't based on them being the superior or more efficient team. That is why I am saying that the domestic league title is the most honest title a team can win. It is not perfectly honest, but more honest than any one or two leg knockout tournament. With the VAR in place today, Real Madrid would probably not have achieved what they did achieve without the VAR. Since the VAR makes the game more precise, variance would decrease and the scope for lucky probabilities for Real Madrid would have been smaller. The variance of mistaken decisions can have insane impact on the history of a sport. It can give a team a record that will almost never be broken, or it could end the streak in the following year immediately. In this case dozens of decisions helped Real Madrid to win those three titles in a row. Congrats ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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July 07, 2023, 08:59:59 PM |
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Erling Haaland gave Manchester City an edge, but of it had not been for the support from those player's, he wouldn't have scored so much goals, and if you chech, most of em are completely tap in goals. He wouldn't have been able to create so much chances for himself alone.
Manchester City really play football like a machine. Gabriel Jesus had good statistics in this team. Sergio Agüero had good statistics in this team. Ilkay played in this region when the forwards were injured and got good statistics. Manchester City are playing with a tactic with a machine setup. No matter who you put forward in this team, they will have good statistics. Of course, Haaland is a great football player. He had already proven to be a great player in Borussia Dortmund. But I think it's easier to get great stats at Manchester City than it is to get great stats from other teams. It was easier for Haaland because he had great support from other team members. When I was watching his interview some days ago, he was asked the best player he ever played witha and I was not surprised that he picked De bruyne because he realizes that all the opportuniy he had that was turned into goal, the half assist came from DE Bruyne, so I don't I agree when you said Haaland statistic was easy to create, they should remove him to another club and watch how he becomes a joke to the club. It is usually like that when all the teams that made it to the Champions League have good perfomance but the story change immediately when they start the Champions League, it is called the Champions League because they are all good teams from the best of best but when they meet each other, even the team you never expect turn to a joke and evetually don't make it to the final. Debruyne was the man behind Haalad success because if you look at it,you will see it that most assist came from Debruyne. Most players believes in Haalad and the moment City players get to the box of their opponent,Haalad is the player that the ball will be passed to for scoring. He played in a good team that everybody supported him and also wanted him to be an outstanding striker last season which he achieved. When you are a great player playing in the midst of other great players,you will be very successful. We are expecting a new season and I don't think that it would be the same as last season was for Manchester City.
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July 07, 2023, 09:22:15 PM |
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They just want to write, I don't think they watch or even play soccer. Even before the arrival of Erling Haaland, Manchester City have been a tough, likewise great side, but he Erling Haaland also gave Manchester City an extra edge when it comes to attacking, pressing and scoring goals. All the goals he scored wouldn't have ever been possible if he lacks supportive team mates. Kevin De Brunye is a a tactical and technical genius, Gundogan the controller of the game, Rodri the engine room for Pep Guardiola and Kudos to Jone Stones for supporting him when he needs support. To Bernado Silva and to Mahrez and likewise Jack Grealish, though he wasn't able to get a single goal during the Champions League. These players all contributed and with those passes to him, he wouldn't have scored that much. Erling Haaland is great I concur, But, he also had fewer goals contribution, all he did much was high pressing and scoring goals and farting for opposition defender's LoL ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I agree with it. Haaland has improved their scoring skills more maybe. But it wouldn't be fair to say that the main reason of their winning the Champions League title or the whole success of them are thanks to Haaland. Manchester City were already a strong team before Haaland. They were already playing strong as a team. They just wanted to complete the missing piece of the puzzle. Because Jesus wasn't exactly the kind of Manchester City wanted after parting ways with Aguero. Haaland was just the kind of a striker who could meet their expectations. But like I said it wouldn't be fair to overlook the overall performance of the team and say that it was mostly Haaland's contribution. Aside from that Haaland didn't even make a goal contribution in last rounds of the Champions League last season. I don't say this to talk badly about Haaland of course he is amazing. You get my point. No striker in football achieves what Halland achieved last season without his teammates. I agree with you that every player in that Manchester City team was crucial to their dominance of last season, but don't make it look like Halland does nothing than score easy goals already created by other players. When you talk about the 700 goals of Ronaldo, you don't mention the support he got from his teammates, so why is it different with Halland? It's common knowledge that a striker needs good players behind him to flourish so why do people always bring up the issue of the support Halland gets when talking about the goals he scored? Was he supposed to d it on his own?
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July 07, 2023, 09:23:22 PM |
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That's what I thought as well last season when he decided to not leave Tottenham it was as if he missed the boat for the final part of his career. But he did perform really well and scored this high number of goals but the issue is: for what? Of course it is awesome for him to have this goal count and the performance in general, but when it does not come with titles then what is it worth? I have no reason to make his achievements smaller than they are because they are great and everyone acknowledges that. It is more that I feel sorry for him because a player of his category should be able to tell about titles as well one day. That he scored the goal in the final and won the trophy or something, but that is not possible with Tottenham.
Harry Kane will find it difficult to get a trophy if he is still with Tottenham because during the 9 seasons he has spent with Tottenham, Harry Kane has failed to win a prestigious trophy. So there is a pretty good chance for him if he really wants to achieve topy by joining another team. But for now only Bayern munich are really serious about getting Harry kane after they sent an offer to tottenham regarding Bayern Munich's interest in getting Harry kane. Even though we have seen several attempts made by Bayern Munich, in the current conditions it seems that Tottenham are still determined not to lose the most productive striker they have. Now that will make the situation look different from what Harry Kane has wanted because he wants to go to another club but Tottenham still want to keep him for next season, Even Tottenham has reportedly sent a new contract offer for Harry Kane. I think he is really confused by the situation he is currently in.
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July 07, 2023, 09:28:57 PM |
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The fact that they were there and couldn't smell the Champions League, there is nothing to prove to justify that they are good and capable of winning the Champions League. They were there and in there history, they have never won the Champions League in their entire life until the Haaland and Bruyne were signed in 2022 and consequently, they won the Champions league in that season, and the fact that he was able to have more goals in that season, even a blind man will say Haaland was the moving vehicle for Manchester United just that as the matches were approaching the end, he wasn't have chance and opportunity as many other teams weren't giving him space because he do destroy opponent in small opportunity. Haaland is young and strong, if he is good or lucky, we will find out this season because the first time Mbape won his first World Cup, many people said it was lucky but we all saw how he did RIP to Argentina even if they won at the end. Haaland should be able to do the same thing by next season if he is good as people hype about him.
De Bruyne was signed in 2015, even before Pep got there, so I do not think that has anything to do with it. I am not saying Haaland had nothing to do with it, of course he is an amazing player and of course he helped them a ton. However, it would be weird to say that just a single transfer made them win and it was just Haaland, by that logic last season Dortmund should have won because they had Haaland as well. This proves that yes Haaland took them over the edge and made them a winner, but before him they were pretty solid team. Also it is Manchester City and not United. That makes two mistakes in a single message. I am pretty sure that you are just writing for writings sake, it is obvious that you are not fully aware of the situation all that much. There is no doubt that Haaland is an excellent player. But it cannot be said that Haaland alone won Manchester City the title. The Manchester City team is stronger than ever. And by adding a talented player like Haaland to the squad, they became stronger. Moreover, they were not at all dependent on Haaland's performance in the Champions League matches. Manchester City's performance as a team was very good in every Champions League match. Every player in the squad performed well. And so they were able to win the Champions League title for the first time. Manchester City doesn't rely on one another, their coaches are well prepared, and they consistently perform well in all of their games, which is one of the reasons why I admire them. I believe that these factors account for their success in the Champions League, Premier League, and FA Cup. So you can see that they constantly work as a team, despite the fact that each player is skilled in a particular position. I appreciate the fact that they continue to give it their all. But when it comes to Haaland and Dr. Bruyne, there is no doubt that they are the best players on the team. However, without other important players, they couldn't have accomplished what they did this season. With these, I think Manchester city will still improve on what they have accomplished in the past because I think the squad will be stronger next season now that they have added some players to the squad.
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Harry Kane will find it difficult to get a trophy if he is still with Tottenham because during the 9 seasons he has spent with Tottenham, Harry Kane has failed to win a prestigious trophy. So there is a pretty good chance for him if he really wants to achieve topy by joining another team. But for now only Bayern munich are really serious about getting Harry kane after they sent an offer to tottenham regarding Bayern Munich's interest in getting Harry kane. Even though we have seen several attempts made by Bayern Munich, in the current conditions it seems that Tottenham are still determined not to lose the most productive striker they have.
Now that will make the situation look different from what Harry Kane has wanted because he wants to go to another club but Tottenham still want to keep him for next season, Even Tottenham has reportedly sent a new contract offer for Harry Kane. I think he is really confused by the situation he is currently in.
Harry Kane will not win any prestigious title if he stays loyal to Tottenham for long. Tottenham are a good team, but they have always struggled to win titles season after season for one reason or another. Sometimes the team's performance is good, but sometimes it's so bad that even though they can qualify for the Champions League in several seasons. Harry Kane must be able to work up the courage to get out of his comfort zone at Tottenham. He should accept the consequences and care more about his future career instead of just being a Tottenham legend to be remembered. Harry Kane has made 435 appearances for Tottenham in various competitions and has scored 280 goals and 60 assists so far, but is still short on team titles.
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