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September 20, 2023, 10:20:00 PM
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No Manchester United fan in their right state of mind will call for Ten Hag contract termination. We all know in the first place that Bayern Munich weren't minor to Manchester United, and for Manchester United to do a come back of 3 goals to 4 shows that Ten Hag knows how to fix mistakes, all the 3 goals Manchester United score were after the first half, which means that he must have seen tbe loop holes in the first half, corrected the players to repair such position and it work but wasn't enough, they shouldn't have conceded more goals in that trying time.
Ten Hag did contribute to Manchester United's overall performance, but he made certain substitutes today that transformed the game and made the match seem more competitive than the first half.

Bayern Munich felt reluctant after their first two goals because they continued to play without seriousness or with no intention of adding more goals until they conceded two goals, and by then they had removed some of their key players, which is why Manchester United has the opportunity to score up to three goals in the match; even though Bayern played the match without their head coach, they still won.



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Changing the manager will only be a grave mistake for Manchester United but haven't we thought deeply about Onana style of goal keeping all this while, I mean he has conceded more goals than what he has save this season, we can say that defenders were slack but Onana was more flopped with the goal keeping, he need more training or change in my opinion because De Gea would have done better.
Changing managers is not the appropriate thing to do right now; instead, the manager should adjust some of his routines and search for methods to improve in order to help the team, and he should also settle his own differences with some players so that everyone can participate and support the team.

Ten Hag believes De Gea is becoming old and making mistakes that will cost the club some vital points, which is why they let him go and brought Onana in since everyone is watching his couple of blunders that are losing the team some important points, which is very wrong.



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September 20, 2023, 10:22:43 PM
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What a save from Lautaro for Inter.

Luckily for them, their group is very weak and they will have no problems.-
Inter Milan needed time to equalize in this match. Even though Inter Milan are very favorites to win this match, they were not able to show their best game like when they beat AC Milan in Serie A.
Real Sociedad's strength was really good in this match, they were able to defend their defense quite well, so they didn't give Inter Milan players a chance to score in the first half. However, Martinez, as Inter Milan's most fertile player, was finally able to score a goal and save Inter Milan from defeat in this match.

I think Inter Milan has not succeeded in maintaining its best form in this match because it has not succeeded in securing full points in this match. I think Inter Milan, who were runners up last season, should be able to show their best strength to indicate that they are really a strong enough team in the Champions League this season.

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September 20, 2023, 10:27:58 PM
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This is never the Manchester united that I used  to know, If ETH doesn't do anything concerning the goalkeeper I see Manchester going down, in my own point of view I see the team trying to make things right in teams of defence, tactics, passion to fight but the goalkeeper let them down everytime.

The best idea for Manchester United right now is to buy a new goalkeeper and start back from where they stopped. Besides is never too late for Manchester united

You watched that game and you feel a goalkeeper who made 5 crucial saves is the only reason they lost?
Bayern had about 9 shots on target mate. How can Manchester United allow their opponent 9 shots on target in a match? That shows how poor the team is.
Bayern had about 17 goal attempts mate, 17!! That's something that should be happening to a small club, not a club like Manchester United. Onana made his error, but he's not responsible for this loss.

You dey the team is trying to make things right, I say the team is horrible. This is not even the strongest Bayern side. If Bayern were really good and they had their captain Neuer in the team United would have had more than one goal.
The defense is poor, the midfield is poor. Hojlund missing what he should have scored.

Get a new goalkeeper today and play this match again, Manchester United will still get beaten by Bayern Munich because the all-around play of the team is poor.
You're expressing yourself as a dedicated Manchester United fan, and I know your disappointment. Honestly, I didn't anticipate this level of play from them either. It's quite disheartening. Even their opponent, Bayern Munich, doesn't seem as formidable as they once were, which is why they need Harry Kane to strengthen their squad. If you observe the game closely, you'll notice that both teams didn't perform up to par, which is why they needed to score multiple goals. It wasn't so much a case of them playing exceptionally well to score those goals. it was a disappointing performance from both teams.

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September 20, 2023, 10:36:26 PM
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This is never the Manchester united that I used  to know, If ETH doesn't do anything concerning the goalkeeper I see Manchester going down, in my own point of view I see the team trying to make things right in teams of defence, tactics, passion to fight but the goalkeeper let them down everytime.

The best idea for Manchester United right now is to buy a new goalkeeper and start back from where they stopped. Besides is never too late for Manchester united
This is a bit hilarious, were you expecting Man Utd to defeat FC Bayern Munich at home?, with the kind of performance we saw them display lately, No way mate, if at all I was expecting them to perform well not actually in their game against Bayern Munich.

Even the 2:2 draw result from Galatasaray vs. Copenhagen is a thing of worry as it stands because every team in their group now has at least a point except Manchester United and is a big problem for United right now.
Obviously I didn't expect Manchester United to win the match against Bayern Munich right in Germany.  That was why I initially advice Erik Ten Hag to play more of defensive type of game in order to avoid an embarrassing result like 4 goals to 1. It was this mindset that Manchester United approached the match with fear and that was why they were 2goals down in the first half. It seems that Manchester United regained their hope in the second half and came into the game with good confidence and finally the result wasn't humiliating


Same with me I never expected Manchester United to win or even get a goal against Bayern Munich tonight looking at their performance in the premier league, but watching the match I made up my mind to accept the outcome regardless of the number of goals I was expecting Bayern to score United. The early minutes of the game was not really good because truly it appears that United was scared to attack the Bayern Munich players and seeing the first goal the was scored by Sane, I thought it's going to end in 6:0 since the scoring started very early but United beat my expectations by coming back in the game in the second half to almost coming back to an equal score but Bayern Munich ended up winning 4:3.

I think at the end of the match Erik Ten Hag should have a talk with his players, he should motivate them to regain that confidence of believing in them self because part of the reason why Manchester United lost this game is fear and lack of confidence. Onana conceded a cheap go that shouldn't have been a goal because of fear and if things are not corrected he's going to end up being a mess because he won't have the motivation to know his positions again.

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September 20, 2023, 10:36:53 PM
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It is impossible for Manchester United to win Bayern at home which I said before the match started and it has never happened for long. Bayern proved themselves today that they still remain unbeaten at home by their brilliant performance in today's game, by winning United with one goal ahead.


I don’t think it’s totally impossible for United to win Bayern at home but I also didn’t think Manchester United, with their present form stood a chance against Bayern Munich who btw, is in perfect form as was just proved in the just concluded game.

Man United’s performance was a bit surprising to me as I had envisaged United suffering a humiliating defeat but they put up a brave front and played surprisingly not that bad. Exciting second half of the game as both teams stepped up their game leading to more goals.
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September 20, 2023, 10:39:47 PM
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Inter Milan needed time to equalize in this match. Even though Inter Milan are very favorites to win this match, they were not able to show their best game like when they beat AC Milan in Serie A.
Real Sociedad's strength was really good in this match, they were able to defend their defense quite well, so they didn't give Inter Milan players a chance to score in the first half. However, Martinez, as Inter Milan's most fertile player, was finally able to score a goal and save Inter Milan from defeat in this match.

I think Inter Milan has not succeeded in maintaining its best form in this match because it has not succeeded in securing full points in this match. I think Inter Milan, who were runners up last season, should be able to show their best strength to indicate that they are really a strong enough team in the Champions League this season.
The Serie A teams did not show their best performance in their first match in the Group phase. In fact, only Napoli managed to secure full points in their first match in the group phase. The victory achieved by Napoli can be said to be lucky because they won the match with an own goal. Apart from that, AC Milan vs Newcastle United ended in a draw, and Inter Milan also achieved a draw. Lazio also managed to be held to a draw by Atletico Madrid. So the 4 representatives from Serie A in the Champions League were not at their best in their first match in the group phase.

I am more interested in teams from Laliga, they are really strong, like Barcelona and Real Madrid because they managed to win their first match. Apart from that, Manchester City also started their first match with a win. Manchester City still maintains its best performance in both the UCL and EPL.

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September 20, 2023, 10:42:21 PM
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Bayern Munich vs Manchester United.

This match went according to what I expected, if these two teams would score goals against each other. considering that the available odds are not very ideal for Bayern Munich, I would suggest betting on the +1.5 handicap option for United with odds @1.70. My previous guess was that this match would end with a score of 2-1. Bayern will score 2 goals, while Manchester United will score 1 goal. but unexpectedly, this match produced many goals from both teams which ended with a score of 4-3. However, for those who bet on the +1.5 handicap option for United, they won this match with odds @1.70..
Manchester United has the possibility of being defeated by Bayern Munich by a big margin, but Manchester United was not defeated by such a big margin in this Champions League match. The score was 4-3 in this match. Bayern Munich performed much better than Manchester United but Manchester United managed to score.  

In the first half, Bayern Munich led by two goals from Manchester United, after finishing the first half with two goals, Manchester United was under a lot of pressure in the second half. Later, R. Højlund scored a goal in the 49th minute to reduce the team's pressure a little, but then Bayern Munich scored again.  
Casemiro's great effort late in the game sparked a comeback but Manchester United ended the match one goal behind.

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September 20, 2023, 10:48:28 PM
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Same with me I never expected Manchester United to win or even get a goal against Bayern Munich tonight looking at their performance in the premier league, but watching the match I made up my mind to accept the outcome regardless of the number of goals I was expecting Bayern to score United. The early minutes of the game was not really good because truly it appears that United was scared to attack the Bayern Munich players and seeing the first goal the was scored by Sane, I thought it's going to end in 6:0 since the scoring started very early but United beat my expectations by coming back in the game in the second half to almost coming back to an equal score but Bayern Munich ended up winning 4:3. I think at the end of the match Erik Ten Hag should have a talk with his players, he should motivate them to regain that confidence of believing in them self because part of the reason why Manchester United lost this game is fear and lack of confidence. Onana conceded a cheap go that shouldn't have been a goal because of fear and if things are not corrected he's going to end up being a mess because he won't have the motivation to know his positions again.
Looking at Onan's mistake, I have a reasonable question, was Manchester United worth getting rid of David de Gea then? Yes, de Gea also made stupid mistakes like Onana, but he was incomparable in the frame of the goal. As for the game itself, I would like to say the following, that there was a certain reserve in the Bayern Munich game, that it costs the team to add a little and then it calmly locks Manchester United in the penalty area. Manchester United, of course, it is worth noting that they constantly returned to the game thanks to their goals scored, but still it was not Manchester United who added, but rather Bayern Munich calmed down, which is typical of this team in other matches of the season.
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September 20, 2023, 10:49:38 PM
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If Ten Hag is the problem, why did man Utd go through those lengths to get him and their fans were super convinced about his methodologies? My opinion is that Man Utd should stick with ten hag a bit longer. Too much instability in a team makes it harder for players to adapt to ever-changing tactics and plays. I feel this is the reason why Chelsea is struggling as well because they're changing coaches like Man Utd and giving little time for their very-rich squads  to mature.  

I'm all for Ten hag managerial position continuation.
He was doing well Managing Ajax so they were all thinking he will replicate what he did in Ajax at Manchester United. According to stats he wasn’t a bad coach and even good coaches can fail in managing some teams. United’s fans and board never expected it to be this bad but who knows maybe it’s Karma taking a toll on him for maltreating Ronaldo his highest goal scorer in his previous season before he left the club. A Legend like Ronaldo shouldn’t be treated that way, Ronaldo is doing perfectly well and scoring goals in his new club. Maybe Ten Hag is not good enough to manage bigger clubs or maybe the problem Manchester United is facing could be internal problem somewhere within the management. I think he should be given more chance probably till January before deciding if he should leave or stay.

Changing coaches has always been Chelsea’s culture, they have been changing coaches every now and then since back in the days and they were able to achieve a lot during that period so i don’t think that is chelsea’s problem. changing coach can be beneficial and also problematic so we just have to pray the right coach locate the club. I think chelsea’s is facing a different problem which is not associated to changing coaches.

No Manchester United fan in their right state of mind will call for Ten Hag contract termination. We all know in the first place that Bayern Munich weren't minor to Manchester United, and for Manchester United to do a come back of 3 goals to 4 shows that Ten Hag knows how to fix mistakes, all the 3 goals Manchester United score were after the first half, which means that he must have seen tbe loop holes in the first half, corrected the players to repair such position and it work but wasn't enough, they shouldn't have conceded more goals in that trying time.
You can’t call this come back until they are able to draw level or score more goals than their opponents. They tried their best to have scored 3 goals and it’s because Bayern have not been as superior as they used to be since Tuchel took over because how would you be 3 goals up in the first half and end up winning with a goal up while playing at home.

Changing the manager will only be a grave mistake for Manchester United but haven't we thought deeply about Onana style of goal keeping all this while, I mean he has conceded more goals than what he has save this season, we can say that defenders were slack but Onana was more flopped with the goal keeping, he need more training or change in my opinion because De Gea would have done better.
Onana have not been at his best since joining United but i feel it’s down to the form of the club, the whole team is struggling and even the coach is struggling to gain his balance so until then i wouldn’t judge Onana yet. I still feel when the team is back in form he will gain his confidence back and be a better goalkeeper. United’s style of play loosen their defense which is making them shaky when facing an attack but maybe it’s why they concede alot.

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September 20, 2023, 10:53:15 PM
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It is impossible for Manchester United to win Bayern at home which I said before the match started and it has never happened for long. Bayern proved themselves today that they still remain unbeaten at home by their brilliant performance in today's game, by winning United with one goal ahead.


I don’t think it’s totally impossible for United to win Bayern at home but I also didn’t think Manchester United, with their present form stood a chance against Bayern Munich who btw, is in perfect form as was just proved in the just concluded game.

Man United’s performance was a bit surprising to me as I had envisaged United suffering a humiliating defeat but they put up a brave front and played surprisingly not that bad. Exciting second half of the game as both teams stepped up their game leading to more goals.
Manchester United beating Bayern Munich in Germany is not a totally impossible in the world of football. Why th person made such a statement is that the current form of Manchester United is not something that is encouraging. If Manchester United should be on their prime, there is no club they cannot beat, be it home or away. In the other hand Bayern Munich is not even that club we used to know some seasons ago. They are strategically trying to come back to their old form, which they have not attend to currently.

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September 20, 2023, 10:55:43 PM
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At the moment when Karim Benzema left Real Madrid, I thought Real Madrid would have hard days because of losing this player in this season.
Especially when we know they had to race in the Champions League against stronger teams.
But Jude Bellingham had an amazing performance in this team so far, and luckily in the last minutes of the game, he scored a goal in this match.


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September 20, 2023, 10:59:05 PM
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No Manchester United fan in their right state of mind will call for Ten Hag contract termination. We all know in the first place that Bayern Munich weren't minor to Manchester United, and for Manchester United to do a come back of 3 goals to 4 shows that Ten Hag knows how to fix mistakes, all the 3 goals Manchester United score were after the first half, which means that he must have seen tbe loop holes in the first half, corrected the players to repair such position and it work but wasn't enough, they shouldn't have conceded more goals in that trying time.


Changing the manager will only be a grave mistake for Manchester United but haven't we thought deeply about Onana style of goal keeping all this while, I mean he has conceded more goals than what he has save this season, we can say that defenders were slack but Onana was more flopped with the goal keeping, he need more training or change in my opinion because De Gea would have done better.
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You made some solid points although I was talking about Man Utd fans stance about Ten Hag prior to when he officially joined the club from Ajax not now. I know that right now, they feel he is the problem because they obviously have squad quality and depth but very lacking performance-wise.

As for Onana, I believe he is a solid keeper but he is under a lot of pressure right now to deliver and the more mistakes he makes, the more pressure he gets and the more he fumbles. It's like a downward spiral for him right now and except Ten hag does something to fix his defensive team including Onana, they'll continue to suffer from defensive mistakes and errors.

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September 20, 2023, 11:03:59 PM
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Manchester United in the second half now has got one score, but Bayern also can add another score, its really bad for Red Devils. Also Manchester United performance is really bad in the premier league, on the other side I agree with you Manchester United needs a fresh coach. Because if not, then this season they will not get any tickets in the Premier League. Although it is still too early to say that, because may Ten Hag be able to improve his performance, but to be honest I doubt him this season.

If Ten Hag is the problem, why did man Utd go through those lengths to get him and their fans were super convinced about his methodologies? My opinion is that Man Utd should stick with ten hag a bit longer. Too much instability in a team makes it harder for players to adapt to ever-changing tactics and plays. I feel this is the reason why Chelsea is struggling as well because they're changing coaches like Man Utd and giving little time for their very-rich squads  to mature.  

I'm all for Ten hag managerial position continuation.

No Manchester United fan in their right state of mind will call for Ten Hag contract termination. We all know in the first place that Bayern Munich weren't minor to Manchester United, and for Manchester United to do a come back of 3 goals to 4 shows that Ten Hag knows how to fix mistakes, all the 3 goals Manchester United score were after the first half, which means that he must have seen tbe loop holes in the first half, corrected the players to repair such position and it work but wasn't enough, they shouldn't have conceded more goals in that trying time.

Had it been that Manchester United's defense was strong, this would have been a win-match for them against Bayern Munich.   I didn't see anything much that Bayern played that made them defeat Manchester United. Manchester United only had a bad defense and Bayern Munich utilized that for their victory.

What I will be expecting Ten Hag to look into closely, is Manchester United's defense and the coordination of players. The defense has so many loopholes and that's very obvious. Secondly, some players are beginning to play alone example Rashford. Rashford is beginning to be sluggish in making passes to his fellow team players.
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September 20, 2023, 11:14:01 PM
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Manchester United beating Bayern Munich in Germany is not a totally impossible in the world of football. Why th person made such a statement is that the current form of Manchester United is not something that is encouraging. If Manchester United should be on their prime, there is no club they cannot beat, be it home or away. In the other hand Bayern Munich is not even that club we used to know some seasons ago. They are strategically trying to come back to their old form, which they have not attend to currently.
Manchester United were underrated because of the poor performance they keep recording in EPL. Who would have thought the Red Devils will net three goals against the hyped Bavarians, absolutely nobody. There was a chance for an equalizer but manchester united goal keeper, Andre Onana committed blunders that made them concede unexpected goals in the game. Perhaps Onana acknowledged it and would look for more exploring options to triggered, they're targeting best results this season, and they will definitely get prepared for it.

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September 20, 2023, 11:14:09 PM
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At the moment when Karim Benzema left Real Madrid, I thought Real Madrid would have hard days because of losing this player in this season.
Especially when we know they had to race in the Champions League against stronger teams.
But Jude Bellingham had an amazing performance in this team so far, and luckily in the last minutes of the game, he scored a goal in this match.
Jude Bellingham is able to maintain his best role to continue to contribute goals to Real Madrid this season. At the same time, we saw that Joselu and Rodrygo did not appear impressive in that match, but Bellingham was a big actor in Real Madrid victory in that match because thanks to Belingham's goal, Real Madrid was able to win 3 points in this match. Even though throughout the match Real Madrid were able to perform better, unfortunately they failed to score a goal in normal time because many opportunities were wasted in this match.

The fans were quite happy with this victory, especially since Real Madrid first match was held at the Bernaneu stadium, which made Real Madrid really feel how important it was to have Jude Bellingham in the squad. Ancelotti gave a lot of praise to Jude because he was very special to Ancelotti after successfully providing a big contribution in every match.

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September 20, 2023, 11:15:23 PM
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Bayern Munich vs Manchester United.

This match went according to what I expected, if these two teams would score goals against each other. considering that the available odds are not very ideal for Bayern Munich, I would suggest betting on the +1.5 handicap option for United with odds @1.70. My previous guess was that this match would end with a score of 2-1. Bayern will score 2 goals, while Manchester United will score 1 goal. but unexpectedly, this match produced many goals from both teams which ended with a score of 4-3. However, for those who bet on the +1.5 handicap option for United, they won this match with odds @1.70..
Manchester United has the possibility of being defeated by Bayern Munich by a big margin, but Manchester United was not defeated by such a big margin in this Champions League match. The score was 4-3 in this match. Bayern Munich performed much better than Manchester United but Manchester United managed to score.  

In the first half, Bayern Munich led by two goals from Manchester United, after finishing the first half with two goals, Manchester United was under a lot of pressure in the second half. Later, R. Højlund scored a goal in the 49th minute to reduce the team's pressure a little, but then Bayern Munich scored again.  
Casemiro's great effort late in the game sparked a comeback but Manchester United ended the match one goal behind.

This match had 7 eye-catching goals, 1 match Man Utd played well compared to this season. Coach Ten Hag and his team had a good start despite facing strong opponents before personal mistakes ruined everything. Onana made a grave mistake in Leroy Sane's opening goal in the 28th minute. Instead of pushing the ball out or keeping it, he pushed the ball into the net. Onana made some great saves in the second half and overcame his mistakes.
Losing 4-3 to Bayern in the opening match, Man Utd was pushed to the bottom of Group A. The reason was that the previous game between Copenhagen and Galatasaray ended in a draw.

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September 20, 2023, 11:17:57 PM
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At the moment when Karim Benzema left Real Madrid, I thought Real Madrid would have hard days because of losing this player in this season.
Especially when we know they had to race in the Champions League against stronger teams.
But Jude Bellingham had an amazing performance in this team so far, and luckily in the last minutes of the game, he scored a goal in this match.
Although Real Madrid won the game but I find a very late and single goal insufficient for a team like Real Madrid facing a team like Union Berlin which isn't that top this season which make things worse.
Real Madrid need to be convincing and score more goals. I wonder know what they could do if Bellingham was injured or carded..

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September 20, 2023, 11:18:43 PM
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At the moment when Karim Benzema left Real Madrid, I thought Real Madrid would have hard days because of losing this player in this season.
Especially when we know they had to race in the Champions League against stronger teams.
But Jude Bellingham had an amazing performance in this team so far, and luckily in the last minutes of the game, he scored a goal in this match.


There are some teams that always play very good football and score good amount of goals even without a striker. Manchester City has been known for such a thing in the past. But Real Madrid is not well grounded in such attern of playing football
I do not actually know the plan of Ancelotti this season why he has decided to take Jude Bellingham closer to the post to be his goal getter. No matter how impressive the young boy will be and how decorated he is. He cannot be a striker and he will not do that job that the standin 9 will do. Could it be that he want to use him throughout the year maybe in January open window he will sign natural striker?

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September 20, 2023, 11:24:08 PM
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At the moment when Karim Benzema left Real Madrid, I thought Real Madrid would have hard days because of losing this player in this season.
Especially when we know they had to race in the Champions League against stronger teams.
But Jude Bellingham had an amazing performance in this team so far, and luckily in the last minutes of the game, he scored a goal in this match.


Glad to see that madrid gets full points even thought the team was struggling in the game against berlin. I meant madrid was only scoring one game through bellingham but it's able to get three points which is good.
It doesn't even matter how many goals being made by madrid as long as the club will able to get full points and that's enough.
Again and again bellingham becomes savior for real madrid. I must admit that if union berlin is also strong enough as a football club at this moment. Berlin was almost steal 1 point from madrid but bellingham has helped madrid with his last chance.
Im feeling so happy to see real madrid was winning the game against berlin even though berlin gave madrid a hard game for sure.

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September 20, 2023, 11:29:25 PM
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Although Real Madrid won the game but I find a very late and single goal insufficient for a team like Real Madrid facing a team like Union Berlin which isn't that top this season which make things worse. Real Madrid need to be convincing and score more goals. I wonder know what they could do if Bellingham was injured or carded..
Oh, I'll continue your thought further Wink What would the Real Madrid players have done if the ball hadn't successfully bounced to Bellingham at the end of the match? I really feel sorry for the Union Berlin players that they could not endure a little bit until the final whistle of the referee and get a draw and one point in the standings. Despite all the advantage of Real Madrid in the second half, the Berliners defended the whole match with dignity. And yes, I will not call Union Berlin the strongest team, and if Real Madrid wants to achieve something this season in the Champions League, then the team needs to urgently strengthen the game when it really has to play with the strongest teams.
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