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September 21, 2023, 10:44:52 AM
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Man Utd hasn't improved yet if judging by their yesterday match against Bayern Munich was used as a reference that is absolutely untrue, Onana made some brilliant saves in that match if not Man Utd would have lost the match with more goals, though Onana after the match admitted that his error was responsible for the team defeat, even with the narrow defeat I think Bayern Munich were not in their best, however Onana hasn't made any difference since arrived from Inter Milan he was sole responsible for sending off DeGea on a free transfer because of his ability initiate a buildup from the defense yet he had never achieve a clean sheet in all matches he played for Man Utd.

I agree. Bayern Munich dominated the game yesterday and I would say United were quite lucky to have the number of goals they scored. Aside the goal scored by Casemiro with a header, I don’t think United worked nor planned out the rest of their goals.
Onana did play a huge part in making sure they didn’t concede a lot more than they did. The defense is just as important as the goalkeeper in keeping goals out.

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September 21, 2023, 10:53:29 AM
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Manchester United is not a club that is known for having bad goalkeepers. In history, Manchester United has produced one of the best goalies in football. De Gea has served Manchester United very well an was one of the best during his day's in Manchester United.
In the other hand, Onana is also not a bad goalie, he proved himself in his last club and even during the last season champions league which he was supposed to be the best goalkeeper. I can boldly say he was denied that award.
It takes Manchester United time and consistency to balance their team and you will sew the best of Onana
For some reason people only seem to blame Onana's performance for Manchester United's 4-3 defeat to Bayern Munich. I will not only blame Onana who conceded 4 goals in that match, but overall Manchester United and their coach are indeed to blame.

Manchester United are never favorites against Bayern Munich, people need to realize that before judging one player or another. Ten Hag and his team were not expected to win the away game at the Allianz Arena, so the defeat was expected. The depth and appearance of the Manchester United squad is questionable, of course the quality was no better than Bayern Munich in that match.

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September 21, 2023, 11:05:13 AM
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This is never the Manchester united that I used  to know, If ETH doesn't do anything concerning the goalkeeper I see Manchester going down, in my own point of view I see the team trying to make things right in teams of defence, tactics, passion to fight but the goalkeeper let them down everytime.
Of course, it's Manchester United, but to be honest, their performance in the first half was pretty poor. We realize that Onana wasn't doing well because Bayern scored the opening goal, but at least, Onana was obliged to try to catch the ball.

But the second goal was the defense's fault since they didn't hold their position well. But I still have optimism for Manchester United in future games because I was happy with their effort in the second half even though I didn't think they would be able to equalized even one score.

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September 21, 2023, 11:06:49 AM
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Galatasaray's draw was a surprise for everyone.I think Galatasaray should have won this match.I honestly think that it will be by chance for Galatasaray to get out of the group from now on.It is a bit difficult for Bayern and Manchester United to beat Bayern and Manchester United at home, at least it would be important for them to defeat Copenhagen and start the group with 3 points.I did not expect so many goals in the Bayern Munich - Manchester match. Bayern Munich conceded a lot of unnecessary goals and ManU's goalkeeper Onana is already conceding 2-3 goals every game because he does not inspire confidence in goal.
How lucky galatasaray was against copenhagen. My guess galatasaray will be losing in this game if elia jeler would not get a red card. Galatasaray might be dominating the ball possessions but i remind you that if copenhagen was always able maximizing its chance even during the first half. I can imagine if copenhagen would not play with 10 players and i did believe galatasaray would be lose in this game.
Copenhagen has more superiority even though it was always playing defensively against it. Let's say that if galatasaray is the weakest team in this group right now.
Copanhagen was able dominating galatasaray in term of efficientcy its attacking line. It's not surprising me to see galatasaray was struggling against copenhagen.
Hagen is far stronger than galatasaray.
You may be right about being lucky, but when we look at the squads of the two teams, we can say that Galatasaray's squad is better than Copenhagen's.At least you wouldn't expect such a bad performance from a squad with star names.Almost all the players have Champions League experience.Copenhagen could have won the match, but being down to 10 men seems to have spoiled their plans.58. I thought Galatasaray would lose when they went 2-0 up in the 58th minute, but they scored one goal after another in the last few minutes to keep them alive in a way.
Copenhagen did well in this match and a point away from home will take them out of the worst group, maybe 3rd.

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September 21, 2023, 11:17:27 AM
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The match ended in a draw. but in this match, Galatasaray was able to score both of the goals that they did after Copenhagen was shown a red card. Galatasaray was able to take advantage of one extra player on the field. The final score was 2-2.

The last minutes of the match between Galatasaray and Copenhagen were really exciting. I felt like my heart was going to burst while watching the match. Galatasaray scored two goals in the last minutes. Actually they played better in the first half. They had one shot that hit the post and they had a lot of scoring chances. But Copenhagen, with the help of luck, made better use of their chances. If Galatasaray had lost this match, they would have had a very bad start in the Champions League. In a match like this, it's good to start the group stage with 1 point.

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September 21, 2023, 11:21:05 AM
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Man Utd hasn't improved yet if judging by their yesterday match against Bayern Munich was used as a reference that is absolutely untrue, Onana made some brilliant saves in that match if not Man Utd would have lost the match with more goals, though Onana after the match admitted that his error was responsible for the team defeat, even with the narrow defeat I think Bayern Munich were not in their best, however Onana hasn't made any difference since arrived from Inter Milan he was sole responsible for sending off DeGea on a free transfer because of his ability initiate a buildup from the defense yet he had never achieve a clean sheet in all matches he played for Man Utd.

I agree. Bayern Munich dominated the game yesterday and I would say United were quite lucky to have the number of goals they scored. Aside the goal scored by Casemiro with a header, I don’t think United worked nor planned out the rest of their goals.
Onana did play a huge part in making sure they didn’t concede a lot more than they did. The defense is just as important as the goalkeeper in keeping goals out.

Bayern Munich was the effective team throughout the match. They played a really impressive game and showed that they could easily beat any team in the group. The important thing here was the Manchester United matches and they dominated Manchester United without giving them a break.

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September 21, 2023, 11:26:13 AM
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Casemiro forgot that he is playing for United and not Real Madrid last night  Grin Grin as he scored 2 late goals in the manner of Real Madrid but it was still not enough to bring United at least 1 point. Also , I think there are 24 years when we have a lot of goals between Bayern and United when they face each other in UCL.

Galatasaray yesterday made me jump up from my chair and scream for them as I was really happy to see Galatasary finally having at least a decent game in UCL and obtaining 1 deserved point because frankly , Galata should have won yesterday.

Real Sociedad - Inter , a game where Sociedad should have won the game but Inter didn't gave up and continued to insist to score and eventually they got it but Sociedad played way better than Inter last night.  Grin

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September 21, 2023, 11:32:24 AM
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Just now did I take the time to look into the game Lazio vs. Atletico because I thought what is all the buzz about, but hell yeah. What an incredible header that was by the goalkeeper! Not the best striker in the world could have done better! This is so amazing and those are the goals a player will and can never forget. Now it remains to be seen whether this point will play a crucial role at the end, but for the sake of specialty I hope that this goal does count when the group stage is finished and it helps Lazio to advance to the next round. That would be amazing.

The first matches of the Champions League groups are always important. It is better to get 1 point than to lose the match because there are 4 teams in the group and every point is important to get out of the group. The event that attracted the most attention among the matches played yesterday was the goalkeeper scoring a goal in extra time. He made a really good header. It was a moment that football fans will never forget.

I hope this point they got will help them get out of the group because for this goal to have meaning, the team has to get out of the group.

Yes the first game is crucial and a draw can be extremely valuable as it keeps the team in reachable distance to everyone else. Falling behind on day 1 when two teams win their games and two start out with zero points is the worst case scenario. Atletico really felt the pain with that very late goal against them and the worst is that it was scored by the goalkeeper! Cheesy So this is actually a big win for Lazio as it was also crucial to avoid a loss at home whereas for Atletico this isn't 1 point won, but 2 points lost.

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September 21, 2023, 12:03:49 PM
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Of course, it's Manchester United, but to be honest, their performance in the first half was pretty poor. We realize that Onana wasn't doing well because Bayern scored the opening goal, but at least, Onana was obliged to try to catch the ball.

But the second goal was the defense's fault since they didn't hold their position well. But I still have optimism for Manchester United in future games because I was happy with their effort in the second half even though I didn't think they would be able to equalized even one score.
Currently there is a lot of criticism towards Onana, but I don't agree that Onana is the only one to blame for the poor performance and many goals conceded by the Manchester United team.
The Manchester United team did play quite badly and that was in all areas which were not well organized so their performance was poor, it was not the fault of the back line or midfield but in winning the whole team was responsible for all of this.

Bayern Munich was the effective team throughout the match. They played a really impressive game and showed that they could easily beat any team in the group. The important thing here was the Manchester United matches and they dominated Manchester United without giving them a break.
There is a difference in quality between these two teams and the victory achieved by Bayern was quite convincing, the final score was 4-3 but that was because the Manchester United team were able to reduce the deficit at the end of the match, but if you look at it overall they deserved to lose because of their performance they're pretty bad.
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September 21, 2023, 12:29:46 PM
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Man Utd hasn't improved yet if judging by their yesterday match against Bayern Munich was used as a reference that is absolutely untrue, Onana made some brilliant saves in that match if not Man Utd would have lost the match with more goals, though Onana after the match admitted that his error was responsible for the team defeat, even with the narrow defeat I think Bayern Munich were not in their best, however Onana hasn't made any difference since arrived from Inter Milan he was sole responsible for sending off DeGea on a free transfer because of his ability initiate a buildup from the defense yet he had never achieve a clean sheet in all matches he played for Man Utd.

For the first time since 89 (if I remember correctly the news I read this morning), United lost three games in a row, conceding more than 2+ goals in each. Obviously they are playing poorly and the goalkeeper is not even close to De Gea's level yet.
As for Bayern, what irritates me is how easily they concede goals when they are leading, this lasted all of last season and so far there has been no improvement. Yesterday Bayern had a margin of safety and they should have scored more goals. A close score should not mislead anyone.

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September 21, 2023, 12:34:07 PM
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Currently there is a lot of criticism towards Onana, but I don't agree that Onana is the only one to blame for the poor performance and many goals conceded by the Manchester United team.
The Manchester United team did play quite badly and that was in all areas which were not well organized so their performance was poor, it was not the fault of the back line or midfield but in winning the whole team was responsible for all of this.
I tend to agree with opinions like this instead of just blaming Andre Onana or some other player. All the players and coaches must be responsible for their poor performance in the last few matches, but I also don't think Manchester United deserved to draw, let alone win it.

Their gameplay was poor and I wasn't at all entertained by the team's performance, but I have to realize that this team is plagued by a lot of problems that don't seem to be resolved. Ten Hag must restore his team's confidence in the next match, that's what I hope instead of speculating too much about this team.

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September 21, 2023, 12:36:30 PM
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There is a difference in quality between these two teams and the victory achieved by Bayern was quite convincing, the final score was 4-3 but that was because the Manchester United team were able to reduce the deficit at the end of the match, but if you look at it overall they deserved to lose because of their performance they're pretty bad.
It seems like there is no difference in quality between the two teams, but what there is is a difference in circumstances where Manchester United this season is still looking for the best strategy to be able to win every match while Bayern Munich has found it when last season faced quite a lot of obstacles and made several changes to their squad and so far this went well so that not only in the Bundesliga but in the Champions League they managed to win.
7 goals were scored by both teams and this match was quite interesting because I thought Munich would win with a large goal margin because seeing how Manchester United lost in a local competition in front of their own public would affect their mentality but apparently not even though Casemiro scored two goals in the final minutes of the match but at least showed that United was not below the quality of Munich.

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September 21, 2023, 12:59:11 PM
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It wasn't a difficult game for PSG. They won 2-0 with a clear score.


At home, PSG had a smooth start in the group of death in the Champions League when they won convincingly against Dortmund. Determined to succeed, PSG rushed to attack right at the beginning of the match, putting pressure on Dortmund's goal. Mbappé successfully took the penalty kick even though goalkeeper Kobel guessed the right direction. Next, Hakimi sealed a 2-0 victory for PSG. The final score could hardly have been 2-0 without missing at least 2 favorable situations at the end of the match. Along with that, Goncalo Ramos was also denied a goal due to offside.
This is the motivation for PSG to aim for the ambition of raising the Champions League championship.

It's a good start from PSG while its competitors must get 1 point to draw against each other. PSG has been trying to maximizing the situation. Newcstle and acmilan are draw and it looks like that PSG will not be trying so hard in passing this group.
Mbappe has been doing it so well by scoring against dortmund through penalty. The only dangerous scenario if PSG cannot win against acmilan and newcastle.
It will be a disaster for the club consider newcastle and acmilan are strongest team in this group after PSG. PSG needs to anticipate that.

After the first matches in the group stage, I assess that this group will be easy for PSG. It won't be a death panel, as rumored. Although PSG lost two strikers, Neymar and Messi, their strength is still superior to the other teams and is definitely at the top. AC Milan and Newcastle: AC Milan will be the team behind PSG.
In the next match, Milan will visit Dortmund, and Newcastle will host PSG. This will be easy for PSG.

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September 21, 2023, 01:00:47 PM
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Bayern Munich was the effective team throughout the match. They played a really impressive game and showed that they could easily beat any team in the group. The important thing here was the Manchester United matches and they dominated Manchester United without giving them a break.

I believed that Bayern Munich would score many goals against Manchester United and wasn't expecting that Man United would equalized with three goals against Bayern. I was really surprised by the ways which Manchester United played in the Premier League; I was doubting that they would not perform as well as this and they proved that they are not as weak as I had assumed. I have full assurance that Munich would score more goals against Manchester United than they did, and I didn't think that they would match that total with three goals against Munich. I was surprised with yesterday scores with the way Manchester United has been performing in the Premier League; I had doubting them that they wouldn't be quite as strong as they have proven to be.

The only issue Manchester United is still having, in my opinion, is from Onana. He was at fault for the first two goals scored because the ball was so simple to catch and the team needed to make a move to improve from the group stage. As a result, the fans won't be as upset with the club because Bayern Munich is not a small club, as we all know.

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September 21, 2023, 01:27:43 PM
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People are saying Manchester United is already improved because during their poor performance they can score 3 goals to Bayern Munich, but people forget if Bayern Munich's goalkeeper played really awful. If Bayern Munich still have Yann Sommer, I think Manchester United only can score one goal.

It's shame to see Onana, Ten Hag should ask De Gea to back Manchester United.

Overall I'm happy to see Rashford has lower his ego, while Bruno is still same.
Man Utd hasn't improved yet if judging by their yesterday match against Bayern Munich was used as a reference that is absolutely untrue, Onana made some brilliant saves in that match if not Man Utd would have lost the match with more goals, though Onana after the match admitted that his error was responsible for the team defeat, even with the narrow defeat I think Bayern Munich were not in their best, however Onana hasn't made any difference since arrived from Inter Milan he was sole responsible for sending off DeGea on a free transfer because of his ability initiate a buildup from the defense yet he had never achieve a clean sheet in all matches he played for Man Utd.
I admire Onana's courage because it is not easy to publicly accept responsibility of making your team lose even when you have so many reasons to blame it on another person. This shows that Onana is highly commited to Manchester United course and he is ready to do his best for Manchester United.
In his speech after the match against Bayern, he admitted that he has to learn fast and adapt with the team. Truly, that what I think the problem is with Onana. His level of confidence fits a very stable team like Manchester city or Real Madrid and not struggling Manchester United.
Onana should be reserved first until Manchester United is back to the team we used to know before he can display his confidence and footing prowess.

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September 21, 2023, 01:29:02 PM
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Casemiro forgot that he is playing for United and not Real Madrid last night  Grin Grin as he scored 2 late goals in the manner of Real Madrid but it was still not enough to bring United at least 1 point. Also , I think there are 24 years when we have a lot of goals between Bayern and United when they face each other in UCL.

Galatasaray yesterday made me jump up from my chair and scream for them as I was really happy to see Galatasary finally having at least a decent game in UCL and obtaining 1 deserved point because frankly , Galata should have won yesterday.

Real Sociedad - Inter , a game where Sociedad should have won the game but Inter didn't gave up and continued to insist to score and eventually they got it but Sociedad played way better than Inter last night.  Grin
It was clear on Casemiro's face that he was so annoyed with the performance of the other Manchester United players and that it was very rare for a defensive midfielder to score a brace in a big match like this. Grin

Maybe it's true that this time Casemiro has forgotten that he is no longer at Real Madrid so that possibilities that were previously impossible to achieve will still not be realized because he is aware that he is currently in the Red Devils squad. Casemiro must be more able to accept the fact that he is a Manchester United player and not a Real Madrid player like two seasons ago. Roll Eyes

Galatassaray almost lost face in front of their fans and I think even though two quick goals came late in the final minutes, at least it could make them smile again rather than having to suffer defeat in the opening match of the group phase.

It must be admitted that Yan Sommer's performance was very good as Inter's goalkeeper because he made several saves which saved Inter from defeat and there was a unique incident when Barella received a red card but after seeing VAR the red card was canceled by the referee which made Barella return to the field. Even so, Real Sociedad and Inter gave an interesting match even though in the end they only shared 1 point.

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September 21, 2023, 01:29:49 PM
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Galatasaray's draw was a surprise for everyone.I think Galatasaray should have won this match.I honestly think that it will be by chance for Galatasaray to get out of the group from now on.It is a bit difficult for Bayern and Manchester United to beat Bayern and Manchester United at home, at least it would be important for them to defeat Copenhagen and start the group with 3 points.I did not expect so many goals in the Bayern Munich - Manchester match. Bayern Munich conceded a lot of unnecessary goals and ManU's goalkeeper Onana is already conceding 2-3 goals every game because he does not inspire confidence in goal.
How lucky galatasaray was against copenhagen. My guess galatasaray will be losing in this game if elia jeler would not get a red card. Galatasaray might be dominating the ball possessions but i remind you that if copenhagen was always able maximizing its chance even during the first half. I can imagine if copenhagen would not play with 10 players and i did believe galatasaray would be lose in this game.
Copenhagen has more superiority even though it was always playing defensively against it. Let's say that if galatasaray is the weakest team in this group right now.
Copanhagen was able dominating galatasaray in term of efficientcy its attacking line. It's not surprising me to see galatasaray was struggling against copenhagen.
Hagen is far stronger than galatasaray.

This was a surprising result. And with this result they have made life very difficult for themselves. now I don't think they will be able to achieve anything from this tournament. Getting knocked out from the group stage is actually going to be a shameful result for them. But they are the ones to blame for this. No one else is actually going to be blamed for this. The last match was definitely disappointing for them.

Bayern Munich versus Manchester United was unbelievable at the end. Bayern Munich did not need to concede so many. And I do not understand what Manchester United achieved by bringing in a new goalkeeper. He was supposed to be better compared to what they had. But this is turning out to be another problem.

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September 21, 2023, 01:38:54 PM
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Man Utd hasn't improved yet if judging by their yesterday match against Bayern Munich was used as a reference that is absolutely untrue, Onana made some brilliant saves in that match if not Man Utd would have lost the match with more goals, though Onana after the match admitted that his error was responsible for the team defeat, even with the narrow defeat I think Bayern Munich were not in their best, however Onana hasn't made any difference since arrived from Inter Milan he was sole responsible for sending off DeGea on a free transfer because of his ability initiate a buildup from the defense yet he had never achieve a clean sheet in all matches he played for Man Utd.

For the first time since 89 (if I remember correctly the news I read this morning), United lost three games in a row, conceding more than 2+ goals in each. Obviously they are playing poorly and the goalkeeper is not even close to De Gea's level yet.
As for Bayern, what irritates me is how easily they concede goals when they are leading, this lasted all of last season and so far there has been no improvement. Yesterday Bayern had a margin of safety and they should have scored more goals. A close score should not mislead anyone.
Looking at what Manchester United did in this match, I'm honestly skeptical about them in the Champions League. Even the few goals they scored were not free from mistakes made by Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich also did the same thing, but I see them more than Manchester United. I think Manchester United's journey will not be long if they continue to play like this. I won't rule them out, but they have to improve their performance, whether it's in attack or defense, including their new goalkeeper who still makes a lot of mistakes, even though he can make some saves.


I'll go on to the other match that pitted Real Madrid against Union Berlin, yes it was Jude Bellingham who was once again the hero of the match with a dramatic goal in the dying minutes of the game. Once again I say that Real Madrid are very lucky to have a player like him. If we go to the statistics of the match then we will see that Real Madrid recorded 32 attempts and only 7 were on target. They need to improve their finishing when they attack, because it's unfortunate that they create so many wasted chances.

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September 21, 2023, 01:40:54 PM
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Arsenal vs PSV today in the UEFA Champions League match, Arsenal team won the match by scoring 4 goals. On the other hand, the performance of PSV team players was bad for which PSV team could not score any goals. I was waiting to see a lot of hard fighting between the two teams, but it did not happen for PSV team.  For a bad game. Arsenal team played very well from start to finish. B. Saka scored the first goal in 8 minutes. L.  Trossard scored the 2nd goal in 20 minutes. And G. Jesus scored the 3rd goal in 38 minutes. Arsenal team was leading by 3 goals before halftime. After halftime Arsenal team won by 4 goals in total.


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September 21, 2023, 01:45:11 PM
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Man Utd hasn't improved yet if judging by their yesterday match against Bayern Munich was used as a reference that is absolutely untrue, Onana made some brilliant saves in that match if not Man Utd would have lost the match with more goals, though Onana after the match admitted that his error was responsible for the team defeat, even with the narrow defeat I think Bayern Munich were not in their best, however Onana hasn't made any difference since arrived from Inter Milan he was sole responsible for sending off DeGea on a free transfer because of his ability initiate a buildup from the defense yet he had never achieve a clean sheet in all matches he played for Man Utd.

I agree. Bayern Munich dominated the game yesterday and I would say United were quite lucky to have the number of goals they scored. Aside the goal scored by Casemiro with a header, I don’t think United worked nor planned out the rest of their goals.
Onana did play a huge part in making sure they didn’t concede a lot more than they did. The defense is just as important as the goalkeeper in keeping goals out.

Bayern Munich was the effective team throughout the match. They played a really impressive game and showed that they could easily beat any team in the group. The important thing here was the Manchester United matches and they dominated Manchester United without giving them a break.

It's a common thing since bayern was hosting the game. It will be so dumb if bayern will not able to take the advantage over manchester united. It's caused by that if bayern needs to get full points.
It will help the club so much in the away game against manchester united. The attacking lines of manchester united played so well but it is not for the defensive line and its goal keeper. During the game, the defensive lines were displaying a terrible performance which resulted in numerous mistakes being made by Onana and subsequently, he was blamed for the poor outcome. Bayern has been successfully farming full points from manchester united and i must also thankful caused by i took btts for this game.

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