⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[SatoPrincess]

Arsenal just has to win this one, they’ve come way too far to not have this title. From being the average team we knew them to be that is always looking up to the FA cup for a trophy and Europa for an international league qualification to a title contender and a strong UCL side. Of course I’ll like to see their efforts pay off but,

It’s really up to Spurs to decide. Spurs would be crowning the league champions this season with their lose or win. Arsenal already ensured they don’t lose their advantage to Manchester City and set the pace for number of goals, playing better football at the end of the season, that’s so not their style last season and they could win this for real.

All credit goes to Arteta for making this Arsenal team what it is today. I have watched this team develop in the last couple of seasons, they have become a team worthy of being considered serious title contenders for any tournament they are in. I think Arsenal would have won the EPL last season if Manchester City were not such a dominant team. They will not want to disappoint their fans this time around.

[vennali]

Probable position of EPL teams by the end of the season. Keep in mind that this isn't about the mathematical chances of a team reaching a certain position but, Using win probability on the left over matches, how the team is most likely going to fare.

[Oluwa-btc]

Tottenham are really likely to seal the champion's fate in the remaining weeks. They have matches to play against all the title challengers in the remaining time of the season. By the way Liverpool have captured a really good advantage by last week results. They have taken the lead. I hope Liverpool finish the season ahead of Arsenal because of having a side bet to win.

It must really be a time to feel so lucky with your bet but, I don’t wish you that luck lol… Arsenal just has to win this one, they’ve come way too far to not have this title. From being the average team we knew them to be that is always looking up to the FA cup for a trophy and Europa for an international league qualification to a title contender and a strong UCL side. Of course I’ll like to see their efforts pay off but,

It’s really up to Spurs to decide. Spurs would be crowning the league champions this season with their lose or win. Arsenal already ensured they don’t lose their advantage to Manchester City and set the pace for number of goals, playing better football at the end of the season, that’s so not their style last season and they could win this for real.

Yeah... Last Season, They dominated all of the clubs who are rivals with em and Tottenham Hotspur was also included. I see them winning this game besides no matter how bad Arsenal be, they get it difficult to run over them, that is exactly how poor Tottenham Hotspur can be. I'm also sure that they will not be able to qualify for the Champions League Competition.

Manchester United will benefit from this game and that of Manchester City against Aston Villa. Lo and Behold, Olie Watkins wouldn't be available for the next game against Manchester City.
If Manchester United can successfully be consistent, they will also get the better of these too side's. Most importantly Tottenham Hotspur. Erik Ten Hag is doing all he can in his power to dominate and leapfrog them to qualify for the Champions League Competition.

[Nheer]

I also have the same thought. Compared to Liverpool and Arsenal, Man City is likely to encounter obstacles when playing against Tottenham and Aston Villa. Meanwhile, Liverpool and Arsenal, apart from having to play against Tottenham and Aston Villa, they also have to play against Man United. Man United does have inconsistent performance, but there are times when they play against big teams, they can play quite well.

Manchester City don’t have a match with Tottenham, they have played against Tottenham already and won 0-1

Manchester City are not as superior as they used to be and they might find it difficult to win some of their matches, they have a few strong matches too against Aston Villa, West Ham, Brighton, Fulham and some other low profile teams but it doesn’t guarantee them winning comfortably because we all know that as the league draws to the end it gets tougher and even bottom table teams become difficult to win.

Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City all have strong matches to play and to win them they need to be at their best performances else they can end up losing.

[EL MOHA]

Manchester City don’t have a match with Tottenham, they have played against Tottenham already and won 0-1

Manchester City are not as superior as they used to be and they might find it difficult to win some of their matches, they have a few strong matches too against Aston Villa, West Ham, Brighton, Fulham and some other low profile teams but it doesn’t guarantee them winning comfortably because we all know that as the league draws to the end it gets tougher and even bottom table teams become difficult to win.

Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City all have strong matches to play and to win them they need to be at their best performances else they can end up losing.

No they do have a match left against Tottenham HotSpur, the game was supposed to be played the same weekend that Manchester city played their FA cup quarter final and the game got postponed. The reason why most people miss this is because most of the news outlet leave out this fixture since it doesn’t currently have a date or time for it. The likeliest date will be after Manchester city have played there mid week second leg with Real Madrid which is suppose to be 17th of April. After then EPL will definitely fixed the match in one of the mid week games as a double week game for Manchester city. Tottenham definitely will have a say on this race since they will play the three competitors but I don’t see them even winning of their games as things stands now

[AprilioMP]

If we look at the chances that exist based on the remaining opponents at the moment, of course Manchester City has a greater chance of being able to win the Premier League than Arsenal and Liverpool, just like you, I also agree that currently the 3 point gap that Manchester City has from Liverpool at this time is not too big and they for now just need to wait and hope Liverpool and Arsenal slip up in their remaining games of the season.

It's possible to say that Manchester City's chances of winning the Premier League title are greater than Arsenal and Liverpool. Likewise, some people say that Arsenal or Liverpool have a big chance, but I'm still keeping it and don't want to say which of them has a big chance of lifting the trophy because the three of them will face matches with very close schedules which could potentially result in players getting injured because of fatigue.

Arsenal and Manchester City still remain in the European Champions League. Liverpool is also still in the Europa League.
Manchester City's position apart from the Champions League, they are also still in the FA Cup.

You will definitely complain about a busy schedule because it has a big impact on your desired targets.

[Sunderland]

If we look at the chances that exist based on the remaining opponents at the moment, of course Manchester City has a greater chance of being able to win the Premier League than Arsenal and Liverpool, just like you, I also agree that currently the 3 point gap that Manchester City has from Liverpool at this time is not too big and they for now just need to wait and hope Liverpool and Arsenal slip up in their remaining games of the season.

It's possible to say that Manchester City's chances of winning the Premier League title are greater than Arsenal and Liverpool. Likewise, some people say that Arsenal or Liverpool have a big chance, but I'm still keeping it and don't want to say which of them has a big chance of lifting the trophy because the three of them will face matches with very close schedules which could potentially result in players getting injured because of fatigue.

Arsenal and Manchester City still remain in the European Champions League. Liverpool is also still in the Europa League.
Manchester City's position apart from the Champions League, they are also still in the FA Cup.

You will definitely complain about a busy schedule because it has a big impact on your desired targets.

Yep if we look at the remaining schedule, Mancity has the advantage compare with Liverpool and Arsenal.
But even if Liverpool and Arsenal lose 3 points, they are still on track to become Premier League champions with a difference of only 1 and 2 points with City.
I hope that this race will last until the last match of the season, not like the Serie A where its already known who will become the winner.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Maybe you didn’t watch the match, because if you watch the match you won’t have said Manchester City performance was horrible today. All what you are talking about is the 1 shot on target which they had, but if you watch the match, you will see the pattern of  football which Arsenal played, they played a defensive game which didn’t give Manchester City opportunity to get to their goal keeper. If you check the possession, then you will see that Manchester City dominated the match, but they couldn’t get the opportunity to score in the match, I won’t really say Manchester City performance was bad in the match.

I watched the whole game and Manchester City were not good at all.    Arsenal's playing a defensive game can't be shown as an excuse for that. Manchester City still have great players to score goals. Guardiola just couldn't figure out a way to break Arteta's system in this game. It wasn't a mission impossible in the end but of course I really admire Arteta's work.

This result and performance can't be acceptable for Manchester City while they are fighting for the Premier League title. Even if you ask Guardiola I'm pretty sure he will also say that they weren't good enough that day.

Arteta already beat them once at Emirates though so I was expecting Guardiola to be well-prepared this time.

[Farma]

It's possible to say that Manchester City's chances of winning the Premier League title are greater than Arsenal and Liverpool. Likewise, some people say that Arsenal or Liverpool have a big chance, but I'm still keeping it and don't want to say which of them has a big chance of lifting the trophy because the three of them will face matches with very close schedules which could potentially result in players getting injured because of fatigue.

Arsenal and Manchester City still remain in the European Champions League. Liverpool is also still in the Europa League.
Manchester City's position apart from the Champions League, they are also still in the FA Cup.

You will definitely complain about a busy schedule because it has a big impact on your desired targets.

A busy schedule will at least affect the performance or consistency of a team, fatigue or loss of focus can make things worse.

I don't think that Manchester City has a greater percentage to win the title this season, I think these three teams still have the same percentage because the remaining 10 games this season is not an easy thing to get through.

In terms of team strength, we have seen that Manchester City is no better than Arsenal and Liverpool, everything is the same, but with the remaining matches bringing together several other strong teams, anything is possible.

In week 31 Manchester City will again have difficulty facing Aston Villa, they cannot afford to lose this match with such a burden making it even more difficult for this team to be able to play as usual.

[QueenVera]

Arsenal will have tougher fixtures compared to the manchester cit and im sure many people are totally aware about this. It's hard to predict whether liverpool will able to get three points against those clubs. Im concerning about manchester united and totenham matches. These club looked like ez matches but the reality may be very different.
Arsenal must have passed all of the matches carefully. A blunder for arsenal will be result in the club will be missing PL trophy once again and im sure that if many fans will be also mocking this club again like last season. Those fixtures are hard to pass by arsenal and i strongly belive arsenal can do that. Im not really sure to pick arsenal in the upcoming games.

Liverpool, arsenal and manchester city are same strong here. It's kinda weird to see that city was not performing like what it used to be. As long as liverpool's players will always play carefully without even get injury and the chance is big to keep the first place till the end of season.
Salah has always become a key owned by liverpool to win the game. His experience was carrying the club to perform better. Im feeling so damn good with the performance showed by liverpool till this time. Multiple trophies are still possible till now.

The EPL is now getting fierce with about 9 matches to go and now we can start playing out the possibilities of who’ll be winning the league at the end of the season. Yes we can know and predict the winner now and we can see who have a better chance of winning as compared to the others.

 Liverpool are mow 2 points clear at the top of table and that’s a big plus to them as they were able to get the win over the weekend against Brighton. Now they have some more matches to go and about 3 are with UCL spot contenders but one big thinng is that they’re all at Anfield and as such you can say Liverpool have the upper hands already.

 Arsenal on the other end with the draw statement made at the Etihad you can’t in anyway wrote them off from winning the league but the major issue is that most of their big matches are at the home ground of the other club and you can then begin to wonder the possibilities of getting 3 points. Yes 3 points is what’s very important at this point rather than having draws as draws might not be able to do anything or help at this point.

 ⁠For City you can now start wondering if they’ll be able to win with the whole injury crisis in the team springing up now and the way they cluelessly played against Arsenal them you’ll know their level of play has dropped. For me Liverpool are better team to win this league but if they fall back then I think Arsenal will sure win the league because City aren’t looking like they’re seriously wanting to win the league.

[Abu-Naim]

All credit goes to Arteta for making this Arsenal team what it is today. I have watched this team develop in the last couple of seasons, they have become a team worthy of being considered serious title contenders for any tournament they are in. I think Arsenal would have won the EPL last season if Manchester City were not such a dominant team. They will not want to disappoint their fans this time around.

Arsenal of last season has little lapses in their squad, the team lack squad depth as at last season which is why they lose the title to the best team in the league. They are also afraid of Manchester City which is why they lost to them home and away last season. But this season, Arsenal team has gain some maturity because some of the first team players are injured and the team is not showing any sign of their absence, this is indeed a remarkable success to Arteta and Arsenal should be considered a team that can win any trophy from now henceforth.

[Dzigie]

All credit goes to Arteta for making this Arsenal team what it is today. I have watched this team develop in the last couple of seasons, they have become a team worthy of being considered serious title contenders for any tournament they are in. I think Arsenal would have won the EPL last season if Manchester City were not such a dominant team. They will not want to disappoint their fans this time around.

In the first half of the season, Manchester City failed to score against Arsenal. The Gunners under Arteta defended very well in both games. They looked a bit like a bus in front of the goal in this game, but we have to admit that they have defended well this year. Also, apart from everything else, I've seen Haaland underperforming a bit in the last few weeks. If he can't get back to his old days, I say Manchester City can forget about the title this season. He's playing as a lone striker and not scoring in the last games.

[makishart]

Probable position of EPL teams by the end of the season. Keep in mind that this isn't about the mathematical chances of a team reaching a certain position but, Using win probability on the left over matches, how the team is most likely going to fare.

Nothing has changed between this and using mathematical chances and it think that the result can still chance but yeath since the upcoming week is not gonna be a hard week for manchester cit and in my opinion that if nothing will change. Liverpool is still leading the competition, but given the upcoming fixtures between Liverpool and Arsenal which are even more difficult compared to the what manchester city is gonna face and i strongly believe city can take advantage from this, I believe a miracle can occur for Manchester City in the future to see its competitors were bottling some matches. Having said that if Liverpool is currently favored by bookmakers to win the competitions but who knows if a miracle can happen like last season when arsenal bottled some matches, but there are still plenty of matches left for all of top clubs and the standing can changed based on the resut achieved in any weeks.

The first, second, and third positions can change at any time as long as the gap is not too large. I believe Arsenal should have a lower win probability based on who their next opponents will be. Manchester City has surpassed almost all of the strong clubs but yeah since it was not lucky enough and it's still at the third place now.
city now only has some mediocre clubs as upcoming fixtures which can be passed easily by the big like city and it will put the city in the safe zone, whereas Arsenal has not yet faced strong clubs. We consider other factors, such as club fixtures and I would rank Arsenal lower than Manchester City coz city has easier fixtures compared to the arsenal which will face chelsea, mu and many more.

Liverpool will remain in first place if they do not have as difficult a schedule as Arsenal. I believe the Reds will win the competition this season because they have a very strong club that can perform consistently in any match.

[Josefjix]

I watched the whole game and Manchester City were not good at all.    Arsenal's playing a defensive game can't be shown as an excuse for that. Manchester City still have great players to score goals. Guardiola just couldn't figure out a way to break Arteta's system in this game. It wasn't a mission impossible in the end but of course I really admire Arteta's work.

This result and performance can't be acceptable for Manchester City while they are fighting for the Premier League title. Even if you ask Guardiola I'm pretty sure he will also say that they weren't good enough that day.

Arteta already beat them once at Emirates though so I was expecting Guardiola to be well-prepared this time.

The Etihad Stadium is a home for winning top opponents and there's more to this, it becomes more formidable for Manchester City when they starts because they're currently the best team and top favorites. Let not all the praise go to Pep Guardiola and Manchester City, we have Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool, Mikel Arteta and Arsenal. Pep Guardiola was all known to be one of the fierce manager in the English Premier League, he knows his threats and how to handle them. Why blaming Manchester City for the incapacity of accumulating three points against Arsenal.

[Hanadawa]

It's possible to say that Manchester City's chances of winning the Premier League title are greater than Arsenal and Liverpool. Likewise, some people say that Arsenal or Liverpool have a big chance, but I'm still keeping it and don't want to say which of them has a big chance of lifting the trophy because the three of them will face matches with very close schedules which could potentially result in players getting injured because of fatigue.

Arsenal and Manchester City still remain in the European Champions League. Liverpool is also still in the Europa League.
Manchester City's position apart from the Champions League, they are also still in the FA Cup.

A busy schedule will be an external factor in determining each team's chances of winning the League title. City and Arsenal have important matches in the Champions League, while Liverpool have relatively easy matches in the Europa League. This will make determining who has the greatest chance of winning the league title even more difficult.

If you look at the league matches, City has a big chance because the match is relatively easy. But they still have the FA and UCL trophies. Arsenal is a bit balanced because they are playing in the UCL and have a big game against Liverpool. Liverpool have tough games against Tottenham, Aston Villa and Arsenal but they have relatively easy games in the Europa League.

[el kaka22]

The thing is, technically speaking Man City is third, that is what the standings are showing literally right now, and yet people still think that Man City has the highest chance to win. That should be good enough to provide you how strong they are. There are two other teams top of them and both of those teams are great teams and yet we are talking about something that is still quite different in many ways. I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on what to do.

I believe that we are going to do fine with Liverpool but Arsenal may actually lose out. Liverpool is not an easy piece and Man City knows this very well, if you ask them how much chance they have, they would say a number less than what people think of them.

[Pulsar77]

The thing is, technically speaking Man City is third, that is what the standings are showing literally right now, and yet people still think that Man City has the highest chance to win. That should be good enough to provide you how strong they are. There are two other teams top of them and both of those teams are great teams and yet we are talking about something that is still quite different in many ways. I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on what to do.

I believe that we are going to do fine with Liverpool but Arsenal may actually lose out. Liverpool is not an easy piece and Man City knows this very well, if you ask them how much chance they have, they would say a number less than what people think of them.

Bookmakers still continued to favour Manchester City the most for the title but it looks like they have dropped them to the second place now.

Because the current odds: Liverpool - 2.10  Manchester City - 2.75  Arsenal - 3.25

Arsenal are still shown as the least favourite which I'm not surprised of. The last time they won the title was 20 years ago in the end. I agree about Liverpool. There have been really great title challenges between them and Manchester City so far.    Honestly I would like Liverpool to be victorious at the end. Klopp also deserves that before leaving.

[TastyChillySauce00]

The thing is, technically speaking Man City is third, that is what the standings are showing literally right now, and yet people still think that Man City has the highest chance to win. That should be good enough to provide you how strong they are. There are two other teams top of them and both of those teams are great teams and yet we are talking about something that is still quite different in many ways. I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on what to do.

I believe that we are going to do fine with Liverpool but Arsenal may actually lose out. Liverpool is not an easy piece and Man City knows this very well, if you ask them how much chance they have, they would say a number less than what people think of them.

Bookmakers still continued to favour Manchester City the most for the title but it looks like they have dropped them to the second place now.

Because the current odds: Liverpool - 2.10  Manchester City - 2.75  Arsenal - 3.25

It was changed compared to the last month when city was still leading the competition with around 2.00, how lucky people who took liverpool as a candidate to win the competition caused by the old odds was greater than the current odds caused by liverpool has not yet lead the competition like this time.
The odds can change anytime depending on what the result from the upcoming weeks. I expect that if city will comeback stronger and arsenal will be bottling some matches. It's hard to understand liverpool's pattern considering the fact that if club is still performing quite well.
The only hope to see salah will be injured again. This will make liverpool lose its power.

Arsenal are still shown as the least favourite which I'm not surprised of. The last time they won the title was 20 years ago in the end. I agree about Liverpool. There have been really great title challenges between them and Manchester City so far.    Honestly I would like Liverpool to be victorious at the end. Klopp also deserves that before leaving.

It's number two but lower odds compared to the city which means bookies are not even feeling confidence to put arsenal as most potential candidate to win this season. I meant the history really affects the odds owned by arsenal since this club bottled the trophy after it was continuously winning any game last season.
I strongly agree if arsenal's odds must be lower than city. The competition is getting even harder for manchester city to defend its PL trophy.

[len01]

The Etihad Stadium is a home for winning top opponents and there's more to this, it becomes more formidable for Manchester City when they starts because they're currently the best team and top favorites. Let not all the praise go to Pep Guardiola and Manchester City, we have Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool, Mikel Arteta and Arsenal. Pep Guardiola was all known to be one of the fierce manager in the English Premier League, he knows his threats and how to handle them. Why blaming Manchester City for the incapacity of accumulating three points against Arsenal.

away or home for top teams or big teams in the EPL sometimes does not provide a guarantee of victory, whereas Arsenal and Man City are part of the big teams in the EPL.
whatever the result in the match at that time, it didn't surprise me and I really understand the draw because both teams both wanted to win the EPL title this season but also didn't want to lose points and in the end both teams appeared very careful.
draw in the match at that time seemed to be the best result for both teams because Arsenal and Man City could still get 1 point, but this draw gave Liverpool the opportunity to be at the top of the standings after successfully getting 3 points from Brighton.
Whatever results Man City and Arsenal get, no one needs to be blamed because there are several factors that encourage these two teams to share points equally and remain in the top 3 positions.
maybe Guardiola is famous for his very precise strategy, but Arteta as Arsenal coach certainly also has an alternative strategy to destroy Guardiola strategy.

[rdbase]

The thing is, technically speaking Man City is third, that is what the standings are showing literally right now, and yet people still think that Man City has the highest chance to win. That should be good enough to provide you how strong they are. There are two other teams top of them and both of those teams are great teams and yet we are talking about something that is still quite different in many ways. I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on what to do.

I believe that we are going to do fine with Liverpool but Arsenal may actually lose out. Liverpool is not an easy piece and Man City knows this very well, if you ask them how much chance they have, they would say a number less than what people think of them.

Bookmakers still continued to favour Manchester City the most for the title but it looks like they have dropped them to the second place now.

Because the current odds: Liverpool - 2.10  Manchester City - 2.75  Arsenal - 3.25

Arsenal are still shown as the least favourite which I'm not surprised of. The last time they won the title was 20 years ago in the end. I agree about Liverpool. There have been really great title challenges between them and Manchester City so far. Honestly I would like Liverpool to be victorious at the end. Klopp also deserves that before leaving.

From what I remember last year they were in a similar situation being behind Arsenal with atleast the same amount of matches left to play in the season. Yet they came out on top despite Arsenal's form which deteriorated in the later stages giving them their triple crown.

Coming away with a goal-less draw against them over the weekend didn't help their spot below both leaders of the table either.