⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Velvet78]

Arne Slot has made a decent start to his Liverpool career. If he keeps the team in the title race until the end of the season, the fans and board will both be satisfied for sure. It would be impressive without making many transfers. 

I can't wait to watch their games against Manchester City and Arsenal both. They are technically shown as the biggest title contenders at the moment. Bookmakers are thinking like that and I don't think it is very different when it comes to people in general too.

I hope Liverpool prove people wrong and stay in the race.    Liverpool or Arsenal, someone should stop Manchester City immediately. I'm really bored of seeing them as the champions every year...

[Palakka]

Chelsea is one of the teams that has very good squad depth at the moment, but they are still not able to show consistent performance in their  game, the defeat to Manchester City at the start of the match was a big blow for Chelsea but they showed an extraordinary comeback in match against Wolves, after we havebig hope because that big win, then Chelsea again got negative results in the conference league and even yesterday we saw how weak the mentality of the Chelsea players was after they failed to win over Crystal Palace, looking at the depth of the squad they currently have, it is possible Chelsea has a strong squad this season, but with the condition that Maresca must be able to improve the mentality of the Chelsea players, however  if their continue to be inconsistent in the match then it is very likely that this season Chelsea will be thrown out of the top 4 zone in end season.

Whenever I hear the name of the Chelsea team, I am proud to predict them.  And his performance is so impressive that even if one does not call him good, he is also forced to call him good.  And as far as their performance is concerned, it is very good and top notch.  I am not saying that they don't lose a single match but their performance is second to none and they are winning most of the matches.  That's why you and others praise them. You are right that Chelsea lost, but if you look at Manchester, they are also a good team.  For this reason, it is difficult to say that Chelsea were weak.  Chelsea are now failing to work hard and try.  It could also be because Chelsea will forget their performance after making a name for themselves.  Yes, I feel the same now that this season Chelsea will not win and will lose matches because they are not using their strengths as they used to.

As a Chelsea fan, you should be proud of everything that Chelsea has achieved so far, but you should also realize that the current Chelsea is not the Chelsea that once won the Champions League, Chelsea golden era has long ended and that's why we can say If currently Todd Boehly is trying to build a new era squad with a different philosophy like the Abramovich era, if we pay attention to the Abramovich era, Chelsea is easy to develop because they continue to regenerate the team without throwing away senior players so we can see that Chelsea is quite tough and has a good mentality, but currently the Chelsea squad contains young players and without support from the mentality and experience of the senior players, so we can see that even though they have a capable squad but they are still very inconsistent in every match, and  this is quite doubtful for me if they can be worthy candidates to be in the top 4 zone in the end season.

[Smack That Ace]

They didn't lose the match because they stepped up with their defense. If they had continued with the way they were playing then they will probably would have lost. However, before i was comparing the performance of Manchester United to be the same with Chelsea but now i can boldly say that Chelsea has improved and now have better performance to Manchester United this season. Even if the winning the league is not assured at least coming out top 5 should be what they should be concerned about. If care is not taken Manchester United will not be going to the Champions league next season. With the way they are playing now there is no hope at all.

Isn't it too early to start comparing the performance of Chelsea and Manchester united. Both clubs aren't playing very well because they haven't won all their three games that they have played. Chelsea has a new management therefore the playing style they used to play before can't be the same as they have new coaching staff and team. We have to give them some time in the season to see if their new playing style is going to get them victory. My hopes aren't that up for them as they didn't get a top striker in the just ended transfer window as they needed one and relying on just Jackson can't guarantee them top 4 finish this season.

It is definitely very early to actually compare both of them against each other. The start has not been good from both of them. But I hope they will be able to turn things around and start performing better.

Let me talk about Manchester United. Honestly it is hard to believe that they are going to turn things around and start performing better, especially when they are showing performances like they did in the last match against Liverpool. They got thrashed. they did not have any chance against Liverpool. I also want to say that the new Liverpool coach seems to be doing things right. Liverpool has started the season very well and got nine points from the first three matches. Anyway, Manchester United does not have a good direction of what they actually want to do. I also don’t think the coach has any idea about what he is doing either.

Chelsea is just not being able to perform well enough because of too many changes in the managerial position. Let’s see what happens in this season for Chelsea.

Duke Khan

[Iranus]

Isn't it too early to start comparing the performance of Chelsea and Manchester united. Both clubs aren't playing very well because they haven't won all their three games that they have played. Chelsea has a new management therefore the playing style they used to play before can't be the same as they have new coaching staff and team. We have to give them some time in the season to see if their new playing style is going to get them victory. My hopes aren't that up for them as they didn't get a top striker in the just ended transfer window as they needed one and relying on just Jackson can't guarantee them top 4 finish this season.

Chelsea and Manchester United have both made less than convincing starts to the season, but the performance of both cannot be compared in just the three matches that have been played. Ten Hag has spent two seasons with Manchester United and is now entering his third year at Old Trafford. Manchester United are still struggling to get back on track, two defeats from three games played are a setback for Manchester United, even though they have just brought in several quality players in the transfer market, but Ten Hag is still having difficulty getting his team on the right track. It seems like Manchester United management must take steps to find a replacement for Ten Hag if they do not want to continue to fall to a lower position in the standings.
Chelsea are starting a new project under the management of Enzo Maresca, the players need to adapt to the tactics used by the coach. Currently Enzo Maresca has not found the best strategy to improve Chelsea performance, they still need time to return to winning ways. Maresca must improve many things to stabilize his team, he must re-analyze his team's mistakes that made it so easy for the opposing team to penetrate his defense area. Chelsea's new era has just begun with Maresca, he must at least prove his worth for one season.

Chelsea and Manchester United are clubs who have been utterly disappointing. I think they have amazing squads, they also brought more squad depth and first team starter quality players. Now both of them had a mediocre to bad start. Manchester United lost two games, against Brighton and Liverpool, and got a very late scrappy win against Fulham. That is not a good start, at any level.

The men in Blues have also had a very unsettling start. They lost 0-2 to City in the season opener, got a great 6-2 win at Chelsea, and played Crystal Palace at home, just to draw 1-1. Now I have to credit Palace, under Glasner they have been amazing, and I think there is more to come. But yes, The London club is definitely the better team squad and individual ability-wise, so no excuse for them to draw a game.

I think they have many differences still, but the mediocrity is common. I hope both of them come back from their adversities, so the league becomes enjoyable for both sets of fans.

[Adiljutt156]

The big match between Manchester United vs Liverpool has started, will the first squad fielded by Erik Ten Hag be able to make them win this match?
Manchester United just suffered a defeat from Brighton last week, now they have to face a stronger club and even though they are playing as hosts, I still think it will be difficult for them to win.
Liverpool is indeed with their new coach, but at least in the first 2 matches they were able to start well, so I think their chances in this match are quite big too. Let's see what both clubs can do. 

Manchester United football team could not perform well in this match and they lose the match by 1 goal and they could do only 1 goal in this match.Welbeck did first goal in this match and made his points in audience and audience liked his goal very much and this goal made him star and he was prominent in this match. Falmer Stadium  was proved to be lucky for Brighton team. Pedro did second goal for his team and his goal decided that his team will win this match. Manchester United team did well to do goal in last minutes but they could not successful to goal. And they lose the match due to their poor performance because the shots of that team were less in number as comparison to opponent team and also shots on target were less and they gave many foules.

One thing to note in that match was that Manchester United were short of goals but there wasn't much of a difference. Where Brighton made 14 short while Manchester United made 11 short. Moreover, the position of Manchester United was rather good in other aspects. But they failed. Towards the end of the match it looked like it would end with a draw but it was not to be as João Pedro win the match by scoring in extra time. Brighton is in a good position this season in terms of team condition. Out of 3 matches, the team has won 2 matches and drawn one to retain the third position in the points table. On the other hand, there is nothing to say about the position of Manchester United. The team cannot stand this season. Unless this situation improves quickly, it will be difficult to expect anything good from them.

Right Brighton football team  body language was good because they prepared well for that match and they did good goals and got good position. Manchester United  team performance is very poor because they lose last two matches and they could be eliminate in this tournament. We did not expect that kind of performance by that team because they always did well in every tournament but in this tournament,they could not give good start to team and after that goalkeeper became very lazy man and he could not stop 2 goals and his team lose the match . They had good possession percentage and they also had good passes in this match but they could not execute well in this match.

[dezoel]

Chelsea not doing great is not really a shock, they keep on getting players and at this point they are making a huge mistake. They have 40+ players on their list, that makes no sense and if they get rid of half of them, the money they can raise from that would be enough to purchase Mbappe and Haaland together, it makes no sense to spend this much money on mostly players that are not good.

Let's see how they will do, but when you consider the amount of money they spent, and then you look at their roster on a game day, and the eleven players they have look basically similar to whoever they are facing. When in reality they should be a lot better if they spend this much, and for the past two years or so they have been just getting whoever they want, that's a bad decision.

[uchegod-21]

Arne Slot has made a decent start to his Liverpool career. If he keeps the team in the title race until the end of the season, the fans and board will both be satisfied for sure. It would be impressive without making many transfers. 

I can't wait to watch their games against Manchester City and Arsenal both. They are technically shown as the biggest title contenders at the moment. Bookmakers are thinking like that and I don't think it is very different when it comes to people in general too.

I hope Liverpool prove people wrong and stay in the race.    Liverpool or Arsenal, someone should stop Manchester City immediately. I'm really bored of seeing them as the champions every year...

Honestly, I counted Liverpool out of the title race contenders for this season. The reason is not far fetched. This is because when Liverpool had their former coach who has been with the club for a long time and have studied the bond and the relationship of the club, they were unable to win the title but they contended. I mean this few seasons ago. If the former coach with a stable squad could not win the English Premier League, I did not see a new coach doing it.

However, there is a big difference between contending for the English Premier League title and winning it. Liverpool might contend for it but I am not sure they will win it. I rather have my expectation in Arsenal.

[pawel7777]

We have a North London derby coming up next Sunday. Tottenham is playing against Arsenal.
Tottenham proved to be a dangerous team last season, but they have trouble stabilising their form right now. After an impressive 4-0 win over Everton, they lost to Newcastle despite being a more dominating team.
Of course bookies are favouring Arsenal with odds at x1.93 (for Tottenham: x3.85).
Arsenal's main rivals for the title race, Man City and Liverpool will both have easy home games the day before, so there will be extra pressure on the Gunners not to fall too much behind them in the table.

[Popkon6]

One thing to note in that match was that Manchester United were short of goals but there wasn't much of a difference. Where Brighton made 14 short while Manchester United made 11 short. Moreover, the position of Manchester United was rather good in other aspects. But they failed. Towards the end of the match it looked like it would end with a draw but it was not to be as João Pedro win the match by scoring in extra time. Brighton is in a good position this season in terms of team condition. Out of 3 matches, the team has won 2 matches and drawn one to retain the third position in the points table. On the other hand, there is nothing to say about the position of Manchester United. The team cannot stand this season. Unless this situation improves quickly, it will be difficult to expect anything good from them.

Right Brighton football team  body language was good because they prepared well for that match and they did good goals and got good position. Manchester United  team performance is very poor because they lose last two matches and they could be eliminate in this tournament. We did not expect that kind of performance by that team because they always did well in every tournament but in this tournament,they could not give good start to team and after that goalkeeper became very lazy man and he could not stop 2 goals and his team lose the match . They had good possession percentage and they also had good passes in this match but they could not execute well in this match.

Manchester United team usually because of some mistakes in the past, their team is completely depleted and they lose with any team. Should Ten Hag change and recruit a new player in the team, the more Manchester United team can do these things, the better the team's fortunes. will change Because they have performed well enough on the field but their game design and counter-attacks are not good, for a long time they have very little ability to reach the ball into the net of the opposing team's goal post. Although a few balls entered the box, Manchester United lacked players to kick. That's why I want to say good design and can finish attacks that's why it's very important to change two people if Manchester United can perform as well as before.

[Hanadawa]

-snip- Liverpool might contend for it but I am not sure they will win it. I rather have my expectation in Arsenal.

Just because Liverpool couldn't win the title with Klopp doesn't mean they can't win the title this season with Arne Slot. I don't think that's how we define the strength of a club. I remember when Di Matteo took over Chelsea and they won the UCL for the first time, CMIIW. Even though Chelsea had never won the UCL with their former coach before.
Many say that Liverpool is still the same as the previous season. But I think I've seen some variations in the attacks and tactics implemented by Arne Slot. And now they are getting positive results with 3 wins. I think Liverpool deserves to be one of the favorites to win. Although I also wouldn't put them at number one because I see City really dominating the EPL this season.

[emrecemsan]

That's why we don't really need Osimhen at all. It'll a disaster if we bring a very expensive striker to play on our club, then this striker becomes another flop. It's Chelsea's homework to dig Jackson's potential, but this may take longer.

Chelsea's domination doesn't show their confidence in intensively attacking Palace's low block. I am aware of how their attackers struggle to pass the defenders of Palace.

I don't think the same mate to tell the truth. I believe Chelsea would still make use of a striker like Osimhen. I'm pretty sure they tried hard to convince Napoli president for a more sensible price than 130 million euros too.

Because Jackson is still not trustworthy just because of scoring 2 times. I wouldn't trust this man while continuing to waste so many goal chances at the same time.    He needs to improve those statistics much more to be more convincing. Besides Chelsea should have focused on only necessary transfers in the latest window. But what did they do instead? They just wanted to sign as many players as possible which has become a meme topic on the internet.


_{Source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-chelsea/transfers/verein/631/saison_id/2024}

[Litzki1990]

Liverpool must accept the fact that they have lost a manager of great quality and will certainly understand the void. The manager who was in charge for a long time and after being in charge, he deliberately stepped away from the responsibility of Liverpool, but the new manager who took charge of Liverpool cannot be said to be applying a brand new strategy. In many cases we see the current manager managing the team with the same strategy that the former manager of Liverpool used to manage the players. The former technique has some advantages in managing teams. Most of Liverpool's players are old, Klopp has been training them for a long time, so if the players play with that strategy, it will be easier for them to understand. But the most challenging thing for the current manager this season is to get Liverpool's current team to at least a good position in the Premier League.

To be fair, they are not in bad situation at the moment, I understand that it may look like that but for the time being but Arne Slot doesn't feel like he is a bad manager at all, he is doing fine and I bet that he will continue to do fine for a while longer. Losing Klopp is something that may look like it's something terrible but at the end of the day it's going to be a bad situation if they didn't get anyone great, instead they got a great manager and thanks to that they are doing fine.

Arne Slot has been doing great so far and feels like they are going to see this season go great as well, which is why I believe that we can see much better results. The reality is that we can't really assume that Arne is bad just because they had Klopp before, who knows maybe Arne Slot will get much more trophies with them than Klopp, who knows? Right now he had only a few games with Liverpool and so far all of them has been great, this is why I think they can be very happy.

Liverpool is a traditional club of English Premier League and we all know about the achievements of Liverpool before but their performance has not been good in the last few seasons but under the hands of the new manager they can definitely do better this season.

Erne Slott replaces former Liverpool manager Klopp, a manager we discussed when he took over that his team would be difficult to manage at first. But he has proved us wrong and he is prioritizing the former manager's strategy as well as managing the team in his own way and he is trying to get the maximum performance out of the players and he has been successful so far. Now let's see if this manager can maintain this consistency of performance for Liverpool. If Liverpool can finish in a good position at the end of the season, the management fans will surely appreciate it.

[Docnaster]

-snip- Liverpool might contend for it but I am not sure they will win it. I rather have my expectation in Arsenal.

Just because Liverpool couldn't win the title with Klopp doesn't mean they can't win the title this season with Arne Slot. I don't think that's how we define the strength of a club. I remember when Di Matteo took over Chelsea and they won the UCL for the first time, CMIIW. Even though Chelsea had never won the UCL with their former coach before.
Many say that Liverpool is still the same as the previous season. But I think I've seen some variations in the attacks and tactics implemented by Arne Slot. And now they are getting positive results with 3 wins. I think Liverpool deserves to be one of the favorites to win. Although I also wouldn't put them at number one because I see City really dominating the EPL this season.

Before the start of the English Premier League campaign, I had predicted that Arsenal possesses more chances of winning the English Premier League title this season than Liverpool and that was because I thought it'll take time for the new manager of Liverpool to adapt system of football in the league but to my big surprise, Arne Slot in his first three have been able to grab all three points as well as not conceding a single goal. So right now, I consider Liverpool one of the top strongest contenders for the English Premier League title this season.
Arsenal under Mikel Arteta in the last three seasons have been exceptional but their failure to remain consistent from beginning of the season till the end have denied them the opportunity of winning the league under Arteta. I expected them to make significant additions during the summer transfer window especially in the top 9 striker's position so they can have better options in that very position but it seems the club manager is okay with what he has already. Between Arsenal and Liverpool, it'll be difficult to choose who I think stands a better chance of winning the league but if I must choose, I'll go for Arne Slot's Liverpool.

[Alpha Marine]

Arne Slot has made a decent start to his Liverpool career. If he keeps the team in the title race until the end of the season, the fans and board will both be satisfied for sure. It would be impressive without making many transfers. 

I know it's a little too early to judge but from what I've seen, he seems like a man that knows what he's doing. I didn't take his first two games in the league that seriously but after the United game, he has my attention. He totally outsmarted Ten Hag. He pressed better, knows how to hold on to the ball, knows how to win the ball back and they created a lot of chances. That game should have easily ended 5-0 in favour of Liverpool if they took their chances.
Then what I find very impressive about his team is how they were able to keep United quiet. They made sure Manchester United doesn't create a lot of chances. The lack of quality squad depth might be their only problem this season.

I hope Liverpool prove people wrong and stay in the race.    Liverpool or Arsenal, someone should stop Manchester City immediately. I'm really bored of seeing them as the champions every year...

As I said, Liverpool does not have the squad to sustain them for a full season. There is the champions league, Premier league, Caraboa cup and FA cup. Then let's remember that there are more and tougher games in the Champions League mow.
It's going to be difficult to compete with Man City for the league in those conditions. I still see Man City as the winners of the EPL because they even look better this season and Rodri hasn't even returned.

[mammusu]

-snip- Liverpool might contend for it but I am not sure they will win it. I rather have my expectation in Arsenal.

Just because Liverpool couldn't win the title with Klopp doesn't mean they can't win the title this season with Arne Slot. I don't think that's how we define the strength of a club. I remember when Di Matteo took over Chelsea and they won the UCL for the first time, CMIIW. Even though Chelsea had never won the UCL with their former coach before.
Many say that Liverpool is still the same as the previous season. But I think I've seen some variations in the attacks and tactics implemented by Arne Slot. And now they are getting positive results with 3 wins. I think Liverpool deserves to be one of the favorites to win. Although I also wouldn't put them at number one because I see City really dominating the EPL this season.

Arsenal in the last two seasons have shown their best performance in the competition for the title, while Liverpool we can see how in the last few seasons they have been in poor condition and have often experienced inconsistencies in their play so far, so it is natural that there are those who doubt Liverpool ability in competition for the title this season, but I think what @hanadawa said is true at this time, Liverpool Klopp era has ended with unsatisfactory achievements at the end of his term last season, but this does not guarantee that Arne Slot will not be win the season trophy, altthough it's too early to say but I think Liverpool performance and play this season have improved drastically.

[swogerino]

Liverpool is truly convincing in the first three games of the Premier League as for Manchester City we know how strong they are, yet it is one of those rare cases where Liverpool starts in full power and is yet to concede a goal while crushing Manchester United at Old Trafford which is quite an achievement for them. Liverpool have suffered already in the previous seasons in the first few games of the Premier League and in the end those seasons did not end well as we know but right now they are having a great form and as I said it is not a coincidence because you simply cannot beat that easily 0-3 in their home a team like Manchester United which leads to me to my next question unanswered from months now, when is Ten Haag going to be sacked?

[Oluwa-btc]

They are still lacking one very precious thing: consistency.    This is like a big obstacle that they just can't get over it. It doesn't matter how good they play unless they get wins more often. It is that simple yeah.

Palmer and Madueke are the best players in the squad right now. Jackson is also starting to give good signals recently. I hope these positive things would lead to some good winning streak in the near future.

When it comes to the manager change, I said it a thousand times... Pochettino was doing great in the last times of the previous season. They won many games and climbed many positions. But still he ended up with getting sacked. So wrong decision... 

They don't just lack consistency but also they lack a good defense truthfully. I don't know if I'm the only one seeing that loophole in that Chelsea side. Well, in the case of the consistency, I'd say that this is just the first three games if the season and that they still have enough room for improvements.
How consistent can Madueke contribute what he did for Chelsea against Wolverhampton with other big clubs? That we don't know, I can vouch for Cole Palmer as a player who's more consistent but not Nicholas Jackson and Noni Madueke. I still see Chelsea selling him during the January transfer window or next season. Enzo Maresca at least knows what it means like to win a trophy, Mauricio Pochetino might be good but he can't boast of winning a trophy. Chelsea football club has a good history when it comes to Italian managers. I'm sure Enzo Maresca would perform.

[Farma]

-snip- Liverpool might contend for it but I am not sure they will win it. I rather have my expectation in Arsenal.

Just because Liverpool couldn't win the title with Klopp doesn't mean they can't win the title this season with Arne Slot. I don't think that's how we define the strength of a club. I remember when Di Matteo took over Chelsea and they won the UCL for the first time, CMIIW. Even though Chelsea had never won the UCL with their former coach before.
Many say that Liverpool is still the same as the previous season. But I think I've seen some variations in the attacks and tactics implemented by Arne Slot. And now they are getting positive results with 3 wins. I think Liverpool deserves to be one of the favorites to win. Although I also wouldn't put them at number one because I see City really dominating the EPL this season.

Doubts about Liverpool I think are reasonable because Arne Slot has only been their coach this season and from what has happened it has not proven that Arne Slot has succeeded in making Liverpool better, there will be a long journey that must be proven by Arne Slot and to add Liverpool to the list of favorites to win the title with Man City and Arsenal I think it is still not appropriate, it is still too early.
It must also be remembered that Liverpool's squad this season has not had many changes, Arne Slot continues what Klopp has built so far so I really doubt that they can consistently show their best performance like they did at the beginning of this season.

[Ruttoshi]

-snip- Liverpool might contend for it but I am not sure they will win it. I rather have my expectation in Arsenal.

Just because Liverpool couldn't win the title with Klopp doesn't mean they can't win the title this season with Arne Slot. I don't think that's how we define the strength of a club. I remember when Di Matteo took over Chelsea and they won the UCL for the first time, CMIIW. Even though Chelsea had never won the UCL with their former coach before.
Many say that Liverpool is still the same as the previous season. But I think I've seen some variations in the attacks and tactics implemented by Arne Slot. And now they are getting positive results with 3 wins. I think Liverpool deserves to be one of the favorites to win. Although I also wouldn't put them at number one because I see City really dominating the EPL this season.

Arsenal in the last two seasons have shown their best performance in the competition for the title, while Liverpool we can see how in the last few seasons they have been in poor condition and have often experienced inconsistencies in their play so far, so it is natural that there are those who doubt Liverpool ability in competition for the title this season, but I think what @hanadawa said is true at this time, Liverpool Klopp era has ended with unsatisfactory achievements at the end of his term last season, but this does not guarantee that Arne Slot will not be win the season trophy, altthough it's too early to say but I think Liverpool performance and play this season have improved drastically.

It is when the season has gone far maybe in the middle of it, that we would know if Liverpool has the strength like last season to be very close with Arsenal and Manchester city or not. ALOT of things are happening now that should not be used to judge a club's performance.

From the look of things, it is clear that Liverpool are in a high spirit of winning their matches but I don't think that Arne Slot will come from nowhere to win the league when City and Arsenal are there, if that happens it means that Slot is a genius.

[samuraijin]

Chelsea not doing great is not really a shock, they keep on getting players and at this point they are making a huge mistake. They have 40+ players on their list, that makes no sense and if they get rid of half of them, the money they can raise from that would be enough to purchase Mbappe and Haaland together, it makes no sense to spend this much money on mostly players that are not good.

Let's see how they will do, but when you consider the amount of money they spent, and then you look at their roster on a game day, and the eleven players they have look basically similar to whoever they are facing. When in reality they should be a lot better if they spend this much, and for the past two years or so they have been just getting whoever they want, that's a bad decision.

It is not surprising to everyone with Chelsea's performance in the last few seasons until now, they have been inconsistent and I agree with you about wasting money just for players they shouldn't buy, not only Chelsea, Man United is the same as Chelsea even though they are considered a rich club, spending that much money is not a big deal for them, but on the other hand they are not aware that this will end in their financial crisis in the future, if they continue to buy players who are not useful for the club's growth then a crisis will hit Chelsea, of course there must be a change in the problem of recruiting players in choosing players who are truly useful for the team and can bring change to Chelsea's game, I hope Chelsea is aware of this condition in every season experiencing a significant decline.