⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Stable090]

I wonder what would happen if no players received red cards in that match and both teams played with their full squads. Perhaps people wouldn't think Chelsea was bad. But just because anything can happen on the field that caused Chelsea to lose doesn't mean it's all over. There are still many matches left, and losing to Man United is not the end, but a good start for Chelsea to rise stronger. In fact, Chelsea is still above Man United in the standings.

What affected Chelsea in the match was the red card which they received. Chelsea received red card in the early minutes of the match, with disorganized Maresca in the match, and he ended up making substitution which he wasn’t suppose to make, and I won’t blame him so much, he was kind of confused, and nobody expected the red card which Chelsea received.

If the two teams didn’t receive red card in the match, then I will say if Chelsea would have won the match, because Chelsea performance is better than Manchester United performance currently, am not really satisfied with the way Chelsea are playing, but we can’t compare Manchester United performance with Chelsea, if the two teams had played without red card, then Chelsea would have won the match.

[ejikeme24]

I wonder what would happen if no players received red cards in that match and both teams played with their full squads. Perhaps people wouldn't think Chelsea was bad. But just because anything can happen on the field that caused Chelsea to lose doesn't mean it's all over. There are still many matches left, and losing to Man United is not the end, but a good start for Chelsea to rise stronger. In fact, Chelsea is still above Man United in the standings.

Exactly the point, instead of saying that chelsea would have win the match if not for the sake of the red card that was given to them is better you just say that (you wonder what would have happened) because the both teams played. most of the chelsea fans were making it look as if the wining is not supposed to be given to manchester united, If not for the pressure did you think the goalkeeper would've got into trouble? of course he did that do to pressure. And in football we know that the only thing that triggers most players to make unnecessary mistake is pressure, once you're pressured you will be forced to do something that you don't even intend to do.

[Agbe]

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Exactly the point, instead of saying that chelsea would have win the match if not for the sake of the red card that was given to them is better you just say that (you wonder what would have happened) because the both teams played. most of the chelsea fans were making it look as if the wining is not supposed to be given to manchester united, If not for the pressure did you think the goalkeeper would've got into trouble? of course he did that do to pressure. And in football we know that the only thing that triggers most players to make unnecessary mistake is pressure, once you're pressured you will be forced to do something that you don't even intend to do.

Sometimes it's hard to accept the fact that your team lost to a better rivals and I am suspecting that Chelsea fans are pained by the fact that Manchester United won this game the poor form that Manchester United finds itself, Chelsea collecting a red card should not be an excuse for Chelsea for losing this game because obviously united won this game knowing that losing a game of this magnitude will not be a good one for the reputation of the United team.

[AYOBA]

There is still doubt whether Chelsea are the best team in the Premier League this season. No one can become the best team by winning the FIFA World Cup. In the last match, Chelsea were unlucky to lose their main goalkeeper in the 5th minute of the match. Even Manchester United took advantage of Chelsea's 10-man team in a very short time. United took the lead in the match by creating a 2-0 goal gap in the first half. But in the extra time of the first half, both teams became equal teams of 10 men and the game regained an even rivalry. In the second half, Chelsea was able to reduce the gap by only 1 goal and lost the match. No team is the best or neglected yet. All still have a good chance to return to consistency.

We all know that this season Chelsea have improved a little bit compared to their last season's performances, but I think it’s too early to choose them as the favorite team in the Premier League, or do you forget that this season there are a lot of teams that are well prepared to compete for the league? And that’s why we’re expecting the competition to be very tough this season.

As it stands now, Liverpool has already taken the lead with the highest points at the top of the table, but that doesn’t mean that they will be able to remain in the top position forever, because they are only ahead of Arsenal and other teams by just 5 points, and when those teams begin to win almost every one of their matches now, Liverpool will be in a little bit of pressure.

[Africolo]

We all know that this season Chelsea have improved a little bit compared to their last season's performances, but I think it’s too early to choose them as the favorite team in the Premier League, or do you forget that this season there are a lot of teams that are well prepared to compete for the league? And that’s why we’re expecting the competition to be very tough this season.

Not sure about Chelsea improvements just yet, I think they just had some early good fixtures cause they've lost points in every big games they've played in this season. Same way they struggled to win against big teams last season.

The defence can't even keep a cleansheet against nobody. Think they still have a lot to do to be up there.

[Nightwatchmare]

Arsenal was superior to Manchester City by far, this Manchester City is not longer what it was, Guardiola cant find the path to follow and i start to think he cant find the correct players to develop his way of playing, he is in BIG trouble right now, all his glass castle is falling apart.

I hope to see him leaving, we have enough of him there.

Manchester City's unstoppable days are over. Arsenal could have dropped three points in this match despite playing well, but a point later on saved the day for Arsenal.If there had been a little more time in the match, Arsenal would have easily scored.
Manchester City was the team that played poorly and got a point. We'll see Guardiola's departure at the end of this season, and I think he's already planning a new transformation.

After Manchester City's poor performance last season and Manchester City failing to bounce back to how they used to play under coach Pep Guardiola, i agree with you that Manchester City's unstoppable days are over because they are still struggling in the premier league this season. I watched the Arsenal vs Manchester City game, and with the way Arsenal gained full dominance in the match, Arsenal would have scored another goal and defeated Manchester City if there were enough time after Arsenal equalised against Manchester City because Manchester City players were under pressure.

[TastyChillySauce00]

Arsenal was superior to Manchester City by far, this Manchester City is not longer what it was, Guardiola cant find the path to follow and i start to think he cant find the correct players to develop his way of playing, he is in BIG trouble right now, all his glass castle is falling apart.

I hope to see him leaving, we have enough of him there.

Joke of the day, calling Pep is in trouble is obviously BS. Why don't you even call Arteta is in the worsen situation than pep caused by he won nothing^{(Major trophy)} after almost 1 billion spent?  

Stop being delusional, and accept the fact!  

[Xcode7]

Arsenal was superior to Manchester City by far, this Manchester City is not longer what it was, Guardiola cant find the path to follow and i start to think he cant find the correct players to develop his way of playing, he is in BIG trouble right now, all his glass castle is falling apart.

I hope to see him leaving, we have enough of him there.

Manchester City's unstoppable days are over. Arsenal could have dropped three points in this match despite playing well, but a point later on saved the day for Arsenal.If there had been a little more time in the match, Arsenal would have easily scored.
Manchester City was the team that played poorly and got a point. We'll see Guardiola's departure at the end of this season, and I think he's already planning a new transformation.

After Manchester City's poor performance last season and Manchester City failing to bounce back to how they used to play under coach Pep Guardiola, i agree with you that Manchester City's unstoppable days are over because they are still struggling in the premier league this season. I watched the Arsenal vs Manchester City game, and with the way Arsenal gained full dominance in the match, Arsenal would have scored another goal and defeated Manchester City if there were enough time after Arsenal equalised against Manchester City because Manchester City players were under pressure.

It's too early to conclude that. We have to look at Manchester City's overall performance since the start of the season, and I don't see them overcoming their difficult period yet. In fact, I think Pep Guardiola still has a lot to improve, especially maintaining consistent performance.

Manchester City is a strong team and should be considered a favorite and in contention for the title. However, last season they experienced a decline with many problems, and those problems seem to persist this season. I'm not drawing any conclusions from the result against Arsenal. I think we should look at several of Manchester City's matches first.

[Jostern]

Arsenal was superior to Manchester City by far, this Manchester City is not longer what it was, Guardiola cant find the path to follow and i start to think he cant find the correct players to develop his way of playing, he is in BIG trouble right now, all his glass castle is falling apart.

I hope to see him leaving, we have enough of him there.

Joke of the day, calling Pep is in trouble is obviously BS. Why don't you even call Arteta is in the worsen situation than pep caused by he won nothing^{(Major trophy)} after almost 1 billion spent?  

Stop being delusional, and accept the fact!  

Arsenal fans are the most delusional fans I’ve ever seen in football, I was very happy that Pep Guardiola played Arsenal to their own game, so they will feel how other teams feel, when they are playing a low block game against teams, Last season when they went on away to Manchester City, this was the same approach Arteta had when he scored he was defending, This season when Arsenal played against Liverpool this was the same approach they had, they were only interested in playing a draw and unfortunately for them Liverpool scored against them, if Arsenal had scored Liverpool first in that game, they would’ve gone to playing a low block game, they had the same approach against Manchester United, people are now saying they Arsenal are strong defensively why are they strong defensively because they are defensively minded team.

I’m very impressed with Pep Guardiola approach in that game, so they will also feel how other teams feel when they play that style of football, they were even fortunate to get a draw, they deserved to have loose that game.

[Bigjoe33]

Arsenal fans are the most delusional fans I’ve ever seen in football, I was very happy that Pep Guardiola played Arsenal to their own game, so they will feel how other teams feel, when they are playing a low block game against teams, Last season when they went on away to Manchester City, this was the same approach Arteta had when he scored he was defending, This season when Arsenal played against Liverpool this was the same approach they had, they were only interested in playing a draw and unfortunately for them Liverpool scored against them, if Arsenal had scored Liverpool first in that game, they would’ve gone to playing a low block game, they had the same approach against Manchester United, people are now saying they Arsenal are strong defensively why are they strong defensively because they are defensively minded team.

I’m very impressed with Pep Guardiola approach in that game, so they will also feel how other teams feel when they play that style of football, they were even fortunate to get a draw, they deserved to have loose that game.

My dear, it's football and every team has a way they want to play to get victory. Even though to a certain extent some Arsenal fans do not like the approach of Arteta presently towards their opponents yard, they would keep working it out till it works perfectly. I also want to add that football is not a thing of feelings, like you said, that you were very happy that city had to play Arsenal to there game so that they would feel the same way they make other teams feel. You make me smile. All I can is that all teams go to match with one feeling in mind, thats to win the match. Saying that Arsenal went to a draw against Liverpool is another blunder, how can they go for a possible draw for a team that hasn't won them for few seasons. It's just football, it's either you win, draw or lose.

For me, I would want  Arsenal to keep the pressure up and always high, beecausw tey have all it takes and quality players, and a nice sub power too. What stoos them from always pushing maybe team strategy and instructions from the manager, and that's just it. With time, things and pattern can also change too.

But for the records, there is nothing an Arsenal fan would exhibit now that all other teams and or fans don't do. They are even worst.

[Pandorak]

It's too early to conclude that. We have to look at Manchester City's overall performance since the start of the season, and I don't see them overcoming their difficult period yet. In fact, I think Pep Guardiola still has a lot to improve, especially maintaining consistent performance.

Manchester City is a strong team and should be considered a favorite and in contention for the title. However, last season they experienced a decline with many problems, and those problems seem to persist this season. I'm not drawing any conclusions from the result against Arsenal. I think we should look at several of Manchester City's matches first.

I am still waiting for meaningful changes at Manchester City, particularly in terms of their defence. Pep Guardiola, as a coach with extensive experience, surely understands his team's weaknesses. Improvements have been made, but no significant changes are yet apparent. Hope remains for those who never give up. I hope Manchester City can perform better, unlike last season, which was filled with disappointment. Let us not wait for City to rise again after a difficult period filled with even greater pressure, now is the best time to prove that City is still capable of competing with other major clubs.

[dezoel]

These Wilson Isidor type of thing really makes the prices go up so much. These type of players end up with a good season, score a bunch of goals, and bigger teams just pay a shit ton of money to get them. It didn't happen to Vardy, but it does happen to a lot of people. Like look at Mbuemo or Sesko, how many goals do they have in the past 5 years? Not much, they just have good year (Sesko hasn't even had that yet) and they end up with a lot of high fee to be sold.

This should be the troublesome. If you do this, then nothing else changes, if you do that and keep paying a lot for players who had just one good season, you will fail. I hope this dude doesn't go to some other team for 80 million and fail like many others did, and just stay at his level.

[Velvet78]

Could this be the week Liverpool's winning streak to end?

This is what I'm wondering about their away game against Crystal Palace this Saturday. As a reminder, currently they are the only other team with no losses except Liverpool in the league so far...  

They have even conceded only 2 goals in 5 games. Their defenders are in a really good shape. I wonder what Arne Slot's plan will be to break their solid defense. I think Liverpool will lose points finally this week.

[Sims25]

Could this be the week Liverpool's winning streak to end?

This is what I'm wondering about their away game against Crystal Palace this Saturday. As a reminder, currently they are the only other team with no losses except Liverpool in the league so far...  

They have even conceded only 2 goals in 5 games. Their defenders are in a really good shape. I wonder what Arne Slot's plan will be to break their solid defense. I think Liverpool will lose points finally this week.

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With the way Liverpool played against Burnley, they might have a hard time breaking through the Crystal Palace defence.
Palace back four have been solid so far and Guehi who has been a target for Liverpool would want to play his heart out.

[rachael9385]

Could this be the week Liverpool's winning streak to end?

This is what I'm wondering about their away game against Crystal Palace this Saturday. As a reminder, currently they are the only other team with no losses except Liverpool in the league so far...  

They have even conceded only 2 goals in 5 games. Their defenders are in a really good shape. I wonder what Arne Slot's plan will be to break their solid defense. I think Liverpool will lose points finally this week.

I also thought about this option, there might be a chance of this game ending as a draw because Liverpool have won their last five games and even though this match will give them more points they don't really need it that much. Winning 5 consecutive games isn't easy and they might be exhausted. Crystal palace would definitely use home advantage over them, this is a risky option but there's a chance it might happen

[Spaceman1000$]

Arsenal was superior to Manchester City by far, this Manchester City is not longer what it was, Guardiola cant find the path to follow and i start to think he cant find the correct players to develop his way of playing, he is in BIG trouble right now, all his glass castle is falling apart.

I hope to see him leaving, we have enough of him there.

Manchester City's unstoppable days are over. Arsenal could have dropped three points in this match despite playing well, but a point later on saved the day for Arsenal.If there had been a little more time in the match, Arsenal would have easily scored.
Manchester City was the team that played poorly and got a point. We'll see Guardiola's departure at the end of this season, and I think he's already planning a new transformation.

After Manchester City's poor performance last season and Manchester City failing to bounce back to how they used to play under coach Pep Guardiola, i agree with you that Manchester City's unstoppable days are over because they are still struggling in the premier league this season. I watched the Arsenal vs Manchester City game, and with the way Arsenal gained full dominance in the match, Arsenal would have scored another goal and defeated Manchester City if there were enough time after Arsenal equalised against Manchester City because Manchester City players were under pressure.

It's too early to conclude that. We have to look at Manchester City's overall performance since the start of the season, and I don't see them overcoming their difficult period yet. In fact, I think Pep Guardiola still has a lot to improve, especially maintaining consistent performance.

Manchester City is a strong team and should be considered a favorite and in contention for the title. However, last season they experienced a decline with many problems, and those problems seem to persist this season. I'm not drawing any conclusions from the result against Arsenal. I think we should look at several of Manchester City's matches first.

If a team falls out of consistency, it takes a lot of time for them to come back to winning ways, in some cases, some clubs even fall out outrightly without coming. Pep Guardiola will not automatically take the center stage in terms of consistency, because the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool have occupied that position as for now. Pep Guardiola style of play has been understudied in recent times by coaches, except he comes up with a new pattern of play, else he might be still struggling with his winning, although he has amazing players that are play makers, just that he hasn't gotten his tactics correctly.

[Miles2006]

Arsenal was superior to Manchester City by far, this Manchester City is not longer what it was, Guardiola cant find the path to follow and i start to think he cant find the correct players to develop his way of playing, he is in BIG trouble right now, all his glass castle is falling apart.

I hope to see him leaving, we have enough of him there.

Joke of the day, calling Pep is in trouble is obviously BS. Why don't you even call Arteta is in the worsen situation than pep caused by he won nothing^{(Major trophy)} after almost 1 billion spent?  

Stop being delusional, and accept the fact!  

Arsenal fans are the most delusional fans I’ve ever seen in football, I was very happy that Pep Guardiola played Arsenal to their own game, so they will feel how other teams feel, when they are playing a low block game against teams, Last season when they went on away to Manchester City, this was the same approach Arteta had when he scored he was defending, This season when Arsenal played against Liverpool this was the same approach they had, they were only interested in playing a draw and unfortunately for them Liverpool scored against them, if Arsenal had scored Liverpool first in that game, they would’ve gone to playing a low block game, they had the same approach against Manchester United, people are now saying they Arsenal are strong defensively why are they strong defensively because they are defensively minded team.

Be honest with yourself, Arsenal played Man city big time although Pep had a plan and it worked perfectly by scoring the first goal, Man City played a defensive game this time around besides Arsenal had more possession. Man city had an opportunity to secure the points but, Arsenal managed to pull through and I’m so happy they did after all the effort. I remembered Manchester City played draw against Arsenal at Etihad Stadium even after Trossard got a red card, viewing the stats Man City dominated by playing with a man down. The fact J. Stones scored during extra time made the whole team happy even in this situation so accepting the fact Arsenal played well at home is not a big deal besides Manchester city didn’t perform well I guess they need more improvement compared to last season.

[Stormisover]

Arsenal was superior to Manchester City by far, this Manchester City is not longer what it was, Guardiola cant find the path to follow and i start to think he cant find the correct players to develop his way of playing, he is in BIG trouble right now, all his glass castle is falling apart.

I hope to see him leaving, we have enough of him there.

Manchester City's unstoppable days are over. Arsenal could have dropped three points in this match despite playing well, but a point later on saved the day for Arsenal.If there had been a little more time in the match, Arsenal would have easily scored.
Manchester City was the team that played poorly and got a point. We'll see Guardiola's departure at the end of this season, and I think he's already planning a new transformation.

After Manchester City's poor performance last season and Manchester City failing to bounce back to how they used to play under coach Pep Guardiola, i agree with you that Manchester City's unstoppable days are over because they are still struggling in the premier league this season. I watched the Arsenal vs Manchester City game, and with the way Arsenal gained full dominance in the match, Arsenal would have scored another goal and defeated Manchester City if there were enough time after Arsenal equalised against Manchester City because Manchester City players were under pressure.

It's too early to conclude that. We have to look at Manchester City's overall performance since the start of the season, and I don't see them overcoming their difficult period yet. In fact, I think Pep Guardiola still has a lot to improve, especially maintaining consistent performance.

Manchester City is a strong team and should be considered a favorite and in contention for the title. However, last season they experienced a decline with many problems, and those problems seem to persist this season. I'm not drawing any conclusions from the result against Arsenal. I think we should look at several of Manchester City's matches first.

Smiles you really think so? What have you observed in their last 3 matches? What pep is experiencing now is rebuilding and so far so good they're kind of keeping to the right track, do you know what it takes for a coach to lost his best of players then recruit new ones that have not been into that league and their pattern of play, to me I don't see anything wrong with the Manchester City team because it's not an easy task, at least he's not sure Alex Ferguson that sold most of his key players but still won the league, we can't expect such from pep, so Manchester City is still doing well let's just wait and see.

[ITExpert]

I had high hopes for Chelsea at the beginning of the season, but it looks like it's going to be that kind of team that is going to be very unpredictable throughout the season (win matches they are not expected to win, lose matches they are expected to win)
Tonight against United was the type of Match Chelsea would win given the issues Manchester United is going through but guess what… They got an early red card and that was it.

Chelsea is one of those teams who are included in the best teams. So while keeping this fact in mind the expectations from the good teams are also sat high. So the failure of expectations results in great disappointment. And I think Chelsea is the most unpredictable team they make the fans surprised with their performance. Because the match  with Manchester United it was highly expected that Chelsea will easily manage their success in this match . But the results are surprising as Chelsea faced the failure. Because the team with Chelsea has to fight is not as strong as they are. Manchester United is the team faced their worst of time and they are trying to be in a good position again. But now Chelsea needs to learn from their mistakes and focus to perform well and maintain the consistent behaviour of being good.

[Dzwaafu11]

It's too early to conclude that. We have to look at Manchester City's overall performance since the start of the season, and I don't see them overcoming their difficult period yet. In fact, I think Pep Guardiola still has a lot to improve, especially maintaining consistent performance.

Manchester City is a strong team and should be considered a favorite and in contention for the title. However, last season they experienced a decline with many problems, and those problems seem to persist this season. I'm not drawing any conclusions from the result against Arsenal. I think we should look at several of Manchester City's matches first.

I am still waiting for meaningful changes at Manchester City, particularly in terms of their defence. Pep Guardiola, as a coach with extensive experience, surely understands his team's weaknesses. Improvements have been made, but no significant changes are yet apparent. Hope remains for those who never give up. I hope Manchester City can perform better, unlike last season, which was filled with disappointment. Let us not wait for City to rise again after a difficult period filled with even greater pressure, now is the best time to prove that City is still capable of competing with other major clubs.

Manchester City will surely get back to fit and perform like they have been doing because, seriously, Manchester City have not known the performance that we expected from them this season, and that is why I’m still curious about them. I don’t think they will perform and be competitive with big clubs like they have been known to. Manchester City still have some weak positions; they need to fix those positions before they can be able to compete with other big clubs. For now, we can’t really say anything much about them because they are not really competitive at the moment.