[SOLVED] Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan!

[SamReomo]

I'm quite happy to see your reply on this thread, we all know that each user who was affected should get refund, not only the Bitcointalk users. If you have received refund requests according to your estimation then that's a good thing but it would be great if you share some details that out of your estimated number how many of those got their refund? I hope you guys are serious about refunding and I hope that each victim who was affected should get their money back.

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[dimonstration]

Many users have filled in the accustion thread, but since DT members were paid to defend Betnomi, nothing happened. So they not even had a fair chance on this forum.
No need to clarify. Everybody knows that Betnomi is a scam from the beginning. I wish people have listened to me from the beginning. There is one case which was posted on the scam accustion topic where Betnomi extortioned a customer with her passport. It is not a big surprise that nobody cared about it. But there are many more accusations. Betnomi did everything to avoid paying customers. Their refund plan is a joke, they only refund people with 25$ in their account. The fact there is a refund plan already prooved they stole a lot of money!

DT is not paid here. A paid use of DT power can be spot by other DT since every issue here requires reference as supporting documents for DT action. I don’t read personally all the scam accusation that you mentioned but most probably all this accusations has no substantial evidence to support accusation against Betnomi.

You will notice that Betnomi received tons of criticism when they left and became silent in the forum for a long time from DT and non-DT members. Just follow my previous suggestion so that every accusation will be reviewed properly based on its evidence.

[bhadz]

However, we are leaving some room for any user who might have missed the announcement. Any future requests will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

You're making me remember like an old casino that also had their announcement here through the forum through their closure. And anyone who had missed the deadline, they've given an extension for the convenience of those that haven't heard the good news that they've made. On your end, this is a commendable move as you're able to solve and give that space for those that have been affected and some testimonial was also written on this thread particularly about the refund. Congratulations for that actions you've made and I hope that most if not all affected users get the refund before your next considered deadline.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

However, we are leaving some room for any user who might have missed the announcement. Any future requests will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

You're making me remember like an old casino that also had their announcement here through the forum through their closure. And anyone who had missed the deadline, they've given an extension for the convenience of those that haven't heard the good news that they've made. On your end, this is a commendable move as you're able to solve and give that space for those that have been affected and some testimonial was also written on this thread particularly about the refund. Congratulations for that actions you've made and I hope that most if not all affected users get the refund before your next considered deadline.

Well, I don't know but morally, there should be no deadline of any kind for cases like this, the company is supposed to keep this offer of refund open for as long as it takes affected user to take notice of the refund initiative, and come around to apply to get his or her refund, the company is not doing an airdrop to their users, neither are they dashing money to their users, the money they are refunding here is the same money belonging to same users which the company initially ran off with, and for what ever reason, they are back here to refund their users they stole from, there shouldnt be any limit or deadline to how long the refund plan should be open, if the company have good intentions of refunding every single affected user, then the refund plan should be open (like I said before) for as long as it take all the affected users to come around and claim back their money.
Except the company's plan is to refund the few persons who may have come around now, and keep the rest of the money for themselves, which I personally will still consider as stealing and won't trust this casino.

[bislom]

To be clear, the refund is not only for Bitcointalk users; it applies to all users on our platform. We had a good estimation of the number of people affected by the closure, and we received refund requests very close to that number. As a result, we are confident that almost everyone affected or with any meaningful amount on the platform has received the message and requested their refund.

We set a deadline for the refund several months ago and didn't receive any new requests for a few weeks. Once again, we are pretty confident in our conclusion. However, we are leaving some room for any user who might have missed the announcement. Any future requests will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

Why did you scam people for more than 50k? Nothing is solved, you are just a big scammer and that is already proven. You will not launch a new site, we will take it down
Stay away from this scam site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[holydarkness]

Many users have posted enough evidence in the past. There was even a case when Betnomi was extortion one of their customers with their passport, but nobody on the forum from de DT group cares about that at the time.

All I see from you are some statements "many" and "many users", nothing concrete and clear. So present the evidence you mention. Any DT will not and should not judge anyone based on a random person from the internet who repeats the mantra "many people scammed".
In the same way, I can also mark you as a scammer and claim that you have deceived many people. And claim that there are many proofs of that. But it doesn't have to be like that.

My words have much more value then all these DT jokes who only got DT because they have friends with DT status and fraud for some money, and yes, you are one of them as well. You don't have any knowledge about the situation and your reaction implicits you are defending Betnomi. You DT members think you are smart, but you are all just a big joke with an IQ of not even 60

If you look at the Betnomi account, you will see several negative feedbacks left by DT members and that is the maximum they can do against someone. I also left them negative feedback and I am certainly not defending them, but trying to defend the common sense that you lack.

This user certainly have a bad experience or two with betnomi. I personally think betnomi is still far faaarrr away from redeeming themselves, the new platform will not and should not be instantly trusted just because they refund their members, but what bislom did is kinda pointless, borderline a witch-hunt, as he spammed many threads, highlighting that betnomi is a scam, even on a resolved cases.

[notblox1]

Solved what?
I never receives any answer why my email address used on betnomi was leaked and why I received countless spam messages promoting some unknown casino scam!
This was never explained and until this day we still dont know what exactly happened with private customer information from people who completed kyc registration on betnomi.

[Stayzor]

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer.  I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462045.0 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out.  I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

I have no faith that the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" will be fair. I did not really get to use the site, before it went offline, and I am barely up on my initial btc and eth deposit.

Betnomi should at very least have paid all deposits back in the refund round this week, and make the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" public for the forum (if this third party review is real at all) when they come.

I hope for an open discussion on the progress of the rest of the refund @betnomi.

[bislom]

Betnomi pretending everyting is solved, while they still have scammed hundres of thousands of euro's which have NOT been refunded.
This site should have a red card. Victims, don't give up!

[bislom]

We have completed the refund process for the final set of withdrawal requests. Out of these, two have been denied due to fraud (account was previously banned). Three of them have been forwarded to the risk management team of our odds feeds and game providers. Apart from these five instances, all other refunds have been 100% completed.

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

It was never our plan to stop Betnomi as it was going amazing before pause but it was my duty to make sure everyone was made whole.

Thank you all for your patience.

GekkeBelg and AHOYBRAUSE, do you mind to do us a favor and confirm this? Check your refund wallet and see if your funds on betnomi have been returned? As the claim above said it's the final set and it's completed, I believe even if yours are in the last of the list, they should be processed by now.

"It was going amazing"
Yes of course it went amazing, since you steal all customer funds and pay out nobody, you scammed everybody so of course your bank account is big.
Grap that Sorsis clown, that fraudster should be in jail!

[holydarkness]

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer.  I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474377.320 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out.  I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

I have no faith that the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" will be fair. I did not really get to use the site, before it went offline, and I am barely up on my initial btc and eth deposit.

Betnomi should at very least have paid all deposits back in the refund round this week, and make the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" public for the forum (if this third party review is real at all) when they come.

I hope for an open discussion on the progress of the rest of the refund @betnomi.

The correct link to your scam accusation thread is this one, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462045.0 To be sure we cover every ground, have you send them the submission email for refund with the format they gave [quoted below] somewhere between the time they announce for refund and the day it's closed?

[...]
Apart from these cases, we are ready to accept and process refund requests. Kindly send an email to refund@betnomi.com with the following details:

Code:

1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

[...]

[Wapfika]

Solved what?
I never receives any answer why my email address used on betnomi was leaked and why I received countless spam messages promoting some unknown casino scam!
This was never explained and until this day we still dont know what exactly happened with private customer information from people who completed kyc registration on betnomi.

It appears here that Betnomi just cherry pick user here to do the refund and not in general. It’s misleading to mark this refund process as solved while not everyone who apply for refund received funds.

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer.  I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474377.320 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out.  I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

It will be helpful if you create a formal scam accusation against Betnomi on scam accusation board. The link you provided is just for a post you made on this specific thread. You can gain more support in the scam accusation board with proper documentation of your case. Some reputable here still didn’t receive refund while the case mark solved which means people will support you with proper evidence.

[Stayzor]

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer.  I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474377.320 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out.  I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

I have no faith that the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" will be fair. I did not really get to use the site, before it went offline, and I am barely up on my initial btc and eth deposit.

Betnomi should at very least have paid all deposits back in the refund round this week, and make the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" public for the forum (if this third party review is real at all) when they come.

I hope for an open discussion on the progress of the rest of the refund @betnomi.

The correct link to your scam accusation thread is this one, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462045.0 To be sure we cover every ground, have you send them the submission email for refund with the format they gave [quoted below] somewhere between the time they announce for refund and the day it's closed?

[...]


Apart from these cases, we are ready to accept and process refund requests. Kindly send an email to refund@betnomi.com with the following details:

Code:

1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

[...]

Yes, I have sent in all requested information. I did so in the first days of the announced refund.

Btw, I updated to the correct link to my scam accusation and can be found above.

[examplens]

We have completed the refund process for the final set of withdrawal requests. Out of these, two have been denied due to fraud (account was previously banned). Three of them have been forwarded to the risk management team of our odds feeds and game providers. Apart from these five instances, all other refunds have been 100% completed.

You have not properly updated the subject of this topic. It should be [SOLVED only two "small amount" cases]

What about this?

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer.  I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462045.0 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out.  I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

I have no faith that the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" will be fair. I did not really get to use the site, before it went offline, and I am barely up on my initial btc and eth deposit.

Betnomi should at very least have paid all deposits back in the refund round this week, and make the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" public for the forum (if this third party review is real at all) when they come.

I hope for an open discussion on the progress of the rest of the refund @betnomi.

[acroman08]

Yes, I have sent in all requested information. I did so in the first days of the announced refund.

Btw, I updated to the correct link to my scam accusation and can be found above.

they mentioned that there was 2 applications were denied and 3 were sent to their "risk management team", it is possible that your refund application was one of the applications that got denied or forwarded to their "risk management team". I'd love to hear what Betnomi have to say about this.

anyway, them editing the title with "solved" is very premature, since there are still cases like yours.

[Hamphser]

Yes, I have sent in all requested information. I did so in the first days of the announced refund.

Btw, I updated to the correct link to my scam accusation and can be found above.

they mentioned that there was 2 applications were denied and 3 were sent to their "risk management team", it is possible that your refund application was one of the applications that got denied or forwarded to their "risk management team". I'd love to hear what Betnomi have to say about this.

anyway, them editing the title with "solved" is very premature, since there are still cases like yours.

You cant stop them on putting up that "SOLVED" into their ANN thread on which they do really believe that they have already cleared up this situation but it turns out that there are still people who dont able to receive their funds on which this is something that havent been resolved at all. We the community do really love to hear out on Betnomi's words in related to this so that at least we the community having
that kind of awareness and being that updated into this one. It is really that hard to clear up things when there are still few people who do make out complaints in regarding with their funds.
Better to put up that word on ANN thread on the time that everything gets resolved out. 

[bislom]

We have completed the refund process for the final set of withdrawal requests. Out of these, two have been denied due to fraud (account was previously banned). Three of them have been forwarded to the risk management team of our odds feeds and game providers. Apart from these five instances, all other refunds have been 100% completed.

You have not properly updated the subject of this topic. It should be [SOLVED only two "small amount" cases]

What about this?

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer.  I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462045.0 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out.  I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

I have no faith that the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" will be fair. I did not really get to use the site, before it went offline, and I am barely up on my initial btc and eth deposit.

Betnomi should at very least have paid all deposits back in the refund round this week, and make the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" public for the forum (if this third party review is real at all) when they come.

I hope for an open discussion on the progress of the rest of the refund @betnomi.

If people winning decent amounts, suddenly their risk management team needs to review. Fucking bullshit. If the bets were lost, Betnomi never conducts a check.
This trick of frauding was used many time, and always when users win, they suddenly place fraudulent bets or cheated of course. Please create the red flag against this scam site. You will get enough support for sure.

[ryzaadit]

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Well these is also bullshit for me.

Why? because some people who are asking about the progress and everything during your Maintenance got Kicked due you are restricted and censorship any topic of your downfall. Now the question, how these guys getting a refund?

They don't even know anything about information.
BTW, any more word from user ? not just once but a lot people confirm these case has been solved. Only seeing one guys the case is not being solved, need more confirmation feedback from user. Since Betnomi credibility and trust based on how they're react and process these things is a little bit complicated and not really smooth. Many things is change.

[Ojima-ojo]

The whole thing is going crazy in here because Betnomi team has stated on the title that they resolved customers' issues and refunded them, but we have a couple of gamblers who are coming out to say that they haven't received any form of reimbursement from the failed betnomi team


At this point, it begins to become more clear of what the betnomi intend to do and if they ever want to regain the trust here and outside, they should better make an open refund process by making all the process to be public and plan to all to see and analyze at any point.

[betnomi]

We are uncertain why people continue to present their opinions as facts. The claim that we hand-select users for refunds is outright silly; every user has been refunded, except the five users we mentioned earlier. For the sake of transparency, we will release the usernames of these five users.

The refund requests of the following two users have been denied due to fraud (and this is not up for debate):

1. hubbypub
2. Pgermaine1413

These users have been forwarded to our external risk management team for verification. We will process or deny their requests based on the outcome of the third-party review.

1. Eggs96
2. faramutsi
3. Anccik
4. nutters0n

Aside from these cases, we are currently in contact with one other user privately and are actively working on resolving their case.

There is no other user or individual to whom any money is owed in any way, shape, or form. If someone has requested a refund and hasn't received it, we encourage them to come forward and provide us with a receipt.