⚽ FIFA Club World Cup 2025 - USA: Discussion Thread ⚽

[Ahli38]

I am looking forward to the PSG vs Seattle Sounders match today. In the first match, PSG won against Atletico Madrid by a margin of 4-0. However, PSG lost against Botafogo in the second match. If they do not win today's match, PSG will not be able to qualify for the next round.
My guess is that PSG will win today by a big margin. Seattle Sounders' defense is quite weak. Luis Enrique will definitely not want to be eliminated in the first round.

I also think that PSG will succeed in getting full points from this match. because I think the Seattle Sounders are not a team that will be strong enough to beat PSG. Moreover, Atletico Madrid also managed to beat Seattle Sounders, so PSG will definitely be able to do it. because we know that Atletico Madrid also lost to PSG.

But I probably wouldn't say it's going to be an easy fight. because still in the Club World Cup there is no club that we can really underestimate. Even in several matches I had to accept that my predictions were not correct. So I now decide to only bet on matches where I really believe in the outcome. And for the Sounders vs PSG match, I'm sure PSG will win.

[MArsland]

Asencio not deserve to play in Real Madrid, in this match he gets red card in early minute, the previous match he committed mistake which make Real Madrid ended up drew against Al Hilal. I wonder which mistake he will do in the upcoming match, maybe score own goal? Jacobo Ramon is even better than Asencio.

Agreed. Ascensio costed his club a lot in the last two games, and deserves no spot to play. He always handled the situation poortly, while we know how he's even older than Dean. Replace him with Rudiger or Jacobo is good enough.

Having him on the pitch makes Madrid's defense a bit fragile.

It is too much to label Ascensio as unworthy of playing in the main squad, even though he seemed to make a mistake but try to look again at the movement before the violation occurred. But that doesn't mean that overall he played badly, there is plenty of time to fix this rather than saying Ascensio is unworthy of playing in Real Madrid. Comeon we have seen this happen many times in football.

Pachuca may look like not too strong of a team but they don’t also look weak that one might assume Real Madrid win them with so much luck on their side, it is very hard sometimes to win such teams especially if the team is still building their best formation to appear with in the next season.
 

Actually, in this match it was also quite reasonable to see Madrid's game pattern which was a little random and not even better than their opponents considering they played with 10 people from the first 10 minutes because Asencio took a shower first because of the red card received so it is quite natural that the scheme that has been arranged must be changed by force in the match that has taken place.

From what I noticed there was a slight change in the game format at Real Madrid and this is the Xabi effect, that will be good news because we are starting to see a clear game scheme, trying to turn on the flow of the ball from the feet, Vinicius also started to work together at least he was not too selfish in this match. Xabi seemed to emphasize his players to control the ball and hopefully it will continue to be better with a scheme like this. The victory over Pacucha is good for motivation but the real challenge has not started at all. Xabi still has to try especially to unite the back line players because Trent and huljsen have just joined so they need to adapt.

The match exciting will occur in the third round against RB Salzburg.

[hyudien]

I watched the match and I feel little bit sad for Al Hilal. They play not so bad but they can’t finish good. I think they must try more hard in next match vs Pachuka. They have to score goals early and don’t miss chances.

If Real Madrid wins, maybe Al Hilal go next round but if draw... oh no, it will be very difficult. This group is very close, all teams fight strong. Football is crazy, anything can happend. I hope Al Hilal not give up and play with big heart next time.

Let’s wait and see

I believe in Al Hilal today and the way they played, they did their best, but unfortunately they couldn’t make the most of those chances, on the other hand Salzburg played skillfully, they fought hard to keep what they got. Now Al Hilal fate is in Madrid hands, but I’m not sure Madrid can beat Salzburg because if you look at their game under Xabi they haven’t found the style they want.

[Lida93]

Even playing with only 10 players from the 7th minute, we managed to score 3 goals and won the game. I know that Pachuca is the weakest opponent in that group, but I had the impression that the coach corrected some things that happened in the last game.



And in this game, even without Mbappe, Real Madrid's attack was good, but the same problem still persists: Vinicius Jr. and Rodrygo can't score goals consistently. They can score goals for a while, but then they go through a dry spell. In today's game, for example, Rodrygo didn't play, but Vinicius, who played, didn't score a goal. I believe that the changes in the attack today are because the coach has already realized that the attack isn't good. Mbappe can't be the only one to score a lot of goals. Other attackers should do the same.

A bit disappointed with how Ascensio being sent off by the referee in the early game. He's still too raw, and have to do better in coming days. He's still so dumb and prefer to see Rudiger as a starter.

Still feel so good to see they still playing full attaking even after they went down with 10 man in on the pitch. Arda and Dean are outstanding in this game.

I also applause Jude's performance, which is exceptional. I can start to see the clear pattern of Madrid.

This is what i wanted to see. They give fair minutes to whole of their players.

What happened to Marco Ascensio in the early minutes of the game could have happened to any player. It's nothing anyone expected to be but it happened anyway, but Real Madrid on the other hand still took hold of the the game even with a man down.

The 3:1 victory they had with the 10 men wasn't anything they couldn't have down considering the quality of the players in the team compared to their opponent they were against. Even a draw for Madrid against such a side (Pachuca) wouldn't have been acceptable under the excuse of Marco Ascensio red card.

[SmartCharpa]

Even playing with only 10 players from the 7th minute, we managed to score 3 goals and won the game. I know that Pachuca is the weakest opponent in that group, but I had the impression that the coach corrected some things that happened in the last game.



And in this game, even without Mbappe, Real Madrid's attack was good, but the same problem still persists: Vinicius Jr. and Rodrygo can't score goals consistently. They can score goals for a while, but then they go through a dry spell. In today's game, for example, Rodrygo didn't play, but Vinicius, who played, didn't score a goal. I believe that the changes in the attack today are because the coach has already realized that the attack isn't good. Mbappe can't be the only one to score a lot of goals. Other attackers should do the same.

Before the game, everyone expected Real Madrid to defeat Pachuca since they were the weakest team in the group, and considering on how they performed in their last game against Salzburg, they lacked the strength to compete with Madrid. But we were afraid after the red card, the match was only starting and Asensio was sent off only 7 minutes into the game. After the red card, I felt like it was over for Real Madrid in this tournament, but they won the match despite playing with 10 men.

However, I'm not sure why Rodrygo didn't play the game, I thought Xabi Alonso was to bring him in the second half when Vinicuis was taken off, but Xabi Alonso substituted in Victor Munõz after Vinicuis subbed off in the 87th minute. Vinicius has scored just few goals since Mbappe arrived last season. I believe Vinicius performance has declined compared to the previous 2 seasons when they won the Champions League. Vinicius and Rodrygo need to improve their goal scoring from next season.

[Liliana1304]

When you see a less than average club, you'd know them. Sometimes when I see how these clubs perform I'd begin to really wonder how they were able to do so well in their domestic leagues but at the same time accept that their leagues are too low that they can't compare.
Pachuca had every opportunity to win the game against Madrid and infact if not for the alertness of Thibaut Courtois, there would have been a hailstorm of goals because according to the stats it showed that he made 10 saves. I think that's the highest number of saves coming from one of top European clubs in this competition and some would argue that it was because Madrid were a man short but I would say that it's just that this guys are good but don't have the confidence to match it.

I feel that Pachuca were not able to get the three points from Madrid simply because of their lack of confidence and also they have a poor defense but that's the same issue plaguing Madrid. Infact I was much more disappointed in Madrid that even though they won they didn't play like people who are 15 time  champions.

[Abbatty]

I am looking forward to the PSG vs Seattle Sounders match today. In the first match, PSG won against Atletico Madrid by a margin of 4-0. However, PSG lost against Botafogo in the second match. If they do not win today's match, PSG will not be able to qualify for the next round.
My guess is that PSG will win today by a big margin. Seattle Sounders' defense is quite weak. Luis Enrique will definitely not want to be eliminated in the first round.

I also think that PSG will succeed in getting full points from this match. because I think the Seattle Sounders are not a team that will be strong enough to beat PSG. Moreover, Atletico Madrid also managed to beat Seattle Sounders, so PSG will definitely be able to do it. because we know that Atletico Madrid also lost to PSG.

But I probably wouldn't say it's going to be an easy fight. because still in the Club World Cup there is no club that we can really underestimate. Even in several matches I had to accept that my predictions were not correct. So I now decide to only bet on matches where I really believe in the outcome. And for the Sounders vs PSG match, I'm sure PSG will win.

For sure I also think PSG will get maximum points in this match, the European champions will beat Seattle sounders, a win which might give them a chance to top the table if Botafogo lose to Atl. Madrid. I don’t think it will be difficult match for the European champions, I see them scoring 3 goals and above in this match.

Seattle sounders are still yet to pick a point in this tournament and I feel they will end the tournament without a point. It been a tough tournament so far and every points matters at this point and that one reason why PSG will take this match very serious.

[Republikcoin.com]

Asencio was too reckless in the early minutes of the match, if the opponent was not Pachuca, the result might have been different, it is very unfortunate that this talented young defender was too emotional, maybe because last season he got a lot of attention from the football public so he was too confident. However, Madrid showed a gap in quality in this match, congratulations Xabi won his first match with Madrid.

Excessive emotion always brings disaster including in football so Real Madrid and other players must also be aware of that at all times because it is true as you said if Real Madrid's opponent was not Pachuca maybe the result of the match would be very different. Because the defense line is a sacred line for any team so that players in that line must not make such fatal mistakes when competing in any competition. I hope Real Madrid can continue to rise without making mistakes because Xabi is fixing Real Madrid slowly for next season.

[leonair]

Even playing with only 10 players from the 7th minute, we managed to score 3 goals and won the game. I know that Pachuca is the weakest opponent in that group, but I had the impression that the coach corrected some things that happened in the last game.



And in this game, even without Mbappe, Real Madrid's attack was good, but the same problem still persists: Vinicius Jr. and Rodrygo can't score goals consistently. They can score goals for a while, but then they go through a dry spell. In today's game, for example, Rodrygo didn't play, but Vinicius, who played, didn't score a goal. I believe that the changes in the attack today are because the coach has already realized that the attack isn't good. Mbappe can't be the only one to score a lot of goals. Other attackers should do the same.

Before the game, everyone expected Real Madrid to defeat Pachuca since they were the weakest team in the group, and considering on how they performed in their last game against Salzburg, they lacked the strength to compete with Madrid. But we were afraid after the red card, the match was only starting and Asensio was sent off only 7 minutes into the game. After the red card, I felt like it was over for Real Madrid in this tournament, but they won the match despite playing with 10 men.

However, I'm not sure why Rodrygo didn't play the game, I thought Xabi Alonso was to bring him in the second half when Vinicuis was taken off, but Xabi Alonso substituted in Victor Munõz after Vinicuis subbed off in the 87th minute. Vinicius has scored just few goals since Mbappe arrived last season. I believe Vinicius performance has declined compared to the previous 2 seasons when they won the Champions League. Vinicius and Rodrygo need to improve their goal scoring from next season.

They did not perform as expected in the previous match and in this match too they got a red card in the first 7 minutes. Then their performance was a bit reduced because they started committing fouls first. Later they played better. Real Madrid was very excited in this match because it depended on this match whether they would be able to go to the next round in FIFA or not. As the match ended with 3-1 goals, they got confidence that they can do well in the future. Real Madrid's performance in this match was quite good. The result of the game was clear in the first half of the game that they would win. I had placed some bets on them in the last match and lost, so I didn't have confidence in them this time ha ha.

[Oluwa-btc]

A bit disappointed with how Ascensio being sent off by the referee in the early game. He's still too raw, and have to do better in coming days. He's still so dumb and prefer to see Rudiger as a starter.

Still feel so good to see they still playing full attaking even after they went down with 10 man in on the pitch. Arda and Dean are outstanding in this game.

I also applause Jude's performance, which is exceptional. I can start to see the clear pattern of Madrid.

This is what i wanted to see. They give fair minutes to whole of their players.

I like that youngin, he is too aggressive but when he keeps his head cool, he'll be one of the best defenders in the world. That booking do not define him as a bad player. Well, Rudiger is solid but Xabi Alonso open for that competition amongst his squad I see.

Yeah, despite that, they where well attacked by the opponents yesterday. They still have some things to work on prior to the new season. They did well, and I was pleased to see Arda Gular scoring that goal. Brahim Diaz as well. They managed the game quite well  and lastly,  thanks to Courtois, he'll one be a Real Madrid legend.

[Adbitco]

Is it actually getting clear now that the opening matches for most of the European teams teams that played against Brazilian, Argentine and Asian teams that didn't win was somehow?  Most of the games that they drew was actually not supposed to be so, In my opinion, I said they haven't yet adapted to the pattern and weather conditions of the place while those teams for both South American continents are already used ti used to the environment. I know that the European teams will still dominate the competition when the competition has moved to a more difficult stage.

[verdinio]

Madrid will definitely go through, there are many poor teams that will never go forward, yes the red card to Asensio was a real shame, but in the end as a great team knows how to do they did everything and won the match by a landslide, as I said the last times in the end it will be a slightly more exotic European championship

Despite failing to win against AL Hilal in the first match, Madrid secured victory in the second match. Real Madrid won this match by a margin of 3-1. Asencio was sent off early in the match after receiving a red card. Madrid dominated the match and won even with 10 players. However, young defenders like Asencio should be more careful. There was no need to play so aggressively against a weak opponent like Pachuca.


I am looking forward to the PSG vs Seattle Sounders match today. In the first match, PSG won against Atletico Madrid by a margin of 4-0. However, PSG lost against Botafogo in the second match. If they do not win today's match, PSG will not be able to qualify for the next round.
My guess is that PSG will win today by a big margin. Seattle Sounders' defense is quite weak. Luis Enrique will definitely not want to be eliminated in the first round.

they certainly gave a lot to win the champions league and now they will be relaxing and enjoying a well-deserved rest after such a performance, they certainly give less importance to this tournament, however I always laugh a lot when I hear the Botafogo chant ahah

[Lida93]

Today, PSG will be having their third match in the CWC tournament, haven lost their 2nd game against Botafogo after starting off with a sounding 4:1 victory against ATM, now they're to face Seattle Sounders in their third leg match. With the result of PSG last match I don't think they will want to lose this game as it could jeopardize their chances of making it out of their group. Or is it possible we going to see another shocking results again that would spoil a lot of gamblers bet slips as it were with Butafogo?

[Sexylizzy2813]

A good victory for Real Madrid. Even though Pacucha is not a strong and big team, I see a pretty good progress for Madrid. I noticed how the Madrid players started to play quick short passes. Although they lost dominance, I saw that Pacucha was able to make 25 shots. This is very different from Madrid, who only had 8 shots. So far, Madrid seems more effective and managed to win despite playing with ten players. The two new players, Trent Alexander-Arnold and Dean Huijsen, also performed well.

Saying that the Pacucha side are not strong and big looks some how, these guys don't need to be big or too strong to beat Madrid when every odds are in their favor with the red card that was shown to the Madrid defender Asensio, this was an opportunity for Pacucha to get all 3pt but the threw that chance away and it seems they're leaving the competition after playing their last game, even with the number of shots against the Madrid shot stopper Thibaut Courtois it still wasn't enough to get them the required goals to stay alive in that group. For a team to have less shots and win a game can be seen as a good display but when you relate it to that of PSG I don't think they did pretty well.
Madrid some how look like a very serious team with that 1 man down and it has been long since I saw them play like their lives depends on any competive game and if I'm to be honest to myself I can't say that Madrid are back to a better form because if it were one of those smaller teams in la Liga it would have been hell for Madrid. Believe me when I say this but it seems they can change the mentality they had when they first came into this competition, their next game won't be as easy as this one against Pacucha.

[bitzizzix]

Today, PSG will be having their third match in the CWC tournament, haven lost their 2nd game against Botafogo after starting off with a sounding 4:1 victory against ATM, now they're to face Seattle Sounders in their third leg match. With the result of PSG last match I don't think they will want to lose this game as it could jeopardize their chances of making it out of their group. Or is it possible we going to see another shocking results again that would spoil a lot of gamblers bet slips as it were with Butafogo?

The match against Sounders should be an easy match for PSG considering that PSG and Sounders are weak teams in this group because in the last five matches Sounders lost 4 times and only won 1 time, and in 2 matches in the Club World Cup Sounders never won, losing to Botafogo 2-1 and also 1-3 to Atletico Madrid. And in this match I am sure PSG can win the match against Sounders, because this is an important match for PSG to have a chance to advance to the next round and Luis Enrique will certainly field his best squad and will appear attacking in the early minutes of the match to be able to win this important match and I think a big score will be achieved by PSG maybe the score will end with 1-4 and Sounders only get 1 goal, because they can always score goals even if they lose or lose with a big score.

And in my opinion the match that is difficult to predict is Atletico Madrid vs Botafogo.

[Chilwell]

For sure I also think PSG will get maximum points in this match, the European champions will beat Seattle sounders, a win which might give them a chance to top the table if Botafogo lose to Atl. Madrid. I don’t think it will be difficult match for the European champions, I see them scoring 3 goals and above in this match.

Seattle sounders are still yet to pick a point in this tournament and I feel they will end the tournament without a point. It been a tough tournament so far and every points matters at this point and that one reason why PSG will take this match very serious.

In this group B, Botafogo seem to look so confidence in qualifying for the next round but on the other hand it also look so difficult for them to qualify. At It's stand now they are topping the table with six points because they have not lose any of their matches, they won against PSG and also Seattle sounders but that will not guarantee they will win against Atletico Madrid despite Atletico Madrid are not in a better form because football is very hard to predict. At the beginning I never believe Botafogo will defeat PSG due to their current form but they prove me wrong, so with regard to Atletico Madrid and Botafogo anything can still happen.

I never have doubt about PSG victory against Seattle sounders because I consider them as the weak team among them, PSG really have to take this match serious because they are also in danger even though am confidence in their victory, what PSG need in this match is goals, score as many as 5 and above to secure their qualification to the next round.

[rdluffy]

I won the last bet I made, a multiple on Borussia and Inter Milan's victories  

Today's betting will be much more difficult
I'd say the only result I'm more "sure" of is PSG's win against Seattle Sounders, but the others are harder to predict

I'm thinking Porto win with 1.71 odds, and Palmeiras win with 2.06 odds
The Botafogo vs Atlético Madrid game I can't think of the result, both are fully capable of winning

[Zaguru12]

I won the last bet I made, a multiple on Borussia and Inter Milan's victories  

Today's betting will be much more difficult
I'd say the only result I'm more "sure" of is PSG's win against Seattle Sounders, but the others are harder to predict

I'm thinking Porto win with 1.71 odds, and Palmeiras win with 2.06 odds
The Botafogo vs Atlético Madrid game I can't think of the result, both are fully capable of winning

In as much as the European clubs have actually not been totally impressive in this tournament as we all expected with South American clubs been the eye catching sides in this tournament, personally I think this is the time where I think all this European clubs will turn up big time. In today’s game I see PSG winning against Seattle Sounders while i think Atletico Madrid will also get their win against table top Botafogo. Atletico have been less impressive while Botafogo have been overall better but I think the bigger club which is Atletico is will come out triumph today

[MainIbem]

...these guys don't need to be big or too strong to beat Madrid when every odds are in their favor with the red card that was shown to the Madrid defender Asensio, this was an opportunity for Pacucha to get all 3pt but the threw that chance away and it seems they're leaving the competition after playing their last game.

The odds was in their favour after Real Madrid's player got booked but Madrid is Madrid that's why just like Luzin said, they managed to win, cause despite the challenge the red card brought them and the lack of shots compared to the one of Pachuca, they still scored 3 goals. If it was the other way round, I don't think Pachuca would even scored a goal, if they couldn't beat Madrid that was one man down you should imagine what the result would've been if they were given the red card. It's like that red card brought out the seriousness in them cause if they've lost that match, they would've been in 3rd place currently moreover they'll be meeting Salzburg next, a more tougher team in their group. One thing I took of is Arnold's performance, i thnk he'll shine in well he's Madrid he's an experienced player so I'm not really suprised.

[execijutiere]

Juventus managed to win against their opponent. They didn't have much trouble against Wydad AC. There was a Kenan Yildiz recital at Juventus, who won 4-1. The national player had a good game.
Real Madrid won 3-1 despite being down to 10 men in the 7th minute. With 10 men, Pachuca managed to find more positions. Courtois had a good game and helped his team win the match.