⚽ FIFA Club World Cup 2025 - USA: Discussion Thread ⚽

[yenerbatmaz]

Inter Miami missed the victory with the effective play of Suarez and Messi.

Inter Miami was leading 2-0 until the last 15 minutes of the match, but conceded 2 goals in the last 10 minutes and tied the match 2-2, but still managed to advance to the next round.

Had Inter Miami not conceded the last goal and finished top of the group, they would have been paired with Botafogo. But the match ended in a draw and they finished second in the group and were paired with PSG. They have a very difficult opponent. It's sure to be an interesting experience for Messi. But there is such a huge difference in quality between the two teams that it's highly unlikely that Inter Miami will reach the quarter final, even if they have Messi. Of course, nothing is certain. I think it will definitely be a match worth watching. I won't miss it.

PSG is the big favorite. If PSG players are fully focused, they will win the match by a large margin.
Inter's defense is weak and not very good. Messi alone is not enough to score.
Suarez is slow. Suarez scored a beautiful goal last night, but Palmeiras defense played a big role in this. They shouldn't have let a player that old into the penalty area with such ease.
Messi and Suarez are old, but their finishing quality is still very high.
I would like to watch the PSG - Miami match no matter what time it is. I am also thinking of betting on over 3.5 goals.

[aylabadia05]

Today we have Benfica and Bayern, which has all the makings of a great match, with Bayern as the big favorite. We also have the meme of the Club World Cup, Auckland City, for which BC.Game is offering odds of 50 for a win by the New Zealand club. So, anyone brave enough to go all in on that? Hahaha.

Benfica and Bayern. It's interesting because they're both big teams.
Bayern are definitely through. Benfica only need a draw to qualify because Boca Juniors on paper and based on statistical analysis, it can be said that Boca will win.
If Benfica lose and Boca Juniors is able to win with a score above 5 against Auckland City, do you think Boca Juniors will qualify which makes Benfica will have the same fate as Atletico Madrid in another group who failed to qualify despite winning?

BC.Game always gives the best deals.

[rdluffy]

It was really easy for Inter Miami and Palmeiras to secure their tickets for playoffs.    Because Porto were once again below the expectations. Not only in offense maybe but in defense surely.

2 European teams are already out of the competition during group stage. This number might increase depending on some other teams on the upcoming days.

So far Bayern Munich, Juventus and Manchester City are the ones I've liked the most.

I even commented in the Portuguese championship thread that I was very disappointed with Porto, but I wasn't too surprised since the team played badly all season
What surprised me most was the lack of changes to play in the World Cup, the team remained the same as it had been all season and didn't manage to take advantage of the great opportunity they had
Porto was supposed to be a team that would at least reach the round of 16

Benfica still have a good chance, but Sporting would be the best team in Portugal to play in this championship today

By the way, I lost the bet yesterday as I believed Porto would win. I should have taken the opportunity to close my bet when I had the chance hehehe

[SmartCharpa]

PSG and Botafogo qualified from Group B for the round of 16. They qualified for the next round after losing their third match against Atlético Madrid, but Atlético Madrid were eliminated despite winning. However, Botafogo will face Palmares in the round of 16, while PSG will face Inter Miami.

Bayern Munich will qualify for the round of 16 with a win against Benfica today, but it is not yet certain who their next opponent will be. And if Benfica cannot win this match, they will be able to qualify for the next round because they have a lot of goals. The weakest team in Group C is Auckland City. They have conceded a total of 16 goals in two matches so far, which is very unfortunate for them. They have not responded to a single goal.

PSG qualified for the round of 16 as expected but Botafogo surprised everyone by making it and defeating PSG in their second game. Atletico Madrid, on the other hand, claimed that they were eliminated because the referee was not on their side in any of the games they played, if Real Madrid had complained about the referee, I believe the internet would be full right now. Sadly, Simone has ended another season without winning a single title.

However, Bayern Munich against Benfica will be a difficult game to predict right now because both teams would want to win to move to the next round. I won't be surprised if Bayern Munich beats Benfica today since they are not as strong as Bayern Munich, they drew with Boca Junior, while Bayern Munich defeated them. So, even if Boca Junior defeats Auckland City, they may have the same points as Benfica, if Benfica loses to Bayern Munich, they may still be in second place with a goal difference.

[hyudien]

Who would have thought that Athletico Madrid won't be qualifying that Group B with PSG. I least expected them to be eliminated in the group stage of this tournament since the toughest opponent was just PSG. Kudos to Botofago. I look to see them beating Palmares in the next round.

Atletico performance is not consistent enough and not even interesting to watch so it's natural that they have to be eliminated first and the fatal mistake was when they lost badly to PSG. Congratulations to Botafogo and the next opponent is Palmeiras, a team that they are very familiar with but Palmeiras is much stronger so I think Botafogo will be eliminated in the round of 16 later.

Meanwhile, I can't wait to see Lionel Messi face his former teammates when  Inter Miami faces PSG. It's going to to be an interesting setpiece of a game to watch. Tougher matches are now unfolding in this club world cup unlike when it initially started, was so boring.

Messi vs former club is a match that everyone is waiting for, I think Messi can put up a fierce fight against PSG later even though they might lose in the end.

[KTChampions]

Who would have thought that Athletico Madrid won't be qualifying that Group B with PSG. I least expected them to be eliminated in the group stage of this tournament since the toughest opponent was just PSG. Kudos to Botofago. I look to see them beating Palmares in the next round. Meanwhile, I can't wait to see Lionel Messi face his former teammates when  Inter Miami faces PSG. It's going to to be an interesting setpiece of a game to watch. Tougher matches are now unfolding in this club world cup unlike when it initially started, was so boring.

Time to laugh at Simeone. I can't remember the last time Atletico looked like a team that was improving. If you don't count the temporary improvements like at the start of last season, but only against the background of previous declines.
On the one hand, they were unlucky to lose on additional parameters, as they let a team they beat in a face-to-face game pass them. But on the other hand, 0-4 from PSG is a disgrace + Botafogo managed to beat PSG. It is difficult to come up with a fair outcome here, but everything was in Atletico's hands - they knew in advance that they had to win big against Botafogo, but they could not.

[Lidger]

I watched the match and I feel little bit sad for Al Hilal. They play not so bad but they can’t finish good. I think they must try more hard in next match vs Pachuka. They have to score goals early and don’t miss chances.

If Real Madrid wins, maybe Al Hilal go next round but if draw... oh no, it will be very difficult. This group is very close, all teams fight strong. Football is crazy, anything can happend. I hope Al Hilal not give up and play with big heart next time.

Let’s wait and see

I believe in Al Hilal today and the way they played, they did their best, but unfortunately they couldn’t make the most of those chances, on the other hand Salzburg played skillfully, they fought hard to keep what they got. Now Al Hilal fate is in Madrid hands, but I’m not sure Madrid can beat Salzburg because if you look at their game under Xabi they haven’t found the style they want.

I feel really bad for Al Hilal because when they drew against Real Madrid in the first match, I thought they would win the other matches but unfortunately they only got one point against RB Salzburg. Al Hilal is currently in third place in the points table due to two points from two matches while RB Salzburg is in second place with the same number of points as Real Madrid. Al Hilal still has a lot of opportunities but they have to use that opportunity. If Al Hilal wins the next match and on the other hand if RB Salzburg loses or draws in their next match then Al Hilal can go through to the next round with some equations. However, Al Hilal's main focus will be on their next match.

[Chilwell]

Atletico performance is not consistent enough and not even interesting to watch so it's natural that they have to be eliminated first and the fatal mistake was when they lost badly to PSG. Congratulations to Botafogo and the next opponent is Palmeiras, a team that they are very familiar with but Palmeiras is much stronger so I think Botafogo will be eliminated in the round of 16 later.

I started looking down on Athletico Madrid when PSG humiliated them, but what shocked me in this group is when Botafogo defeated PSG, I never expected to see that kind of result because we all know how PSG are performing, that why we are all shocked to see the result of the match. Many predicted that PSG and Athletico Madrid will be the only two teams that will make it out of the group stage but Botafogo came from no where to rein the prediction.

Messi vs former club is a match that everyone is waiting for, I think Messi can put up a fierce fight against PSG later even though they might lose in the end.

I feel so much disappointed with FC Porto because in that group I find out that they are the only strong team that will make it through but unfortunately I was disappointed, the Inter Miami who I expected to be battling to make it out due to their strength, they make it out very easily. My disappointed started when FC Porto play against Inter Miami and they couldn't win the match, in that match I was having big hope for Porto but it turn out to be a disappointment.

[slapper]

Source: https://www.bola.com/amp/6059155/hasil-piala-dunia-antarklub-2025-man-city-tanpa-ampun-bekuk-al-ain-6-0
Yesterday I really enjoyed the Manchester City vs Al Ain match because in that match of course Erling Haaland and his friends had a goal party against Al Ain and the Manchester City players looked very good at playing the ball and Al Ain had a hard time taking the ball from the Manchester City players and finally that made the Manchester City players successfully score 6 goals against Al Ain. but it's really unfortunate that Haaland only scored a goal from a penalty kick even though I wanted to see Haaland score a goal not just from a penalty kick.

now Al Ain must be willing to lose to Manchester City with a score of 6-0 and of course in that match Pep looked very happy because his men played well. but fortunately in that match I bet on Manchester City's victory, what about you?

now I'm sure Manchester City will have great potential to advance to the last 16 and of course Pep must really make his strategy better and must train his men so that their performance is even better. but for the next match Juventus who will be Manchester City's opponent in my opinion this is a very exciting match. who do you think will win the Manchester City vs Juventus match?

People look at 6-0 they think it is all about finishing, but City did not simply outshoot Al Ain. They enjoyed 85% of the possession, 117 times into the final third, and conceded just one dangerous shot of Al Ain throughout the game (xG 0.1!). We all enjoy a goal fest, but what we witnessed was a tactical chokehold, and Al Ain did hold 20 minutes before that penalty broke the damn open. After that? The match was done, and Pep did not even smile until maybe the fifth goal

You had a good bet. However, Juventus is a whole new story. These are the guys who play out of the back, are not afraid to press, and have Motta who learned from the Guardiola school. You should not anticipate another goal party. When City manages to squeeze the life out of the Juve build-up, they win. If not? Might turn spicy, especially in case Chiesa has space on the break. I’d lean City, but not by six!

[el kaka22]

The fact that Athetico Madrid ended up losing out of the group stage, and Botafogo didn't, is a big shame for Simeone. Dude needs to realize, all that money to him, is for him to do better than he should with what they have, and so far he has gone down to a level where he is doing what many good managers could do. Like if you pay 10-15 million to a manager, and get that level manager, then you could do better than what Simeone is doing, or at least do what he is doing. Simeone, with nearly 30 million, isn't doing anything new or better.

What we are seeing here isn't that great, and shouldn't be all that much different or difficult for him. Do better, or they will end up with a sacking after this many years, it's going to be a big deal when he is fired.

[Chilwell]

I feel really bad for Al Hilal because when they drew against Real Madrid in the first match, I thought they would win the other matches but unfortunately they only got one point against RB Salzburg. Al Hilal is currently in third place in the points table due to two points from two matches while RB Salzburg is in second place with the same number of points as Real Madrid. Al Hilal still has a lot of opportunities but they have to use that opportunity. If Al Hilal wins the next match and on the other hand if RB Salzburg loses or draws in their next match then Al Hilal can go through to the next round with some equations. However, Al Hilal's main focus will be on their next match.

I don't think you should feel bad for Al Hilal for not winning their second match against RB Salzburg after playing draw against Real Madrid, this is football for you, by the way Al Hilal didn't loss any of the matches and there is every possibility that they will qualify for the next round because they are playing against Pachuca who had recorded a single victory since the start of the competition and I don't expect them to stop Al Hilal from winning their match. RB Salzburg will be facing Real Madrid in their next match and it actually look very difficult for them to win real Madrid because both are in serious danger due to their points, even draw is not advisable because Al Hilal will make sure they win against Pachuca to secure their five points to replace either Real Madrid or RB Salzburg in the next round of the competition.

[Bitcoin_people]

Who would have thought that Athletico Madrid won't be qualifying that Group B with PSG. I least expected them to be eliminated in the group stage of this tournament since the toughest opponent was just PSG. Kudos to Botofago. I look to see them beating Palmares in the next round. Meanwhile, I can't wait to see Lionel Messi face his former teammates when  Inter Miami faces PSG. It's going to to be an interesting setpiece of a game to watch. Tougher matches are now unfolding in this club world cup unlike when it initially started, was so boring.

Time to laugh at Simeone. I can't remember the last time Atletico looked like a team that was improving. If you don't count the temporary improvements like at the start of last season, but only against the background of previous declines.
On the one hand, they were unlucky to lose on additional parameters, as they let a team they beat in a face-to-face game pass them. But on the other hand, 0-4 from PSG is a disgrace + Botafogo managed to beat PSG. It is difficult to come up with a fair outcome here, but everything was in Atletico's hands - they knew in advance that they had to win big against Botafogo, but they could not.

Yes, the way Simeone is currently managing his club is truly shameful, we saw Atletico Madrid as a progressive club at the beginning of the season in their domestic league. But the way this team is currently going down is truly shameful for them, especially Simeone, most people will laugh at him. Their terrible defeat against PSG which weakened them a lot, Atletico lost 4-0, if they could have responded to so many goals that day, they might not have seen this day. They needed a big result against Botafogo to win but they didn't even know it, instead they failed and only managed to score one goal. Although Atletico knew in advance that they had to win big and attack strongly, but they didn't succeed even when they attacked. Botafogo's team was very confident since they lost to a champion team like PSG, and they defended strongly against Atletico, which is why they qualified for the round of 16.

[Luzin]

Congratulations to the teams that have secured a place in the FIFA Club World Cup Round of 16.

I think for group B at first Atletico Madrid and PSG will qualify for the round of 16. But Atletico are a little unlucky, they only lost on goal difference. Botafogo surprised them to accompany PSG.  For other European teams like Man City, Juventus and Bayern I think they are superior, they deserve to be in the knockout stages.

As for the Top Scorers to date:

3 goals
Angel Di Maria - Benfica
Jamal Musiala - Bayern Munich
Michael Olise - Bayern Munich
Kenan Yildiz - Juventus
Wessam Abu Ali - Al Ahly

2 goals
Leandro Barreiro - Benfica
Pablo Barrios - Atlético Madrid
Kingsley Coman - Bayern Munich
Francisco Conceição - Juventus
Ilkay Gündogan - Manchester City
Igor Jesus - Botafogo
Lautaro Martínez - Inter Milan
Randal Kolo Muani - Juventus
Thomas Müller - Bayern Munich
Pedro Neto - Chelsea
Iqraam Rayners - Mamelodi Sundowns
Samu Aghehowa - Porto

Source: https://www.goal.com/en/news/club-world-cup-2025-top-scorers/blted0afea0b35d5250

[boltz]

Group B was amazing and the most entertaining one for sure! I also liked that Atl.Madrid didn't qualify further because you cannot play football just 30 minutes every game and the rest of it rely on pure defense and counter-attack mode ...and in the end they were punished for this style.

Maybe group H to bring some drama as well ? Real and Salzburg will fight tonight for Nr1 spot in the group but if Al-Hilal wins and Real vs Salzburg won't be a draw , then one of them is going home 

[rdluffy]

I'm going to place 2 bets today
Victory of Bayern, and less than 6 goals in the Auckland vs Boca Juniors match, odds 3.46
I don't think Boca Juniors will score more than 6 goals against Auckland

Chelsea and Flamengo win, combined odds of 2.40

I hope I can get both right to recover from yesterday's mistake of betting on Porto to win 

I'll watch Benfica vs Bayern and then Flamengo vs LA

[Adbitco]

Group B was amazing and the most entertaining one for sure! I also liked that Atl.Madrid didn't qualify further because you cannot play football just 30 minutes every game and the rest of it rely on pure defense and counter-attack mode ...and in the end they were punished for this style.

Maybe group H to bring some drama as well ? Real and Salzburg will fight tonight for Nr1 spot in the group but if Al-Hilal wins and Real vs Salzburg won't be a draw , then one of them is going home 

And they're out, I even saw some news making the rounds online that Diego Simeone was complaining about almost every referee and VAR decision being against his Atletico Madrid and I was like wasn't your team even favoured once!  It's never possible that a team will play three matches and get all decisions gone against his team, I feel that Simeone is just bitter that his team wasn't able to pass the group stages on into the next round.

[Despairo]

The fact that Athetico Madrid ended up losing out of the group stage, and Botafogo didn't, is a big shame for Simeone. Dude needs to realize, all that money to him, is for him to do better than he should with what they have, and so far he has gone down to a level where he is doing what many good managers could do. Like if you pay 10-15 million to a manager, and get that level manager, then you could do better than what Simeone is doing, or at least do what he is doing. Simeone, with nearly 30 million, isn't doing anything new or better.

What we are seeing here isn't that great, and shouldn't be all that much different or difficult for him. Do better, or they will end up with a sacking after this many years, it's going to be a big deal when he is fired.

Yep, Atletico Madrid need to consider for sacking Simeone.

Many of Atletico Madrid's players are getting older, Griezmann is already 34 years old, once his contract expire in 2027 and he choose to leave Atletico Madrid, I think that's when Atletico Madrid would struggle to find the replacement.

Atletico Madrid have the money, they should try to sign Luis Henrique, maybe he can brought Atletico Madrid to win Champions League.

[Mame89]

Who would have thought that Athletico Madrid won't be qualifying that Group B with PSG. I least expected them to be eliminated in the group stage of this tournament since the toughest opponent was just PSG. Kudos to Botofago. I look to see them beating Palmares in the next round. Meanwhile, I can't wait to see Lionel Messi face his former teammates when  Inter Miami faces PSG. It's going to to be an interesting setpiece of a game to watch. Tougher matches are now unfolding in this club world cup unlike when it initially started, was so boring.

Time to laugh at Simeone. I can't remember the last time Atletico looked like a team that was improving. If you don't count the temporary improvements like at the start of last season, but only against the background of previous declines.
On the one hand, they were unlucky to lose on additional parameters, as they let a team they beat in a face-to-face game pass them. But on the other hand, 0-4 from PSG is a disgrace + Botafogo managed to beat PSG. It is difficult to come up with a fair outcome here, but everything was in Atletico's hands - they knew in advance that they had to win big against Botafogo, but they could not.

How could Atletico win big against Botafogo, they had no other choice when facing opponents with strong defense. Because, Simeone had difficulty when facing opponents with solid defense, you could say this is karma because they also often play a defensive strategy.

For me personally, Atletico should change coaches, Simeone has been at Atletico Madrid for a long time but there has been no significant development every season, it always stagnates. What's even more embarrassing, Atletico Madrid's failure in the Club World Cup made them the first European team to be eliminated from this year's Club World Cup.

[SmartCharpa]

I feel really bad for Al Hilal because when they drew against Real Madrid in the first match, I thought they would win the other matches but unfortunately they only got one point against RB Salzburg. Al Hilal is currently in third place in the points table due to two points from two matches while RB Salzburg is in second place with the same number of points as Real Madrid. Al Hilal still has a lot of opportunities but they have to use that opportunity. If Al Hilal wins the next match and on the other hand if RB Salzburg loses or draws in their next match then Al Hilal can go through to the next round with some equations. However, Al Hilal's main focus will be on their next match.

The majority of these teams always perform at their best when they face Real Madrid, if any team has the opportunity to play against Real Madrid, they always want to set a record to ensure they beat Real Madrid, but when they face other teams, they perform as if they were different from the team that performed better in their previous match. According to Al Hilal performance against Real Madrid, I thought they had the strength to defeat any major opponent in this competition, however, it's clear that they just played better because of Real Madrid.

However, many people were impressed with Al Hilal performance against Real Madrid, and some were confident that they would finish among the top four in the Premier League. I assumed they would win their last match against Salzburg, no matter what challenges they faced, they should score at least 1 goal. Al Hilal must win their next game against Pachuca to advance to the next round, otherwise, this competition will be over for them.

[yudi09]

Under Igor Tudor, I predict that Kenan Yildiz will get the main spot in the Juventus line-up. It is undeniable that Yilmaz's creativity in performance is almost always good and in Juventus' two matches at the FIFA Club World Cup tournament, YilmazYildiz proved that he is an important figure to watch out for.

Hey man, he's not Yilmaz, he'll be Yildiz. I agree with what you said, the young star can take on a more important role next year under Tudor. He played very well in this match and was the man of the match. Coach Tudor will probably use him more in Italy and in this tournament. Real Madrid was reduced to ten men in the eighth minute with Asencio's red card. Pachuca is the team with the advantage right now.

Yes, I got Yildiz's name wrong.
The challenge for Yildiz to prove himself came against Manchester City.
Yildiz has been a new idol for the Juventus public and his performance has continued to improve well including in the two matches in this tournament. If in the face of Manchester City, Kenan Yildiz is able to continue what has been done so far, I believe Kenan Yildiz will be used as a key for Igor Tudor to face next season.