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April 28, 2014, 08:18:55 AM |
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I think this is the best factual article that I've read explaining the gas relations between Russia and Ukraine, and how Ukraine has been consistently shooting itself in both feet.
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April 28, 2014, 08:50:36 AM |
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Ukraine's failure to pay gas debt may cut gas supply to Europe - Russia’s energy minister Most of the gas will be diverted to the Nord Stream. So consumers in Germany and Italy will face no shortages. But I think the Eastern European countries might find themselves a bit under-supplied.
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I reject BTC price hike. Kindly send me BTC and I will pay you 100 USD for each 1 BTC. I think my demand is entirely logical 1NBEiNTvJa3JT74rH7QAKgmo35wngbBcQs Attached are some graphs
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April 28, 2014, 03:02:16 PM |
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Yatseniuk joking once again... lol.. this guy is so thick. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/28/ukraine-crisis-gazprom-idUSL6N0NK3O820140428Ukraine ready to pay Gazprom lower price, pay off debt quickly if agreedUkraine is ready to pay Russia's Gazprom $268 per 1,000 cubic metres of gas and would quickly pay off its $2.2. billion debt if the state-controlled company agreed, Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said on Monday.
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April 30, 2014, 05:22:50 PM |
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Ukrainian citizens will pay 56% more for gas, starting 1st of May. This is the decision reached by Ukrainian cabinet of Ministers aimed at satisfying IMF demand to qualify to receive economic help. http://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2014/04/30/n_6121577.shtmlAbsurdity!
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April 30, 2014, 05:38:09 PM |
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Meanwhile, business continues as usual for Gazprom. Gazprom to Build Pipeline to Austria as Gas Beats Tensionshttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-29/gazprom-omv-agree-on-austria-endpoint-for-south-stream-pipeline.htmlAs much as 32 billion cubic meters of gas a year will be delivered to Baumgarten, Austria, through a section of the South Stream pipeline, Vienna-based OMV said in a statement yesterday. The first gas deliveries are planned for 2017, under the memorandum of understanding the OMV Chief Executive Officer Gerhard Roiss and Gazprom CEO Alexey Miller signed in Moscow.
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April 30, 2014, 07:55:55 PM |
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The gas war continues, now in Europe and WTO: http://www.forbes.ru/news/256295-rossiya-podala-v-vto-isk-protiv-tretego-energopaketa-evrosoyuzaRussia sent a complaint to WTO against Europe's "third energy pack", which might force gas producers to relinquish control over pipes on European territory.
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May 01, 2014, 02:42:47 AM |
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Russia sent a complaint to WTO against Europe's "third energy pack", which might force gas producers to relinquish control over pipes on European territory.
Doesn't matter much. The Nord stream is in the Baltic sea, and only a small portion runs through Germany. The proposed South Stream is also around 75% outside the European territory.
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May 01, 2014, 01:52:01 PM |
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Next topic will be named "Ukraine rejects blue colour of sky"
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May 07, 2014, 04:30:19 PM |
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Kiev again does not pay for the gas, after the April deadline has passed: http://itar-tass.com/ekonomika/1172374?utm_medium=rss20Gazprom: Ukraine fails to pay its April gas billhttp://rt.com/business/157304-gazprom-ukraine-gas-deadline/
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May 08, 2014, 02:07:25 PM |
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Ukraine refuses to acknowledge its gas debt: http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/08/nodebt/Really?!
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May 08, 2014, 03:14:57 PM |
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Lithuania gas utility says agrees on gas price reduction with Gazpromhttp://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL6N0NU46E20140508Lithuanian utility Lietuvos Dujos said it had reached a "significant reduction" in the price of gas supplied by Gazprom, a key dispute point between the Baltic state and Russia. "Lietuvos Dujos entered into an agreement with the supplier of natural gas Gazprom that involves a significant reduction in the price of natural gas imported by Lietuvos Dujos," the company said in a statement to the stock exchange in Vilnius, without disclosing the price. Gazprom reportedly drops South Stream branch to Italyhttp://www.neurope.eu/article/gazprom-reportedly-drops-south-stream-branch-italyRussian gas monopoly Gazprom has reportedly abandoned plans to build a section of the Russian-backed South Stream gas pipeline to Italy, a day after the Russian company opted for a South Stream pipeline branch to Austria. On 29 April, Gazprom and Austrian oil and gas company OMV signed a memorandum that foresees building a section of the giant pipeline from Hungary to OMV’s Central European Gas Hub near Vienna.
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May 08, 2014, 03:49:09 PM Last edit: May 08, 2014, 03:59:16 PM by deisik |
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It is more interesting how the U.S. astronauts are going to get back to Earth from the station... Should they orchestrate a Maidan there, in space? By the way, Ukraine refused to pay in advance for the gas supplies in June...
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May 08, 2014, 04:15:40 PM |
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It is more interesting how the U.S. astronauts are going to get back to Earth from the station... Should they orchestrate a Maidan there, in space? How many US astronauts are there in the ISS right now? And how many Russians are there? Here is the plan. The Americans can take the Russians hostage, and ask the Roskosmos to send a rocket to transport them to some shitty location within the US.
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May 08, 2014, 07:52:28 PM |
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 09, 2014, 06:27:22 AM |
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Russia to supply gas to Ukraine on prepaid basis from June 1http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/730982Russia will supply natural gas to Ukraine on a prepaid basis from June 1, Energy Minister Alexander Novak said on Thursday, May 8. “May 7 was the last day when Ukraine had to pay for the gas supplied. We have not received any payment from Naftogaz of Ukraine since March of this year. Ukraine’s overall debt for gas has reached 3,508 billion U.S. dollars up to date,” he said. In accordance with Clauses 5.1.5 and 5.8 of the contract for the supply of gas made by and between Gazprom and Naftogaz of Ukraine in 2009, failure to perform the obligations entails an automatic transition to gas supplies on a prepaid basis from June 1, 2014, Novak said.
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May 09, 2014, 10:56:50 AM |
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Russia does not preclude that gas deliveries to Ukraine will be stopped. http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1562172&cid=6"The main question now, is if Ukraine can use IMF-supplied loans to cover its gas debt and if those loans will be enough to cover the debt in its entirety."
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 09, 2014, 11:00:56 AM |
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Russia does not preclude that gas deliveries to Ukraine will be stopped. http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1562172&cid=6"The main question now, is if Ukraine can use IMF-supplied loans to cover its gas debt and if those loans will be enough to cover the debt in its entirety." I just can't understand if the IMF couldn't have made a loan to Ukraine on the condition that it would pay off the debt (or some part of)?
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May 09, 2014, 11:13:32 AM |
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I would not be surprised if one of the IMF conditions was that the money were not to be used to pay Russia for its gas.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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