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November 09, 2015, 07:13:44 PM |
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Boolberry price is very low. So sad
Don't be sad. Boolberry is an altcoin. Altcoins are volatile. Boolberry has been around for a significant amount of time. It's not going away. Secure your wallet and do what you can to promote and advance Boolberry. I think there are two factors : -first almost all altcoin have decreased in btc value with the recent rise of BTC/USD : eth, xmr, maid ... have suffered from this and began to recover - second, there is some trouble in the supernet project : there is some conflict between nxt dev and supernet dev who have dumped a huge amount of nxt : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.5620 and https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/price-speculation/msg199646/#msg199646I believe bbr will recover mostly : afterall, the link between supernet and bbr has already weakened a lot some months ago More people should follow the lead of damashup and make games and services to support Boolberry. Test our popboolr today! http://popboolr.com/originaltweetsKeep asking shapeshift.io to add boolberry. It will make spending it much easier at many btc merchants and those who use their API
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November 10, 2015, 02:13:27 AM |
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Boolberry price is very low. So sad
Don't be sad. Boolberry is an altcoin. Altcoins are volatile. Boolberry has been around for a significant amount of time. It's not going away. Secure your wallet and do what you can to promote and advance Boolberry. Let brainstorm ways for non programmers to help "promote and advance Boolberry".............
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jwinterm
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November 10, 2015, 04:11:05 AM |
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Boolberry price is very low. So sad
Don't be sad. Boolberry is an altcoin. Altcoins are volatile. Boolberry has been around for a significant amount of time. It's not going away. Secure your wallet and do what you can to promote and advance Boolberry. Let brainstorm ways for non programmers to help "promote and advance Boolberry"............. This holiday season, don't buy any gifts, but give all your friends and relatives only boolberries  OK, maybe that's a bit extreme. You could put a small paper wallet in xmas cards you send out with instructions to claim...still maybe kind of more annoying than nice though.
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November 10, 2015, 08:01:17 PM |
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Boolberry price is very low. So sad
Don't be sad. Boolberry is an altcoin. Altcoins are volatile. Boolberry has been around for a significant amount of time. It's not going away. Secure your wallet and do what you can to promote and advance Boolberry. Let brainstorm ways for non programmers to help "promote and advance Boolberry"............. This holiday season, don't buy any gifts, but give all your friends and relatives only boolberries  OK, maybe that's a bit extreme. You could put a small paper wallet in xmas cards you send out with instructions to claim...still maybe kind of more annoying than nice though. Perhaps annoying in the short run, but very valuable in the long run provided they follow through and take the time to learn more about Boolberry!
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November 11, 2015, 06:13:33 PM |
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I'm here, no worries. Btw, i was told that Wolf complained about me on #monero chanel, well, just to put light on it, if someone interested what happend: We were looking for someone to make x11 GPU miner, both for OpenCL and CUDA, as he is well known as a good developer for such things, i offered him to do that. Here was my offer: We finally need code for both platforms(Linux&Windows) OpenCL and CUDA implementations. It could be not perfect implementations, but it should work fine with Clintar's pool. Ready pay 600$ for everything, including testing on pool and easy HOWTO use/build. Zoidberg
And here is his answer: Very well. My GitHub name is wolf9466. The current Bitstamp BTC price is $227.88; I'll round up to $228. Send half to me to start, half on completion. If the BTC price changes by more than 15%, up OR down, the remaining payment is to be re-negotiated.
He was prepaid with $487 out of the $600(even more then he asked) and the deal was to have finally done both opencl and cuda miners. Since for Opencl there was not much work there(cz it was already public implementation of it), so i’ve made a deal with him to make both miners working, even without optimizations. That talk happend at 1-st of September! He hang us for more then 2 months and finaly said then he is not going to make CUDA, i have to hire some one else. Well, then i asked him to return money, since he failed to finish contract in my opinion, despite the fact that he adapt opencl version to cryptonote block size (Mostly i wanted to return money because of wasted a lot of our time actually) All our communication made in bitcointalk pm, so it's could be validated by sysadmins if someones cares. You can say that i'm wrong in some way, but according to my standarts if you applied for job and got prepayment, and then gave up - you should return prepayment, and also say "sorry for your lost time" to your employer, in case there was no other conditions. Zoidberg.
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November 11, 2015, 07:41:13 PM |
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We were looking for someone to make x11 GPU miner
X11 miner eh? Unless you plan to change POW, why are you abandoning this coin so fast?
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jwinterm
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November 11, 2015, 10:30:59 PM |
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You can say that i'm wrong in some way, but according to my standarts if you applied for job and got prepayment, and then gave up - you should return prepayment, and also say "sorry for your lost time" to your employer, in case there was no other conditions.
Zoidberg.
If you make a coin that donates 1% of all coins on an ongoing basis to the creator for ongoing development, then when you lose interest and spend approximately one year readying your new project, you should return your premine, and also say "sorry for your lost time" to your supporters, in case they thought you were actually serious about ongoing development. 
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smooth
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November 11, 2015, 11:04:54 PM |
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We were looking for someone to make x11 GPU miner
X11 miner eh? Unless you plan to change POW, why are you abandoning this coin so fast? It was probably for the other coin he's working on, which he has said several times does not mean he is abandoning this coin. He's said that he doing both. I'm not sure why he felt he needed to come back to THIS thread and air some disagreement he has with Wolf about the other coin though.
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November 12, 2015, 12:13:23 AM |
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We were looking for someone to make x11 GPU miner
X11 miner eh? Unless you plan to change POW, why are you abandoning this coin so fast? It was probably for the other coin he's working on, which he has said several times does not mean he is abandoning this coin. He's said that he doing both. I agree with smooth. There is nothing wrong with having more than 1 project! We all appreciate the work of crypto_zoidberg and are eager to see how the new Boolberry db branch ( https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/tree/db) works upon release.
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November 12, 2015, 07:09:07 AM Last edit: November 12, 2015, 07:29:08 AM by bigj |
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To me the case is clear. We are talking about cz's reputation here, no one else's.
The little BBR needs his dad! (Or mom?) Hey, cz it is time to finally return to your child. You are being missed.
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November 12, 2015, 09:42:39 PM |
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I'm here, no worries. Btw, i was told that Wolf complained about me on #monero chanel, well, just to put light on it, if someone interested what happend: We were looking for someone to make x11 GPU miner, both for OpenCL and CUDA, as he is well known as a good developer for such things, i offered him to do that. Here was my offer: We finally need code for both platforms(Linux&Windows) OpenCL and CUDA implementations. It could be not perfect implementations, but it should work fine with Clintar's pool. Ready pay 600$ for everything, including testing on pool and easy HOWTO use/build. Zoidberg
And here is his answer: Very well. My GitHub name is wolf9466. The current Bitstamp BTC price is $227.88; I'll round up to $228. Send half to me to start, half on completion. If the BTC price changes by more than 15%, up OR down, the remaining payment is to be re-negotiated.
He was prepaid with $487 out of the $600(even more then he asked) and the deal was to have finally done both opencl and cuda miners. Since for Opencl there was not much work there(cz it was already public implementation of it), so i’ve made a deal with him to make both miners working, even without optimizations. That talk happend at 1-st of September! He hang us for more then 2 months and finaly said then he is not going to make CUDA, i have to hire some one else. Well, then i asked him to return money, since he failed to finish contract in my opinion, despite the fact that he adapt opencl version to cryptonote block size (Mostly i wanted to return money because of wasted a lot of our time actually) All our communication made in bitcointalk pm, so it's could be validated by sysadmins if someones cares. You can say that i'm wrong in some way, but according to my standarts if you applied for job and got prepayment, and then gave up - you should return prepayment, and also say "sorry for your lost time" to your employer, in case there was no other conditions. Zoidberg. I did offer to return 487 - 300 = 187 USD. Because that's fair. Also, here is what he said to me: The deal conditions was both working and tested miner. We didn't talk about half work - half price. We've lost time while i was wating you, and you managed to quit. So please, refund money that i paid you forward, if you care about your reputation. Zoidberg. I can't test at all currently due to Clintar's pool not accepting the Stratum auth...
Man, is there any hope you to get finished the job ? Or i need to hire someone else ? It's long time actually gone... Zoidberg You can hire someone else. I'm sorry - I just can't get it to work. But you already took half of the money, since you managed to quit, can you return it ? Zoidberg I also gave you a working sgminer, remember? Honestly, I should say I would have returned the 187 USD if he hadn't fucking tried to threaten me, but you know what, I'll return it anyways. CZ may also be kinda saying that, if you were older you would probably do this one for free I might add that, do not everything that one wishes happens in life, unless one wish for something too hard. Have fun on holidays, but do your magic after New year if you would. You have a knowledge to have all goodies of life, just don't rush it mate. Wouldn't the first iteration of OS FPGA miner kinda create an market?
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November 12, 2015, 10:09:50 PM |
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Popboolr update "Putting the 'pop' into Popboolr"I'm pleased to announce further updates to Popboolr new game functionality for Popboolr. Pop em- now when a player claims bools, the points are not locked in until new set of unclaimed bools have been claimed in the game. During this period the bools are vulnerable. They can be "popped" (taken) by another player by clicking the 'Pop em' button. Once popped the previous claimer loses the bools and they are provisionally awarded to the player who popped them. The new claimer also gets 1 additional bonus bool. All of the new claimers bools are vulnerable until another set of unclaimed bools are claimed. - A player cannot pop their own bools. Doing so will result in a player losing x2 the amount of Bools they attempted to pop. Claims list pageShows (in real-time), - the latest claims and pops as they are made Stats pagesShows (in real-time), - number of bools available - number of claims made - exchange rates (Bools to Boolberry to Bitcoin) Server- updates to the server software, including a bit more extra 'grunt' I've also added a few more nice touches... Please check out the site if you get a chance - http://popboolr.com. The more people that give the game a try, the better! I'll be taking a bit of a hiatus for a few weeks as I have other pressing matters to attend to. I will however endeavour to keep the test site on line, fix bugs and add minor updates (including more comprehensive instructions on how to play) in the interim. I've alot more ideas on where to take the game so expect more features and developments in the next few months! Damashup I finally tried the game today and like it. When you go live I would be willing to donate some BBR to the game (as rewards for players when bools are converted to Boolberry). I do have one question. You are looking at 60 minutes of Twitter data right? I imagine that is a lot of data. Several times when playing the game froze up and became temporarily unresponsive. I wonder if it is related to your need to parse and update so much information. Would it help to either decrease the amount of Twitter data you are parsing (maybe only the last 30 minutes) or slightly decrease how often you update it?
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November 12, 2015, 11:18:43 PM Last edit: November 12, 2015, 11:33:04 PM by sonoIO |
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Popboolr update "Putting the 'pop' into Popboolr"I'm pleased to announce further updates to Popboolr new game functionality for Popboolr. Pop em- now when a player claims bools, the points are not locked in until new set of unclaimed bools have been claimed in the game. During this period the bools are vulnerable. They can be "popped" (taken) by another player by clicking the 'Pop em' button. Once popped the previous claimer loses the bools and they are provisionally awarded to the player who popped them. The new claimer also gets 1 additional bonus bool. All of the new claimers bools are vulnerable until another set of unclaimed bools are claimed. - A player cannot pop their own bools. Doing so will result in a player losing x2 the amount of Bools they attempted to pop. Claims list pageShows (in real-time), - the latest claims and pops as they are made Stats pagesShows (in real-time), - number of bools available - number of claims made - exchange rates (Bools to Boolberry to Bitcoin) Server- updates to the server software, including a bit more extra 'grunt' I've also added a few more nice touches... Please check out the site if you get a chance - http://popboolr.com. The more people that give the game a try, the better! I'll be taking a bit of a hiatus for a few weeks as I have other pressing matters to attend to. I will however endeavour to keep the test site on line, fix bugs and add minor updates (including more comprehensive instructions on how to play) in the interim. I've alot more ideas on where to take the game so expect more features and developments in the next few months! Damashup I finally tried the game today and like it. When you go live I would be willing to donate some BBR to the game (as rewards for players when bools are converted to Boolberry). I do have one question. You are looking at 60 minutes of Twitter data right? I imagine that is a lot of data. Several times when playing the game froze up and became temporarily unresponsive. I wonder if it is related to your need to parse and update so much information. Would it help to either decrease the amount of Twitter data you are parsing (maybe only the last 30 minutes) or slightly decrease how often you update it? Like a hashtag? Damashup Could the platform be modified such that it watches for hashtags if having a kinda image of e.g. BBR logo shaped from a food (and an address to clam a part of the e.g. daily reward. And for the platform to have vote-ups and downs, once a day, and basically to split a rewards between claimers and ppl posting food made bbr logo incarnations  I'm probably going too far here, but there was a mention of just brainstorming, and that would create a market with a dynamics CZ, some was mentioning hardfork solution, i'de support e.g. 1% to be allocated (on top pf devs part before someone proposes something that makes most sence for it) for such (harder to game Proof of Constructive Human Work) purposes only if severely limited to a part of a business cycle, e.g. 2 years or something 
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November 13, 2015, 12:06:49 AM |
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Popboolr update "Putting the 'pop' into Popboolr"I'm pleased to announce further updates to Popboolr new game functionality for Popboolr. Pop em- now when a player claims bools, the points are not locked in until new set of unclaimed bools have been claimed in the game. During this period the bools are vulnerable. They can be "popped" (taken) by another player by clicking the 'Pop em' button. Once popped the previous claimer loses the bools and they are provisionally awarded to the player who popped them. The new claimer also gets 1 additional bonus bool. All of the new claimers bools are vulnerable until another set of unclaimed bools are claimed. - A player cannot pop their own bools. Doing so will result in a player losing x2 the amount of Bools they attempted to pop. Claims list pageShows (in real-time), - the latest claims and pops as they are made Stats pagesShows (in real-time), - number of bools available - number of claims made - exchange rates (Bools to Boolberry to Bitcoin) Server- updates to the server software, including a bit more extra 'grunt' I've also added a few more nice touches... Please check out the site if you get a chance - http://popboolr.com. The more people that give the game a try, the better! I'll be taking a bit of a hiatus for a few weeks as I have other pressing matters to attend to. I will however endeavour to keep the test site on line, fix bugs and add minor updates (including more comprehensive instructions on how to play) in the interim. I've alot more ideas on where to take the game so expect more features and developments in the next few months! Damashup I finally tried the game today and like it. When you go live I would be willing to donate some BBR to the game (as rewards for players when bools are converted to Boolberry). I do have one question. You are looking at 60 minutes of Twitter data right? I imagine that is a lot of data. Several times when playing the game froze up and became temporarily unresponsive. I wonder if it is related to your need to parse and update so much information. Would it help to either decrease the amount of Twitter data you are parsing (maybe only the last 30 minutes) or slightly decrease how often you update it? Like a hashtag? Damashup Could the platform be modified such that it watches for hashtags if having a kinda image of e.g. BBR logo shaped from a food (and an address to clam a part of the e.g. daily reward. And for the platform to have vote-ups and downs, once a day, and basically to split a rewards between claimers and ppl posting food made bbr logo incarnations  I'm probably going too far here, but there was a mention of just brainstorming, and that would create a market with a dynamics CZ, some was mentioning hardfork solution, i'de support e.g. 1% to be allocated (on top pf devs part before someone proposes something that makes most sence for it) for such (harder to game Proof of Constructive Human Work) purposes only if severely limited to a part of a business cycle, e.g. 2 years or something  How about only being able to claim tweets that mention certain keywords like #crypto #bitcoin #CryptoNote #Boolberry #privacy #fungible, etc. Naturally #Boolberry should have the highest possible reward! Or you could create incentives to create content that is later claimed by players. For example the person that Tweeted something mentioning #boolberry (assuming they are registered with popboolr) could receive a reward 5x as large as the person who claimed the Tweet. Creating content is harder than claiming Tweets and also more valuable to Boolberry assuming that content is relevant.
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November 13, 2015, 12:12:55 AM |
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Cross post from the (moved) speculation thread: I only wanted us treated the same as the Monero and Aeon speculation threads mentioned above. We do not need two threads in the announcement section. For some reason the moderators must have thought it looked too much like an announcement thread. The chess thread/cryptonote technical discussion thread ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1190988)is doing well in the alt coin section. I propose damashup start a new thread where to discuss and provide feedback for popboolr. The altcoin section seems like the right place to me. Does everyone agree?
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November 13, 2015, 08:06:14 AM |
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IMHO, the next step for BBR is that CZ changes (simplifies) the code base such that it could be (easily) taken over by some group of interested devs. Right now, the source code reads unready compared to, e.g., XMR code. There were also a couple of problems, when I remember correctly, with compiling the BBR code. The latter is probably the most important thing that should be improved. BBR code must compile for everyone on Linux and Windows and, maybe, MacOS too. When that stage is reached (maybe it is already reached; but not to my knowledge), BBR can start to evolve. To me, BBR looks like a frozen fish right now that either needs to be eaten asap, or revived and put back into water. Of course, I am in favor of life 
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November 13, 2015, 05:17:08 PM |
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Popboolr update "Putting the 'pop' into Popboolr"I'm pleased to announce further updates to Popboolr new game functionality for Popboolr. Pop em- now when a player claims bools, the points are not locked in until new set of unclaimed bools have been claimed in the game. During this period the bools are vulnerable. They can be "popped" (taken) by another player by clicking the 'Pop em' button. Once popped the previous claimer loses the bools and they are provisionally awarded to the player who popped them. The new claimer also gets 1 additional bonus bool. All of the new claimers bools are vulnerable until another set of unclaimed bools are claimed. - A player cannot pop their own bools. Doing so will result in a player losing x2 the amount of Bools they attempted to pop. Claims list pageShows (in real-time), - the latest claims and pops as they are made Stats pagesShows (in real-time), - number of bools available - number of claims made - exchange rates (Bools to Boolberry to Bitcoin) Server- updates to the server software, including a bit more extra 'grunt' I've also added a few more nice touches... Please check out the site if you get a chance - http://popboolr.com. The more people that give the game a try, the better! I'll be taking a bit of a hiatus for a few weeks as I have other pressing matters to attend to. I will however endeavour to keep the test site on line, fix bugs and add minor updates (including more comprehensive instructions on how to play) in the interim. I've alot more ideas on where to take the game so expect more features and developments in the next few months! Damashup I finally tried the game today and like it. When you go live I would be willing to donate some BBR to the game (as rewards for players when bools are converted to Boolberry). I do have one question. You are looking at 60 minutes of Twitter data right? I imagine that is a lot of data. Several times when playing the game froze up and became temporarily unresponsive. I wonder if it is related to your need to parse and update so much information. Would it help to either decrease the amount of Twitter data you are parsing (maybe only the last 30 minutes) or slightly decrease how often you update it? Like a hashtag? Damashup Could the platform be modified such that it watches for hashtags if having a kinda image of e.g. BBR logo shaped from a food (and an address to clam a part of the e.g. daily reward. And for the platform to have vote-ups and downs, once a day, and basically to split a rewards between claimers and ppl posting food made bbr logo incarnations  I'm probably going too far here, but there was a mention of just brainstorming, and that would create a market with a dynamics CZ, some was mentioning hardfork solution, i'de support e.g. 1% to be allocated (on top pf devs part before someone proposes something that makes most sence for it) for such (harder to game Proof of Constructive Human Work) purposes only if severely limited to a part of a business cycle, e.g. 2 years or something  How about only being able to claim tweets that mention certain keywords like #crypto #bitcoin #CryptoNote #Boolberry #privacy #fungible, etc. Naturally #Boolberry should have the highest possible reward! Or you could create incentives to create content that is later claimed by players. For example the person that Tweeted something mentioning #boolberry (assuming they are registered with popboolr) could receive a reward 5x as large as the person who claimed the Tweet. Creating content is harder than claiming Tweets and also more valuable to Boolberry assuming that content is relevant. This game really makes me want to join Twitter! I hope it brings in lots more Boolberry users.
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November 14, 2015, 05:29:18 PM |
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Do you all agree with this pruning comparison between Boolberry and Aeon? Pruning FAQ
Q: What is pruning?
A: Pruning refers to removing unnecessary information from the blockchain once it is no longer needed.
Q: What are the advantages?
A: Pruning reduces the amount of storage needed for the blockchain. If the blockchain is loaded into RAM (which is the case in the current implementation), then it also reduces RAM usage. Finally, it also reduces the rate that these resources are consumed over time as the blockchain grows. In the current implementation, each time one new block is accepted, one old block is pruned, on average freeing up a large portion of the resources needed for the new block.
Q: How does pruning affect functionality?
A: The only inherent functional limitation of AEON's pruning is the inability to restore (also known as rescan) a wallet which was used for spending transactions. All other functionality including sending and receiving coins, mining, updating a wallet after any period of inactivity, cold storage, mining, etc. remain fully supported. There is a current limitation that after extended period of disconnection (>28 days) a node may have trouble resynchronizing with the network, and would need to be reset. This is not inherent and should be addressed later.
Q: Does pruning reduce the effectiveness of ring signatures for transaction privacy?
A: No, ring signatures and privacy are unaffected.
Q: How is pruning enabled and disabled?
A: Using the --pruning option on the daemon command line. With this option the daemon will prune the blockchain and will also switch from using the blockchain.bin file for storage to blockchain-pruned.bin. To switch an existing node into pruned mode, copy blockchain.bin to blockchain-pruned.bin before starting the daemon with --pruning. To switch pruning off, remove the --pruning option. Do not, however, copy blockchain-pruned.bin to blockchain.bin. This will not work. You will need to have an unpruned blockchain.bin file or resync unpruned from the network.
Q: How does AEON's pruning compare with Boolberry's pruning?
A: AEON prunes slightly more information from the blockchain, so the required storage is slightly smaller (given equivalent usage), though the difference is likely not particularly significant. BBR prunes the blockchain on the entire network while AEON prunes on each node individually (and only if pruning is enabled). This means that new nodes can come online faster with BBR, but those new nodes are unable to independently verify the entire blockchain. It is possible to download an unpruned BBR blockchain from a web site to independently verify it, but in that case the amount of data downloaded would be the same as AEON. It also means that every BBR node is able to serve the chain to new users but in AEON this function falls to nodes that are unpruned, also known as "archive nodes" (or alternately via a trusted bootstrap file).
Q: How does AEON's pruning compare with Bitcoin's pruning?
A: In Bitcoin 0.11, the same model of pruning is implemented as in AEON. That is, nodes prune blocks locally, after syncing from an unpruned chain and verifying the chain independently. Like AEON, Bitcoin pruned nodes can't rescan or reindex wallets. Bitcoin 0.11 does not support wallets on pruned nodes at all, so it currently has more limitations that AEON. Old Bitcoin blocks must be retrieved from unpruned archive nodes, as with AEON.
Q: What other coins implement pruning?
A: Other than Boolberry, Bitcoin, and possibly some coins which have inherited their implementation by being Bitcoin forks, no other coins implement pruning at this time.
Q: What's this about "archive nodes"? How can I run one?
A: When nodes connect to the network, they retrieve blocks from other nodes. If only blocks within the most recent 10 000 (approx. 28 days) are needed for syncing, even pruned nodes can provide them. However, in the case of nodes which are brand new (syncing from the genesis block) or which have been offline for >28 days, pruned nodes will be unable to supply the older blocks. Instead this task falls to unpruned nodes, also known as archive nodes. For the time being the project-run seed nodes will always run in unpruned mode, and others with sufficient RAM and storage space who wish to support the network are also encouraged to do so. To run an archive node, simply start the daemon in the normal manner, without the --pruning option.
Q: What are the numbers? How much does pruning reduce the amount of memory and storage needed?
A: The exact numbers will vary according to OS, compiler, etc. and also depend on the usage of the blockchain in the future. One early report from BoscoMurray stated, "RAM usage down from 4.8GB to 2.4GB and blockchain file size down from 3.2GB to 1.7GB"
Q: That doesn't seem like a big reduction. Why is the benefit not greater?
A: To explain why the reduction is not larger and understand what this means for the future, let's first review some basics of how a blockchain works.
Every time a coin is spent, a digital signature accompanies the transaction in order to show that the owner of that coin authorized spending it. Once this signature is checked, it is no longer needed. This is the largest portion of what is being pruned. In the cryptonote signature scheme (used by AEON), ring signatures used for anonymity, which means while a signature shows the coin owner authorized the transaction, unlike conventional signatures, it does not identify the specific coins being spent, and therefore does not allow tracing and analyzing the blockchain. As a side effect of this functionality, these signatures are much larger than ordinary digital signatures (a fact sometimes described as "cryptonote bloat"). Thus in AEON, pruning offers great benefit and eliminates the "cryptonote bloat".
So why is the savings not larger? Because in the early history of AEON, there was a very large number of very large transactions and many of those transactions did not using ring signatures. This happened for several reasons, including a major flaw in the early versions of cryptonote mining pool software. Thus, while the chain is relatively large, a relatively small amount of storage is saved by pruning the early transactions.
The newer transactions are a different story. The pool software flaw was fixed long ago, and most transactions now do use ring signatures. So the savings from pruning going forward should be much higher (perhaps 75-80%). Of course, since ring signatures are now being routinely used, it means that that actual anonymity of the coin in practice is greatly improved, and with pruning there is no long term storage cost (i.e. no "cryptonote bloat") for most nodes (other than archive nodes). We get the best of both worlds!
Q: What about a database or disk-based block storage? Doesn't that also reduce memory usage?
A: Storing the blockchain out-of-memory in a database or in cache files reduces memory usage but does not reduce storage usage nor reduce the rate of growth of storage usage over time. In AEON, the plan is to later support out-of-memory storage of the blockchain along with pruning, so memory usage will be further reduced, and storage usage will remain low and grow very slowly over time.
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Do you all agree with this pruning comparison between Boolberry and Aeon? Corrections, clarifications or any different perspective from Boolberry advocates are welcome and will be added to the AEON Pruning FAQ (at least if well written). Especially, but not exclusively, this part: Q: How does AEON's pruning compare with Boolberry's pruning?
A: AEON prunes slightly more information from the blockchain, so the required storage is slightly smaller (given equivalent usage), though the difference is likely not particularly significant. BBR prunes the blockchain on the entire network while AEON prunes on each node individually (and only if pruning is enabled). This means that new nodes can come online faster with BBR, but those new nodes are unable to independently verify the entire blockchain. It is possible to download an unpruned BBR blockchain from a web site to independently verify it, but in that case the amount of data downloaded would be the same as AEON. It also means that every BBR node is able to serve the chain to new users but in AEON this function falls to nodes that are unpruned, also known as "archive nodes" (or alternately via a trusted bootstrap file).
I noticed in reading that just now one additional distinction: Boolberry does not have the limitation of being unable to rescan an old wallet from a pruned node. I'll add that to the FAQ when I update it.
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