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September 19, 2014, 11:32:41 PM
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So it's final, the new name is rune? You can't go back...
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September 19, 2014, 11:42:03 PM
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Was the DarkNotes name dictated?  Did anyone vote on the name or whether to rebrand,  or on the narrowed down candidates?

No they decided against the method of trying to put a community-chosen or -endorsed or whatever halo onto a brand using a manipulated sham vote where perhaps 60% of the community has its views excluded.

Instead they were simple and clear about the rebrand being done in a top-down fashion.

On the substance of the XDN rebrand (and perhaps relevant to BBR, perhaps not), I'm less interested in XDN now. I thought the old branding was more unusual and interesting, and stood apart as a reason to pay attention to the coin at all. Now I see none.
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September 19, 2014, 11:49:06 PM
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What about Boolberry Rune ?   Tongue
Runeberry?  Boolrooney? Roolenerry?
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September 20, 2014, 12:05:35 AM
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Berries?
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September 20, 2014, 12:20:23 AM
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rename orbis  Grin
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September 20, 2014, 12:21:23 AM
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rename orbis  Grin

Orbis as in Orbit as in "to da moon?"
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September 20, 2014, 12:29:25 AM
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rename orbis  Grin

Orbis as in Orbit as in "to da moon?"

more likely "to da rune" looking at the votes in the other thread... :/
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September 20, 2014, 12:31:48 AM
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"to da rune"

That sounds awesome !
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September 20, 2014, 12:38:03 AM
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rename orbis  Grin

Orbis as in Orbit as in "to da moon?"

more likely "to da rune" looking at the votes in the other thread... :/

Try this thread instead.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786564.0

Where the mid-game results are:


Rune    15 (27.8%)
Secore    3 (5.6%)
Vortex    2 (3.7%)
Boolberry    32 (59.3%)
BitRing    1 (1.9%)
Boollion    1 (1.9%)
Total Voters: 54

In most polls this would constitute a landslide, but here, strangely, seems not to matter..............
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September 20, 2014, 12:59:10 AM
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rename orbis  Grin

Orbis as in Orbit as in "to da moon?"

more likely "to da rune" looking at the votes in the other thread... :/

Try this thread instead.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786564.0

Where the mid-game results are:


Rune    15 (27.8%)
Secore    3 (5.6%)
Vortex    2 (3.7%)
Boolberry    32 (59.3%)
BitRing    1 (1.9%)
Boollion    1 (1.9%)
Total Voters: 54

In most polls this would constitute a landslide, but here, strangely, seems not to matter..............

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at some point in history boolberry would also be renamed to Arplex http://arplex.org/. and subsequently canceled, zoidberg said:

Boolberry is not the best name, i see.

But i've decided to stay with that.
i'm so sick of this naming talks - it's not possible to please everybody.
I like this name and i'll make a value for this name with my work and my ideas.

Thanks to all people who suggested names, i'm very sorry that i didn't like it, please try to understand me.
The prize will be devided between all who suggested in this thread, with thanks and respect. Sorry again that i didn't take name here.

Now naming issue is closed.

I'm gladly go back to work, hope we will appear on exchanges soon.

PS: those who was complained that solo mining is impossible - you can try your luck now since hashrate is pretty low now. this is your second chance.
PPS: those who don't like the name - that's ok, i can understand you and respect your choice if you go to Monero(or whatever). Mine in peace!

Now the question is: Why insist on changing the name?

I think there are other important things that need to worry.
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September 20, 2014, 01:08:15 AM
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at some point in history boolberry would also be renamed to Arplex http://arplex.org/. and subsequently canceled, zoidberg said:

Boolberry is not the best name, i see.

But i've decided to stay with that.
i'm so sick of this naming talks - it's not possible to please everybody.
I like this name and i'll make a value for this name with my work and my ideas.

Thanks to all people who suggested names, i'm very sorry that i didn't like it, please try to understand me.
The prize will be devided between all who suggested in this thread, with thanks and respect. Sorry again that i didn't take name here.

Now naming issue is closed.

I'm gladly go back to work, hope we will appear on exchanges soon.

PS: those who was complained that solo mining is impossible - you can try your luck now since hashrate is pretty low now. this is your second chance.
PPS: those who don't like the name - that's ok, i can understand you and respect your choice if you go to Monero(or whatever). Mine in peace!

Now the question is: Why insist on changing the name?

I think there are other important things that need to worry.

I remember this well and also remember that in his pm correspondence with me he seemed stressed and unhappy about the whole debate. CZ is a very talented dev and coder, but I don't think he is so happy dealing with strongly expressed opposing views - it does his head in.

I was thinking about this earlier and wondered if he may have been hectored or worn down by the pro-rebrand cabal - who I will now call the PRC (see what I did there?) - maybe  he just agreed to hand over responsibility to get some peace?

There is certainly more important stuff for him to work on, this potential exploit being top of the list.
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September 20, 2014, 01:08:58 AM
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Might I make a suggestion on the naming issue?

There has been a lot of energy spent on this, but to me the most important thing is what the people who will be marketing BBR wants to do.

It is not like there are many people who will actually be doing marketing work is there? It is very easy to complain about this or that, but unless you are going to step up and be active in marketing this, then it seems that the ones doing the marketing should have the ability to change the name.

So, this debate is not whether you like Boolberry vs Rune, but whether you feel you are better than windjc at marketing and willing to actually do this. If not, then why dont we support windjc's efforts?

you can always keep calling it Boolberry to yourself. as others have said the tech is what matters to most people here, so then why this controversy over the name?

As a community do we want windjc to do the marketing or is there somebody else I dont know about?

So, let us do a poll of who wants to be in charge of marketing this coin. On this list so far is windjc. Any other volunteers? If not, then this matter is pretty clear to me. Have the best person available to do something and then trust them to do it without second guessing everything they do. So we weigh the vote by how many hours you are going to be spending marketing BBR.

Fair enough?

I hope this makes sense. I do have some amount of business experience and this falls into the category of business. Yes, boolberry is a very brandable name, but if the person in charge of the marketing is not liking it, then he wont do anywhere as good of a job unless he gets the name he wants.

So, do you want windjc to be demoralized about being forced to market a name he doesnt feel is right, or do you want to support him (or at least not fight against) so he feels the power of the community behind him. If the tech really is what matters, then please stop arguing about the name.

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at some point in history boolberry would also be renamed to Arplex http://arplex.org/. and subsequently canceled, zoidberg said:

Boolberry is not the best name, i see.

But i've decided to stay with that.
i'm so sick of this naming talks - it's not possible to please everybody.
I like this name and i'll make a value for this name with my work and my ideas.

Thanks to all people who suggested names, i'm very sorry that i didn't like it, please try to understand me.
The prize will be devided between all who suggested in this thread, with thanks and respect. Sorry again that i didn't take name here.

Now naming issue is closed.

I'm gladly go back to work, hope we will appear on exchanges soon.

PS: those who was complained that solo mining is impossible - you can try your luck now since hashrate is pretty low now. this is your second chance.
PPS: those who don't like the name - that's ok, i can understand you and respect your choice if you go to Monero(or whatever). Mine in peace!

Now the question is: Why insist on changing the name?

I think there are other important things that need to worry.

I remember this well and also remember that in his pm correspondence with me he seemed stressed and unhappy about the whole debate. CZ is a very talented dev and coder, but I don't think he is so happy dealing with strongly expressed opposing views - it does his head in.

I was thinking about this earlier and wondered if he may have been hectored or worn down by the pro-rebrand cabal, who I will now call the PRC (see what I did there?), maybe  he just agreed to hand over responsibility to get some peace?

There is certainly more important stuff for him to work on, this potential exploit being top of the list.
will you volunteer to head up marketing BBR?
if so you can run against windjc and then if you win, you can decide to keep the Boolberry name
CZ definitely does not like these pointless debates and neither do I

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will you volunteer to head up marketing BBR?
if so you can run against windjc and then if you win, you can decide to keep the Boolberry name
CZ definitely does not like these pointless debates and neither do I

James

I would consider it if I had at some backing/nomination from others, I would not just throw my hat into the ring for fear of it getting laughed out. I am certain there are others with more ability to do the job.

It would also depend on what was expected, to my constant astonishment I have a real life too and I couldn't devote a massive amount of time to marketing goolies, boondocks or what ever the latest bizarre name suggestion is.

Finally, it's not pointless James, I'd be far more concerned if no-one cared.




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September 20, 2014, 01:31:00 AM
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But what about the people who have threatened to dump BBR upon a rebrand? I read somewhere that it is some sort of a silver currency and any attempt to become something else will be met fiercely. I really don't understand this community. Are you guys trying to be something you are not? Why can't you stay grounded all your life?

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September 20, 2014, 01:35:54 AM
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But what about the people who have threatened to dump BBR upon a rebrand? I read somewhere that it is some sort of a silver currency and any attempt to become something else will be met fiercely.

I would be one of them - although I wouldn't dump maliciously or at a loss.

This is because I believe changing the name to any one of the alternatives offered would doom this coin to ridicule and anonymity (in the bad sense) as well as complicating search engine results and exposing uncertainty in the direction of the coin.

Other than that, I'm all for it.
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But what about the people who have threatened to dump BBR upon a rebrand? I read somewhere that it is some sort of a silver currency and any attempt to become something else will be met fiercely.

I would be one of them - although I wouldn't dump maliciously or at a loss.

This is because I believe changing the name to any one of the alternatives offered would doom this coin to ridicule and anonymity (in the bad sense) as well as complicating search engine results and exposing uncertainty in the direction of the coin.

Other than that, I'm all for it.

I am with you. I also have some BBR. As long as the community can stay retarded I am ok. Any attempt to try to get serious, imma dump for profits.

Tech is all that matters (as long as the name stays goofy and smells of fruit)

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September 20, 2014, 01:45:02 AM
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Yes, boolberry is a very brandable name, but if the person in charge of the marketing is not liking it, then he wont do anywhere as good of a job unless he gets the name he wants.


then this is for one person? I think that if someone goes to work at a company in the area of marketing that does not give you the right to change the name just because you do not like, then what happens when that person leaves and another person comes? also you can change the name if you do not like?
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Yes, boolberry is a very brandable name, but if the person in charge of the marketing is not liking it, then he wont do anywhere as good of a job unless he gets the name he wants.


then this is for one person? I think that if someone goes to work at a company in the area of marketing that does not give you the right to change the name just because you do not like, then what happens when that person leaves and another person comes? also you can change the name if you do not like?
as the community's designated marketing person, it is on behalf of the community that he is making these decisions.

Now I think a lot of people have an opinion on the name because it is easy to have one. Its not like debating about the merits of one type of algorithm over another, a name, now everybody can debate that endlessly. So they do, accomplishing nothing.

Was it my imagination, or wasnt there a lot of complaints about the name? From a marketing standpoint it is hard to sell a child's cereal/toy as a crypto currency.

Now it really doesnt matter what the name is, we all agree the tech is what is important. So, why all the fuss all of a sudden?

windjc stepped up and is willing to put time into marketing this, is anybody else? If he does a good job, then the name thing wont be an issue. It is so easy to complain, well, if Rune is so bad a name, where are the suggestions for others?

If you are all happy at 1/15'th XMR marketcap, then lets just leave everything the way it is. Maybe the name matters, maybe it doesnt, but debating endlessly about the name change is not going to help anything.

Does the community want to support windjc or not? This is what I want to know.

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Ok, I for one will continue to support boolberry or whatever in the future, I believe that zoidberg is a very capable and a great developer, I hope that whatever is done, is thinking of the good of the coin and the community .
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