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January 20, 2015, 10:04:32 PM
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CryptoKingdom info, as supplied to me by saddambitcoin:

Buildings, etc database (Map): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ln1LSQwPajGNMhtQ8LieWKyQ4rgo-Vnr6-NHkx-Ee00/edit?pli=1#gid=412874366

Another Database: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tgIzgMza7NQsTpMO9pHke1ZVXYH7l5Sj5bHdZHItivo/edit?pli=1#gid=1503284768

Rulebook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8bqiuTGRuKpaFRXak9HNG1jYjQ/view?pli=1
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Thanks.

Click on the "city map" link on the thread mentioned below.

Can I see what the map looks like?

Is the link public?





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January 21, 2015, 04:50:42 AM
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http://m.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/without-drugs-whats-the-point-of-bitcoin/384622/

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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January 21, 2015, 05:20:19 AM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

I pointed out a truth, not a demand

And again I dispute the truth of your claim. Moore's law in memory is outpacing Monero blockchain growth currently. I'd love to have a database working perfectly yesterday, but every day that goes by (given current trends), practicality of the existing solution increases not decreases.

(Given a hypothetical supertrend explosion of Monero usage I acknowledge the memory size limit will be an issue.)

A supertrend explosion of Monero usage could easily occur if the bulls get back control of Bitcoin and trigger the 1 MB blocksize limit. Ironically the current bear market in Bitcoin is giving the Monero project much needed time for the database development. For this reason a bear market in Bitcoin until the database in completed suites me just fine.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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January 21, 2015, 05:34:54 AM
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Personally, even though I've contributed to the general dev fund and expect to do so again, I'd rather contribute to sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features. (No doubt this preference is based on some cognitive illusion, but there it is.)

Mental artifacts or not, I'm hesitant to contribute to the general fund because I disagree with resources being used for non-core missions like Yet Another Forum Software.

OTOH,  a 'Darkfunding' .onion/eepsite would be immediately useful as a platform for further "sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features."


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hardcore bitcoiners are in for a rude awekening:

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The same features that made Silk Road possible have now turned against him, and casual observers are realizing that Bitcoin isn’t as anonymous as they thought.

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Ironically, it would have been much easier to conceal these assets in the traditional financial system. Conventional money laundering is still an enormous headache for prosecutors, and subpoenaing the transaction records for an offshore bank is much harder than simply checking the blockchain.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/14/7546669/silk-road-trial-bitcoin-tracking

I'm still against use of cryptocurrencies for illegal stuff but this shows how much undeserved credit Bitcoin has received, credit that will be deposited in Monero soon.

The key is that in the Ross Ulbricht case the prosecution has access to the Bitcoin private keys and can trace all the transactions, via the blockchain. Even in the case of Monero. If the prosecution has access to the private keys the anonymity would be broken. They would for example know the money that was received but not the address of who sent it. Now if they can get the address information from enough of the buyers then they have a very strong case since they have many buyers testifying that they sent x amount of crypto currency in payment for drugs to a given address and they also have the evidence that that particular address and the corresponding private keys belong the the person they are prosecuting.

By the way fungibility for innocent third parties is the real killer application for Monero over Bitcoin here.

Edit: XMR in this situation is like a Denarius. It was valid across the Roman Empire, regardless of whether a Carthaginian has handled that particular Denarius at one point. A more modern example would be US currency used to purchase goods and services in Cuba.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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January 21, 2015, 07:12:31 AM
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Personally, even though I've contributed to the general dev fund and expect to do so again, I'd rather contribute to sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features. (No doubt this preference is based on some cognitive illusion, but there it is.)

Mental artifacts or not, I'm hesitant to contribute to the general fund because I disagree with resources being used for non-core missions like Yet Another Forum Software.

OTOH,  a 'Darkfunding' .onion/eepsite would be immediately useful as a platform for further "sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features."

You read our year-end report, right? Not a single satoshi of the 47.58 BTC we received in donations was spent on the forum software, and only a very small portion of the 164.5 BTC the core team personally put in was spent on that.

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January 21, 2015, 07:20:09 AM
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Personally, even though I've contributed to the general dev fund and expect to do so again, I'd rather contribute to sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features. (No doubt this preference is based on some cognitive illusion, but there it is.)

Mental artifacts or not, I'm hesitant to contribute to the general fund because I disagree with resources being used for non-core missions like Yet Another Forum Software.

OTOH,  a 'Darkfunding' .onion/eepsite would be immediately useful as a platform for further "sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features."

You read our year-end report, right? Not a single satoshi of the 47.58 BTC we received in donations was spent on the forum software, and only a very small portion of the 164.5 BTC the core team personally put in was spent on that.

Yes, I was especially happy/relieved to read that part of the report.  But we were talking about cognitive illusions, such as unfounded fears.  Sorry to imply otherwise!   Tongue


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January 21, 2015, 09:07:46 AM
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Ironically the current bear market in Bitcoin is giving the Monero project much needed time for the database development. For this reason a bear market in Bitcoin until the database in completed suites me just fine.

I've had the same thoughts exactly. If bitcoin were booming now with 100 million users, and XMR were still in the alpha stages, then XMR would be getting seriously left behind. In addition, the emission is high right now, so it would be difficult for XMR to maintain a high value over time even if XMR were initially pulled up by bitcoin's boom. Thus, the situation now is perfect.

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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/01/19/the-one-world-currency-cryptocurrencies/

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January 21, 2015, 02:15:48 PM
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Monero has a dice game now (outside IRC).
(cross-posted from the ANN)
I wrote a laudative article about cryptocoins-dice.com. Not sponsored of course, everything is my very own opinion, untainted.

Bet on Monero!

I also made the necessary arrangements to check the identity of Bobbax. We agreed I would keep those information to myself but I can assure you the site is legit (still, only invest what you can afford to lose). If you are wondering if my opinion is worth something, you can always check my reputation thread on my sig.

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Bobbax decided to "sit on the shoulder of giants" and reuse what works elsewere.

So, on top of the usual (for cryptos) 1% house hedge, the site sports plenty of keyboard shortcuts to play the popular martingale-style without the mouse (C to double bet on loss, X to halve bet once won, H and L to play high or low and plenty of other shortcut). Inspiration here is clearly just-dice.

But CCD goes further and borrows one great idea from primedice: an in-browser bot. Longtime just-dice players know about the fantastically powerful Seuntje's bot (a Windows application). Without being that powerful, CCD's in-browser bot is much stronger than the primedice one. For start, it can be used with keyboard shortcuts too (B to start playing). Second, it offers "cut losses" and "take profit" options on top of the regular "max bets" and "actions on win"/"actions on loss". And it also has some useful stats (stats are your friend when bot-martingaling). Oh, one more thing™: the bot is fast! I mean, really fast. Just-dice greatly reduces the speed of playing with a bot by introducing quite a large delay. primedice's bot is just anemic and the whole interface is heavy on load. On the contrary, CCD's bot is just fast. Do not worry though: if you want to keep it to a humanly manageable level, you can introduce an artificial delay (500 ms between bets as default).

Investment is really simple. You deposit money on your account (like for just-dice, you can avoid keeping an account but then it means you rely solely on cookies to keep your money - I don't recommend it). Once the money is deposited, you go to the "my invest" tab and deposit what you want. The site will take 10% of your investment profit when you divest, that's all. Exactly like just-dice. And of course, you can invest on all the currencies, not just one.

Like several chats (including the famous Poloniex trollbox), CCD has protips. They will surely grow in variety with time. The chat also has plenty of command line options (use /help for a list, 17 for the moment). One exclusive thing that I instantly appreciated about the chat is the "character count". A dynamic "progress bar" shows you how far you are from hitting the limit. This is something that frustrates me immensely on Poloniex: text getting truncated without notice (at least you can see it before submitting, but still). With the awesome "progress bar", no more surprise anymore Smiley

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Ironically the current bear market in Bitcoin is giving the Monero project much needed time for the database development. For this reason a bear market in Bitcoin until the database in completed suites me just fine.

I've had the same thoughts exactly. If bitcoin were booming now with 100 million users, and XMR were still in the alpha stages, then XMR would be getting seriously left behind. In addition, the emission is high right now, so it would be difficult for XMR to maintain a high value over time even if XMR were initially pulled up by bitcoin's boom. Thus, the situation now is perfect.
Yep.  A reprieve that I may continue to accumulate.   All is well.
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January 21, 2015, 07:46:53 PM
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Tippero has just learned Blackjack!

Those of you who like card game may relish the prospects of playing casino blackjack in #tippero, or directly one on one with tippero.

And as for the dice game, Tippero's blackjack is also provably fair with full details availaible via !fair.

This is a fairly complete blackjack game. Resplit to 4, blackjack pays the full 3:2. A number of side bets are also available. Insurance available when the dealer's upcard is an ace. See more details with !help blackjack and !commands blackjack

Basic game:
!blackjack 0.1

Side bets (list available with !sidebets):
!blackjack 0.1 over13 buster

You'll play a normal Blackjack game, with the side bets over13 (bet the sum of your first two cards scores over 13), and buster (bet that the dealer busts - the more cards it takes, the higher your payout!)

Side games are independent from the main game. If you lose a side bet, you still play the blackjack hand normally. See the list of available side bets with !sidebets.

Blackjack house edge is around half a percent. It might be between 0.4% and 0.6% Smiley

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January 21, 2015, 07:59:37 PM
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How many of you know the Monero community has its own DJ?

http://www.mixcloud.com/Vanderi/monero-mixxives-1-2015-winter-colours/

Fantastic work by Vanderi. Check it out!
I concur, Vanderi entertains us with great music for months. And you will notice the title reflect the current events at time (like fhe "FUD fuck")

Monero mixxives


Sharing them is a great way to increase the visibility of the Monero brand.

Some dedicated songs:

Its latest one:

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January 21, 2015, 08:16:48 PM
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Tippero has just learned Blackjack!

Those of you who like card game may relish the prospects of playing casino blackjack in #tippero, or directly one on one with tippero.

And as for the dice game, Tippero's blackjack is also provably fair with full details availaible via !fair.

This is a fairly complete blackjack game. Resplit to 4, blackjack pays the full 3:2. A number of side bets are also available. Insurance available when the dealer's upcard is an ace. See more details with !help blackjack and !commands blackjack

Basic game:
!blackjack 0.1

Side bets (list available with !sidebets):
!blackjack 0.1 over13 buster

You'll play a normal Blackjack game, with the side bets over13 (bet the sum of your first two cards scores over 13), and buster (bet that the dealer busts - the more cards it takes, the higher your payout!)

Side games are independent from the main game. If you lose a side bet, you still play the blackjack hand normally. See the list of available side bets with !sidebets.

Blackjack house edge is around half a percent. It might be between 0.4% and 0.6% Smiley


Great job, MoneroMooo! Tipbot/gamblingbot is really a nice addition to IRC channels.
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January 21, 2015, 08:24:58 PM
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Monero has a dice game now (outside IRC).
(cross-posted from the ANN)
I wrote a laudative article about cryptocoins-dice.com. Not sponsored of course, everything is my very own opinion, untainted.

Bet on Monero!

I also made the necessary arrangements to check the identity of Bobbax. We agreed I would keep those information to myself but I can assure you the site is legit (still, only invest what you can afford to lose). If you are wondering if my opinion is worth something, you can always check my reputation thread on my sig.

Excerpts from my article:
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Bobbax decided to "sit on the shoulder of giants" and reuse what works elsewere.

So, on top of the usual (for cryptos) 1% house hedge, the site sports plenty of keyboard shortcuts to play the popular martingale-style without the mouse (C to double bet on loss, X to halve bet once won, H and L to play high or low and plenty of other shortcut). Inspiration here is clearly just-dice.

But CCD goes further and borrows one great idea from primedice: an in-browser bot. Longtime just-dice players know about the fantastically powerful Seuntje's bot (a Windows application). Without being that powerful, CCD's in-browser bot is much stronger than the primedice one. For start, it can be used with keyboard shortcuts too (B to start playing). Second, it offers "cut losses" and "take profit" options on top of the regular "max bets" and "actions on win"/"actions on loss". And it also has some useful stats (stats are your friend when bot-martingaling). Oh, one more thing™: the bot is fast! I mean, really fast. Just-dice greatly reduces the speed of playing with a bot by introducing quite a large delay. primedice's bot is just anemic and the whole interface is heavy on load. On the contrary, CCD's bot is just fast. Do not worry though: if you want to keep it to a humanly manageable level, you can introduce an artificial delay (500 ms between bets as default).

Investment is really simple. You deposit money on your account (like for just-dice, you can avoid keeping an account but then it means you rely solely on cookies to keep your money - I don't recommend it). Once the money is deposited, you go to the "my invest" tab and deposit what you want. The site will take 10% of your investment profit when you divest, that's all. Exactly like just-dice. And of course, you can invest on all the currencies, not just one.

Like several chats (including the famous Poloniex trollbox), CCD has protips. They will surely grow in variety with time. The chat also has plenty of command line options (use /help for a list, 17 for the moment). One exclusive thing that I instantly appreciated about the chat is the "character count". A dynamic "progress bar" shows you how far you are from hitting the limit. This is something that frustrates me immensely on Poloniex: text getting truncated without notice (at least you can see it before submitting, but still). With the awesome "progress bar", no more surprise anymore Smiley

The domain have a DNS anti-poisoning protection, an anti-cybersquatting measure and the DNS is shared on 19 geographical positions. The server is DDoS protected and uses 3 Mitigation Multi-point in case of an attack. On top of it, the site allows to use 2FA and has a cold wallet.



Deposit/Withdraw  offline? That happens often or i just got goxed lol?
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January 21, 2015, 08:30:25 PM
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Check the chat room. Bobbax appears to be restarting the Monero daemon.

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January 21, 2015, 08:58:40 PM
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Ironically the current bear market in Bitcoin is giving the Monero project much needed time for the database development. For this reason a bear market in Bitcoin until the database in completed suites me just fine.

I've had the same thoughts exactly. If bitcoin were booming now with 100 million users, and XMR were still in the alpha stages, then XMR would be getting seriously left behind. In addition, the emission is high right now, so it would be difficult for XMR to maintain a high value over time even if XMR were initially pulled up by bitcoin's boom. Thus, the situation now is perfect.

Yes, in the same way it bugs me that we are nominally so much behind the original online development schedule in CK. But we are getting more, and getting it very solid, and meanwhile we are also getting a very solid economic engine ("subgame API") as well as the technical "sandbox API".

When this baby booms, it booms for real.  Cool





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January 21, 2015, 09:06:06 PM
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Check the chat room. Bobbax appears to be restarting the Monero daemon.

Confirming, I was a bit slow I'm sorry.
It's now back and working.

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January 23, 2015, 01:24:25 PM
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We're trying to get a community wide minimum mixin level of 3, correct?

I think the community should start petitioning the major exchanges to modify their withdrawal function. To have to go through an intermediary mymonero wallet is... ridiculous.

So, I put forward the following proposition for the XMR community - goto your XMR exchange, find the contact info section, email them requesting a change in the mixin level for withdrawals

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